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Well, according to this article, Tilt will cost $299 with a 2-year contract and $375 with a one-year contract. Btw, the release date mentioned in the article is October 1st.
Link: http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/09/11/tilt-duo-inferno-and-q9h-to-blow-out-atandts-october/
Finally and it is good to here that it will be reasonable priced which will make the device open to more users...thus it will be hacked sooner. We need cooked ROMs casue you know ATT will **** up the OS. First thing we will need to hack the PTT button since ATT PTT is retarded and its one more button that can be useful.
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Well, according to this article, Tilt will cost $299 with a 2-year contract and $375 with a one-year contract. Btw, the release date mentioned in the article is October 1st.
Link: http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/09/11/tilt-duo-inferno-and-q9h-to-blow-out-atandts-october/
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No offense but I think Ill go buy one online if I see another frickin post like this. Not directed at you sherpa, just venting a bit. I am just tired of hearing things like "supposedly" and "we heard" or "rumored" I have had a few sources tell me that it will be this month....PERIOD.... I just want to see a date posted on the site saying it will be released on.... I personally dont care if its 3 ****ing years from now as long as they can just say it rather than the cause the whole guessing game.
O.k. now that I have vented, I'll say that I hope this info is wrong on the October part because I am an impatient child and hope its right on the $299 part
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No offense but I think Ill go buy one online if I see another frickin post like this. Not directed at you sherpa, just venting a bit. I am just tired of hearing things like "supposedly" and "we heard" or "rumored" I have had a few sources tell me that it will be this month....PERIOD.... I just want to see a date posted on the site saying it will be released on.... I personally dont care if its 3 ****ing years from now as long as they can just say it rather than the cause the whole guessing game.
O.k. now that I have vented, I'll say that I hope this info is wrong on the October part because I am an impatient child and hope its right on the $299 part
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Dude, I feel the same way too. I get frustrated hearing all these rumor dates but at the same time get excited. Just like you, I would rather hear a firm date from AT&T (be it three years from now) but it would at least make me constantly visiting different sites all the time. Now, I also hope info posted on the link above is wrong (the date part, that is) and hope the date is something earlier than that.
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Finally and it is good to here that it will be reasonable priced which will make the device open to more users...thus it will be hacked sooner. We need cooked ROMs casue you know ATT will **** up the OS. First thing we will need to hack the PTT button since ATT PTT is retarded and its one more button that can be useful.
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I dunno wp...At 299...something has to be missing..and it's gotta be more then the video call camera...why would the Tilt with more features then the 8525 cost less??? I'm very leery about this...btw wp..haven't seen u on HOFO in a while..
well after seeing another date come and go that it was suppost to go live on I just went ahead and ordered mine online. Better to have it then have to deal with the waiting and then if they end up screwing it hard well...
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I dunno wp...At 299...something has to be missing..and it's gotta be more then the video call camera...why would the Tilt with more features then the 8525 cost less??? I'm very leery about this...btw wp..haven't seen u on HOFO in a while..
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The low price can be justified because of iPhone's price slashes! AT&T is thinking of the whole market and not just of us hardcore users. Majority of the market will compare iPhone and Tilt side-by-side, and with iPhone's bigger screen, brand recognition, built-in memory, and popularity, people will go for the iPhone. So, if AT&T prices both reasonably, Tilt will sell well.
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I dunno wp...At 299...something has to be missing..and it's gotta be more then the video call camera...why would the Tilt with more features then the 8525 cost less??? I'm very leery about this...btw wp..haven't seen u on HOFO in a while..
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my guess is cuz they're going up against the iphone's price point
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I dunno wp...At 299...something has to be missing..and it's gotta be more then the video call camera...why would the Tilt with more features then the 8525 cost less??? I'm very leery about this...btw wp..haven't seen u on HOFO in a while..
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I think the front camera and the Tom-Tom Software will be removed and thats all. I think GPS will work but you have to use TeleNav, free google maps, live search or buy your own Tom-Tom. My guess as a geek with no insider info....
I got banned for flaming the asshole 14 year old Tito.
I created a cab file for the Blackjack to auto install overclocking and it works but he was the only one to have a problem. Two forums I posted the cab and he was the only one to need a HR. He *****ed that he lost all his contacts and they were so important. I flamed him cause he tried to blame me for his error and for him not backing up his device. What the **** is so important in contacts that 14 year old has. Anyway I flamed, got banned and told HOFO to **** off. I still read over there and can not stand the stupidity that runs rampant on that bored. Change the name on hofo to "here's your sign" (Redneck Comedy)
Either AT&T has been court ordered to donate to charity, or they have severely crippled the Kaiser. I refuse to believe that $299 price point...
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Either AT&T has been court ordered to donate to charity, or they have severely crippled the Kaiser. I refuse to believe that $299 price point...
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I am very surprised, I would of thought $399 and they drop the 8525 to $249. But I like charity
yea that 299 price point does not seem correct being the 8525 cost more. Also the 8925 is suppost to be a flagship type phone for them for highend users and lower end peps then have the Icrap, or the pantach 810 also the blackjack still and a handfull of other pda type phones.
No way it's 299.
and 200 in amazon.com ???
8525's retail price is 599 from att. With a 2 year contract it's 450, which after rebates and everything else it comes down to 350.
the HTC Tytn II is 800 on mobileplanet.com and 850 on htcphonestore.com.
If the carrier branded ones were 300$ cheaper (which is never the case, carrier branded phones are usually 100-150 cheaper than htc branded ones) then ATT's would be 500.
If that was the price everybody would buy one signing up for a 2 year contract and cancel their contract after a month.
Ending up spending 375 or 475 (which is still better than 800)
I'm guessing the retail price is probably going to be around 650-750 and the price with a 2 year contract be around 500-600.
I think everyone is failing to see the point... and most of you are right, its probably not $299 up front... i would bet though that its 299 AFTER rebate....
wpbear.. its always good to be banned from somewhere... even i was banned from the cingular forums for speaking out about their poor moderation or lack there of...
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wpbear.. its always good to be banned from somewhere... even i was banned from the cingular forums for speaking out about their poor moderation or lack there of...
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Is that "street cred" like a rapper needs to sell albums. At least I only have to get banned and not shot like a rapper.
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Is that "street cred" like a rapper needs to sell albums. At least I only have to get banned and not shot like a rapper.
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[email protected], guess i will put my shiney gun away...
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[email protected], guess i will put my shiney gun away...
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Man.... we didnt need to hear about how you polish your gun....
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I think the front camera and the Tom-Tom Software will be removed and thats all. I think GPS will work but you have to use TeleNav, free google maps, live search or buy your own Tom-Tom. My guess as a geek with no insider info....
I got banned for flaming the asshole 14 year old Tito.
I created a cab file for the Blackjack to auto install overclocking and it works but he was the only one to have a problem. Two forums I posted the cab and he was the only one to need a HR. He *****ed that he lost all his contacts and they were so important. I flamed him cause he tried to blame me for his error and for him not backing up his device. What the **** is so important in contacts that 14 year old has. Anyway I flamed, got banned and told HOFO to **** off. I still read over there and can not stand the stupidity that runs rampant on that bored. Change the name on hofo to "here's your sign" (Redneck Comedy)
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I agree that Tito kid is so annoying! He seems like a rich little brat and says LOL too much!
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No way it's 299.
and 200 in amazon.com ???
8525's retail price is 599 from att. With a 2 year contract it's 450, which after rebates and everything else it comes down to 350.
the HTC Tytn II is 800 on mobileplanet.com and 850 on htcphonestore.com.
If the carrier branded ones were 300$ cheaper (which is never the case, carrier branded phones are usually 100-150 cheaper than htc branded ones) then ATT's would be 500.
If that was the price everybody would buy one signing up for a 2 year contract and cancel their contract after a month.
Ending up spending 375 or 475 (which is still better than 800)
I'm guessing the retail price is probably going to be around 650-750 and the price with a 2 year contract be around 500-600.
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Keep in mind that AT&T likely sees these devices as big recurring revenue streams - particularly text messaging, data usage, and their pay GPS service. These phones are likely to be sold to tech-savvy customers who use these features extensively. As a result they may even sell these devices at a loss.....
if at&t price does indeed end up being $299, is there any possibility of it driving the unlocked price down?
I forgot i had 150 extra dollars in paypal that was left over from something i sold on ebay. Any ideas of something that i could get?
you can get an xperia x1a from an xda member who's selling it at marketplace
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you can get an xperia x1a from an xda member who's selling it at marketplace
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I would but i already have a smartphone.
Oh, well if you change your mind... I would get another phone
If i do get another phone it would be a g1 or touch pro 2 or something else better that cost the same
Try a phone that's not available here. Something European. If you go to www.Ebay.Co.Uk you can get some really good deals on UK phones. Even though the exchange rate isn't equal, they come out cheaper still. Try GSM hero, Hd Mini, tattoo, ect. Stuff along those lines are around your price range. If you want though, you can get a desire over their fot around $300-350. Much cheaper than in the US...
ha yeah thats true...how much is an hd2 over there
About the same as over here. It really only works with devices that weren't released over here. If your using Android, I would suggest a HD Mini. I really like the design of it and it's really cheap over there. But I would get a GSM Hero... Even though I like the Design of my nexus, I still prefer the Desire, Hero's, and Legends chins...
You could buy a phone, trade it in for an iPod, then trade that for a bike, then trade it for a laptop, then trade it for a car!
(True story)
Forgot to mention one downside... Sometimes they won't ship the the US, but most of them do. You just need to ask otherwise you can't pay for the item. It wont let you go through with the checkout process.
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You could buy a phone, trade it in for an iPod, then trade that for a bike, then trade it for a laptop, then trade it for a car!
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Wow.... what laptop?
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Forgot to mention one downside... Sometimes they won't ship the the US, but most of them do. You just need to ask otherwise you can't pay for the item. It wont let you go through with the checkout process.
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I got back on ebay and there telling me i owe them 187.68$ for listing charges...wtf? When i listed my last phone it told me like 4$ So i cant buy anything off ebay till that gets taken care of but i can still buy here on the marketplace atleast
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You could buy a phone, trade it in for an iPod, then trade that for a bike, then trade it for a laptop, then trade it for a car!
(True story)
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I would love to hear that story
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You could buy a phone, trade it in for an iPod, then trade that for a bike, then trade it for a laptop, then trade it for a car!
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You saw that on Yahoo didnt you!
ehh
You can buy the kinect for an xbox.
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You can buy the kinect for an xbox.
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Is that that new thing and it like knows your movements or something?
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Is that that new thing and it like knows your movements or something?
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Yep. Basically a more responsive Wii.
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Austin021296 said:
I would love to hear that story
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Hehehehe.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20011064-71.html
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I got back on ebay and there telling me i owe them 187.68$ for listing charges...wtf? When i listed my last phone it told me like 4$ So i cant buy anything off ebay till that gets taken care of but i can still buy here on the marketplace atleast
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How much did you sell it for?? I know they charge something around 6% or so of the sale price, then another 2.5% for paypal fees...
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How much did you sell it for?? I know they charge something around 6% or so of the sale price, then another 2.5% for paypal fees...
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The final listing fee was only 30$ So i don't know where they get 190$ from
Went in yesterday to purchase my new Vivid (at the full price of $550, as I don't prefer contracts) and the sales guy walked me over to the accessories rack and asked me to pick out something. I thought to myself, "Well he's just trying to make a sale," so I said, "No, thanks."
He then said, "No, go ahead and pick out whatever you like and I'll take it off the price of the phone." I grabbed an external battery pack which can recharge the phone over micro USB, which was $40. He then asked if there was anything else and I thought to myself, "Really? How far do I want to press my luck?"
I had earlier noticed they sold Jawbone Jamboxes at this store. I really like them, think they're fine products. My boss has one and he's spoken well of it. So I said, "Well my boss has a Jambox and loves it, and I'd love to have one!", fully expecting him to say no but he just walked over and grabbed it!
I got $240 worth of free stuff with my purchase
good deal, they make a ton of money off phones and people being on contracts that they can always work with you on accessories. I worked at BBY mobile and we would throw around cases and screen protectors since they were peanuts vs. selling phones.
Haha, I still work for Best Buy Mobile. Good times here.
Good for you for getting a badass deal on the phone though, I wish we could do something like that here, since we make virtually nothing on selling a phone without a contract.
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Went in yesterday to purchase my new Vivid (at the full price of $550, as I don't prefer contracts) and the sales guy walked me over to the accessories rack and asked me to pick out something. I thought to myself, "Well he's just trying to make a sale," so I said, "No, thanks."
He then said, "No, go ahead and pick out whatever you like and I'll take it off the price of the phone." I grabbed an external battery pack which can recharge the phone over micro USB, which was $40. He then asked if there was anything else and I thought to myself, "Really? How far do I want to press my luck?"
I had earlier noticed they sold Jawbone Jamboxes at this store. I really like them, think they're fine products. My boss has one and he's spoken well of it. So I said, "Well my boss has a Jambox and loves it, and I'd love to have one!", fully expecting him to say no but he just walked over and grabbed it!
I got $240 worth of free stuff with my purchase
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Wow what store? (Location)
At the AT&T store by Flamingo and West Sunrise, they were less than enthusiastic to even talk to me. Once I mentioned that I was interested in buying the phone, without a contract extention.
i got a better deal..got the phone itself for $99..wasnt eligible for an upgrade untill april 2012.
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i got a better deal..got the phone itself for $99..wasnt eligible for an upgrade untill april 2012.
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That is a great deal. Better even than those offeredin store, to those eligible for an upgrade (as I am ). But I don't want to be shakled by a contract.
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i got a better deal..got the phone itself for $99..wasnt eligible for an upgrade untill april 2012.
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How were you able to get the phone at $99 and not being able to upgrade until April? I'm in the same position and I want the Vivid... now....
99 deal vivid
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How were you able to get the phone at $99 and not being able to upgrade until April? I'm in the same position and I want the Vivid... now....
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Try talkin to a rep over the phone..i had bought 2 iphones doin the early upgrade, payin 399 each prior over the years...i politely told them that id switch over to verizon since i wasnt benifitin from ATT...next thing i kno is i am offered the phone for 99...try callin them up and make a request..works sometimes...GOODLUCK!
lol i do.
yesterday i needed some quick cash because of a move im doing and i was short on my energy bill...
so i put my sprint galaxy nexus on craigslist for sale/ trade.
last week i got it new in the box for 150. a deal to me for sure.
i got a bunch of crap offers but eventually someone offered me their epic 4g touch and 100 cash for the gnex.
so we met up at a sprint store and called customer care because the store cannot do active phone swaps and we both went home happy.
right away i listed the phone on craigslist, within a few hours i got a few offers, mostly junk but one was or seemed to be worth while.
a white iphone 4 8gb, with case and charger, even trade. so telling her i was interested i posted the white iphone up on craigslist also forsale/trade before i even had it. i got many offers, a few low balls (lol even 50 dollars with the excuse that its outdated and old and the new iphone will be out this month lol), then a 225.00 offer, a 200 dollar offer, you get the idea. i entertained them all, but one of the guys ended up changing their minds and made a even better offer, he retracted his 200 dollar offer and said he would trade me his mint condition epic 4g touch with case,charger and 100 cash... BINGO lol, i quickly accepted.
how could i loose, i met up with the girl at 615pm to do the swap for my epic touch for her iphone 4, after thats done i wait for the guy who comes at 7 and we call sprint all over again and do another swap, it all works out and i leave with another 100 in cash and the same phone i came in with lol.
so i was tainted with a apple phone for about 10 mins... Lol it wasn't that bad but the screen was hard to adjust to.
anyone else flip on craigs? needless to say i have my epic back up on CL for hopefully another trade or sale.
i already got my epic touch running jellybean and honestly its not too much different then my gnex minus the lte which i dont have yet and the HD screen which is noticeable to me.
Seems kind of immoral to me. It's like abusing Wal-Mart return policies to make a buck. You're using Craigslist outside of its intended use for profit. But you do what you gotta do to make the bills work: I personally would not make a habit of "flipping phones".
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Seems kind of immoral to me. It's like abusing Wal-Mart return policies to make a buck. You're using Craigslist outside of its intended use for profit. But you do what you gotta do to make the bills work: I personally would not make a habit of "flipping phones".
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lol immoral?
im using a public website that is made for buying,selling, and bartering.
thats exactly what im doing.
im not "abusing" or misusing anything, and its not a mega corporation where im scamming their return policies.
its a buy sell and trade website..
thats exactly what im doing.
in fact there are reality tv shows based on this same thing, that where they use outlets like craigslist, people do it with everything under the sun, from tvs, to cars.
im not ripping anyone off or telling people things that they arent.
im giving people what they want and im getting what i want.
exactly what the website is for.
When you start to talk about morality, you instantly are entering into a subjective paradigm in the philosophical/metaphysical sense. However, I do agree you're in a way taking advantage of peoples lack of knowledge on the tech you're trading. Is this immoral? Depends on how you define it. If both parties are happy and walk away from the deal feeling like their was an equitable exchange, then I personally don't think so. Ignorance is bliss I guess. Now, if you intentionally mislead the other party into believing they're getting a much better offer than they realize for your profit then yes this is, to me, immoral, but I don't think your doing this. It is the reason I believe the majority of advertisements and those working in the field are in some sense immoral, but this is getting off topic.
In short, I haven't done it and for me the amount of time and effort isn't worth the small return.
I didn't mean to imply you're ripping anyone off. I just find it interesting how one can make a buck nowadays. I stress the kind of part because I read about the iphone part and it boggles my mind how people are willing to pay so much for so little. I get that if the needs are met then it's fine. However it boggles me further how people can conclude the iphone 4 and the galaxy s2 phone is of equal value. Galaxy s2 clearly has better specs plus MIUI more than makes up for the iOS experience. I get that not everyone is gifted with our passion which is why I use the term "immoral" for someone who knowingly barters with this information in hand. But I do agree with l3lessed that if the girl is happy then that's what matters. Then I conclude that while the ends justifies the means this time, I wouldn't make a habit of this kind of business.
That said: I'm sure you can many people in the MP that has "flipped phone".
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I didn't mean to imply you're ripping anyone off. I just find it interesting how one can make a buck nowadays. I stress the kind of part because I read about the iphone part and it boggles my mind how people are willing to pay so much for so little. I get that if the needs are met then it's fine. However it boggles me further how people can conclude the iphone 4 and the galaxy s2 phone is of equal value. Galaxy s2 clearly has better specs plus MIUI more than makes up for the iOS experience. I get that not everyone is gifted with our passion which is why I use the term "immoral" for someone who knowingly barters with this information in hand. But I do agree with l3lessed that if the girl is happy then that's what matters. Then I conclude that while the ends justifies the means this time, I wouldn't make a habit of this kind of business.
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Ahh I see.
I was just short this month and this way its legal Lol
Everyone was happy. In fact all the deals I did were brought to me, made by the other party.
I agree the iPhone to me isn't worth much but as everyone can see they have a huge faithful following, enough so to dump more premium phones (in our eyes) in order to have one.
Locally regular iPhone 4 non s versions are still selling more than galaxy s2s.
Its mind boggling to me actually.
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I flip phones all the time. If i find a great deal then i will most definitely snatch it up. One thing I never do is low ball. I always offer them a fair price that's low enough for me to make a profit, yet sits well with conscience. Business on Craigslist is easy money if you can negotiate.
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I can't see the immorality in his actions. He's entertaining offers from others and not misrepresenting his goods. If anything, I'm impressed by the fact that youre arranging Craigslist deals in advance and juggling it all. You should get into stocks or futures or something and make real money with your talents.
It's not immoral, nothing wrong with it.
I have done that once or twice, it's how I get "new phones for free" but honestly it takes too much time/effort/driving and to me is not really worth it. I do it like once a year to upgrade my phone but that's about it. It's not a bad way to get a decent device though, just be willing to put up with all the BS that goes along with it.
I actually prefer the MP here for the most part, except for a few items that are overpriced here that I want to buy or underpriced (compared to local prices) that I want to sell.
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I can't see the immorality in his actions. He's entertaining offers from others and not misrepresenting his goods. If anything, I'm impressed by the fact that youre arranging Craigslist deals in advance and juggling it all. You should get into stocks or futures or something and make real money with your talents.
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If I only knew where to begin.
I'm stuck at a dead end job for the last 8 years and live check to check.
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Damn, that's a really good idea. Never though of that. ;p
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I flip phones all the time. If i find a great deal then i will most definitely snatch it up. One thing I never do is low ball. I always offer them a fair price that's low enough for me to make a profit, yet sits well with conscience. Business on Craigslist is easy money if you can negotiate.
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Exactly.
Low ballers make me sick,but that's just a part of Craigslist.
Its not hard to do,but can be time consuming and irritating when you run into tire kickers and people who bs.
Throughout all the years I've used Craigslist for everything under the sun, from TVs,to fish tanks,to cars,refrigerators and probably other things I can't recall. But I've never have had one bad experience, never been robbed or put into any bad situations.
You just have to be smart and smell a bad situation before it happens.
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Exactly.
Low ballers make me sick,but that's just a part of Craigslist.
Its not hard to do,but can be time consuming and irritating when you run into tire kickers and people who bs.
Throughout all the years I've used Craigslist for everything under the sun, from TVs,to fish tanks,to cars,refrigerators and probably other things I can't recall. But I've never have had one bad experience, never been robbed or put into any bad situations.
You just have to be smart and smell a bad situation before it happens.
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I've never been robbed either. Just very nice people looking to buy and sell items.
If they want quick cash and I'm willing to buy, so be it. I take the time to relist the item and sit on it for a few days, a week, hell I've sat on an item for 3 months! It's all about time and effort. Here in NJ, there are really good deals. Business is just business.
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Seems kind of immoral to me. It's like abusing Wal-Mart return policies to make a buck. You're using Craigslist outside of its intended use for profit. But you do what you gotta do to make the bills work: I personally would not make a habit of "flipping phones".
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So you feel the same about people that flip houses, cars, etc? Essentially you hate capitalism? Supply & demand, etc?
I made money on craigslist this pass week. I just sold my GS3 for $400 (which I bought new for $440 on eBAY) and with the money I bought a white EVO LTE in mint condition for $225 which I sold on Ebay for $340 ($300 after fees and ship).
I list it on XDA http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900703 but the memebers here are to cheap to even recognize a good deal.
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I made money on craigslist this pass week. I just sold my GS3 for $400 (which I bought new for $440 on eBAY) and with the money I bought a white EVO LTE in mint condition for $225 which I sold on Ebay for $340 ($300 after fees and ship).
I list it on XDA http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900703 but the memebers here are to cheap to even recognize a good deal.
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Very nice.
I made some additional moves on Craigs list recently which I didn't post about.
I traded my gs2 for a white 16gb 4s which in return i traded for a new in the box black evo lte.
Sad to say I'm surprised that the resale value on these phones aren't higher, because the lte is not too much different than the gs3...
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I have for years!
Sent From My Amaze.
I think it depends on your local community. For me craigslist is a massive headache full of flakes and people wanting msrp for 2 year old used tech.
I can't even tell you how many times I've relied to ads and been ignored.
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I was talking to one of my buddies here at work who is also an Android Freak like myself and we were discussing about how Google and LG can sell such a device packing what it does for $299 or $349.
It's seems like it has really beautiful build quality also, while Samsung sells a plastic dual core S3 with half the RAM, lower resolution screen for double the price!
Don't get me wrong, I am both happy and sad that the phone is so damn cheap. Glad because it is so dirt cheap that I can buy it as a backup phone to my Note 2 and just not worry about it falling and breaking or whatever. Replacing just the LCD on my Note 2 would probably pay for the whole Nexus 4!
Sad because since it is so cheap, it almost gives me the impression that it's some kind of gophone, pay as you go device. You know, a disposable phone. Something any 13 year old who mows lawns on the weekends can afford. Also judging by the comments and anticipation in this forum, those are most likely the majority of buyers. 13 year old geeks. =)
To me the device lost something special, exclusivity.
When I first picked up my Note 2, everybody at work was in awe and were ready to go purchase one immediately.
Then I told them how much I paid, $690 off contract and they all had sticker shock. Only one other fella at my work has a Note 2 besides me now, and that's my boss. The device feels special to me.
I know this post seems a bit ridiculous, but that's something that is bugging me a little about the device. What do you guys think? A little something inside kinda wish Google priced this device similar to the Galaxy Nexus. I think it would have been more special to me. Am I crazy?
Dan37tz said:
Also judging by the comments and anticipation in this forum, those are most likely the majority of buyers. 13 year old geeks.
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Just because people are excited, you're assuming they're 13? Right...
... and imo, the price does not make it any less exclusive.
You could always buy two and strap them back-to-back for that "cachet" feel?
In any case, mainstream smartphones, like all technology, will always be getting less exclusive. If exclusivity is of import, the Tag Heuer Android phones look quite sharp, but probably will be behind on the OS curve...
Setting aside the ridiculousness of caring about exclusivity, your work colleagues likely got sticker-shock because they don't know much about the cellphone market. I'm sure they don't think of the iPhone as an "exclusive" device, and yet it's in the same range as the Note 2 off-contract. The Nexus 4 may not be a monetarily exclusive device, but it's still going to have limited sales due to the number of people who are informed enough about their options to pick one up.
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linj said:
You could always buy two and strap them back-to-back for that "cachet" feel?
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Front-to-front. The back's the best-looking part, after all; and the part that displays the ever-important logos.
You should realize that there are people outside of XDA who don't even know that this phone exists.
You say less exclusive... I say more support.
How many people actually know what a Nexus phone even is? I don't know anyone who does. They don't really advertise and come to think of it, I've never seen anyone with a Nexus (any of them).
No, it makes it lighter on my wallet. I don't care how many other people have it as long as I do.
Dan37tz said:
To me the device lost something special, exclusivity.
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I don't agree.
[13 yr old comment]If you want to feel special, maybe get it from the TMo store or import it. [/13 yr old comment]
The price is being subsidized. Just making it easier to reach more people. This way el goog can make even more money with mobile ad revenue.
Euler MD said:
You should realize that there are people outside of XDA who don't even know that this phone exists.
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Which is why we shouldn't worry about the phone being out of stock. Hopefully the stock outweighs the demand.
If having exclusivity means paying $1000 dollars, I'll take a less exclusive phone any day for $350
You think $500+ phones are exclusive? You'll find more Note 2s and iPhones than N4.
That said, the more the N4s out there, the more accessories there will be for it. And thats always a good thing.
tgyberg said:
How many people actually know what a Nexus phone even is? I don't know anyone who does. They don't really advertise and come to think of it, I've never seen anyone with a Nexus (any of them).
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This. I only know one girl outside of XDA that even knows what the Nexus line is.
Ace42 said:
Which is why we shouldn't worry about the phone being out of stock. Hopefully the stock outweighs the demand.
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Perhaps. Google may keep production low for the first wave after watching previous launches. There seems to be a lot of uncertainty about the popularity of this phone due to the lack of LTE, expandable storage, and maybe inadequate battery. Those of us looking to buy the phone can only hope that it is either not that popular or that Google didn't lower production.
Dan37tz said:
When I first picked up my Note 2, everybody at work was in awe and were ready to go purchase one immediately.
Then I told them how much I paid, $690 off contract and they all had sticker shock. Only one other fella at my work has a Note 2 besides me now, and that's my boss. The device feels special to me.
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You know what I got from reading this? That you need to feel special/better than your friends. That's no reason to jack up the price of a phone.
Tell you what, I'll buy mine, then sell it to you for $859.99, that'll really blow your colleagues out of the water! Or how about avoiding the faux pas of bragging about how much money you spent on a cell phone. Hell, if anything I'll be showing my friends this phone and telling them how cheap it was. Look at this thing, it's awesome, and cost half the price of your NoteII!
Dan37tz said:
Sad because since it is so cheap, it almost gives me the impression that it's some kind of gophone, pay as you go device. You know, a disposable phone. Something any 13 year old who mows lawns on the weekends can afford. Also judging by the comments and anticipation in this forum, those are most likely the majority of buyers. 13 year old geeks. =)
To me the device lost something special, exclusivity.
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I don't see anything wrong of a 13 year old can save up and purchase this device, it allows a younger audience to own a modern smartphone without the hefty price tag. Exclusivity to one type of group (in this case being age) isn't somthing company's want for their products, and if they lure in the younger users with the low price tag, that means more marketshare for them. The nexus 4 isn't a fashion item like more popular phones such as the iPhone, or even the galaxy s3, it's made for contract free or value plan customers who want a fast phone for a reasonable price.
Lol I think this thread should be closed. =/
Who cares? Does it matter if the phone is not as "exclusive" as you would like?
It's an amazing phone at a great price, it will further push the Android ecosystem.
If you want exclusive, stick with foreign imports of obscure devices.
Foxy Roxy said:
Lol I think this thread should be closed. =/
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I clicked the triangle thingy a while ago
bfspider said:
I clicked the triangle thingy a while ago
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XD I just did few minutes ago.