Is this source right? If so, we have the new name for our beloved Kaiser
http://smartmobilegadgets.wordpress.com/2007/07/31/htc-tytn-ii-the-ultimate-mobile-companion/
MDA Vario III
I spoke to a UK T-Mobile business customer services representative on Saturday morning about getting the Kaiser on my contract renewal - whilst checking a T-mobile system she said that the "MDA Vario III was not yet available" but that T-mobile would text me when it was. No indication of when that would be though
Rumours persist that it'll be the 8th September for T-Mobile UK.
They probably don't want to announce it too early because it might put people off upgrading until it comes out.
It's supposedly coming out as the T-Mobile Vario III, Vodafone v1615 and HTC TyTN II "among other names".
No hint as to when Vodafone will release it, and from their website, you can only get to the pocket PC phones through the business section...
I'm actually thinking I might switch from O2 to T-Mobile when my contract runs out, as T-Mobile have a much better data plan... (that said, having an "unlimited" data usage policy with a 1GB cap seems a bit dishonest to me, but then again, it's still better than anyone else I know of)
Spoke to a customer service rep at T-mob today, to tell them i want to wait a month to upgrade, so i can have the Kaiser.
Was told its being tested right now, and will be a mid September release, at a price of £280 upgrade. Obviously that price is very negotiable depending how much you spend a month. MDA Vario III will be its final name, on T-Mobile UK at least. My names on the list for one the day its released
The wife just had an MDA Touch delivered from T-Mobile UK (and very sleek it is too) but was told on the phone at the weekend that if she waited for a month the Vario III would be available.
That pretty much ties in perfectly with the 8th September. There must be an internal memo whizzing it's way around T-Mobile HQ, 'cause that date keeps cropping up.
She's more about having slim and girly phones than fully featured powerhouses though...
I've heard AT&T will on Sept 3rd or 26th.. but what about T-Mobile?
T-mobile in Germany have released a pdf showing the MDA varioIII. Beta testers have been using a Kaiser locked to T-mobile. So I think it is safe to assume it will be released on T-mobile, the question is when and with what level handset subsidy?
I was told by my local T-Mobile store that it is expected late Sept.
T-Mob UK will have the Vario III (Kaiser) late Sept @ £280 upgrade price according the lady I spoke to yesterday. I've not seen anything firm on T-Mob US.
Gordon
so what is the deal? is the USA one going to work with 3G? or are they using different freq/bands etc...
would i have to get it from tmobile? or could i get it say from ebay?
or maybe those from Germany on ebay
GordonTGopher said:
T-Mob UK will have the Vario III (Kaiser) late Sept @ £280 upgrade price according the lady I spoke to yesterday. I've not seen anything firm on T-Mob US.
Gordon
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Seems kinda expensive. I hope that price is for a 12 month contract renewal on T-Mobiles cheapest tariff.
chaps said:
Seems kinda expensive. I hope that price is for a 12 month contract renewal on T-Mobiles cheapest tariff.
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Good question - what tariff that price applies to, as it seems quite expensive? I've paid £80 last year for new MDA Vario II with Flext25+WnW price plan, so I expect to get Vario III as an upgrade later on January 2008 for not more than £100 with the same plan...
GordonTGopher said:
T-Mob UK will have the Vario III (Kaiser) late Sept @ £280 upgrade price according the lady I spoke to yesterday. I've not seen anything firm on T-Mob US.
Gordon
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Just spoke to T-Mobile UK about an upgrade, at first the girl a spoke to "had no information about the Vario III" once she realised that I knew a lot about it she then "found an email" with some information about it.
she was reluctant to give me information but i managed to get out of her that is was due out "early September", she said this could mean anything, and that the price in the email did say £280.
i Said that that was quite a lot and she said that from past experience the true price will be lower and once you take you tariff into consideration it should bring that down..... here's hoping!!!! :-D
TyTN II / T-Mobile
Today they officially announced the TyTN II for early October.
Ironic, really. The first network to confirm they're getting it (however unofficially, it's been "known" for a while now) are the last to release it.
Update I just received a few minutes ago from T-Mobile Germany:
HTC Kaiser aka MDA Vario III will be available END of October.
Yipee cant wait!
GordonTGopher said:
T-Mob UK will have the Vario III (Kaiser) late Sept @ £280 upgrade price according the lady I spoke to yesterday. I've not seen anything firm on T-Mob US.
Gordon
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Cant wait, cant wait!, Me upgrade is due around October, so fingers crossed they have it (minus delays), i might actually go for the Tytn II rather than the ameo. Ive had the mda vario, now on hermes and find the form factor excellent.
Please dont let me down, T-mobile uk!
I know, just read the press release, October!!! my Wizard has been playing up for months now and has finally died.
I've been waiting for the Kaiser for what seems like years, you cant beat T's web n' walk, but I'm seriously considering just buying the sim free HTC version and taking the £15 discount on my tariff for not taking a phone upgrade. also i don't like what T-Mobile have done with the styling.
any clues on what Vodkafone or Orange have done with there versions or are they being released as HTC branded?
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I've been waiting for the Kaiser for what seems like years, you cant beat T's web n' walk, but I'm seriously considering just buying the sim free HTC version and taking the £15 discount on my tariff for not taking a phone upgrade. also i don't like what T-Mobile have done with the styling.
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Is that £15 discount off the bill actually a real deal? Does it concern *every* customer who is not willing to take new phone, or just selected ones? Can someone confirm it?
If it's real and for everyone, I will seriously consider buying HTC-branded version and then take that discount on my renewal due January.
And me too. My T-mob 12-month contract (on Hermes) has finished last month.
£15 discount means a lot for a whole year.
When i check my online account it's just there under the upgrade and renewals section...
Just noticed though, it is £15 off for 12 months, but an 18 month contract, but still that £180 over the year, and if T-Mob are going to charge £280 for the Vario III if you buy the HTC version for around £500 there isn't that much difference e.g. £280+£180=£460 for the extra £40 i think i would prefer the unbranded HTC one.
Unbranded HTC vs T-Mobile
I would seriously you suggest you rethink that, T-mobile replaced my mda Vario II Twice, no questions asked, try getting that sort of service from HTC..thet repair it and that takes months...
Conclusion:Always buy from your carrier if you can, they have an ineterest in keeping you happy.
regards
michael
mikeycollins13 said:
I would seriously you suggest you rethink that, T-mobile replaced my mda Vario II Twice, no questions asked, try getting that sort of service from HTC..thet repair it and that takes months...
Conclusion:Always buy from your carrier if you can, they have an ineterest in keeping you happy.
regards
michael
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very good point, thanks for the advice.
I'm in down in London today on business and have just found a shop that has a demo Kaiser in store. just had a bit of a play with it.
Got really mixed emotions about it now, I've been waiting for it for months and once I had it in my hands it was like "hmm, its ok" didn't really get that wow factor I was expecting.
the funny thing is, a few weeks ago when i first held the Touch i did get that wow. so now I'm questioning my self, do i NEED the qwerty, or should i wait for the Touch II
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I'm in down in London today on business and have just found a shop that has a demo Kaiser in store. just had a bit of a play with it.
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Where is that shop, maybe I'll go there as well after work..?
Sunrise Digital Centre (Inkino) 48 Tottenham Court Road, http://www.inkino.co.uk/zen/index.php?main_page=contact_us&zenid=d729b37f9761412380b7aaad2240058d
hi all
I am a bit confused ( dont take much these days) is the HTC TYTN II the Kaiser, as they look very similar and when i google it thats what i find..
also as anyone got one recently from t-mobile as i am due a upgrade and how much did they pay for it.
Cheers for the help
Neel
Yes the Kaiser was renamed the TyTN II. Not sure about your second question.
HTC Kaiser / HTC TyTn II / T-Mobile Vario III = all the same thing
(except the Vario looks cheap and nasty)
T-Mobile is a worldwide company and people from across that world read this forum. Which T-mobile are you talking about?
I'm referring to the UK variant.
Pooper said:
I'm referring to the UK variant.
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Sorry, that wasn't directed at you, but at the OP.
i am in the UK
As far as I know Kaiser is/was the name given by HTC during the development of the device. It is now sold as the HTC Tytn II. TMobile UK are selling/will be selling this as the MDAvario III. Vodaphone UK will also carry this device as V165 or something similar.All of these devices are manufactured by HTC. Most providers will have their own customised ROM installed. Currently we are unable to CID unlock these devices and so we are stuck with default provider ROMs. Eventually I am sure Pof or some other genius on here will work out how to CID unlock them and then the fun begins with our own customised ROMs.
Yep they are all Kaisers = generic name for all of them
TyTn II is the one sold under the HTC name and then as said above you have all the other variants as well.
Mike
Are these two phones the same? Do they have same hardware, functionality, etc, except, of course, that vario is network locked? My friend told me that he found on net that vario 3 is inferior than original tytn 2.
mda doesnt have build in GPS
yes it does.
Its exactly the same apart from the front button panel. (which in hardware terms is identical, it just looks a bit different)
The MDA Vario III is built on the exact same basic platform as the TyTn II, so it should be functionally identical.
All these phones are carrier locked unless it was already unlocked when you bought it (and you didn't buy it direct from a carrier).
There have been numerous T-Mobile "MDA" models previously that are inferior to the Vario III/TyTn II so your friend may have confused your phone with any one of them...
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yes it does.
Its exactly the same apart from the front button panel. (which in hardware terms is identical, it just looks a bit different)
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I personally think that the MDA Vario III looks nicer that the TyTN II.
Hi all
My dads on his t-mobile contract and managed to get a Tytn II from his buisness contract, he's happy with his HTC Universal so im selling it
Its Brand New Sealed untouched i will manage to get pics up later with my N95
Im selling it for around £250 ONO or will Swap for a HTC Athena/X7500/Ameo/X7501 Or will give cash to swap with a HTC Shift
Thanks
Hamza
did you sell your MDA vario?
Dimushor I have a MDA vario 3 for sale and am based in London.
Interested?
how much do you ask for it and can you post some pics.
thanx