Does anyone know when the Kaiser is going to be released on one of the UK networks as a subsidized device? My old Magician is getting REALLY long in the tooth now, and I can't afford £480 right now...
Scancom have it as pre-order for Orange Business, but doesn't give any dates...
I can't afford £480 either, but i just ordered one last night lol
I think it should be available on T-Mobile by the end of the month maybe? (As the MDA Vario III i'd imagine).
I'd hazard a guess that it'll be out on Orange maybe by the end of the year?
Problem is the design of the MDA Vario III looks really ugly (tacky silver finish) compared to HTC's original version of the Tytn II
darthbane2k said:
Problem is the design of the MDA Vario III looks really ugly (tacky silver finish) compared to HTC's original version of the Tytn II
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Another reason why i chose the HTC over the T-Mobile variant
hi all
I am a bit confused ( dont take much these days) is the HTC TYTN II the Kaiser, as they look very similar and when i google it thats what i find..
also as anyone got one recently from t-mobile as i am due a upgrade and how much did they pay for it.
Cheers for the help
Neel
Yes the Kaiser was renamed the TyTN II. Not sure about your second question.
HTC Kaiser / HTC TyTn II / T-Mobile Vario III = all the same thing
(except the Vario looks cheap and nasty)
T-Mobile is a worldwide company and people from across that world read this forum. Which T-mobile are you talking about?
I'm referring to the UK variant.
Pooper said:
I'm referring to the UK variant.
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Sorry, that wasn't directed at you, but at the OP.
i am in the UK
As far as I know Kaiser is/was the name given by HTC during the development of the device. It is now sold as the HTC Tytn II. TMobile UK are selling/will be selling this as the MDAvario III. Vodaphone UK will also carry this device as V165 or something similar.All of these devices are manufactured by HTC. Most providers will have their own customised ROM installed. Currently we are unable to CID unlock these devices and so we are stuck with default provider ROMs. Eventually I am sure Pof or some other genius on here will work out how to CID unlock them and then the fun begins with our own customised ROMs.
Yep they are all Kaisers = generic name for all of them
TyTn II is the one sold under the HTC name and then as said above you have all the other variants as well.
Mike
I have the option of getting either of these phones on my contract. But im lost as to what to get! I currently have a MDA Vario (AKA Wizard).
Which phone would you get and why?
kaiser for sure
elf is a pretty low spc'd device compared to kaiser
elf have
a slow cpu no 3g no gps
kaiser have
2 times the rom and ram size compared to elf
read more
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Elf
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
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ive just got the t-mob mda vario i think its hot plenty to do with it am gona try the vario 3 if its ant thing like the the mda vario should be good
Rudegar said:
kaiser for sure
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a slow cpu no 3g no gps
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And no keyboard.
Hi
Before I start posting for real I just want to double check that this is the correct section for my device. I bought it as a HTC TyTN II on the Orange network in the UK. I'm really confused by all the names these can be called by so if someone can confirm I'm in the right place that would be great...someone said I have a Hermes but the picture doesn't look quite right! Would it be a good idea to include as many of the various names on the forum index as poss?
Thanks
A TyTN II is a kaiser one, not a hermes. Hermes is the first TyTN
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/
Look at the pictures
Great thanks for that - I tried a search on the general site for 'model list' but didn't find that page,
Thanks again - now all is clearer...
The Kaiser comes under a plethora of different names:
HTC TyTn II
T-Mobile MDA Vario III
AT&T Tilt (Pretty much the same without the front camera)
Vodafone v1615
O2 XDA Stellar (There are rumours that this has an FM radio built in but the O2 UK stores and website deny this)
I'm with T-Mobile and am thinking of upgrading from my MDA Compact lll to the MDA Compact lV. On youtube, someone is demonstrating a Sprint version of the diamond which doesn't have the bevelled back to it, it has a smooth back and is thicker than the diamond.
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=35q4g6dZdM8&feature=user
The pictures on the T-Mobile site show the same back as the sprint so it's obviously the sprint they're selling.
What are the functional differences between the two, and how much better is the MDA compact 4 from the MDA compact 3?
Has more RAM/ROM, Touch Flo works much more smoothly, no front vga camera, has bigger battery. I think that is it.
Nagrom Nniuq said:
Has more RAM/ROM, Touch Flo works much more smoothly, no front vga camera, has bigger battery. I think that is it.
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Thanks. It would help if you told me which has these things, the sprint or the non sprint?
The sprint version has those things
BUT the sprint is CDMA, and no locale of T-mobile is CDMA.
ilkhan said:
The sprint version has those things
BUT the sprint is CDMA, and no locale of T-mobile is CDMA.
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Thanks for the clarification, so the sprint is generally better than the slimmer HTC diamond is that right?
Not sure exactly what CDMA is but is this referring to 3G?
You're saying T-Mobile doesn't do 3G?
Almost all cellphone carriers are 3G. CDMA is the standard used by Sprint and Verizon (and some others), GSM is the standard used by AT&T and T-Mobile (and some others including most of the world lol).
Yes. Most of the world still uses GSM, but that doesn't make it better. GSM still uses TDMA-like technology, which severely limits it's capability. That's why you get such slow data-rates and low capacity. In fact, the newer "GSM" standards are migrating to CDMA technology (although that doesn't make it compatible with CDMA networks). I know, it's confusing.
ken830 said:
Yes. Most of the world still uses GSM, but that doesn't make it better. GSM still uses TDMA-like technology, which severely limits it's capability. That's why you get such slow data-rates and low capacity. In fact, the newer "GSM" standards are migrating to CDMA technology (although that doesn't make it compatible with CDMA networks). I know, it's confusing.
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Exactly, hopefully the rest of the world adapts to CDMA sooner rather than later. A global standard of CDMA would be nice for them and for me ;-)
Thanks. Btw, apparently the MDA Compact lV is not the sprint after all. Someone informed me that most of the carriers for some reason seem to replace the back with a smooth one. That's a pity, considering the sprint has a bigger battery life.
Does anyone know if my Artemis battery would fit into the compact lV? It's an ARTE160, 1200mAh made by Sanyo. It gives me great battery life.
Tmobile isnt selling the "sprint". T-Mobile sell the Compact IV, it is different from the Diamond by having a smooth back, different styling and is slightly lighter. There are no other differences.
T-Mobile Mda compact IV
As far as I know MDA Compact IV is exactly the same thing as HTC Diamond in terms of hardware. MDA compact IV is actually HTC Victor. (Different countries different names)
The battery is the same also, 900mAh.
The only thing people say is that there are not 192 megs of ram but 128 accessible to the system.
Actually, T-Mobile sell the HTC Victor, which is essentially the Diamond in a different case. I believe this can be purchased in Asian markets but not European ones.
I believe only O2 (in the UK) sell the Diamond (and it is the Diamond, not the Victor!) with a flat back. I know Orange sell it with the bevelled back and I 'think' Vodafone do too.
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Actually, T-Mobile sell the HTC Victor, which is essentially the Diamond in a different case. I believe this can be purchased in Asian markets but not European ones.
I believe only O2 (in the UK) sell the Diamond (and it is the Diamond, not the Victor!) with a flat back.
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Now I'm confused, but only a bit
If the O2 Diamond has a flat back case, and the T-Mobile Victor is 'essentially' the Diamond with a flatback case, these are exactly the same phone just different names or there is some other minor differences apart from the cases? I'd not heard of the HTC Victor and cannot find anything mentioned about it on the xda-developers page which shows names and pictures of all their models.