I'm with T-Mobile and am thinking of upgrading from my MDA Compact lll to the MDA Compact lV. On youtube, someone is demonstrating a Sprint version of the diamond which doesn't have the bevelled back to it, it has a smooth back and is thicker than the diamond.
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=35q4g6dZdM8&feature=user
The pictures on the T-Mobile site show the same back as the sprint so it's obviously the sprint they're selling.
What are the functional differences between the two, and how much better is the MDA compact 4 from the MDA compact 3?
Has more RAM/ROM, Touch Flo works much more smoothly, no front vga camera, has bigger battery. I think that is it.
Nagrom Nniuq said:
Has more RAM/ROM, Touch Flo works much more smoothly, no front vga camera, has bigger battery. I think that is it.
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Thanks. It would help if you told me which has these things, the sprint or the non sprint?
The sprint version has those things
BUT the sprint is CDMA, and no locale of T-mobile is CDMA.
ilkhan said:
The sprint version has those things
BUT the sprint is CDMA, and no locale of T-mobile is CDMA.
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Thanks for the clarification, so the sprint is generally better than the slimmer HTC diamond is that right?
Not sure exactly what CDMA is but is this referring to 3G?
You're saying T-Mobile doesn't do 3G?
Almost all cellphone carriers are 3G. CDMA is the standard used by Sprint and Verizon (and some others), GSM is the standard used by AT&T and T-Mobile (and some others including most of the world lol).
Yes. Most of the world still uses GSM, but that doesn't make it better. GSM still uses TDMA-like technology, which severely limits it's capability. That's why you get such slow data-rates and low capacity. In fact, the newer "GSM" standards are migrating to CDMA technology (although that doesn't make it compatible with CDMA networks). I know, it's confusing.
ken830 said:
Yes. Most of the world still uses GSM, but that doesn't make it better. GSM still uses TDMA-like technology, which severely limits it's capability. That's why you get such slow data-rates and low capacity. In fact, the newer "GSM" standards are migrating to CDMA technology (although that doesn't make it compatible with CDMA networks). I know, it's confusing.
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Exactly, hopefully the rest of the world adapts to CDMA sooner rather than later. A global standard of CDMA would be nice for them and for me ;-)
Thanks. Btw, apparently the MDA Compact lV is not the sprint after all. Someone informed me that most of the carriers for some reason seem to replace the back with a smooth one. That's a pity, considering the sprint has a bigger battery life.
Does anyone know if my Artemis battery would fit into the compact lV? It's an ARTE160, 1200mAh made by Sanyo. It gives me great battery life.
Tmobile isnt selling the "sprint". T-Mobile sell the Compact IV, it is different from the Diamond by having a smooth back, different styling and is slightly lighter. There are no other differences.
T-Mobile Mda compact IV
As far as I know MDA Compact IV is exactly the same thing as HTC Diamond in terms of hardware. MDA compact IV is actually HTC Victor. (Different countries different names)
The battery is the same also, 900mAh.
The only thing people say is that there are not 192 megs of ram but 128 accessible to the system.
Actually, T-Mobile sell the HTC Victor, which is essentially the Diamond in a different case. I believe this can be purchased in Asian markets but not European ones.
I believe only O2 (in the UK) sell the Diamond (and it is the Diamond, not the Victor!) with a flat back. I know Orange sell it with the bevelled back and I 'think' Vodafone do too.
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Actually, T-Mobile sell the HTC Victor, which is essentially the Diamond in a different case. I believe this can be purchased in Asian markets but not European ones.
I believe only O2 (in the UK) sell the Diamond (and it is the Diamond, not the Victor!) with a flat back.
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Now I'm confused, but only a bit
If the O2 Diamond has a flat back case, and the T-Mobile Victor is 'essentially' the Diamond with a flatback case, these are exactly the same phone just different names or there is some other minor differences apart from the cases? I'd not heard of the HTC Victor and cannot find anything mentioned about it on the xda-developers page which shows names and pictures of all their models.
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I want to buy a Diamond or a Touch Cruise because the voice call issue of the Diamond.
I looked GSMARENA and I want to ask if someone can remomend their sponsors.
In deep, I need opinions about phonesource-usa / bargainoffers / cti-miami / cechowireless / cellsholesale. Was anyone bought his HTC or other here to recomend?
Many thanks in advance.
Where to buy?
I want to know also.... where can I buy a Diamond Touch in the USA?
Well Texasaggie1, you have 5 places that cells this phone and many others.
I bought mine off ebay. I stay in mississippi. Im using tmobile which uses 1900 gsm. I havent had any issues with calls. It picks up better than my tilt was in some places.
TD in USA
I got mine from California, but cant recall just after they came out. I did some whats called....googling... and found two places that will sell USA 850 gsm phones in July and August if you want to wait for a 850 TD. Personally i will buy a USA 850 TDA when they come out and will probably sell my triband. I guess I got one of the GREY so called phones. However it works like a charm with just the usual issues that everyone has, however I really like it. I have two places that will be selling the USA 850 phones so far.
http://www.htcphonestore.com/product.asp?itemMDL=HTC_DIAMOND_US
www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=23369
http://www.expansys-usa.com/h.aspx
Try that !
Just curious as to why some Diamonds are referred to as 'grey'?
`cause they are "illegal" = grey imports
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`cause they are "illegal" = grey imports
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WRONG!!!!! they are not illegal. When they talk about grey imports...it just means that the product was destined for another part of the world but somehow some retailers managed to get it for their region ie alot fo the grey units in the UK were for the Asian market. Only problem is that having a grey unit means you wont get any support from HTC uk...you would need to register it on the Asian site of HTC and also for any warranty repairs you would need to send it back to them in Asia. Although places like Expansys have said they would look after warranty repairs etc themselves.
Oh ok cool Haha. I thought they meant grey as in the colour of the actual diamond. 'Cause mine is imported and the area around the LCD and the hardware keys look slightly grey and I thought there was actual 'black' versions. I would love to have a complete black looking version. Is the O2 version completely black or does it have that grey kind of look as well around the LCD and the hardware buttons? I wonder if I'd be able to switch the housing later on.
I spotted this on PDADb
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1387
It mentions a new KAISER 140 model. Anyone knows of it? I didn't find another mention.
UPDATE: It seems that it supports "UMTS1700", unlike the other models?
You can see a comparison table here:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=1387&id2=733
I think it is the Emonster model that people have previously mentioned.
Not much difference really.
This Kaiser should work on either AT&T or T-Mobile in the US. It should work in Europe as well sporting all those data bands.
I want one.
Do any AT&T insiders know if the current Tilt will be upgraded to this version of the Kaiser? It's nice to see that this new version is supporting UMTS1700 More bands, the better. It's too bad the Diamond Pro isn't supporting as many UMTS bands as the Kaiser or Hermes
Why would AT&T want to have a phone that supports a Frequency Band it doesn't use?
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You can see a comparison table here:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=1387&id2=733
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PDAdb still says that the Kaiser has a transflective screen. Anyone tried to use your GPS outdoors in bright sunlight?
I think this will be a good idea to start a thread for us U.S. 3G HTC Touch Diamond owners so we can help each other with good tip's on how to make our U.S. Diamonds work better.
O.K. Now let's start by posting what ROM,COOKED ROM,& RADIO'S your using,and how they are working on your phone's.
I have the Unlocked U.S. 3G GSM Model
OOP'S By the way i forgot to mention i currently have the stock ROM right now.
umm...Diamond hardware is all the same...all roms that are on the euro diamond will work on the US, no performances changes...only thing that would matter is radio...
I guess i just want to make sure which stuff work's good on our phone's.
Missing front camera...
I just got my diamond and I noticed its missing the front vga camera. Are all the US version missing the front camera? I have the one that is compatible with AT&T.
All US models lack the front vga camera, Sprint or AT&T.
Hello all,
What's your idea about the operator branded HTC phones compared to no brand of the same models ? To me, it looks like the T-Mobile & AT&T branded HTC models are superior than the unbranded ones of the same models.
In terms of material quality.
What do you think ?
On my opinion Unbranded are like the original ones and always much better in design and look than any cell provided branded...
Operator branded HTC phones usually are software bloated & have decales on the hardware!
but again
the Sprint Branded [email protected] have a 3.5mm slot for headphones, while the Unbrabded or any other branded TP2 doesent apart from the decal and not having the secondary camera..its ok i think
I've compared the unbranded HTC touch diamond and T-Mobile variant of Touch diamond side by side. The T-mobile one seemed to be made with better material quality.
but i might be wrong,too.
A typical example is the t-mobile touch dual, the HTC unbranded has more keys and is harder to get cooked roms working with it!!
The topaz I got from t-mobile doesnt look as solid as the HTC unbranded one!
The software side should rarely be an issue if you are on this site you already know how easy it is to change the software! Orange made some real blunders with the orange software bar they were adding to the software on phones eating extra memory and slowing them down! thank god for xda!!
Companies like AT&T really screw up their devices. They rearrange the entire keyboard, change the colors a bunch, slap decals all over, and load the device to capacity with free trials which you can't uninstall. If you install a cooked ROM, you can fix a few of the problems, but AT&T and the like should learn what their users really want. If the OEM devices were a bit cheaper and supported AT&T's 3G frequencies, I'd buy the OEM one from HTC instead of one from AT&T.
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On my opinion Unbranded are like the original ones and always much better in design and look than any cell provided branded...
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But the ATT Tilt is much better than the HTC Touch Pro2.
And the Verizon Wireless Touch Pro2 has a headphone jack and a more unique color than the unlocked version.
poetryrocksalot said:
But the ATT Tilt is much better than the HTC Touch Pro2.
And the Verizon Wireless Touch Pro2 has a headphone jack and a more unique color than the unlocked version.
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Actually the unbranded tp2 has a nice silver keyboard which makes it look more appealing than having a black, dull look. Not, having the stupid At&T logo is a major plus.
Completly agree!
even with no 3.5mm jack unbranded is superior in look and design
And has front camera
In the UK some operators actually take software and features off phones! (Dont know what its like in other countries!)
For example, a HD2 on O2 won't have the option to use the phone as a modem. I personally don't think operators should be able to mess with the phones, but thats just my opinion
Mondez said:
In the UK some operators actually take software and features off phones! (Dont know what its like in other countries!)
For example, a HD2 on O2 won't have the option to use the phone as a modem. I personally don't think operators should be able to mess with the phones, but thats just my opinion
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well you say that but it does, now... O2 started shipping stock HD2's that are unlocked completely. 3 months later, makes me wonder if they will ever release an update for the locked phone.
I love the HD7, but I HATE the “t-mobile” logo. It’s hideous! That logo will 100% make me disregard from dropping any cash on that device.
1) Can I get the European version and use it on t-mobile’s 3G network? I assume the new HD7 does not has hspa+.
2) BTW, why is it that the euro HD2 does not have a carrier logo on it?
anyone? whats do u think?
If the HD7 does launch on a international carrier I'm sure you can unlocks it's sim, but don't expect any Tmo-US 3G. Tmobile USA isn't using the 3G standard everyone is using and has been having a hard time getting support from unlocked devices.
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Do you think it will be able to be unlocked to AT&T in the future?
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Do you think it will be able to be unlocked to AT&T in the future?
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Im intrested in knowing this also. Had my hd2 running edge on us att,but that has got old want 3g or better
Telstra is the answer!
An Australian cellphone company by the nemae of Telstra carries the HD2. Telstra operates their 3G network in the 850mhz band which is the same band that AT&T primarily uses. I curently have been using an unlocked Telstra HTC HD2 (costed me $1000) on AT&T's network for several months now and could not be happier, I had to upgrade the firmware, the phone will not run in the U.S. with stock Telstra firmware.
As for the HTC HD 7, Cnet Australia is reporting it is headed for Telstra in early 2011 here is the link to the article: http://www.cnet.com.au/htc-hd7-339306576.htm . I would hold off buying it up untill more info is on xda about replacing the firmware to make it compatible in the U.S.
not sure about the logo thing, i havnt had or seen a phone in the uk with a carrier logo, im not saying ther isnt, i just havnt seen one.
Every year I have bought a new HTC device, but this time it looks like I don't buy one.
My HD2 can make more than the hd7, WP7 can be ported so I have no advice of buying the HD7
based on my experience with the HD2. O2 UK just branded the software, I suppose it was because this was the first HTC phone that they had without any hadrware rebranding. I imagine it was cheaper for O2 too do it this way.
I expect the HD7 will have an O2 HUB and probably colours. In Europe O2 will be provideing 16GB storeage as opposed to the 8 GB for the unbranded European version.
I expect the phone to be SIM locked like the HD2 but you can get an unlock coade from O2. We shall see
Here in germany all o2 devices are unlocked.
Amazon.de sells a HD7 without branding for 599 euros.
ugh. i just hate branding!
are all uk phones unlocked?
my hd2 was bought in europe unlocked.
id like to have an australia hd7, unbranded, and hope that it will work with att 3g.
lemonspeakers said:
ugh. i just hate branding!
are all uk phones unlocked?
my hd2 was bought in europe unlocked.
id like to have an australia hd7, unbranded, and hope that it will work with att 3g.
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If you buy a UK phone from a carrier (like O2, Vodafone, Orange, T-Mobile, etc.) they will be locked as they are often subsidised by the carrier, although the carrier sometimes unlocks them for no charge if you ask.
In terms of logo use, O2 doesn't seem to brand any of their phones on the outer hardware, they just brand the software. But they seem to be the only one - Vodafone, Orange and T-Mobile over here seem to brand a lot of their phones on the case.
To tell you the truth, that T-Mobile logo looks kinda flashy, makes it seem more elegant... it's pretty funny how you are not purchasing a device and going through such a struggle, just cause it has the company name plastered on the top right corner of the device. Be happy it's not the device name:
The T-Mobile7
lol >.>?
Well... if it's just the Logo you're in luck. T-Mobile, at least in europe, is normally putting there name (and magenta color theme) in every spot possible on device hardware and software.
If you buy it unlocked from europe it will only support the 900 Mhz and 2100 Mhz bands, both of which are not in use in the US. The asian version seems to be the same on that front.
U can look up that information on HTCs homepage in the device specifications.
StevieBallz said:
Well... if it's just the Logo you're in luck. T-Mobile, at least in europe, is normally putting there name (and magenta color theme) in every spot possible on device hardware and software.
If you buy it unlocked from europe it will only support the 900 Mhz and 2100 Mhz bands, both of which are not in use in the US. The asian version seems to be the same on that front.
U can look up that information on HTCs homepage in the device specifications.
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NOOOOOO!!!
then am I sh*t out of luck then? Is there anyone in the world who uses T-mobile's 3G frequencies that WONT brand "T-mobile" on the HD7?
what are my HD7 options if I DO want data on my phone?