I want to buy a Diamond or a Touch Cruise because the voice call issue of the Diamond.
I looked GSMARENA and I want to ask if someone can remomend their sponsors.
In deep, I need opinions about phonesource-usa / bargainoffers / cti-miami / cechowireless / cellsholesale. Was anyone bought his HTC or other here to recomend?
Many thanks in advance.
Where to buy?
I want to know also.... where can I buy a Diamond Touch in the USA?
Well Texasaggie1, you have 5 places that cells this phone and many others.
I bought mine off ebay. I stay in mississippi. Im using tmobile which uses 1900 gsm. I havent had any issues with calls. It picks up better than my tilt was in some places.
TD in USA
I got mine from California, but cant recall just after they came out. I did some whats called....googling... and found two places that will sell USA 850 gsm phones in July and August if you want to wait for a 850 TD. Personally i will buy a USA 850 TDA when they come out and will probably sell my triband. I guess I got one of the GREY so called phones. However it works like a charm with just the usual issues that everyone has, however I really like it. I have two places that will be selling the USA 850 phones so far.
http://www.htcphonestore.com/product.asp?itemMDL=HTC_DIAMOND_US
www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=23369
http://www.expansys-usa.com/h.aspx
Try that !
Just curious as to why some Diamonds are referred to as 'grey'?
`cause they are "illegal" = grey imports
aragornol said:
`cause they are "illegal" = grey imports
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WRONG!!!!! they are not illegal. When they talk about grey imports...it just means that the product was destined for another part of the world but somehow some retailers managed to get it for their region ie alot fo the grey units in the UK were for the Asian market. Only problem is that having a grey unit means you wont get any support from HTC uk...you would need to register it on the Asian site of HTC and also for any warranty repairs you would need to send it back to them in Asia. Although places like Expansys have said they would look after warranty repairs etc themselves.
Oh ok cool Haha. I thought they meant grey as in the colour of the actual diamond. 'Cause mine is imported and the area around the LCD and the hardware keys look slightly grey and I thought there was actual 'black' versions. I would love to have a complete black looking version. Is the O2 version completely black or does it have that grey kind of look as well around the LCD and the hardware buttons? I wonder if I'd be able to switch the housing later on.
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The Quad-Band Touch Diamond surfaced on the CompUSA website:
http://www.compusa.com/applications...-_-Main-_-COMEM066-_-Laptops&SRCCODE=COMEM066
Do you people thing is legit, or a missprint?
I just placed my order, we'll wait and see, and hope for the best.....
You should phone them and check. If they don't know get the complete model number of the phone. P3700 seems to be the normal european version. I expect the US one to have a letter at the end.
I called them to make sure and the rep reassured me that's is quad-band.
But thats not really assuring anything, because this reps just read off their screens.
So the only way is to wait and see....
P.S. The price is a bit steep ($779) I wish I would have some more patience and get it from mobilecityonline.com for $699....
Its tri-band for sure. The US version will be available around Sept.
Im sure its a miss-print. Can you prove me wrong??? I will be happy....
Yes indeed, this is the regular version, not the US version:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/18/htc-touch-diamond-surfaces-at-compusa-with-quad-band-connecti/
What a shame, we'll have to wait a bit longer....
They will not have FCC certification until mid August so how can they sell it as US version? This is most likely the European or HK version.
Is it me or does CompUSA site look so much like tigerdirect's site? I hate tigerdirect with a passion and I did not like crapusa either when they were in town so no love loss there.
Thats probably because Tiger bought what was left of CompUSA -- something like 10 stores in Florida and Texas as well as their online sales.
Essentially it IS TigerDirect.
its the same touch diamond, read the update 2 on engadget, HTC contacted them and its fake.
Hi guys,
Well, the shop that originally sold me the GSM Diamond has exchanged it to the proper 3G unlocked version.
Do not want to go through the bother with shipping back to Japan and dealing with customs. Besides I pre-ordered my Touch Pro with expansys
Thus, I have a new 3G model up for grabs. I paid 750 Canadian for it. Will let it go for 650 CDN.
Thanks.
This would be 3G on Rogers Network? Are you sure of this?
Has it been opened our used yet?
There is no network associated with this. It should be an HTC Retail version that is 3G capable hardware wise. Weather you choose to use it in a 3G network area is up to yourself.
It would be unopened but to be honest I have asked my friend to open it and make sure that it is the correct model that the shop is exchanging for me. So, in actuality it will be opened but unused. He is just going to make sure it is indeed unlocked and 3G.
The reason for this is when I orginally bought the diamond from this shop before returning to Japan they gave me the Indian GSM model, which they are not exchanging as mentioned.
I guess if it is a huge issue to anyone I can ask him not to open it and go by the specs on the box. Buyers choice. But, I need to know as the new one should be in by Thursday.
thx
Careful potential buyers, there is no Diamond, with any ROM, that currently supports North American 3G bands... Only 900/2100mhz. Does not have the hardware necessary to do so.
Thanks for that. Perhaps the best thing is for me to ship it back to Japan and sell here. Not sure if this can be included in any future radio/rom update/upgrade at this point.
But it is the 3G version but as mentioned about supports 1900/2100 frequencies.
Currently:
HSDPA/WCDMA:
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Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
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Up to 384 kbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Yeah, didn't wanna be a jerk and get you out of a sale, but people should know what they're buying. I'd ship it back to Japan if I were you, that's probably your best bet (unless someone would rather have EDGE on their Diamond now than 3G on it in a few months).
np,
I would just recommend that anyone thinking about it read the specs on the HTC site for the current model.
thx
I'm gonna keep this thread alive for the next 3 days, then it will be closed and cleaned up!
What the hell????
I bought one from ebay.
rom version is ASIA WWE.
No front camera.
Why?
I didnt know there were 2 different versions.
Pictures please. Could be fake...
you bought the version without 3G
After doing a little research just now i found this...
My diamond came branded with an Airtel startup logo.
so I searched a bit and found this is a company from india.
now I am guessing the phone came from india.
although the seller did not say.
anyway.
looking on the offical HTC websites and navigating different countries you can see that most, if not all, have pictures of the actual phone with the front camera.
except for.... INDIA...
http://www.htc.com/in/product.aspx?id=48110
look on the official specs...
Camera 3.2 megapixel color camera with auto focus
it doesn't even mention the front camera as in other countries.
and the pictures don't show the front camera either.
now thats something...
why? no clue....
but beware that this can happen with you too...
I guess I will have to live frontcameraless ...
check this and the comments too:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/05/23/india-picks-up-htc-touch-diamond-3g-not-included/
apparently it has no 3g.. petroOMG is right..
and also it seems that the phone is cheaper in india becoz of this.
I was wondering if it could be a firmware lock only, but I guess the price difference answers my question...
I have modded my phone ... before noticing this..
Upgraded the Radio Version and Firmware to a cooked one..
Everything is working fine.. reception is normal..
I cannot test 3g though as my carrier doesn't support it at the moment.
oh welll.. if you gona think about it it is no big deal for me...
here in my city in brazil 3G is still being implemented and only some areas of the city has coverage with lots of dropouts... everything "beta" at the moment.
At least its not a fake...
Or just put it back on eBay, sell it on and then get the one you want?
Up to you. Depends if you can live without the front facing camera or not.
I occasionally use it so find it pretty useful but i bet most of the Diamond users out there don't bother with it.
diogodasilva said:
What the hell????
I bought one from ebay.
rom version is ASIA WWE.
No front camera.
Why?
I didnt know there were 2 different versions.
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the reason is that the phone is made for India,wich country doesn;t have a 3g network.There is no reason for secondary camera for 3g phone calls
Hello ppl....i,m putting this information in block letters because i want everyone to see......the phone makers are taking away front camera option we cant use front camerato take anymore pictures....only when we make video calls can the fron cam be use.....the same with my nokia 6600 slide......spread the word
I don't think it's a "no 3g" thing..
the US 3g doesn't have one either. I wonder if it has to do with the market instead. (regulations, licensing, etc.)
maybe in regions where video-calls are not supported, the devices are coming without front camera?
Different areas differnent Diamond
North American Version (USA) has 1350 mh battery and dont have front camera and 3G for american bands, mine is this.
Argentina version (Personal Opereator) has the same bands that the american (is ok for us), has 1350 mh BATTERY (as the north america version) and front camera.
Depends the country and the operator.
Sorry for my english
Carlos
calito said:
North American Version (USA) has 1350 mh battery and dont have front camera and 3G for american bands, mine is this.
Argentina version (Personal Opereator) has the same bands that the american (is ok for us), has 1350 mh BATTERY (as the north america version) and front camera.
Depends the country and the operator.
Sorry for my english
Carlos
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True, this version is different from Airtel, 3G support, but if this is not for video call, come in the box specifications.
The chip is not MSM7206A is MSM7201A
http://www.htc.com/us/product.aspx?id=60040
Version US
http://www.htc.com/europe/product/touchdiamond/specification.html
And this is European version.
I have one that odesnt have the front camera, does that mean that i can't get 3G coverage in areas around me that have it? I have a radio version that supports 3G but if the phone itself doesnt have 3G capability then ill send it back...
I also bought the same from ebaybut onlt for 175$ and it has no front camera, although, i'm happy to have a diamond on the price of carbon!
Why you guys are worried?
My fone is a 3G handset, and i never make a video call, so, why i afraid of not having a cheap VGA front cam?
If you guys too, never made a video call and then also reading this post!
Shame on You!!!!
Don't worry n Be happy!!!!
Right now I have a choice between original HTC Diamond or the US version but I am not sure which one to pick. Can anyone please shed some light on this? Thank you in advance!
it would help if you were to mention where you live (US vs. Europe) and travel to, and other things factoring into your decision. if you're in the US (e.g., live here) go with the US version because it has the correct 3G radio; high-speed internet access on your phone AND 850 band which provides better signal..
Sorry, I live in US and on T-Mobile network.
Main difference between the EU and US models lies in the 3G/HSDPA data connections. While serious doubts/uncertainties on the use of EU model for 3G on T-Mobile (only 26 cities in the US so far) have been raised (details can be found in this thread), the US model will allow you to use the 3G/HSDPA data connection should you decide to switch to AT&T in the future. Second, the EU model has a front camera for video conferencing, but I was told neither T-Mobile nor AT&T would make this option available to their phone customers at this time. There are software available through Wifi for video conferencing as I learned from this thread, and you would need the EU model to do it if it works (I haven't tried). Google Maps, third, is not installed in the EU model, but there is a CAB file to be downloaded from this thread or the google website. Price wise, at last, the US model is a little cheaper than the EU model by $10-$20 USD (may due to the lack of the front camera?). There have been reports in this thread about yellow/green/wash-out background in the US model. This may be something you want to check closely if you want to consider the US model.
I read some other thread here which points out that the Euro version has the yellow spots and yellow tint problem, not the US version.
tzour said:
Main difference between the EU and US models lies in the 3G/HSDPA data connections. While serious doubts/uncertainties on the use of EU model for 3G on T-Mobile (only 26 cities in the US so far) have been raised (details can be found in this thread), the US model will allow you to use the 3G/HSDPA data connection should you decide to switch to AT&T in the future. Second, the EU model has a front camera for video conferencing, but I was told neither T-Mobile nor AT&T would make this option available to their phone customers at this time. There are software available through Wifi for video conferencing as I learned from this thread, and you would need the EU model to do it if it works (I haven't tried). Google Maps, third, is not installed in the EU model, but there is a CAB file to be downloaded from this thread or the google website. Price wise, at last, the US model is a little cheaper than the EU model by $10-$20 USD (may due to the lack of the front camera?). There have been reports in this thread about yellow/green/wash-out background in the US model. This may be something you want to check closely if you want to consider the US model.
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good clarification on the 3G network; T-Mobile uses, I believe, the 1700 3G band in the US and att uses the 850/1900 3G band. also, if you weren't aware, the US version of the Diamond is available at Best Buy Mobile, typically located in Best Buy stoes.
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I read some other thread here which points out that the Euro version has the yellow spots and yellow tint problem, not the US version.
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Then probably yellow tints/stripes are found for both models:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426319&page=10, which is for the US 3G Diamond.. sigh
@cortez.i: Thank you for confirming the complicated 3G issues
The US version is also more easily returned and exchanged by just going into a Best Buy and it will be better covered under the warranty from HTC. HTC is not pleased that companies like Expansys sell Euro HTC phones to customers in the US and says it won't fully cover those phones. You can't use either model on 3G on T-Mobile USA, so for you the main difference would be the warranty.
I love the HD7, but I HATE the “t-mobile” logo. It’s hideous! That logo will 100% make me disregard from dropping any cash on that device.
1) Can I get the European version and use it on t-mobile’s 3G network? I assume the new HD7 does not has hspa+.
2) BTW, why is it that the euro HD2 does not have a carrier logo on it?
anyone? whats do u think?
If the HD7 does launch on a international carrier I'm sure you can unlocks it's sim, but don't expect any Tmo-US 3G. Tmobile USA isn't using the 3G standard everyone is using and has been having a hard time getting support from unlocked devices.
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Do you think it will be able to be unlocked to AT&T in the future?
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Do you think it will be able to be unlocked to AT&T in the future?
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Im intrested in knowing this also. Had my hd2 running edge on us att,but that has got old want 3g or better
Telstra is the answer!
An Australian cellphone company by the nemae of Telstra carries the HD2. Telstra operates their 3G network in the 850mhz band which is the same band that AT&T primarily uses. I curently have been using an unlocked Telstra HTC HD2 (costed me $1000) on AT&T's network for several months now and could not be happier, I had to upgrade the firmware, the phone will not run in the U.S. with stock Telstra firmware.
As for the HTC HD 7, Cnet Australia is reporting it is headed for Telstra in early 2011 here is the link to the article: http://www.cnet.com.au/htc-hd7-339306576.htm . I would hold off buying it up untill more info is on xda about replacing the firmware to make it compatible in the U.S.
not sure about the logo thing, i havnt had or seen a phone in the uk with a carrier logo, im not saying ther isnt, i just havnt seen one.
Every year I have bought a new HTC device, but this time it looks like I don't buy one.
My HD2 can make more than the hd7, WP7 can be ported so I have no advice of buying the HD7
based on my experience with the HD2. O2 UK just branded the software, I suppose it was because this was the first HTC phone that they had without any hadrware rebranding. I imagine it was cheaper for O2 too do it this way.
I expect the HD7 will have an O2 HUB and probably colours. In Europe O2 will be provideing 16GB storeage as opposed to the 8 GB for the unbranded European version.
I expect the phone to be SIM locked like the HD2 but you can get an unlock coade from O2. We shall see
Here in germany all o2 devices are unlocked.
Amazon.de sells a HD7 without branding for 599 euros.
ugh. i just hate branding!
are all uk phones unlocked?
my hd2 was bought in europe unlocked.
id like to have an australia hd7, unbranded, and hope that it will work with att 3g.
lemonspeakers said:
ugh. i just hate branding!
are all uk phones unlocked?
my hd2 was bought in europe unlocked.
id like to have an australia hd7, unbranded, and hope that it will work with att 3g.
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If you buy a UK phone from a carrier (like O2, Vodafone, Orange, T-Mobile, etc.) they will be locked as they are often subsidised by the carrier, although the carrier sometimes unlocks them for no charge if you ask.
In terms of logo use, O2 doesn't seem to brand any of their phones on the outer hardware, they just brand the software. But they seem to be the only one - Vodafone, Orange and T-Mobile over here seem to brand a lot of their phones on the case.
To tell you the truth, that T-Mobile logo looks kinda flashy, makes it seem more elegant... it's pretty funny how you are not purchasing a device and going through such a struggle, just cause it has the company name plastered on the top right corner of the device. Be happy it's not the device name:
The T-Mobile7
lol >.>?
Well... if it's just the Logo you're in luck. T-Mobile, at least in europe, is normally putting there name (and magenta color theme) in every spot possible on device hardware and software.
If you buy it unlocked from europe it will only support the 900 Mhz and 2100 Mhz bands, both of which are not in use in the US. The asian version seems to be the same on that front.
U can look up that information on HTCs homepage in the device specifications.
StevieBallz said:
Well... if it's just the Logo you're in luck. T-Mobile, at least in europe, is normally putting there name (and magenta color theme) in every spot possible on device hardware and software.
If you buy it unlocked from europe it will only support the 900 Mhz and 2100 Mhz bands, both of which are not in use in the US. The asian version seems to be the same on that front.
U can look up that information on HTCs homepage in the device specifications.
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NOOOOOO!!!
then am I sh*t out of luck then? Is there anyone in the world who uses T-mobile's 3G frequencies that WONT brand "T-mobile" on the HD7?
what are my HD7 options if I DO want data on my phone?