My Diamond has no Front camera! - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

What the hell????
I bought one from ebay.
rom version is ASIA WWE.
No front camera.
Why?
I didnt know there were 2 different versions.

Pictures please. Could be fake...

you bought the version without 3G

After doing a little research just now i found this...
My diamond came branded with an Airtel startup logo.
so I searched a bit and found this is a company from india.
now I am guessing the phone came from india.
although the seller did not say.
anyway.
looking on the offical HTC websites and navigating different countries you can see that most, if not all, have pictures of the actual phone with the front camera.
except for.... INDIA...
http://www.htc.com/in/product.aspx?id=48110
look on the official specs...
Camera 3.2 megapixel color camera with auto focus
it doesn't even mention the front camera as in other countries.
and the pictures don't show the front camera either.
now thats something...
why? no clue....
but beware that this can happen with you too...
I guess I will have to live frontcameraless ...

check this and the comments too:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/05/23/india-picks-up-htc-touch-diamond-3g-not-included/
apparently it has no 3g.. petroOMG is right..
and also it seems that the phone is cheaper in india becoz of this.
I was wondering if it could be a firmware lock only, but I guess the price difference answers my question...
I have modded my phone ... before noticing this..
Upgraded the Radio Version and Firmware to a cooked one..
Everything is working fine.. reception is normal..
I cannot test 3g though as my carrier doesn't support it at the moment.
oh welll.. if you gona think about it it is no big deal for me...
here in my city in brazil 3G is still being implemented and only some areas of the city has coverage with lots of dropouts... everything "beta" at the moment.
At least its not a fake...

Or just put it back on eBay, sell it on and then get the one you want?
Up to you. Depends if you can live without the front facing camera or not.
I occasionally use it so find it pretty useful but i bet most of the Diamond users out there don't bother with it.

diogodasilva said:
What the hell????
I bought one from ebay.
rom version is ASIA WWE.
No front camera.
Why?
I didnt know there were 2 different versions.
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the reason is that the phone is made for India,wich country doesn;t have a 3g network.There is no reason for secondary camera for 3g phone calls

Hello ppl....i,m putting this information in block letters because i want everyone to see......the phone makers are taking away front camera option we cant use front camerato take anymore pictures....only when we make video calls can the fron cam be use.....the same with my nokia 6600 slide......spread the word

I don't think it's a "no 3g" thing..
the US 3g doesn't have one either. I wonder if it has to do with the market instead. (regulations, licensing, etc.)

maybe in regions where video-calls are not supported, the devices are coming without front camera?

Different areas differnent Diamond
North American Version (USA) has 1350 mh battery and dont have front camera and 3G for american bands, mine is this.
Argentina version (Personal Opereator) has the same bands that the american (is ok for us), has 1350 mh BATTERY (as the north america version) and front camera.
Depends the country and the operator.
Sorry for my english
Carlos

calito said:
North American Version (USA) has 1350 mh battery and dont have front camera and 3G for american bands, mine is this.
Argentina version (Personal Opereator) has the same bands that the american (is ok for us), has 1350 mh BATTERY (as the north america version) and front camera.
Depends the country and the operator.
Sorry for my english
Carlos
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True, this version is different from Airtel, 3G support, but if this is not for video call, come in the box specifications.
The chip is not MSM7206A is MSM7201A
http://www.htc.com/us/product.aspx?id=60040
Version US
http://www.htc.com/europe/product/touchdiamond/specification.html
And this is European version.

I have one that odesnt have the front camera, does that mean that i can't get 3G coverage in areas around me that have it? I have a radio version that supports 3G but if the phone itself doesnt have 3G capability then ill send it back...

I also bought the same from ebaybut onlt for 175$ and it has no front camera, although, i'm happy to have a diamond on the price of carbon!
Why you guys are worried?
My fone is a 3G handset, and i never make a video call, so, why i afraid of not having a cheap VGA front cam?
If you guys too, never made a video call and then also reading this post!
Shame on You!!!!
Don't worry n Be happy!!!!

Related

Where to buy in USA?

I want to buy a Diamond or a Touch Cruise because the voice call issue of the Diamond.
I looked GSMARENA and I want to ask if someone can remomend their sponsors.
In deep, I need opinions about phonesource-usa / bargainoffers / cti-miami / cechowireless / cellsholesale. Was anyone bought his HTC or other here to recomend?
Many thanks in advance.
Where to buy?
I want to know also.... where can I buy a Diamond Touch in the USA?
Well Texasaggie1, you have 5 places that cells this phone and many others.
I bought mine off ebay. I stay in mississippi. Im using tmobile which uses 1900 gsm. I havent had any issues with calls. It picks up better than my tilt was in some places.
TD in USA
I got mine from California, but cant recall just after they came out. I did some whats called....googling... and found two places that will sell USA 850 gsm phones in July and August if you want to wait for a 850 TD. Personally i will buy a USA 850 TDA when they come out and will probably sell my triband. I guess I got one of the GREY so called phones. However it works like a charm with just the usual issues that everyone has, however I really like it. I have two places that will be selling the USA 850 phones so far.
http://www.htcphonestore.com/product.asp?itemMDL=HTC_DIAMOND_US
www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=23369
http://www.expansys-usa.com/h.aspx
Try that !
Just curious as to why some Diamonds are referred to as 'grey'?
`cause they are "illegal" = grey imports
aragornol said:
`cause they are "illegal" = grey imports
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WRONG!!!!! they are not illegal. When they talk about grey imports...it just means that the product was destined for another part of the world but somehow some retailers managed to get it for their region ie alot fo the grey units in the UK were for the Asian market. Only problem is that having a grey unit means you wont get any support from HTC uk...you would need to register it on the Asian site of HTC and also for any warranty repairs you would need to send it back to them in Asia. Although places like Expansys have said they would look after warranty repairs etc themselves.
Oh ok cool Haha. I thought they meant grey as in the colour of the actual diamond. 'Cause mine is imported and the area around the LCD and the hardware keys look slightly grey and I thought there was actual 'black' versions. I would love to have a complete black looking version. Is the O2 version completely black or does it have that grey kind of look as well around the LCD and the hardware buttons? I wonder if I'd be able to switch the housing later on.

HTC Kaiser 140

I spotted this on PDADb
http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1387
It mentions a new KAISER 140 model. Anyone knows of it? I didn't find another mention.
UPDATE: It seems that it supports "UMTS1700", unlike the other models?
You can see a comparison table here:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=1387&id2=733
I think it is the Emonster model that people have previously mentioned.
Not much difference really.
This Kaiser should work on either AT&T or T-Mobile in the US. It should work in Europe as well sporting all those data bands.
I want one.
Do any AT&T insiders know if the current Tilt will be upgraded to this version of the Kaiser? It's nice to see that this new version is supporting UMTS1700 More bands, the better. It's too bad the Diamond Pro isn't supporting as many UMTS bands as the Kaiser or Hermes
Why would AT&T want to have a phone that supports a Frequency Band it doesn't use?
rfarnell said:
You can see a comparison table here:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=1387&id2=733
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PDAdb still says that the Kaiser has a transflective screen. Anyone tried to use your GPS outdoors in bright sunlight?

U.S. 3G HTC Diamond User's Only!!!

I think this will be a good idea to start a thread for us U.S. 3G HTC Touch Diamond owners so we can help each other with good tip's on how to make our U.S. Diamonds work better.
O.K. Now let's start by posting what ROM,COOKED ROM,& RADIO'S your using,and how they are working on your phone's.
I have the Unlocked U.S. 3G GSM Model
OOP'S By the way i forgot to mention i currently have the stock ROM right now.
umm...Diamond hardware is all the same...all roms that are on the euro diamond will work on the US, no performances changes...only thing that would matter is radio...
I guess i just want to make sure which stuff work's good on our phone's.
Missing front camera...
I just got my diamond and I noticed its missing the front vga camera. Are all the US version missing the front camera? I have the one that is compatible with AT&T.
All US models lack the front vga camera, Sprint or AT&T.

HTC Diamond World or US? Need Help ASAP!

Right now I have a choice between original HTC Diamond or the US version but I am not sure which one to pick. Can anyone please shed some light on this? Thank you in advance!
it would help if you were to mention where you live (US vs. Europe) and travel to, and other things factoring into your decision. if you're in the US (e.g., live here) go with the US version because it has the correct 3G radio; high-speed internet access on your phone AND 850 band which provides better signal..
Sorry, I live in US and on T-Mobile network.
Main difference between the EU and US models lies in the 3G/HSDPA data connections. While serious doubts/uncertainties on the use of EU model for 3G on T-Mobile (only 26 cities in the US so far) have been raised (details can be found in this thread), the US model will allow you to use the 3G/HSDPA data connection should you decide to switch to AT&T in the future. Second, the EU model has a front camera for video conferencing, but I was told neither T-Mobile nor AT&T would make this option available to their phone customers at this time. There are software available through Wifi for video conferencing as I learned from this thread, and you would need the EU model to do it if it works (I haven't tried). Google Maps, third, is not installed in the EU model, but there is a CAB file to be downloaded from this thread or the google website. Price wise, at last, the US model is a little cheaper than the EU model by $10-$20 USD (may due to the lack of the front camera?). There have been reports in this thread about yellow/green/wash-out background in the US model. This may be something you want to check closely if you want to consider the US model.
I read some other thread here which points out that the Euro version has the yellow spots and yellow tint problem, not the US version.
tzour said:
Main difference between the EU and US models lies in the 3G/HSDPA data connections. While serious doubts/uncertainties on the use of EU model for 3G on T-Mobile (only 26 cities in the US so far) have been raised (details can be found in this thread), the US model will allow you to use the 3G/HSDPA data connection should you decide to switch to AT&T in the future. Second, the EU model has a front camera for video conferencing, but I was told neither T-Mobile nor AT&T would make this option available to their phone customers at this time. There are software available through Wifi for video conferencing as I learned from this thread, and you would need the EU model to do it if it works (I haven't tried). Google Maps, third, is not installed in the EU model, but there is a CAB file to be downloaded from this thread or the google website. Price wise, at last, the US model is a little cheaper than the EU model by $10-$20 USD (may due to the lack of the front camera?). There have been reports in this thread about yellow/green/wash-out background in the US model. This may be something you want to check closely if you want to consider the US model.
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good clarification on the 3G network; T-Mobile uses, I believe, the 1700 3G band in the US and att uses the 850/1900 3G band. also, if you weren't aware, the US version of the Diamond is available at Best Buy Mobile, typically located in Best Buy stoes.
datzent83 said:
I read some other thread here which points out that the Euro version has the yellow spots and yellow tint problem, not the US version.
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Then probably yellow tints/stripes are found for both models:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426319&page=10, which is for the US 3G Diamond.. sigh
@cortez.i: Thank you for confirming the complicated 3G issues
The US version is also more easily returned and exchanged by just going into a Best Buy and it will be better covered under the warranty from HTC. HTC is not pleased that companies like Expansys sell Euro HTC phones to customers in the US and says it won't fully cover those phones. You can't use either model on 3G on T-Mobile USA, so for you the main difference would be the warranty.

X1a or X1i...how to tell?

i updated the phone with a few diff roms, but i have no idea which one the actual phone is from start?
As I was told by SE a long while ago, the "i" stands for International, I am guessing the "a" might stand for America? Since no one here in the UK has the X1a, but after all, X1, X1i, X1a should all be the same on the nutshell. If ever in doubt, e-mail SE directly on their website, the guys do get back to you withing a couple of days.
Look at the sticker under the battery. It'll say which one it is.
it just says X1
Go to :
Setting/Sytem/Device Information/Identity
This screen should tell you, Model, platform and IMEI#
hth,
Stuart
yea but i have the TouchIT 3.0 rom installed
elite-fusion said:
yea but i have the TouchIT 3.0 rom installed
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As of now, the black ones are X1i, and the silver, X1a. Tough it's going to change in the near future, if not already. Another way to find out, is trying to record a video with the camera. If the resulting video is VERY slow (8-10fps) then you have a X1a.
creiz said:
As of now, the black ones are X1i, and the silver, X1a.
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False. Black X1a is being sold in latinamerica.
creiz said:
If the resulting video is VERY slow (8-10fps) then you have a X1a.
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True. And a good point should I say.
Record some 10 secs of video and then use TCPMP to check how many FPS you filmed. I tested both the X1a and X1i and TCPMP showed 7-10 FPS for X1a and 20-24 FPS for X1i
I have owned both X1i and x1A. X1A is clearly indicated in the sticker behind the battery AND on the box.
creiz said:
As of now, the black ones are X1i, and the silver, X1a.
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Also false Silver X1i are being sold in the UK.
I have a silver X1i from T-Mobile Germany.......
x1i - o2 - uk (silver)
Oh, my bad then, guys. Thank you for clarifying.
Hi guys, I'm a Necromancer.
I'm looking to buy an Xperia X1a, was just wondering how to tell from ebay sellers if they're selling the X1a or X1i just from looking at the pictures. I've tried emailing them but so far none fo them know, they just say things like "Its an Xperia X1".
If the phone comes with an American charger, is it safe to assume it's the X1a version of the phone ?
Also, what do you guys think would be a fair price for a fairly used X1 these days ?
I have better phones already, I even had an X1 before but sold It, I just wanna have one and keep it. Though I'm having a hard time trying to justify buying one seeing that LG Expo is going for pretty much the same price and its like, a LOT better than the X1.
elite-fusion said:
it just says X1
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That's an X1i
there is something different between I oR A? i have ever thought they are same!
XtriFe said:
Hi guys, I'm a Necromancer.
I'm looking to buy an Xperia X1a, was just wondering how to tell from ebay sellers if they're selling the X1a or X1i just from looking at the pictures. I've tried emailing them but so far none fo them know, they just say things like "Its an Xperia X1".
If the phone comes with an American charger, is it safe to assume it's the X1a version of the phone ?
Also, what do you guys think would be a fair price for a fairly used X1 these days ?
I have better phones already, I even had an X1 before but sold It, I just wanna have one and keep it. Though I'm having a hard time trying to justify buying one seeing that LG Expo is going for pretty much the same price and its like, a LOT better than the X1.
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No I don't think that the charger is a good way to go. I'll prob be selling my X1a with all original accessories and box soon. So let me know if you are still looking.
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chinese Kung Fu said:
there is something different between I oR A? i have ever thought they are same!
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X1a uses 3G bands that work with certain carriers in North and South America
X1i uses 3G bands that work in Europe
X1a uses 3G bands that work with certain carriers in North and South America
X1i uses 3G bands that work in Europe and North America
The X1i has a front facing camera for video call .
gtrab said:
False. Black X1a is being sold in latinamerica.
True. And a good point should I say.
Record some 10 secs of video and then use TCPMP to check how many FPS you filmed. I tested both the X1a and X1i and TCPMP showed 7-10 FPS for X1a and 20-24 FPS for X1i
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you are wrong about the fps
its actually 24 fps for x1a and 30 fps for x1i
Viper89 said:
X1a uses 3G bands that work with certain carriers in North and South America
X1i uses 3G bands that work in Europe and North America
The X1i has a front facing camera for video call .
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That's not correct, both the X1a and X1i have front facing cameras for video call. Its just the bands, the sticker beneath the battery, and the camera's video quality that are different.

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