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USA Version - Official Waiting Thread

This thread will be for anyone who has specific info on the release of the USA version of the Diamond (DIAM200) with US 3G bands.
I'll start... so far this is all I've seen. It's a start, but it's from May 9th so who knows what's changed by now, and a price range would be nice.
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/7344.html
If you know anything... post it here!

I have heard that it might not be till August/Sept before the USA version is released...i cant remember the site where i read it from but the person did say it could be end of summer before the American version is released.

I have the Diamond now..pending some performance fixes, I will be grabbing the US model when its released!

Its coming in July.... Early July... mobilecityonline just got back to me with this info and they will have it! They will also get the touch pro one month after the euro version comes out.... Not too bad.

Raspster said:
Its coming in July.... Early July... mobilecityonline just got back to me with this info and they will have it! They will also get the touch pro one month after the euro version comes out.... Not too bad.
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yes they told me the same thing.....i hope it turns out to be true.

This is one of the things that bothers me about the Diamond. Here in Brazil HSDPA bands are 850 and 2100 MHz, so we will probably need a specific model.

Did they happen to say what US bands will be on it? ATT or Tmobile? Contract is up in August and replacing my wing with a touch pro one way or another

wshader said:
Did they happen to say what US bands will be on it? ATT or Tmobile? Contract is up in August and replacing my wing with a touch pro one way or another
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99.9% chance it'll be ATT USA Bands (850+1900) like every other HTC NA model out there...who knows though, maybe they'll throw the 1700 on there for ****s and giggles but I doubt it!

Has anyone tested the UK model to see if it actually has 850 on it and working? It wouldn't be the first time...
Just curious.
-Mc

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Has anyone tested the UK model to see if it actually has 850 on it and working? It wouldn't be the first time...
Just curious.
-Mc
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If i recall correctly, someone did check and it doesnt come with the 850 band on it...this is the asian version though. The proper UK models havent been released yet in the UK...next week is what they are saying.
If you have bought a diamond recently from Expansys or ebay, then its not a UK spec model but a grey import from Hong Kong ie its an asian unit.

I hope this includes the Raphael as well.

The GMS bands of the phone work fine in the us?
It only supports the 1900 band, right? Is there complete coverage in the US?

just got an update from mobilecity now us version expected sept.......this blows i was really looking forward to getting this phone ....and i know about it working with tmobile but i need my hsdpa speeds!
damn im pissed

Jorlin said:
The GMS bands of the phone work fine in the us?
It only supports the 1900 band, right? Is there complete coverage in the US?
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ATT you will have problems with this phone as much of their network, including NYC, is only 850mhz. Tmobile USA however is 100% 1900 w/ Full EDGE so you should get a good experience with this phone on Tmo!

martyotaku said:
just got an update from mobilecity now us version expected sept.......this blows i was really looking forward to getting this phone ....and i know about it working with tmobile but i need my hsdpa speeds!
damn im pissed
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What a damn letdown.

I work for tmobile and i have confirmed that the diamond will be available through tmobile... but not until the 4th quarter. No exact date and thats all i could get the htc rep to spill.

t-mobile US?

yes tmobile us

4th Qtr. 2008 that sucks...
I, couldn't wait for the US version, so I ordered mine last week & it was sent from Asia. The phone works great with T-Mobile, EDGE is pretty quick & voice calls are crystal clear so far.

wbaez0320 said:
4th Qtr. 2008 that sucks...
I, couldn't wait for the US version, so I ordered mine last week & it was sent from Asia. The phone works great with T-Mobile, EDGE is pretty quick & voice calls are crystal clear so far.
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You are using T-Mobile service in the U.S.?

Where to buy in USA?

I want to buy a Diamond or a Touch Cruise because the voice call issue of the Diamond.
I looked GSMARENA and I want to ask if someone can remomend their sponsors.
In deep, I need opinions about phonesource-usa / bargainoffers / cti-miami / cechowireless / cellsholesale. Was anyone bought his HTC or other here to recomend?
Many thanks in advance.

Where to buy?
I want to know also.... where can I buy a Diamond Touch in the USA?

Well Texasaggie1, you have 5 places that cells this phone and many others.

I bought mine off ebay. I stay in mississippi. Im using tmobile which uses 1900 gsm. I havent had any issues with calls. It picks up better than my tilt was in some places.

TD in USA
I got mine from California, but cant recall just after they came out. I did some whats called....googling... and found two places that will sell USA 850 gsm phones in July and August if you want to wait for a 850 TD. Personally i will buy a USA 850 TDA when they come out and will probably sell my triband. I guess I got one of the GREY so called phones. However it works like a charm with just the usual issues that everyone has, however I really like it. I have two places that will be selling the USA 850 phones so far.
http://www.htcphonestore.com/product.asp?itemMDL=HTC_DIAMOND_US

www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=23369

http://www.expansys-usa.com/h.aspx
Try that !

Just curious as to why some Diamonds are referred to as 'grey'?

`cause they are "illegal" = grey imports

aragornol said:
`cause they are "illegal" = grey imports
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WRONG!!!!! they are not illegal. When they talk about grey imports...it just means that the product was destined for another part of the world but somehow some retailers managed to get it for their region ie alot fo the grey units in the UK were for the Asian market. Only problem is that having a grey unit means you wont get any support from HTC uk...you would need to register it on the Asian site of HTC and also for any warranty repairs you would need to send it back to them in Asia. Although places like Expansys have said they would look after warranty repairs etc themselves.

Oh ok cool Haha. I thought they meant grey as in the colour of the actual diamond. 'Cause mine is imported and the area around the LCD and the hardware keys look slightly grey and I thought there was actual 'black' versions. I would love to have a complete black looking version. Is the O2 version completely black or does it have that grey kind of look as well around the LCD and the hardware buttons? I wonder if I'd be able to switch the housing later on.

My Diamond has no Front camera!

What the hell????
I bought one from ebay.
rom version is ASIA WWE.
No front camera.
Why?
I didnt know there were 2 different versions.

Pictures please. Could be fake...

you bought the version without 3G

After doing a little research just now i found this...
My diamond came branded with an Airtel startup logo.
so I searched a bit and found this is a company from india.
now I am guessing the phone came from india.
although the seller did not say.
anyway.
looking on the offical HTC websites and navigating different countries you can see that most, if not all, have pictures of the actual phone with the front camera.
except for.... INDIA...
http://www.htc.com/in/product.aspx?id=48110
look on the official specs...
Camera 3.2 megapixel color camera with auto focus
it doesn't even mention the front camera as in other countries.
and the pictures don't show the front camera either.
now thats something...
why? no clue....
but beware that this can happen with you too...
I guess I will have to live frontcameraless ...

check this and the comments too:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/05/23/india-picks-up-htc-touch-diamond-3g-not-included/
apparently it has no 3g.. petroOMG is right..
and also it seems that the phone is cheaper in india becoz of this.
I was wondering if it could be a firmware lock only, but I guess the price difference answers my question...
I have modded my phone ... before noticing this..
Upgraded the Radio Version and Firmware to a cooked one..
Everything is working fine.. reception is normal..
I cannot test 3g though as my carrier doesn't support it at the moment.
oh welll.. if you gona think about it it is no big deal for me...
here in my city in brazil 3G is still being implemented and only some areas of the city has coverage with lots of dropouts... everything "beta" at the moment.
At least its not a fake...

Or just put it back on eBay, sell it on and then get the one you want?
Up to you. Depends if you can live without the front facing camera or not.
I occasionally use it so find it pretty useful but i bet most of the Diamond users out there don't bother with it.

diogodasilva said:
What the hell????
I bought one from ebay.
rom version is ASIA WWE.
No front camera.
Why?
I didnt know there were 2 different versions.
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the reason is that the phone is made for India,wich country doesn;t have a 3g network.There is no reason for secondary camera for 3g phone calls

Hello ppl....i,m putting this information in block letters because i want everyone to see......the phone makers are taking away front camera option we cant use front camerato take anymore pictures....only when we make video calls can the fron cam be use.....the same with my nokia 6600 slide......spread the word

I don't think it's a "no 3g" thing..
the US 3g doesn't have one either. I wonder if it has to do with the market instead. (regulations, licensing, etc.)

maybe in regions where video-calls are not supported, the devices are coming without front camera?

Different areas differnent Diamond
North American Version (USA) has 1350 mh battery and dont have front camera and 3G for american bands, mine is this.
Argentina version (Personal Opereator) has the same bands that the american (is ok for us), has 1350 mh BATTERY (as the north america version) and front camera.
Depends the country and the operator.
Sorry for my english
Carlos

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North American Version (USA) has 1350 mh battery and dont have front camera and 3G for american bands, mine is this.
Argentina version (Personal Opereator) has the same bands that the american (is ok for us), has 1350 mh BATTERY (as the north america version) and front camera.
Depends the country and the operator.
Sorry for my english
Carlos
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True, this version is different from Airtel, 3G support, but if this is not for video call, come in the box specifications.
The chip is not MSM7206A is MSM7201A
http://www.htc.com/us/product.aspx?id=60040
Version US
http://www.htc.com/europe/product/touchdiamond/specification.html
And this is European version.

I have one that odesnt have the front camera, does that mean that i can't get 3G coverage in areas around me that have it? I have a radio version that supports 3G but if the phone itself doesnt have 3G capability then ill send it back...

I also bought the same from ebaybut onlt for 175$ and it has no front camera, although, i'm happy to have a diamond on the price of carbon!
Why you guys are worried?
My fone is a 3G handset, and i never make a video call, so, why i afraid of not having a cheap VGA front cam?
If you guys too, never made a video call and then also reading this post!
Shame on You!!!!
Don't worry n Be happy!!!!

HTC Diamond v Sprint Diamond

I'm with T-Mobile and am thinking of upgrading from my MDA Compact lll to the MDA Compact lV. On youtube, someone is demonstrating a Sprint version of the diamond which doesn't have the bevelled back to it, it has a smooth back and is thicker than the diamond.
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=35q4g6dZdM8&feature=user
The pictures on the T-Mobile site show the same back as the sprint so it's obviously the sprint they're selling.
What are the functional differences between the two, and how much better is the MDA compact 4 from the MDA compact 3?

Has more RAM/ROM, Touch Flo works much more smoothly, no front vga camera, has bigger battery. I think that is it.

Nagrom Nniuq said:
Has more RAM/ROM, Touch Flo works much more smoothly, no front vga camera, has bigger battery. I think that is it.
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Thanks. It would help if you told me which has these things, the sprint or the non sprint?

The sprint version has those things
BUT the sprint is CDMA, and no locale of T-mobile is CDMA.

ilkhan said:
The sprint version has those things
BUT the sprint is CDMA, and no locale of T-mobile is CDMA.
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Thanks for the clarification, so the sprint is generally better than the slimmer HTC diamond is that right?
Not sure exactly what CDMA is but is this referring to 3G?
You're saying T-Mobile doesn't do 3G?

Almost all cellphone carriers are 3G. CDMA is the standard used by Sprint and Verizon (and some others), GSM is the standard used by AT&T and T-Mobile (and some others including most of the world lol).

Yes. Most of the world still uses GSM, but that doesn't make it better. GSM still uses TDMA-like technology, which severely limits it's capability. That's why you get such slow data-rates and low capacity. In fact, the newer "GSM" standards are migrating to CDMA technology (although that doesn't make it compatible with CDMA networks). I know, it's confusing.

ken830 said:
Yes. Most of the world still uses GSM, but that doesn't make it better. GSM still uses TDMA-like technology, which severely limits it's capability. That's why you get such slow data-rates and low capacity. In fact, the newer "GSM" standards are migrating to CDMA technology (although that doesn't make it compatible with CDMA networks). I know, it's confusing.
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Exactly, hopefully the rest of the world adapts to CDMA sooner rather than later. A global standard of CDMA would be nice for them and for me ;-)

Thanks. Btw, apparently the MDA Compact lV is not the sprint after all. Someone informed me that most of the carriers for some reason seem to replace the back with a smooth one. That's a pity, considering the sprint has a bigger battery life.
Does anyone know if my Artemis battery would fit into the compact lV? It's an ARTE160, 1200mAh made by Sanyo. It gives me great battery life.

Tmobile isnt selling the "sprint". T-Mobile sell the Compact IV, it is different from the Diamond by having a smooth back, different styling and is slightly lighter. There are no other differences.

T-Mobile Mda compact IV
As far as I know MDA Compact IV is exactly the same thing as HTC Diamond in terms of hardware. MDA compact IV is actually HTC Victor. (Different countries different names)
The battery is the same also, 900mAh.
The only thing people say is that there are not 192 megs of ram but 128 accessible to the system.

Actually, T-Mobile sell the HTC Victor, which is essentially the Diamond in a different case. I believe this can be purchased in Asian markets but not European ones.
I believe only O2 (in the UK) sell the Diamond (and it is the Diamond, not the Victor!) with a flat back. I know Orange sell it with the bevelled back and I 'think' Vodafone do too.

captainsensible2002 said:
Actually, T-Mobile sell the HTC Victor, which is essentially the Diamond in a different case. I believe this can be purchased in Asian markets but not European ones.
I believe only O2 (in the UK) sell the Diamond (and it is the Diamond, not the Victor!) with a flat back.
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Now I'm confused, but only a bit
If the O2 Diamond has a flat back case, and the T-Mobile Victor is 'essentially' the Diamond with a flatback case, these are exactly the same phone just different names or there is some other minor differences apart from the cases? I'd not heard of the HTC Victor and cannot find anything mentioned about it on the xda-developers page which shows names and pictures of all their models.

How do I know if I have X1i or X1a?

I got this phone and it was installed with chinese for some reason so i quickly looked for a way to get english and i got one of the R3s. Idk wut version it is all the box says is X1

At your SE X1
Start>Setings>Tab System>Device Information>Tab Identity> At Model No.
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I got this phone and it was installed with chinese for some reason so i quickly looked for a way to get english and i got one of the R3s. Idk wut version it is all the box says is X1
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doesnt that information change depending on if i use a x1a or x1i rom? like right now it says "x1i", if i installed a x1a would it say "x1a"?

allenx1 said:
doesnt that information change depending on if i use a x1a or x1i rom? like right now it says "x1i", if i installed a x1a would it say "x1a"?
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This is possibly correct. But the better method is to go into Settings, System, Device Information. Select the Hardware tab. Beside the first entry, CPU, you'll see one of two things:
"QUALCOMM(R) 7200A" means you've got X1i
"QUALCOMM(R) 7201A" means you've got X1a
I've got the X1a running an X1i ROM, but it still shows the correct CPU identifier. This is the only difference between the devices: the CPU is nearly identical, but the 7201A was produced to obey a U.S. patent ruling in favour of Broadcomm that claims infringement by the video compression tech in the 7200A. Therefore the 7201A uses non-infringing methods that end up reducing the device's video recording rate to 24 FPS at QVGA res and 10 FPS at VGA res. HTC apparently uses the 7201A in all North American devices that would otherwise use the 7200A abroad.
The 7201A is otherwise designed to be completely compatible and interchangeable with the 7200A, which is why ROMs can be used interchangeably. They have the same Radio ROM and same band frequencies (contrary to some false reports in these and other forums) - the Xperia is a 3G "world" phone, and meaning the X1i can do 3G on Rogers and AT&T in North America, and the X1a can do 3G on European and Asian carriers.
No 3G on T-Mobile US though, because of T-Mo's stupid use of 1700 MHz.

ahh thank you benjamin looks like i have a x1i. So there is no way i can connect to 3G? sometimes i see a G instead of the E, but its only for like 5 seconds. wish t-mobile was better.