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3G Diamond for sale (Canada/US)

Hi guys,
Well, the shop that originally sold me the GSM Diamond has exchanged it to the proper 3G unlocked version.
Do not want to go through the bother with shipping back to Japan and dealing with customs. Besides I pre-ordered my Touch Pro with expansys
Thus, I have a new 3G model up for grabs. I paid 750 Canadian for it. Will let it go for 650 CDN.
Thanks.

This would be 3G on Rogers Network? Are you sure of this?
Has it been opened our used yet?

There is no network associated with this. It should be an HTC Retail version that is 3G capable hardware wise. Weather you choose to use it in a 3G network area is up to yourself.
It would be unopened but to be honest I have asked my friend to open it and make sure that it is the correct model that the shop is exchanging for me. So, in actuality it will be opened but unused. He is just going to make sure it is indeed unlocked and 3G.
The reason for this is when I orginally bought the diamond from this shop before returning to Japan they gave me the Indian GSM model, which they are not exchanging as mentioned.
I guess if it is a huge issue to anyone I can ask him not to open it and go by the specs on the box. Buyers choice. But, I need to know as the new one should be in by Thursday.
thx

Careful potential buyers, there is no Diamond, with any ROM, that currently supports North American 3G bands... Only 900/2100mhz. Does not have the hardware necessary to do so.

Thanks for that. Perhaps the best thing is for me to ship it back to Japan and sell here. Not sure if this can be included in any future radio/rom update/upgrade at this point.
But it is the 3G version but as mentioned about supports 1900/2100 frequencies.
Currently:
HSDPA/WCDMA:
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Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
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Up to 384 kbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds

Yeah, didn't wanna be a jerk and get you out of a sale, but people should know what they're buying. I'd ship it back to Japan if I were you, that's probably your best bet (unless someone would rather have EDGE on their Diamond now than 3G on it in a few months).

np,
I would just recommend that anyone thinking about it read the specs on the HTC site for the current model.
thx

I'm gonna keep this thread alive for the next 3 days, then it will be closed and cleaned up!

My Diamond has no Front camera!

What the hell????
I bought one from ebay.
rom version is ASIA WWE.
No front camera.
Why?
I didnt know there were 2 different versions.

Pictures please. Could be fake...

you bought the version without 3G

After doing a little research just now i found this...
My diamond came branded with an Airtel startup logo.
so I searched a bit and found this is a company from india.
now I am guessing the phone came from india.
although the seller did not say.
anyway.
looking on the offical HTC websites and navigating different countries you can see that most, if not all, have pictures of the actual phone with the front camera.
except for.... INDIA...
http://www.htc.com/in/product.aspx?id=48110
look on the official specs...
Camera 3.2 megapixel color camera with auto focus
it doesn't even mention the front camera as in other countries.
and the pictures don't show the front camera either.
now thats something...
why? no clue....
but beware that this can happen with you too...
I guess I will have to live frontcameraless ...

check this and the comments too:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/05/23/india-picks-up-htc-touch-diamond-3g-not-included/
apparently it has no 3g.. petroOMG is right..
and also it seems that the phone is cheaper in india becoz of this.
I was wondering if it could be a firmware lock only, but I guess the price difference answers my question...
I have modded my phone ... before noticing this..
Upgraded the Radio Version and Firmware to a cooked one..
Everything is working fine.. reception is normal..
I cannot test 3g though as my carrier doesn't support it at the moment.
oh welll.. if you gona think about it it is no big deal for me...
here in my city in brazil 3G is still being implemented and only some areas of the city has coverage with lots of dropouts... everything "beta" at the moment.
At least its not a fake...

Or just put it back on eBay, sell it on and then get the one you want?
Up to you. Depends if you can live without the front facing camera or not.
I occasionally use it so find it pretty useful but i bet most of the Diamond users out there don't bother with it.

diogodasilva said:
What the hell????
I bought one from ebay.
rom version is ASIA WWE.
No front camera.
Why?
I didnt know there were 2 different versions.
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the reason is that the phone is made for India,wich country doesn;t have a 3g network.There is no reason for secondary camera for 3g phone calls

Hello ppl....i,m putting this information in block letters because i want everyone to see......the phone makers are taking away front camera option we cant use front camerato take anymore pictures....only when we make video calls can the fron cam be use.....the same with my nokia 6600 slide......spread the word

I don't think it's a "no 3g" thing..
the US 3g doesn't have one either. I wonder if it has to do with the market instead. (regulations, licensing, etc.)

maybe in regions where video-calls are not supported, the devices are coming without front camera?

Different areas differnent Diamond
North American Version (USA) has 1350 mh battery and dont have front camera and 3G for american bands, mine is this.
Argentina version (Personal Opereator) has the same bands that the american (is ok for us), has 1350 mh BATTERY (as the north america version) and front camera.
Depends the country and the operator.
Sorry for my english
Carlos

calito said:
North American Version (USA) has 1350 mh battery and dont have front camera and 3G for american bands, mine is this.
Argentina version (Personal Opereator) has the same bands that the american (is ok for us), has 1350 mh BATTERY (as the north america version) and front camera.
Depends the country and the operator.
Sorry for my english
Carlos
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True, this version is different from Airtel, 3G support, but if this is not for video call, come in the box specifications.
The chip is not MSM7206A is MSM7201A
http://www.htc.com/us/product.aspx?id=60040
Version US
http://www.htc.com/europe/product/touchdiamond/specification.html
And this is European version.

I have one that odesnt have the front camera, does that mean that i can't get 3G coverage in areas around me that have it? I have a radio version that supports 3G but if the phone itself doesnt have 3G capability then ill send it back...

I also bought the same from ebaybut onlt for 175$ and it has no front camera, although, i'm happy to have a diamond on the price of carbon!
Why you guys are worried?
My fone is a 3G handset, and i never make a video call, so, why i afraid of not having a cheap VGA front cam?
If you guys too, never made a video call and then also reading this post!
Shame on You!!!!
Don't worry n Be happy!!!!

Deciding between T-Mobile, AT&T, & International Unlocked Note 4

Which variant of the Note 4 should I buy? I live in the states, but don't use the LTE coverage, but would be great to future-proof my device. I travel around the globe at times. I would rather have the warranty in the states than having a warranty belonging to some other country that I never travel to. If I had to go between the T-Mobile and AT&T version (obviously Unlocking these devices will incur an additional fee), which one should I buy? What about the International version? What are your thoughts. Please let me know. Thank you.

arjun90 said:
Which variant of the Note 4 should I buy? I live in the states, but don't use the LTE coverage, but would be great to future-proof my device. I travel around the globe at times. I would rather have the warranty in the states than having a warranty belonging to some other country that I never travel to. If I had to go between the T-Mobile and AT&T version (obviously Unlocking these devices will incur an additional fee), which one should I buy? What about the International version? What are your thoughts. Please let me know. Thank you.
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T-Mobile give you free Wifi calling, international texts and data, $.20 international calls if you can't get on Wifi, plus free texts and voicemail in the air through Go-Go. That's why I'm getting it.

Thanks for the information. I too am considering T-mobile and just signed up for their test-drive phone.
JimSmith94 said:
T-Mobile give you free Wifi calling, international texts and data, $.20 international calls if you can't get on Wifi, plus free texts and voicemail in the air through Go-Go. That's why I'm getting it.
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arjun90 said:
Which variant of the Note 4 should I buy? I live in the states, but don't use the LTE coverage, but would be great to future-proof my device. I travel around the globe at times. I would rather have the warranty in the states than having a warranty belonging to some other country that I never travel to. If I had to go between the T-Mobile and AT&T version (obviously Unlocking these devices will incur an additional fee), which one should I buy? What about the International version? What are your thoughts. Please let me know. Thank you.
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The previous answers seem to be talking about using a T-Mobile Note 4 and getting T-Mobile service. Your question's about which device would be the most versatile used both in the U.S. and overseas. Definitely go with international version. Samsung's UK site shows it supports both AT&T and T-Mobile's LTE bands as well as additional international bands neither of the U.S. phones support.
While you may be able to use a AT&T Note 4 on T-Mobile and vice versa their radios are optimized for the networks they are designed to be used on. I'm in an AT&T VoLTE market and can use it on my Note 3. A friend here using a T-Mobile N3 on AT&T can't using the same APN.
My current Note 3 is my first carrier phone out of a half dozen over four years so I have a lot of Samsung international device experience. I've only used them on AT&T and have no interest in T-Mobile as a carrier. They've performed fine on AT&T. But none of them got the same level of connectivity and data speeds as friends with AT&T phones when tested from the exact same locations. In the year I've had my AT&T Note 3 I've never had a network connectivity problem. With my international phones they'd occasionally lose connectivity and I'd have to reboot them to get them back on the network. Like when turning them on when landing at destination after a flight; they couldn't find the network on their own when moving from one AT&T network design (they're different by region through acquisition) to another.
I'm typing this on an international 3G N10.1-14. 90+% of the time I have no network issues and it works brilliantly overseas. Going with an international device is always safer than a carrier device because Samsung's international radios are generic. Every carrier's device has its radio optimized for their specific network. If you read the forums where people are using T-Mobile (and even Canadian phones) on AT&T it's not all peaches and cream. My recommendation is to go with an EU international Note 4 because of its generic support for a ton of global bands. I'd avoid Asian phones because their bands are very different as is the pre-installed s/w.
Good luck.

Thanks for a very careful and thorough explanation. Are there any ebay sellers selling the UK Note 4 version? How should I go about adding warranty? Squaretrade?
BarryH_GEG said:
The previous answers seem to be talking about using a T-Mobile Note 4 and getting T-Mobile service. Your question's about which device would be the most versatile used both in the U.S. and overseas. Definitely go with international version. Samsung's UK site shows it supports both AT&T and T-Mobile's LTE bands as well as additional international bands neither of the U.S. phones support.
While you may be able to use a AT&T Note 4 on T-Mobile and vice versa their radios are optimized for the networks they are designed to be used on. I'm in an AT&T VoLTE market and can use it on my Note 3. A friend here using a T-Mobile N3 on AT&T can't using the same APN.
My current Note 3 is my first carrier phone out of a half dozen over four years so I have a lot of Samsung international device experience. I've only used them on AT&T and have no interest in T-Mobile as a carrier. They've performed fine on AT&T. But none of them got the same level of connectivity and data speeds as friends with AT&T phones when tested from the exact same locations. In the year I've had my AT&T Note 3 I've never had a network connectivity problem. With my international phones they'd occasionally lose connectivity and I'd have to reboot them to get them back on the network. Like when turning them on when landing at destination after a flight; they couldn't find the network on their own when moving from one AT&T network design (they're different by region through acquisition) to another.
I'm typing this on an international 3G N10.1-14. 90+% of the time I have no network issues and it works brilliantly overseas. Going with an international device is always safer than a carrier device because Samsung's international radios are generic. Every carrier's device has its radio optimized for their specific network. If you read the forums where people are using T-Mobile (and even Canadian phones) on AT&T it's not all peaches and cream. My recommendation is to go with an EU international Note 4 because of its generic support for a ton of global bands. I'd avoid Asian phones because their bands are very different as is the pre-installed s/w.
Good luck.
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arjun90 said:
Are there any ebay sellers selling the UK Note 4 version? How should I go about adding warranty? Squaretrade?
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I'd stay away from eBay. Most LTE Samsung devices sold there are Asian. The dollar's exceptionally strong right now. I'd buy it from handtec.co.uk if I were you. In fact, if I wasn't getting the Note 4 for free because I'm on Next I'd buy my Note 4 from Handtec too. You can even get it in bronze and be the first on your block. Converted from GBP it's currently $806 including two-day FedEx shipping; that's cheaper than AT&T's $826 without tax. Because you're buying a UK phone in the UK Samsung's 24 month UK warranty is intact. You'll have to pay to send it there if it needs service but it's better than nothing. I had a UK SGS2 that had a cracked bezel and Samsung UK was very accommodating in repairing it. I'd get SquareTrade anyway and they'll cover an imported UK phone. The UK is also one of the first region's to receive updates so that's a plus too.

Seems like Clove is able to take off the region-lock whereas Handtec is unable to. Do the UK LTE Note 4's support T-Mobile's Band 12. Seems like I just want as many bands as possible as you never know when you want to switch to another US Carrier.

I'm currently using an MVNO (PureTalk) that relies on AT&T's network; currently using an unlocked T-Mobile Note 2 in Mint Condition, soon to be sold.
I do see how the European Model N910F is more versatile and at the same time, most expensive if purchased in the states (~$1300) compared to the Korean LTE Variants and Hong Kong Exynos (910U) Variant. The T-Mobile units are available online for $~750.
JimSmith94 said:
T-Mobile give you free Wifi calling, international texts and data, $.20 international calls if you can't get on Wifi, plus free texts and voicemail in the air through Go-Go. That's why I'm getting it.
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Just to confirm, does Samsung consider the N910F to be an international unlocked Note 4?
I can't seem to tell what is the official International Unlocked version
http://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-note-4

Would you go for the 910'F' or 910'C'?

[SOLVED!] Very dissapointed with LTE Samsung Phablets, any opinions please?

NOT DISSAPOINTED ANYMORE BOUGHT A SM-T715Y AND EVERYTING WORK FINE NOW, THANKS TO ALL
Hi, i bought this 3 Samsung Phablets
sm-t235y one year ago
sm-t705 3 months ago
sm-t715c yesterday
Im really dissapointed with this devices, all 3 devices are SUPPOSED to be LTE but none of them got LTE on US T-mobile. I understand its because of LTE bands, but im really frustrated cant get a phablet that works in LTE, its crazy, i know about businness model and LTE band for each region of world, but have no any other choice of buying this models because US version of this LTE devices has no phone capability.
H+ data seems not be as reliable as LTE, i have a Galaxy Note 4 provided by T-Mobile and LTE works really great on it! <10ms ping, better coverage, duble as fast as H+ download and uploads speed
I notice difference in Skype or Whatsapp calls the difference between LTE and H+ . Because of that i want to get a LTE working phablet.... i use a lot voip calls
sh-t715c is a very new device so there is no too much information but i have seen that sm-715 (not the sm-715c) in some pictures, seems to have proximity sensor and US LTE bands, it is true?
Any opinions will be welcome because im little lost, and dont know
*When i talk about LTE im talking not about just the LTE icon... im talking about for example... lower ping times than 40ms (on all this devices ping time is +-40ms) and (HOPE) better data service coverage with less interruptions.
Thanx in advance
NOT DISSAPOINTED ANYMORE BOUGHT A SM-T715Y AND EVERYTING WORK FINE NOW, THANKS TO ALL

What you are describing isn't Samsung's fault. Basically, it was your choice to purchase this specific model (815C). You could have purchased the T-Mobile specific model (817T) which has all of T-Mobile's LTE bands or the an unlocked AT&T model (817A) or an unlocked Canadian model (817W) which also have all of T-Mobile's bands or the international unlocked model (815N) which has T-Mobile's main LTE bands (and possibly all of them, which is what I have been trying to verify in this thread but no one has replied to it). The 815N goes for $539 on Amazon. If you are in a non-LTE band 12 area for T-Mobile then the 815N version will work just as well as the 817T, A or W versions on T-Mobile. If you are in a band 12 area then I would strongly advise to purchase the 817T, or unlocked A or W models.
In other words, the only advice anyone can give you is... if you really want good performance on T-Mobile, you need to buy a variant which supports it.

to further clarify..if you are looking for LTE AND voice calling then you should get (have got) the international version as the carriers block out the cellular voice calling (sure wifi-based skype etc always exist) at least that has been the practice all along upto the previous generation (not Samsung's fault..for that matter the Ipad mini lte does not have cellular voice calling either).

@mac231us, what is the full Samsung model number of your s2 and what is the model's FCC ID? (if it's not listed on the box or device then it should be listed under regulatory information under the about device menu under the system menu).

T815Y has LTE on ATT's network here in the states. I have one myself.
This one from this seller to be exact.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281786597546?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

ProStreetCamaro said:
T815Y has LTE on ATT's network here in the states. I have one myself.
This one from this seller to be exact.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281786597546?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
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With respect to the OP, unfortunately there is no band 12 on the Y variant.

myphone12345 said:
What you are describing isn't Samsung's fault. Basically, it was your choice to purchase this specific model (815C). You could have purchased the T-Mobile specific model (817T) which has all of T-Mobile's LTE bands or the an unlocked AT&T model (817A) or an unlocked Canadian model (817W) which also have all of T-Mobile's bands or the international unlocked model (815N) which has T-Mobile's main LTE bands (and possibly all of them, which is what I have been trying to verify in this thread but no one has replied to it). The 815N goes for $539 on Amazon. If you are in a non-LTE band 12 area for T-Mobile then the 815N version will work just as well as the 817T, A or W versions on T-Mobile. If you are in a band 12 area then I would strongly advise to purchase the 817T, or unlocked A or W models.
In other words, the only advice anyone can give you is... if you really want good performance on T-Mobile, you need to buy a variant which supports it.
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Hi myphone12345, i think you did not read me in deept or i have been not so clear
1-first of all, i have to say that i think that i could not use a 10 inches tab as a phone as you said... if i choose this models was because i like a phone between 7 and 8.4 max inches can fit in my pocket (they fit)... you recommend a 9.7 phone.... would have to keep phone on on hand or a bag.
2-In other hand, you recommend me to but a T-Mobile specific model (817T)... that, my friend, is not a phone... it is a tablet, it does not have speaker on front beside the front camera.... and again 9.7 inches....
3-Obviusly a tmobile device will have all of T-Mobile's LTE bands... thats my point... i want to a 7 to 8.4 phablet.... i mean a tablet with real phone capabilities, i know skype, google voice, and all voip and no... dont want that want to use a regular phone
I conclusion, in my opinion there is no samsung phablet 7 to 8.4 inches that work with all real lte bands and have real phone capabilities

mac231us said:
to further clarify..if you are looking for LTE AND voice calling then you should get (have got) the international version as the carriers block out the cellular voice calling (sure wifi-based skype etc always exist) at least that has been the practice all along upto the previous generation (not Samsung's fault..for that matter the Ipad mini lte does not have cellular voice calling either).
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dont understand friend, these are all international versions with LTE (not us LTE) and voice calling.... talking about sm-t715c specifically, i can make calls, use data service, but not real LTE speeds like as example my galaxy note 4.... all sm-t715c works great only problem is it has not LTE.... just H+.... and im talking about some "malificent" deals betwen samsung and companies like tmo att verizon... that samsung does not sell devices with US LTE because samsung obviusly has a big bussines with these carriers so samsung "help" tmo att verizon to users have to buy his devices....
but..... when a mad guy like me want a phablet, cant find one, because all samsungs tablet on tmo, att and verizon DOES NOT HAVE REAL VOICE CALL CAPABILITIES... just check all of them has not the speaker on front at side of camera...
do you understand my point? sorry if im not so clear my english is not so good

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With respect to the OP, unfortunately there is no band 12 on the Y variant.
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well, as i said above.... it sounds great... but cant fit on my pocket... looking for a 7 to 8.4 one...

ProStreetCamaro said:
T815Y has LTE on ATT's network here in the states. I have one myself.
This one from this seller to be exact.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281786597546?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
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well, as i said above.... it sounds great... but cant fit on my pocket... looking for a 7 to 8.4 one...

myphone12345 said:
@mac231us, what is the full Samsung model number of your s2 and what is the model's FCC ID? (if it's not listed on the box or device then it should be listed under regulatory information under the about device menu under the system menu).
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check on attached files.... thanx

wallyhenderson said:
dont understand friend, these are all international versions with LTE (not us LTE) and voice calling.... talking about sm-t715c specifically, i can make calls, use data service, but not real LTE speeds like as example my galaxy note 4.... all sm-t715c works great only problem is it has not LTE.... just H+.... and im talking about some "malificent" deals betwen samsung and companies like tmo att verizon... that samsung does not sell devices with US LTE because samsung obviusly has a big bussines with these carriers so samsung "help" tmo att verizon to users have to buy his devices....
but..... when a mad guy like me want a phablet, cant find one, because all samsungs tablet on tmo, att and verizon DOES NOT HAVE REAL VOICE CALL CAPABILITIES... just check all of them has not the speaker on front at side of camera...
do you understand my point? sorry if im not so clear my english is not so good
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I am confused too now...lol (sorry)
anyway...this much I know
my t715 (not C, Y etc) just T715 gets LTE on ATT (I have checked and let alone all the checking from all my experience using the tab S T805, Tab pro T325, Huawei Honor mediapad x2 gem-703, sharp sh-06f, Tab 4 7.0 sm-t235, oppo find 5, xperia ultraz, Chinese 7 inch mediatek-based phablet, and other NON-U.S carrier-branded devices (yes device junkie), this is the only device that I have used-again talking from among the non-u.s carrier-branded devices that I have used...this is the only device aside from oppo find 5 and the ultra z that actually does LTE (from checks AND how it FEELS speed-wise)...others all managed like H+
bands are LTE (B1)2100/(B3)1800/(B7)2600/(B8)900/(B28)700 MHz
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Would this be the Chinese version of the t715 (hence the C...sorry if late to the discussion here or missed something already communicated)
https://translate.google.com/transl...UMqaxD5pZefME%2BH%2BnKk9SbX97MmDB&prev=search
Link above from TENAA (China equivalent of the U.S. FCC)
says Network frequency 900MHz, 1800MHz, 2GHz, Band 38, Band 39, Band 40, Band 41 (2555-2575 MHZ, 2575-2635 MHZ, 2635-2655 MHZ), Band 1, Band 3,1.9GHz, I
if so, (maybe?) it could explain the difference in bands/speeds versus the other international t715?
I see the C version is being sold on Amazon here in the U.S

@walleyhenderson, what @Mac231 and I are trying to say is that if you got the SM-T715Y or SM-T715N instead of the SM-T715C then you would have had both LTE and voice calling in most places with T-Mobile (and all places with AT&T).
What you wouldn't have had is band 12 with T-Mobile but that is not T-Mobile's main LTE band and it may not even be deployed where you are anyway.

myphone12345 said:
@walleyhenderson, what @Mac231 and I are trying to say is that if you got the SM-T715Y or SM-T715N instead of the SM-T715C then you would have had both LTE and voice calling in most places with T-Mobile (and all places with AT&T).
What you wouldn't have had is band 12 with T-Mobile but that is not T-Mobile's main LTE band and it may not even be deployed where you are anyway.
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Ohhh i understand now... thats what im looking for... but sadly... i been searching on google... and cant find where to buy SM-T715Y or SM-T715N, do you know any place to buy any of these? what do you recommend SM-T715Y or SM-T715N
thanx

Where are you located? I can sell you mine.

wallyhenderson said:
Ohhh i understand now... thats what im looking for... but sadly... i been searching on google... and cant find where to buy SM-T715Y or SM-T715N, do you know any place to buy any of these? what do you recommend SM-T715Y or SM-T715N
thanx
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You can easily find it on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-T715-Black-International/dp/B0124SAQLI

According to what I can gather, as is the same as it's predecessor the Tab S, the international version is simply called SM-T715/T815. The T715n or T715no is a Korean model.
International versions don't usually have a letter after the model number.
My Tab S is an international version and is simply called a SM-T805.
I agree it's real confusing as to which model is which.

ashyx said:
According to what I can gather, as is the same as it's predecessor the Tab S, the international version is simply called SM-T715/T815. The T715n or T715no is a Korean model.
International versions don't usually have a letter after the model number.
My Tab S is an international version and is simply called a SM-T805.
I agree it's real confusing as to which model is which.
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They all usually do have letters after the model name, it's just that it isn't always listed everywhere. Also, "N" is just the first letter. Meaning, that the full model number is actually SM-T715NZKEDBT for the black one and SM-T715NZWEDBT for the white one. Those are the variants of the Tab S2 8" LTE tablet that Samsung officially sells in Germany for example. Not sure where the SM-T715YXXXXX model is officially destined to by Samsung (my guess would be South America).

myphone12345 said:
They all usually do have letters after the model name, it's just that it isn't always listed everywhere. Also, "N" is just the first letter. Meaning, that the full model number is actually SM-T715NZKEDBT for the black one and SM-T715NZWEDBT for the white one. Those are the variants of the Tab S2 8" LTE tablet that Samsung officially sells in Germany for example. Not sure where the SM-T715YXXXXX model is officially destined to by Samsung (my guess would be South America).
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I'm gonna see if I can find the boxes to my tab s and tab a to see if I can confirm this.
Even Samsung themselves don't add the n to any of their international firmwares or source code, however they do for the rest.
The only official firmware with the n variable is Korean.

ashyx said:
I'm gonna see if I can find the boxes to my tab s and tab a to see if I can confirm this.
Even Samsung themselves don't add the n to any of their international firmwares or source code, however they do for the rest.
The only official firmware with the n variable is Korean.
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The full Samsung model number of the black LTE 8" S2 Korean variant is SM-T715NZKEKOO. It supports the same bands as the European variant I mentioned above.

Extremely confused about band compatibility and updates

I've browsed through the forum, as well as in the web and could not find the answers to my question.
I've been seeing throughout (Nubia's website, gsmarena, ebay listings) that different "versions" of the device are compatible with different bands.
With that said, I haven't seen different versions of the device around and it's not clear to me if there even are two versions.
Is it the case that whether you flash the NA v103 vs the EU v203 ROM, there'll be different band compatibility?
Has anyone used the device in the US? Is the reception good? (I'm on Metropcs)
If I buy it from this link (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nubia-Z20-...hash=item2cf91a8a75:m:msBr-AqyOKf-4kOGzQXk8Og), would I get the NA version?
Also, how is the device with security updates?

I use the z20 on AT&T. Cell signal is good, wifi signal is very strong.
As far as security updates, not a single one. So if that's important to u, I'd skip it.

I have the US version on Tmobile, and it works fine (purchased from Nubia directly). I can't respond about some offering on ebay.

Harris.S.Newman said:
I have the US version on Tmobile, and it works fine (purchased from Nubia directly). I can't respond about some offering on ebay.
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I highly doubt it but does it support Wi-Fi calling and HD Voice?

I don't know why you doubt it but it does support wifi calling, I am not sure if it will support HD.