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we all know that for wizard we got 2 type of chips here ( G3 and G4 ). For me i really don't know which is better or even which one is newest. why it got 2 types here? and also what the different between two of them...
Someone maybe can tell me or for others that dont know about it....
nicholas99 said:
we all know that for wizard we got 2 type of chips here ( G3 and G4 ). For me i really don't know which is better or even which one is newest. why it got 2 types here? and also what the different between two of them...
Someone maybe can tell me or for others that dont know about it....
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G3 and G4 are the chipset used in the Wizard.
G3 Wizards uses a bootloader (IPL/SPL) like 2.xx
G4 Wizards uses a bootloader (IPL/SPL) like 2.xx.0001
Do NOT try to flash a G3 rom on a G4 device and the other way around, you'll wreck your bootloader and will BRICK your Wizard after the 1st boot.
I preffer a G3 Wizard myself, because G3 Wizards can be CID unlocked (if they have an 1.xx IPL/SPL), G4 Wizards cannot be CID unlocked yet...
Molski
is it possible ? will it brik the ppc ?? why there is 2 versions of cooked rom G3 and G4 ? 2 many quetions i know !! sorry but if its possible i want 2 understand
regards
excuse my poor english !
hica said:
is it possible ? will it brik the ppc ?? why there is 2 versions of cooked rom G3 and G4 ? 2 many quetions i know !! sorry but if its possible i want 2 understand
regards
excuse my poor english !
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I read your previous posts, where you almost bricked your phone on both occasions, if this is your next trial.........
Read trough all the last posts concerning G4, like search: G4.
Or maybe it's simpler to just drop your phone
answer to your questions: no, yes, because there are G3 and G4 phone's, why.
search: G4 = no result ??? don't understand why ????? you can try yourself !
i've broked my wizard before and had a big chance because iv got annother one from the provider but the new one is a G3 not a G4 as the first
i know it because i haven't the 0001 after IPL 2.21 / SPL 2.21 !
so far i know the G4 cooked ROMs are IPL / SPL free! so we can use them with G3 and G4 wizard. i'm i wrong ?
hica said:
search: G4 = no result ??? don't understand why ????? you can try yourself !
i've broked my wizard before and had a big chance because iv got annother one from the provider but the new one is a G3 not a G4 as the first
i know it because i haven't the 0001 after IPL 2.21 / SPL 2.21 !
so far i know the G4 cooked ROMs are IPL / SPL free! so we can use them with G3 and G4 wizard. i'm i wrong ?
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To be honest, I don't know. But if you have a G3, why you want to put there a G4 ROM.......
I think the search-word musst have at least 4 letters.
hica said:
search: G4 = no result ??? don't understand why ????? you can try yourself !
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You got me there, it's true, tried it: no results.
So if the administrator reads this,.... Why is this not functioning ?
Vilem said:
To be honest, I don't know. But if you have a G3, why you want to put there a G4 ROM.......
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just to be sure there will be no danger for my phone because if the G4 ROM is IPL SPL free this will be more safe for my wizard i'm i wrong ?
and I realy want to understand !!!
ps: i have to upgrade it because it's german ROM and i don't like it, i need English or French ROM
As long as your phone is CID unlocked G3 device then it should be fine. I did flash mine with G4 ROM Risidoro cooked rom and everything runs smoothly.
Except i cannot find the extended_rom in the total commander, i dont know if this is becoz im flashing the G4 Rom onto the G3 device or not.
anyways from the info i got from this site is that, if your phone CID unlocked and G3 chip then you should be free to use any ROMS you want.
I can't say if my phone is CID unlocked or not ? how 2 know ??? before when i had the G4 Wizard i tried with a French rom 2.17 but it coudn't install untill i used nb2nbf to cook it, then i use the same thing with all roms i tried all was Ok till i brok it by downgrading to 1.10 rom i didn't konw that G4 or G3 > 2.21 can't be CID Unlocked !
now they changed my wizard with a new one but it is G3 don't konw why ??? but i have another problème the keypad is "fool " when i press
Q i have ZQ
q=zq
e=ce
i=.i
g=lg
h= h
l=lg
y=zq
c=ce
i think i will return it again but before i have to reflash it with the original ROM. i've download it. i will cook it with Tipho5 + nb2nbf to deleet the IPL & SPL just to avoid briking it again !
I did CID unlocked my G3 with 2.25 IPL/SPL from Cingular:
first, i did the sim unlock using lokiwiz3a: copy the enablerapi.cab on my device, run it, then run the .bat thing from desktop. use sim card from other provider, enter the unlock code. sim unlocked done.
second, downgrade using the custom rom, CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
then I did the CID unlock using lokiwiz2b. again copy the enablerapi.cab, run it..then run the .bat thing from desktop. done. my ipl/spl become: 1.05/2.25 if im not mistaken...anyways after that i did flash it with Molski ROM for G3 device to make the ipl/spl to 2.26.
then lastly after that i did some rom flashing using aku 3.2, molski, and lastly the risidoro one.
i know from this forum that the only know that you know that the CID is unlocked is by flashing with other ROMS (not the ROMS for G4 devices).
I think because your device is 3G all went good happy for you ! but i broke my G4 using exactly as you did, it deads after the first boot when i downgrade to downgrading to CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
so G4 chips don't accept to be downgraded ...
what do you think about the probleme i have in my keypad ?
when i press
Q i have ZQ
q=zq
e=ce
i=.i
g=lg
h= h
l=lg
y=zq
c=ce
and when i press the button 1 for the Messaging = 2 app start in the same time : Messaging and Camera
when i change the button 1 with ( eg: contact ) the 2 app are lunched contact and Camera !!!
is there any solution ? is it a hardware probleme or just a soft ?
Finly the keyboard is ok ! ! ! I oppened my wizard, Disassembled it, cleaned all contactacts and nappes, then Assembled it !
but i still want 2 know the difference between G4 & G3 cooked ROMs .. just IPL& SPL or something else ???
Ok I’m a total noob and ‘ve have already unlock my T-Mobile MDA so I can use it as a Cingular cell phone . about I know I got a G3 since my
IPL is 2.xx
Spl is 2.xx
Gsm 2.35.11
os 2.26.10.
Now my Question is what’s next? What’s that rom I’ve been reading about? howe do i know what version i have ? What is the os 2.26.10? What version should I be using? how do I REMOVE THE T-Mobile logo an stuff? I know it’s a lot of question but I figured that every one can jump in and give me some knowledge than you very much .for reading this.
ROM = firmware = Windows mobile
OS 2.26.10.2 = newest oficial firmware
Radio 2.35.11 - I think it does not exist
IPL/SPL = bootloader (it depend on the end of that number) if you have G4 (IPL/SPL ends 0001), than you can`t unlock and write unoficial (better then oficial) ROM
T-Mobile logo is easy to rewrite by any unoficial ROM or by your cooked splash screen
for simplicity...think of a ROM as the operating system and the extended ROM as the bundled software your computer comes with...
you can flash your phone with any wizard ROM you'd like...and as a noob you may not know that most ROM's are cooked without network customizations so you'll need (in your case cingular) the cingular customizations cab file (do a search)
like johnny said...most custom ROM's have all the tmobile/cingular/etc bull**** removed so you won't have to worry about it
the os 2.26.10.x is the version number of a ROM (newest official as of right now)
know this...you will void your warrenty when you unlock your phone further which you'll have to do...so first go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
and then find a ROM you like...
THX a couple more questions
Ok 1st I need to say THX to both Johnny & j3d1n4s7y For your reply I got a couple more questions if my SPl is 2.26 so I need to down grade to bring it back to 1.xx right?
What is
Rom 2.26.10.2 WWE & Radio 02.47.11 what are their purpose?
thank you in advance
Be Careful...
-tiouko-
I notice that you want to upgrade/downgrade ROMs. Be aware that there are two types of devices, G3 & G4 and you should be aware of what type of phone it is. If when you boot your phone & the IPL & SPL read 2.xx then you have a G3 phone if it reads 2.xx.001 or something like that then you have a G4. Be aware that if you use the wrong type of ROM to flash you will brick your phone - read; read; read; before you start flashing your ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435 by Doc P is a great read if you have a G3
Good Luck!!
And Btw, I believe ROM stands for "Read Only Memory" which is where you write the OS and then the applications only read from this place. It is pretty much similar to the ROM on your PC.
tiouko said:
Ok 1st I need to say THX to both Johnny & j3d1n4s7y For your reply I got a couple more questions if my SPl is 2.26 so I need to down grade to bring it back to 1.xx right?
What is
Rom 2.26.10.2 WWE & Radio 02.47.11 what are their purpose?
thank you in advance
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... and WWE = "World Wide English", the language of the ROM. FRE might be for French for example. The World Wide part means that the version is applicable accross all English Locales, as opposed to having localised English versions for Australia, the US, and the UK for example.
Yeah man thanks for the warnings I believe that my is a g3 because is 2.26 and my spl is 2.26 with out the extension. I'm currently doing my readings carefully before i do anythings major.
This is a wonderful thread.
I am a newbie and I am facing lots of problem with my ROM.
I am using Dopod838 and my phone warrenty is void.
I am thinking to upgrade the ROM since my original rom does not support A2DP.
Since my phone is unlock, whereby I can use any provider sim card and use it in my phone, do I still need to unlock my rom?
I got one las question i confirmed that my wizard is a g3 according to the ultimate guide I should downgrade if i want to run home brew rom which is what i wanr to do . I've already downloaded the button rom 1.o5 along with lockwiz o.2b my question is do I cid unlock first or do I downgrade with button 1.o5 than cidunlock second I could of swear I was suppose to cid unlock first.Please help.
tiouko said:
I got one las question i confirmed that my wizard is a g3 according to the ultimate guide I should downgrade if i want to run home brew rom which is what i wanr to do . I've already downloaded the button rom 1.o5 along with lockwiz o.2b my question is do I cid unlock first or do I downgrade with button 1.o5 than cidunlock second I could of swear I was suppose to cid unlock first.Please help.
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5th Sticky has the information you need, its title is:
SOLUTION FOUND -CID/sim UNLOCKING FOR WIZARD WITH AKU2 ROMS.
Gives you a step by step process. Basically you can't CID unlock until you downgrade to the button rom. By your post it looks like you have the tools you need. This thread will give you the instructions on how to use them and when.
Thx Buddy exactly what I wanted to know I'm going to get started I'll let you know how I did.
Success
Success, success, success Thank you guys so much for your help I did not brick my expansive device .
Ok I followed all the steps on the guide buy using button's 1.05 ROM and wait specially when it reaches 98% Than I used lokiwiz - HTC Wizard Unlocker UPDATE Version 0.2b and finally I used button's 1.05 ROM again to get my SPL down to 1.01. I got my phone both Sim Unlock & Cidunlock I guess I’m ready for the world. Yet still have more questions .
I got
IPL 1.01
SPL1.01
Gsm1.12.10.0
Os1.5.4.2
Now I need to install the best I’m using singular but I don’t care about their ROMs I need the latest of everything including extended roms , radio, you name it . Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated..
Are you listening decent_devil since you seem to be in the boat as I am?
tiouko said:
Success, success, success Thank you guys so much for your help I did not brick my expansive device .
Ok I followed all the steps on the guide buy using button's 1.05 ROM and wait specially when it reaches 98% Than I used lokiwiz - HTC Wizard Unlocker UPDATE Version 0.2b and finally I used button's 1.05 ROM again to get my SPL down to 1.01. I got my phone both Sim Unlock & Cidunlock I guess I’m ready for the world. Yet still have more questions .
I got
IPL 1.01
SPL1.01
Gsm1.12.10.0
Os1.5.4.2
Now I need to install the best I’m using singular but I don’t care about their ROMs I need the latest of everything including extended roms , radio, you name it . Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated..
Are you listening decent_devil since you seem to be in the boat as I am?
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Yes I m .. hehe! I hv lots to read.. I still got to read through all the sticky note so that I can load a new ROM to my dopod 838.
I'll probe u when I bump into problem.. hehe!
Some of the best ROMs are introduced (and downloadable) via this forum. So you can check out yourself what they include and if it fits your needs.
The latest ROMs are based on AKU 3.2/3.5, but they are still in development and can be a bit buggy.
Personally I am very satisfied using the Molski.biz 2.26.10.2 Final Edition Rom (based on AKU2.3).
skyrebel said:
Some of the best ROMs are introduced (and downloadable) via this forum. So you can check out yourself what they include and if it fits your needs.
The latest ROMs are based on AKU 3.2/3.5, but they are still in development and can be a bit buggy.
Personally I am very satisfied using the Molski.biz 2.26.10.2 Final Edition Rom (based on AKU2.3).
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thank you sky rebel i'll get right on it.
Also no problem D devil
I have a t-mobile mda....unlocked (but not by me)...how do I know if the CID is unnlocked aswell ?
bruce.wayne_ire said:
I have a t-mobile mda....unlocked (but not by me)...how do I know if the CID is unnlocked aswell ?
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Qood question I'm not sure being that I', noob but i would assume that it's not cid unlock since you have to go the extra mile to get it cid unlock . can you tell me if you are seeing network logo ie singular or t mobile on the screen is yes it's possible that' it's not cid unlock. but keek asking hopefully some one would have the right answer for you. good luck
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I have a t-mobile mda....unlocked (but not by me)...how do I know if the CID is unnlocked aswell ?
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If in doubt just CID unlock again. It doesn't hurt anything and that way you can be sure that you are unlocked.
tiouko said:
Also no problem D devil
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I have successfully upgrade my rom to Molski.biz 2.26.10.2 Final Edition Rom as well!
It solved all the bugs facing by using the default Dopod rom! Hurray!
decent_devil said:
I have successfully upgrade my rom to Molski.biz 2.26.10.2 Final Edition Rom as well!
It solved all the bugs facing by using the default Dopod rom! Hurray!
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Great man I I'm Using Molski .biz 3.o version. Now come my next challenge. wifi Have you gotten that to work yet? if yes please let me know the procedure cause i can't get that to work.
I know that the wrong thread just thought you might know. If any one read this please help.
I've currently got WM5 and want to upgrade to WM6.
I've read the ROM upgrade threads and have the latest versions already in my K-JAM.
Is it as simple now as installing WM6 or is there anything additional to do?
Thanks,
Dave
horrgakx said:
I've currently got WM5 and want to upgrade to WM6.
I've read the ROM upgrade threads and have the latest versions already in my K-JAM.
Is it as simple now as installing WM6 or is there anything additional to do?
Thanks,
Dave
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Helloo
is a G3 or G4 ?
is CID locked ?
find the answers for this questions...., you can brick your device otherwise..
Thanks for the reply. Reading the Wiki I've found out that its a G3. The rest of the versions follow according to the startup screen. Apologies, I should have posted these originally (I intended to but got distracted).
IPC 2.16
SPC 2.16
GSM 2.07.10
OS 2.16.9.1
I'm unsure about the CID.
I've found this thread though and will have a good look at it;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
Dave
I think you may want to read this one....its the one I used to SIM/CID unlock my G3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
Good luck...its not too difficult to do....its so easy "even a caveman can do it"
And then read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297762
Thanks. I've decided to leave it well alone.
Dave
Hey all,
I'm pretty new to the whole PDA world. The most I had was a Dell Axim X5 when they first came out, and all i did was play solitaire and SNES roms on it lol but now I have a Cingular 8125 G4 and all I want to do is upgrade it to WM6 and after reading through the piles of information on this site, I'm very confused on the instructions. It seems every post is different, and I don't know which to follow for fear of bricking my newly acquired phone.
Would anyone be able to help me out by directing me to a STEP BY STEP guide of how to upgrade my phone without bricking it? My IPL/SPL versions are 2.21.000 and GSM 02.25.11 and OS is 2.25.11.1.
Thank you!!!!
You are in luck, I have made a full install guide with screenshots and all the programs that you need to install a ROM, except for the ROM itself.
Here is the link= http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394218
First, is the IPL/SPL 2.21.000 or 2.21.0001,not the difference with trialling '1' at the end,if it s 2.21.000 only,then its a G3 device & not a G4,but if it has '1' at the end like 2.21.0001,it certainly is a G4.
So,if its a G3 read and follow this gide :-
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
But,if its a G4,than it can be upgraded through either 'SoftSPL or HardSPL,you can read about them in the G4 sub-Forum,or the guide posted by ashasaur
thank you so much for the help! now if I can ever stop working so much I can find some time to upgrade lol seems like there's never enough hours in the day lol
thanks again!
Did You Read?
did you read the post over...?
Is G4 2.21.000x G4?
Or G3 2.21 G3?
Please post every number men! before you do it... ok
Its a recomendation!!!!!!! thats all.