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Can any one advice me how to improve the video quality in WMP 10 on the Tytn II
Compared with my previous Tytn I, the movies & clips do not play fluid, though RAM and ROM are better, and no other programs are running.
Same Sd card, same movie which plaid well on 30 FPS format plays rather chunky on the Tytn II. Is the Qualcomm CPU lesser compliant than the old one or so?
Some Reg tweaks to perform? (and which tweaker to use / download from where?)
Thanks guys!
For Information: According to the data sheet of the chipset it is providing uncompromising video quality for Video capture and playback
(30 fps VGA - even for Messageing) http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/msm7200_chipset.pdf
Maybe, but i fear the drivers are not playing nice with the new chipset
I mean, i understand the problem with TCPMP, since is third party software and it stopped being developed (at least the freeware app), but it shouldn't be any problem with the shipped software, right?
Here is to hoping for an updated driver... GO HTC!
could this be why they say to use activesync to transfer everything onto the p4550? maybe its not optimised for it or something. but still shouldnt lag like that
Maybe it is a lame question, but does ActiveSync automatically converts video&/mp4 to a format more digestable by the device? Like SPB Mobile DVD?
my impressions
Hi !
I also noticed that video playback is kinda bad on the TyTN II, compared to my Prophet (overclocked to 260MHz). When using TCPMP and even Coreplayer, the DirectDraw rendering mode is about 3 times slower than Raw Framebuffer mode, which makes me believe that it's a DDraw / drivers issue. Since WMP 10 most likely uses DDraw, that's probably why the video is lagging...
So: If you use TCPMP / Coreplayer, MAKE SURE YOU DON'T USE DIRECT DRAW . If you use WMP 10, i have no idea if you can choose not to use DDraw.
It's still kinda weird that the TI OMAP 200Mhz (OC @ 260Mhz) on the Prophet performs about the same as the "ultra fast brand new never before seem" MSM7200 400MHz when it comes to raw power (again, ignore DDraw case, where Prophet is 3 times faster, that will be fixed soon... i hope...)
GL&HF
RPG0 said:
Hi !
I also noticed that video playback is kinda bad on the TyTN II, compared to my Prophet (overclocked to 260MHz). When using TCPMP and even Coreplayer, the DirectDraw rendering mode is about 3 times slower than Raw Framebuffer mode, which makes me believe that it's a DDraw / drivers issue. Since WMP 10 most likely uses DDraw, that's probably why the video is lagging...
So: If you use TCPMP / Coreplayer, MAKE SURE YOU DON'T USE DIRECT DRAW . If you use WMP 10, i have no idea if you can choose not to use DDraw.
It's still kinda weird that the TI OMAP 200Mhz (OC @ 260Mhz) on the Prophet performs about the same as the "ultra fast brand new never before seem" MSM7200 400MHz when it comes to raw power (again, ignore DDraw case, where Prophet is 3 times faster, that will be fixed soon... i hope...)
GL&HF
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Have noticed the same thing. Using corecodec rawfb is the best option. Having said that I can watch h.264 AVC encoded at 400KBPS no problem. On my wizard watching anything other than DVI was pretty much impossible. So the processor has the power - we just need the drivers to back it up now.
Unfortunately this is the price you pay for being an early adopter. I imagine once the at&t version comes out drivers wont be long behind.
Don't people find a general slowness with the Kaiser? My old XDA Mini S OC'd to 260Mhz seemed so much quicker in many ways. The 400Mhz processor in the Kaiser is definitely quicker in some areas, but twice as quick as the old 200Mhz XDA? I think not. Here's hoping HTC release a new ROM soon. Bad news is I can't even see it on the HTC eClub site!!
Your MDA, running what? WM2003SE?
WM2003SE in general could be faster than WM5/6 because WM5/6 is Flash based. That means, the persistent storage. You wont loose your app when the battery is empty, but yeah you must pay the price.
UncleJimbo said:
Don't people find a general slowness with the Kaiser? My old XDA Mini S OC'd to 260Mhz seemed so much quicker in many ways. The 400Mhz processor in the Kaiser is definitely quicker in some areas, but twice as quick as the old 200Mhz XDA? I think not. Here's hoping HTC release a new ROM soon. Bad news is I can't even see it on the HTC eClub site!!
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So: If you use TCPMP / Coreplayer, MAKE SURE YOU DON'T USE DIRECT DRAW . If you use WMP 10, i have no idea if you can choose not to use DDraw.
GL&HF
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TCMP should be the solution as clips / movie do not lag with this one. Even Direct draw enabled is OK.
Issue is that do not support AAC plug-in, making MP4 movies useless.
Anyone tweaking the reg, or waiting for new drivers for this video performance issue?
(i do not supose HTC thinks that 3g standard should be used no? )
ceevee369 said:
TCMP should be the solution as clips / movie do not lag with this one. Even Direct draw enabled is OK.
Issue is that do not support AAC plug-in, making MP4 movies useless.
Anyone tweaking the reg, or waiting for new drivers for this video performance issue?
(i do not supose HTC thinks that 3g standard should be used no? )
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I'm pretty sure DirectDraw is 3 times slower.
Can you please benchmark on a clip with and without DDraw ?
I would really want to know if there are ROMs out there with DDraw fixed
BTW: this is KAISER SPECIFIC, does not apply to other PPCs afaik
Hello.
There is exactly the same pb on my new LG KS20 (MSM 7200 chip too)
I can't read video or play game with a decent frame rate
2 months later and still no fix for the slow performance in Video.
I installed the Coreplayer, took 2 weeks to play around with all settings, though no big changes. Directdraw enabled play s "OK". (no dither)
I guess the best thing to do is to ask CorePlayer which settings fit best on the Tytn II
It's all because of the missing video driver the the Qaualcomm 7200 chipset, if I watch a video on my Tytn 2 with TCMP using direct draw the fps feel 10 fps, now my original Touch with the 201mhz Omap 850 cpu plays the same video with direct draw very smoothly
We need video drivers
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It's all because of the missing video driver the the Qaualcomm 7200 chipset, if I watch a video on my Tytn 2 with TCMP using direct draw the fps feel 10 fps, now my original Touch with the 201mhz Omap 850 cpu plays the same video with direct draw very smoothly
We need video drivers
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I hope you signed the petition to HTC yes?
i forward the link to the petition to Cnet Asia. Hope they will make some noise!
Yes I signed the petition, read the petition post, glad HTC are aware of it
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Yes I signed the petition, read the petition post, glad HTC are aware of it
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Aware? Maybe, but do they care?
Maybe I'm the fly in the ointment but I have created lots of mp4 files from my normal video and use wm player and everythings great. Sorry
j1ngles said:
Maybe I'm the fly in the ointment but I have created lots of mp4 files from my normal video and use wm player and everythings great. Sorry
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Which MP4 convertor did you use and what is the FPS now? on 30, things become nasty, though 10 is stable.
I have neithe isues with small videoclips, though playing an AVI or MPEG file directly (712mb) is crappy for sure
ceevee369 said:
TCMP should be the solution as clips / movie do not lag with this one. Even Direct draw enabled is OK.
Issue is that do not support AAC plug-in, making MP4 movies useless.
Anyone tweaking the reg, or waiting for new drivers for this video performance issue?
(i do not supose HTC thinks that 3g standard should be used no? )
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TCPMP DOES support AAC with a plug-in that they are not allowed to host any more. It, however, is considerably worse than the one in CorePlayer.
If you do need it, I dig up the download URL of the AAC plug-in for you.
hello all!
i just got a kaiser from HK for a few days
maybe many ppl have the senses about the kaiser's poor video playing
bro mikeeey said that
mikeeey said:
have you tried setting your video driver to GDI? i would think that would solve the problem
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so it does! the video is much better
and after that i found a crazy problem is :
my kaiser plays a video while the keyboard is pulled out , the quality is worse than that while the keyboard is not pulled out,the same video file,the same player and the same setting~
how incredible !
its not just my personal feeling, i made a benchmark ,the result told me while the keyboard is pulled out the video's average speed is 20% or more lower than that while the keyboard isnt pulled out
any bro have the same problem?
and forgive my broken English,just want to share that with all u greatest guys
woohyuksheng said:
hello all!
i just got a kaiser from HK for a few days
maybe many ppl have the senses about the kaiser's poor video playing
bro mikeeey said that
so it does! the video is much better
and after that i found a crazy problem is :
my kaiser plays a video while the keyboard is pulled out , the quality is worse than that while the keyboard is not pulled out,the same video file,the same player and the same setting~
how incredible !
its not just my personal feeling, i made a benchmark ,the result told me while the keyboard is pulled out the video's average speed is 20% or more lower than that while the keyboard isnt pulled out
any bro have the same problem?
and forgive my broken English,just want to share that with all u greatest guys
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glad i could help! the qualcomm 7200 chip uses GDI. remember that for future purposes, whether it be gaming or video or anything.
its funny i dont have one of these but could help anyway. i sure wish AT&T would release the thing soon enough!
hey wait, did you say when the keyboard is out it still has problems? or was that fixed too?
Ok and how do I tell Windows media player to use GDI?
You cant (I dont know), but you can use TCPMP (just another free Media Player).
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You cant (I dont know), but you can use TCPMP (just another free Media Player).
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what kind of idiot makes a phone with wm6 but cant play any video with the included videoplayer wmp? smart move. Why didnt they include a videoplayer that works?
I'm using the Core Player and I tried "GDI" vs "Raw Frame Buffer" and the benchmark tells me;
GDI=Ave Speed of 135%
RawFrameBuffer=Ave Speed of 168%
Guess I'll stick with Raw, it plays my Divx vids perfectly, but I encode mine at 320x240 just for small gear like this and iPods. They look very sharp and clear at these modest rates.
I also tried RawFrameBuffer with the Keyboard Open=163%
glad to see u all greatest guys replied my thread!
and many thanks to awesome bro mikeeey & RemE! you rock!
i just tested & compared RawFrameBuffer with GDI
the average speeds r following:
RawFrameBuffer (with keyboard opened):125.11%
RawFrameBuffer (with keyboard closed):122.87%
GDI (with keyboard opened):75.90% 囧
GDI (with keyboard closed):110.29%
the result above tells:
the quality (GDI) is satisfied, and the RawFrameBuffer is better than GDI~~
my crazy problem in floor 1 seems just appearing in GDI video output
and thank all u greatest guys again!
what are you guys benchmarking with?
There is a built-in benchmark tool in TCPMP and Core Player
when in portrait mode, the video will be 240x180 if it is 4:3.
When in landscape it is 320x240
Maybe because it is pushing more pixels in landscape?
Mind you, in portrait surely it is having to do a rescale, but the figures would suggest that drawing the pixels chews more CPU than manipulating them.
This would seem to hold true for a system without a GPU.
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aha! i shall run some of my own to add to the collective benchmark pool
ive already thrown some extreme divx's at it and i can say that the cpu is the bottleneck, not rastering the output - as it stutters on visually complex scenes (scenes that require a fair whack of cpu to decode)
source vid meta (according to windows):
664x268 - duration: 02:19:08
audio: 112kbps mp3
video: 98kbps xvid - sample size 12bit - 23fps
TCPMP Version 0.72RC1 Benchmark Results
Average Speed 109.82%
Video Frames 5130
Audio Samples 10317847
Amount of Data 41481 KB
Bench. Time 3:14.827
Bench. Frame Rate 26.33
Bench. Sample Rate 52960
Bench. Data Rate 1.7 Mbit/s
Original Time 3:33.963
Original Frame Rate 23.97
Original Sample Rate 48000
Original Data Rate 1.5 Mbit/s
URL \Storage Card\SpiderMan 3.avi
Size 838916096
Platform PocketPC
OS Version 5.02
OEM Info Kaiser
Clock speed 385 Mhz
Video output Raw FrameBuffer 240x320 16bits Lookup
Video zoom 332x134 -> 132x320
Audio output Wave Output 48000Hz 16Bits 2Ch.
well, i bought an X1 about 3 weeks ago and it is undoubtedly the best phone i have ever owned, the only problem i am having with it is the video playback.
Since i download DIVx movies, i would like to just stick them in my X1 and watch them at full speed. I tried using core player but since it is not hardware accelerated, i could only watch the movies in medium quality which is MUCH worse than the high quality and if i set at high quality i get only 80% speed.
And i see people trying to get the best possible conversion settings in order to be able to play high quality videos on the Media Panel or on Media Player. I find this useless since it takes FOREVER to actually convert videos and since i have so many, it would be a very tedious task.
I have a possible solution for this and i have no clue how to actually do this so this is my request to the brilliant developers here,
Is there a way to actually get the divx codec somehow from the samsung omnia and port it to other devices like X1 and seveal HTCs??? I mean i think it is theoretically possible since ppl have actualy gotten the Omnia ATI drivers right???
Hope this works!!!
I guess you could just download the divx mobile player from
http://labs.divx.com/MobileCommunity
I haven't used it in x1 but I did use it in the touch pro. I did not like the speed. As it wasn't my phone, I didn't bother to do any tweaks. I think it will be fine on the x1.
maybe i can help
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well, i bought an X1 about 3 weeks ago and it is undoubtedly the best phone i have ever owned, the only problem i am having with it is the video playback.
Since i download DIVx movies, i would like to just stick them in my X1 and watch them at full speed. I tried using core player but since it is not hardware accelerated, i could only watch the movies in medium quality which is MUCH worse than the high quality and if i set at high quality i get only 80% speed.
And i see people trying to get the best possible conversion settings in order to be able to play high quality videos on the Media Panel or on Media Player. I find this useless since it takes FOREVER to actually convert videos and since i have so many, it would be a very tedious task.
I have a possible solution for this and i have no clue how to actually do this so this is my request to the brilliant developers here,
Is there a way to actually get the divx codec somehow from the samsung omnia and port it to other devices like X1 and seveal HTCs??? I mean i think it is theoretically possible since ppl have actualy gotten the Omnia ATI drivers right???
Hope this works!!!
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well there are a lot of factors here, and im certainly no expert, but ill give this a whirl...
i have had my xperia for just about a month now and i have been watching divx movies on my coreplayer at high video quality flawlessly. or so i thought.. I watched some pretty fast paced movies too, like the matrix... and they seemed fine to me. again i dont know if any of my suggestions will make anydifference, or even be relavent to you, but i figured i could at least try to help. I will share what i found in general with my x1 and the core player
1. the x1 is highly tweakable in so many ways. I dont know how much youve looked around at how people are speeding it up using sktools, or the now famous storage card accelerator, but these things really do help. you should try them and see if you get any improvement. here is the link to the thread where this is all going down... to make it simple.. get skt tools, optimize, and get the sd card accelerator... the rest you can mess with at your own pace, but this will give you a big start.... anyway if you havent tried this stuff.. it may help..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459328&highlight=show
2. god knows the coreplayer has so many $*$#* options... but here is something i noticed deep in the canyons of the player after my core player was bogging down horrendously for apparently no reason.... i have a lot of files on my sd card, and when i first opened the core player... the first few times even.. it lagged so much i couldnt figure out why... then i realized it was trying to scan my sd card and it wasnt really teling me it was doing this... there is an option that comes selected as default that tells the coreplayer to scan for files for its library on startup... if you have thousands of files like i did, and you didnt realize it was trying to build a library, like i didnt, and you opend and closed it several times... ok you get the point.. once it finally built its library, i found the option to turn off the auto scan, and boom,... suddenly it was working much much faster
3. i dont know if this makes any difference whatsoever, but i have an x1i, and i bet you do too, but if you have an x1a, there may be video playback differences in these "international" and "US" models that could be a factor too.
im guessing that what you are referring to, and what i have posted may not even relate, but it never hurts to try. FYI i just benchmarked for a minute or so while watching a divx movie and it read average somewhere in the 80% range... i dont know what that means, but the movie seemed to be plaing perfectly...
div x player
just tried the divx player to see how it compared to the core player...
core player works much better.... divx player was quite choppy.
maybe im missing something.. and i probably am, but the core player seems to be playing the divx movies perfectly at high quality
well, i have tried the divx player and it is absolute crap compared to coreplayer
benchmarking at 80 percent means that u skip about 1-2 frames every second. now might sound like much but i notice it and it is very annying. yes i have tried all the things u mentioned but did not notice much change except for with the memory card booster.
also the media panel and media player are hardware accelerated which means that they make use of the onboard ati graphics chip. coreplayer is not. also imagine watching a divx movie on the media panel wouldnt that be cool?? with the great interface and the speed and smoothness of the bond trailer?? i would very much like that. hope someone can get the codec somehow!
i see
thanks for the education. i guess ignorance was bliss on my part..
i hope we do find a solution here. any idea why the downloaded divx player works so poorly? maybe its tweakable?
I guess it simply sucks. Coreplayer is best player, and unfortunately by far margin. Unfortunately because there is low chance any other player will popup soon. Sooner or later Coreplayer will find a way to follow current devices.
Btw. be sure you use Coreplayer with TytnII qTV driver (should be default settings for 1.3). You can also disable AVC filter and high quality zoom. Other then that nothing really has effect on the playback speed.
The best player.
But almost half new movies are in AC3 format.
And CorePlayer don't support AC3.
core player team claim that they will support all qtv shipset in version 2
so just have to wait a litte while
ahhhhh thanks fo the info Tywith, thats definitely something to look forward to. i mean if im not mistaken, the TytnII does not have an ati chipset built in. having support for qtv chipset dedicated to XPERIA will definitely make it run smoother
all we have to do is wait.
Look at this sticky: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467590
If you convert your movies to mp4 you can play your movies using media player with hardware acceleration. You can create a joblist to convert multiple movies when you're sleeping
If you wanna use CorePlayer with hardware acceleration, use the DirectDraw in
Settings > Video. I've tried it and it works perfectly. It really takes full advantage of the Adreno 200 GPU (ATI 3D chip) and CPU.
Hammerhead89 said:
If you wanna use CorePlayer with hardware acceleration, use the DirectDraw in
Settings > Video. I've tried it and it works perfectly. It really takes full advantage of the Adreno 200 GPU (ATI 3D chip) and CPU.
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Maybe it takes full advantage of the Adreno 200, but Xperia X1 has Adreno 130 which is much weaker than 200
radzix27 said:
Maybe it takes full advantage of the Adreno 200, but Xperia X1 has Adreno 130 which is much weaker than 200
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DAmn!!!! But still works nice!!
Hammerhead89 said:
DAmn!!!! But still works nice!!
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which version of coreplayer are you using?
1.3.6 didn't have hw-acceleration for playback. sure, on a good rom and with video-files not being too demanding, playback was nice -> sw-playback. but it didn't support our hw directly. and from what i can see, 1.3.6 is the last version for winmo.
btw, funny to see they closed forums on their site. probably too many threads "when will you finally deliver what you promised?" and accuses of coreguy producing vaporware...
hello all
i have a standard xvid clip (640x272) that can only play @ 20.8fps on core player(stock rom) (with itje 10.1 ROM i get 21.3fps)
the same clip plays @ 23.8fps on the touch HD and 24.3 diamond 2(stock ROMs)
i tried so many other clips as benchmarks and its evident that the x1 is constantly %18-%20 slower than other HTC devices with identical specs (cpu and resolution)
can anyone explain this phenomena? i sure hope that there is light at the end of the tunnel
What do you have installed on it? Perhaps some background processes, like panelmanager?
come to think of it, its not just the video that is constantly slower on the x1. its the whole ROM in general (navigating between various wm programs, switching between applications....etc) is clearly much slower on the xperia even though it has the same CPU speeds (just look at an video review of the tp2 or td2 in youtube and you can clearly see how they are much faster)
even the fastest x1 cooked roms are noticeably slower than the HD,td2 and tp2 stock roms
hope SE can do something about that and i hope and i hope our chefs can eventually close the performance gap.
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What do you have installed on it? Perhaps some background processes, like panelmanager?
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its actully a fresh flash (itje 10.1) with only core player installed now not even emails or contacts are added yet
do you get better performance on reasonably good quality XVID dvdrips (close to 640x272 resolutions)
What coreplayer version did you use to test? I can try installing the same and see what I get. Also, what settings?
Same problem here, videos always cease in the first seconds.
By the way, which coreplayer version is the best to use for xperia?
im not facing a bug like F-Styla as it does not suffer from the stuter i just have constant low performance compared to HD and td2
i just benchmarked the video on an ancient HTC macian and i got 39fps!!!!!!! (on qvga resolution though)
using full version of coreplayer 1.3.2
THE GRIZZ said:
im not facing a bug like F-Styla as it does not suffer from the stuter i just have constant low performance compared to HD and td2
i just benchmarked the video on an ancient HTC macian and i got 39fps!!!!!!! (on qvga resolution though)
using full version of coreplayer 1.3.2
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Since I discovered this great app (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467590) never had a problem viewing any video. Great resolution, small size of files, no lags.
However, I heard somewhere that coreplayer can't use hw acceleration on X1. Do not know if that's true also for HTC, but that could explain the performance differences
[email protected] said:
Since I discovered this great app (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467590) never had a problem viewing any video.
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reencoding videos is not really a solution if you ask me
-my understanding that full qtv support is coming with ver2.0
my problem is that why the heck is the x1 so much slower (in everything)than identically specd devices like the HD. is there an easy way to varify that we are runiing at the FULL 528mhz and overclock in case we are not
THE GRIZZ said:
reencoding videos is not really a solution if you ask me
-my understanding that full qtv support is coming with ver2.0
my problem is that why the heck is the x1 so much slower (in everything)than identically specd devices like the HD. is there an easy way to varify that we are runiing at the FULL 528mhz and overclock in case we are not
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Somewhere here in this forum I read that actually the X1 is NOT running at full speed. I know, I have not been really precise... but with a little bit of search you can find out the thread I am talking about.
I think all HTC devices except the original XDA have video sync/playback issues. There are tons of threads on this. Get yourself a PMP to enjoy quality videos.
X1 runs at 400 mhz currently, although the processor is in fact 528 mhz. The downgrade is made in order to save power and lower heat levels. You can check the current speed by installing an app like HomeScreen++.
I would like to see what the X1 can do with the full 528 mhz, but I haven't seen any solution for it so far.
I enjoy perfect quality after I downloaded the app from the front page.
orelsi said:
X1 runs at 400 mhz currently, although the processor is in fact 528 mhz. They downgrade is made in order to save power and lower heat levels. You can check the current speed by installing an app like HomeScreen++.
I would like to see what the X1 can do with the full 528 mhz, but I haven't seen any solution for it so far.
I enjoy perfect quality after I downloaded the app from the front page.
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i got a program that can change clockspeed .. up to 528 , with nice settings like , lower it down @ backlight off , lower it down @ power button
it can still play mp3 at only 62mhz badass phone lol
i had it cooked in my rom Touch X 6.1.2b
programs called nueCPL - ClockSpee v1.2 (Build117)
www.nuerom.com
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueDynamicClock.aspx
THE GRIZZ said:
reencoding videos is not really a solution if you ask me
-my understanding that full qtv support is coming with ver2.0
my problem is that why the heck is the x1 so much slower (in everything)than identically specd devices like the HD. is there an easy way to varify that we are runiing at the FULL 528mhz and overclock in case we are not
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I experienced the same slowness using Coreplayer, I am using v1.2.5.
After I put a non Touch-flo on the SEX1 I did not have a slow Coreplayer anymore, so I would suggest try a different ROM and see if the problem is still there.
I am using gtrabs wm6.5 rom and I have no problem playing video on Coreplayer without reencoding the video.
souljaboy said:
programs called nueCPL - ClockSpee v1.2 (Build117)
www.nuerom.com
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueDynamicClock.aspx
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-just installed it
its says im already @528 (not 400mhz). i changed everything to 528mhz on all settings but that did not help in fact for some dumb reason in getting even less performance now @19.18 fps
-installed home screen ++ but im not sure where the settings is to show current speed (will look more after i reflash)
-turned off touchflo3d also didnt help
-this 400MHZ thing seems like a major problem with the X1, are you sure its true? i would imagine a lot of noise and complaints if it were true ?
-will go and flash into a beare bones rom now to see if it helps
souljaboy said:
i got a program that can change clockspeed .. up to 528 , with nice settings like , lower it down @ backlight off , lower it down @ power button
it can still play mp3 at only 62mhz badass phone lol
i had it cooked in my rom Touch X 6.1.2b
programs called nueCPL - ClockSpee v1.2 (Build117)
www.nuerom.com
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueDynamicClock.aspx
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Thanks! That works to make it feel quite a bit snappier (I know its not scientific, but haven't benchmarked anything)
I am also having a video problem, rather than make new thread I post it here.
Well, not a single HD video plays on my Xperia now, Coreplayer tries to but its so choppy and insane which I now know doesn't use hardware acceleration.
Now after converting the video with Touch HD video converter software, WMP says "The source filter for this file could not be loaded."
I also found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365381
But still nothing at all.
Any solutions? Must I change ROMs to play HD videos?
weird I don't have any problem with video performance, I'm using coreplayer and they just flies!!!!!!!
wazaaappp said:
weird I don't have any problem with video performance, I'm using coreplayer and they just flies!!!!!!!
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thats weird. are sure your video files are good resolution
can you make sure of the resolution of the file. also did you use the benchmarking tool in core player
i changed the rom but im getting the same results
THE GRIZZ said:
-just installed it
its says im already @528 (not 400mhz). i changed everything to 528mhz on all settings but that did not help in fact for some dumb reason in getting even less performance now @19.18 fps
-installed home screen ++ but im not sure where the settings is to show current speed (will look more after i reflash)
-this 400MHZ thing seems like a major problem with the X1, are you sure its true? i would imagine a lot of noise and complaints if it were true ?
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- I think its under ...options - indicators.... IIRC.
- It is major and was talked about quite a lot when the X1 was launched.
DeeChan said:
I am also having a video problem, rather than make new thread I post it here.
Well, not a single HD video plays on my Xperia now, Coreplayer tries to but its so choppy and insane which I now know doesn't use hardware acceleration.
Now after converting the video with Touch HD video converter software, WMP says "The source filter for this file could not be loaded."
I also found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365381
But still nothing at all.
Any solutions? Must I change ROMs to play HD videos?
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I had a similar issue when I messed up my video drivers with something I installed. The only solution was a hard reset.
hey people ive spent weeks trying to play a smooth video on my x1 so far everything i done had failed whether it was wmp or tcpmp or even coreplayer,read almost every post tried almost every converter and pretty still stuck seems as if my old tytn plays videos smoother so i can only hope coreplayer releases a new version soon! if anyone knows anything please post thanks
Zeyn Karim said:
hey people ive spent weeks trying to play a smooth video on my x1 so far everything i done had failed whether it was wmp or tcpmp or even coreplayer,read almost every post tried almost every converter and pretty still stuck seems as if my old tytn plays videos smoother so i can only hope coreplayer releases a new version soon! if anyone knows anything please post thanks
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What ROM do you use?
I am able to play the Bond trailer (.mp4) without problems, with WMP and TCPMP.
Link to TCPMP:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634951
im using the pheonix rom build 56502 WWE. is this tcpmp any better than the latest coreplayer? because so far coreplayer played videos better than wmp and tcpmp although it was still laggy maybe it's my drivers but im using the omina driver and get a better benchmark than the rest with sktools 792 to be exact
i've been using the video encoder provided in the sticky and it has by far surpassed all other video encoders that i've used. it takes advantage of the hardware acceleration in the X1 but the only video app that uses it is WMP and the Media Panel.
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i've been using the video encoder provided in the sticky and it has by far surpassed all other video encoders that i've used. it takes advantage of the hardware acceleration in the X1 but the only video app that uses it is WMP and the Media Panel.
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I don't know bout you but using that encoder takes 6 to 7 hours and sometimes it freezes, I don't have the time and patience for that. @ Zeyn Karim I have a collection of video drivers that might maybe improve your performance. Not 100% sure it will but I guess it won't hurt to try.
tried and failed with that converter lol even waited a whole night to encode only to be dissapointed the next morning.
anyway thanks guys for the support and drivers will run couple tests and let ya know the results hopefully this will solve my problem not sure why but my media player doesn't seem to run as good as everyone claims it does, i should remove the omina driver lets hope that's the problem
tried every driver and no luck! looks like i'll never be able to watch anything on my xperia! so i give up! stupid coreplayer! what's taking them so long! been reading up and looks like they rather work on the stupid UI instead of focus on HW support! i don't care if coreplayer looks crap! only thing i want is a smooth crisp video is that too much to ask! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Yeah I'm kinda disappointed as well. I was watching a lot of videos on my old wm 5.0 smartphone but the Xperia fails. I activated "Raw FrameBuffer" and videos got smoother - still don't think thats what you are looking for...(only tried out fairly low quality movies...)
Zeyn Karim said:
tried every driver and no luck! looks like i'll never be able to watch anything on my xperia! so i give up! stupid coreplayer! what's taking them so long! been reading up and looks like they rather work on the stupid UI instead of focus on HW support! i don't care if coreplayer looks crap! only thing i want is a smooth crisp video is that too much to ask! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684106
This version of TCMP I get video playback in GDI mode very smooth I watched Shutter Island on it with no lag.
Yeah,my old tytn may not have been the best phone in the world but atleast i could watch some of my favourite shows whenever i felt like.
thanks viper89 will test out the tcpmp,glad to see youve been watching something on your x1,can you please state which encoder you used and are you also using the omina driver?
Zeyn Karim said:
Yeah,my old tytn may not have been the best phone in the world but atleast i could watch some of my favourite shows whenever i felt like.
thanks viper89 will test out the tcpmp,glad to see youve been watching something on your x1,can you please state which encoder you used and are you also using the omina driver?
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I actually didn't encode the video, I don't watch movies that much so I really don't bother with encoding and the one that is stickied takes ages to encode . The video drivers that are installed in my phone are:Chainfire-HD2-3D-Driver-Patch-2.0( not sure if this has any effect in are phones),Chainfire-TG01-D3DM( not sure if this any effect either lol),Driver_Ati d3d, SJ SamsungOmnia_Driver_D3D and optxperiabeta02( It makes the sound in the X1 louder but it also said that it changes the video driver to.)
Wow you installed all of them! what's your benchmark with sktools? and does the "optxperiabeta02" damage your speaker in any way? if not could you please post it thanks,Is it a noticable difference?
Zeyn Karim said:
Wow you installed all of them! what's your benchmark with sktools? and does the "optxperiabeta02" damage your speaker in any way? if not could you please post it thanks,Is it a noticable difference?
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My Sktool benchmark is: Integer 331, Floating Point 7.71, Draw Bitmaps 656. Also a important fact is it also depends on your rom Stock or none Stock and if it's 6.1 or 6.5 and if your running Sense 2.5 in your rom(which I am), so my stats most likely would be higher in a stock 6.1 rom. I've had my phone for 8 month and been using optxperiabeta02 for 7 month and no speaker damage. And it makes a hell of a noticeable difference lol.
my benchmark is integer 331, floating point 7.47 ,ram access 1519 , draw bitmaps 800 , main write 11070 ,main read 17066 still have no idea why im having video problems.by the way im running 6.1 with manilla 2.5 sense
Zeyn Karim said:
my benchmark is integer 331, floating point 7.47 ,ram access 1519 , draw bitmaps 800 , main write 11070 ,main read 17066 still have no idea why im having video problems.by the way im running 6.1 with manilla 2.5 sense
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Hmm draw bitmaps 800 nice. It might because your on 6.1 oppose to my 6.5. Your still having videos problems playing videos in GDI mode in TCMP?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/
showthread.php?t=684106 havnt got a chance to test yet but will try as soon as i get time did you try kinoma play? im interested to find out hows the playback. damn coreplayer if only they would support our HW id would be so awesome!
Guys there is really a simple answer to this thread: There is only one solution for decent video playback on Xperia X1. Convert your movies to mp4 (h264 avc codec, max. resolution 800 * 480, bitrate 600 kbps) and play them in WMP or Media Xperience Panel (I prefer the latter). You can either use the converter provided by xda (projection) or any other software that supports this codec. There might be some differences in duration of a convertion and it is definitely dependant on your computer's specs (processor) but generally converting videos is a time consuming task and 6 - 7 hours isn't really inappropriate for entire movies (2-3 hours). Everything else won't work. Coreplayer, Pocketplayer, Kinoma etc. do not support hw acceleration and thus 480 * 320 is the maximum resolution that can be played back using those players. If you want high quality movies (what is definitely possible on the Xperia X1) you will have to face convertion to the right format. There aren't any drivers that do miracles and there aren't any insider tips. Only convertion will do the trick.
thank you altae for those bad/good news
Maybe I'm missing something. I've never had any problems playing videos or movies on my X1. Just rewatched Princess Blade on it the other day, in fact.
The truth can sometimes be hard But let's stay serious: It's a pity that WMP or Media Xperience Panel do not support more codecs especially the very widely used xvid/dvix codecs.
But the positive news are: It's definitely possible to play high quality movies as long as they are in the right format. And for all the short videos you would like to show a friend you have always the possibility to play divx/xvid movies in 480 * 320 which isn't that bad for this purpose.