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Can any one advice me how to improve the video quality in WMP 10 on the Tytn II
Compared with my previous Tytn I, the movies & clips do not play fluid, though RAM and ROM are better, and no other programs are running.
Same Sd card, same movie which plaid well on 30 FPS format plays rather chunky on the Tytn II. Is the Qualcomm CPU lesser compliant than the old one or so?
Some Reg tweaks to perform? (and which tweaker to use / download from where?)
Thanks guys!
For Information: According to the data sheet of the chipset it is providing uncompromising video quality for Video capture and playback
(30 fps VGA - even for Messageing) http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/msm7200_chipset.pdf
Maybe, but i fear the drivers are not playing nice with the new chipset
I mean, i understand the problem with TCPMP, since is third party software and it stopped being developed (at least the freeware app), but it shouldn't be any problem with the shipped software, right?
Here is to hoping for an updated driver... GO HTC!
could this be why they say to use activesync to transfer everything onto the p4550? maybe its not optimised for it or something. but still shouldnt lag like that
Maybe it is a lame question, but does ActiveSync automatically converts video&/mp4 to a format more digestable by the device? Like SPB Mobile DVD?
my impressions
Hi !
I also noticed that video playback is kinda bad on the TyTN II, compared to my Prophet (overclocked to 260MHz). When using TCPMP and even Coreplayer, the DirectDraw rendering mode is about 3 times slower than Raw Framebuffer mode, which makes me believe that it's a DDraw / drivers issue. Since WMP 10 most likely uses DDraw, that's probably why the video is lagging...
So: If you use TCPMP / Coreplayer, MAKE SURE YOU DON'T USE DIRECT DRAW . If you use WMP 10, i have no idea if you can choose not to use DDraw.
It's still kinda weird that the TI OMAP 200Mhz (OC @ 260Mhz) on the Prophet performs about the same as the "ultra fast brand new never before seem" MSM7200 400MHz when it comes to raw power (again, ignore DDraw case, where Prophet is 3 times faster, that will be fixed soon... i hope...)
GL&HF
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Hi !
I also noticed that video playback is kinda bad on the TyTN II, compared to my Prophet (overclocked to 260MHz). When using TCPMP and even Coreplayer, the DirectDraw rendering mode is about 3 times slower than Raw Framebuffer mode, which makes me believe that it's a DDraw / drivers issue. Since WMP 10 most likely uses DDraw, that's probably why the video is lagging...
So: If you use TCPMP / Coreplayer, MAKE SURE YOU DON'T USE DIRECT DRAW . If you use WMP 10, i have no idea if you can choose not to use DDraw.
It's still kinda weird that the TI OMAP 200Mhz (OC @ 260Mhz) on the Prophet performs about the same as the "ultra fast brand new never before seem" MSM7200 400MHz when it comes to raw power (again, ignore DDraw case, where Prophet is 3 times faster, that will be fixed soon... i hope...)
GL&HF
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Have noticed the same thing. Using corecodec rawfb is the best option. Having said that I can watch h.264 AVC encoded at 400KBPS no problem. On my wizard watching anything other than DVI was pretty much impossible. So the processor has the power - we just need the drivers to back it up now.
Unfortunately this is the price you pay for being an early adopter. I imagine once the at&t version comes out drivers wont be long behind.
Don't people find a general slowness with the Kaiser? My old XDA Mini S OC'd to 260Mhz seemed so much quicker in many ways. The 400Mhz processor in the Kaiser is definitely quicker in some areas, but twice as quick as the old 200Mhz XDA? I think not. Here's hoping HTC release a new ROM soon. Bad news is I can't even see it on the HTC eClub site!!
Your MDA, running what? WM2003SE?
WM2003SE in general could be faster than WM5/6 because WM5/6 is Flash based. That means, the persistent storage. You wont loose your app when the battery is empty, but yeah you must pay the price.
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Don't people find a general slowness with the Kaiser? My old XDA Mini S OC'd to 260Mhz seemed so much quicker in many ways. The 400Mhz processor in the Kaiser is definitely quicker in some areas, but twice as quick as the old 200Mhz XDA? I think not. Here's hoping HTC release a new ROM soon. Bad news is I can't even see it on the HTC eClub site!!
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RPG0 said:
Hi !
So: If you use TCPMP / Coreplayer, MAKE SURE YOU DON'T USE DIRECT DRAW . If you use WMP 10, i have no idea if you can choose not to use DDraw.
GL&HF
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TCMP should be the solution as clips / movie do not lag with this one. Even Direct draw enabled is OK.
Issue is that do not support AAC plug-in, making MP4 movies useless.
Anyone tweaking the reg, or waiting for new drivers for this video performance issue?
(i do not supose HTC thinks that 3g standard should be used no? )
ceevee369 said:
TCMP should be the solution as clips / movie do not lag with this one. Even Direct draw enabled is OK.
Issue is that do not support AAC plug-in, making MP4 movies useless.
Anyone tweaking the reg, or waiting for new drivers for this video performance issue?
(i do not supose HTC thinks that 3g standard should be used no? )
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I'm pretty sure DirectDraw is 3 times slower.
Can you please benchmark on a clip with and without DDraw ?
I would really want to know if there are ROMs out there with DDraw fixed
BTW: this is KAISER SPECIFIC, does not apply to other PPCs afaik
Hello.
There is exactly the same pb on my new LG KS20 (MSM 7200 chip too)
I can't read video or play game with a decent frame rate
2 months later and still no fix for the slow performance in Video.
I installed the Coreplayer, took 2 weeks to play around with all settings, though no big changes. Directdraw enabled play s "OK". (no dither)
I guess the best thing to do is to ask CorePlayer which settings fit best on the Tytn II
It's all because of the missing video driver the the Qaualcomm 7200 chipset, if I watch a video on my Tytn 2 with TCMP using direct draw the fps feel 10 fps, now my original Touch with the 201mhz Omap 850 cpu plays the same video with direct draw very smoothly
We need video drivers
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It's all because of the missing video driver the the Qaualcomm 7200 chipset, if I watch a video on my Tytn 2 with TCMP using direct draw the fps feel 10 fps, now my original Touch with the 201mhz Omap 850 cpu plays the same video with direct draw very smoothly
We need video drivers
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I hope you signed the petition to HTC yes?
i forward the link to the petition to Cnet Asia. Hope they will make some noise!
Yes I signed the petition, read the petition post, glad HTC are aware of it
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Yes I signed the petition, read the petition post, glad HTC are aware of it
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Aware? Maybe, but do they care?
Maybe I'm the fly in the ointment but I have created lots of mp4 files from my normal video and use wm player and everythings great. Sorry
j1ngles said:
Maybe I'm the fly in the ointment but I have created lots of mp4 files from my normal video and use wm player and everythings great. Sorry
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Which MP4 convertor did you use and what is the FPS now? on 30, things become nasty, though 10 is stable.
I have neithe isues with small videoclips, though playing an AVI or MPEG file directly (712mb) is crappy for sure
ceevee369 said:
TCMP should be the solution as clips / movie do not lag with this one. Even Direct draw enabled is OK.
Issue is that do not support AAC plug-in, making MP4 movies useless.
Anyone tweaking the reg, or waiting for new drivers for this video performance issue?
(i do not supose HTC thinks that 3g standard should be used no? )
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TCPMP DOES support AAC with a plug-in that they are not allowed to host any more. It, however, is considerably worse than the one in CorePlayer.
If you do need it, I dig up the download URL of the AAC plug-in for you.
Hello,
Just brought Diamond and noticed that Coreplayer QTV doesn't work. Need to switch back to Directdraw. Anyone having similar problem ?
Thanks !
try this version.. and let us know if it works!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380387
really??what a shame
so...is it another device without the proper driver?
No, its an incompatability.
someone1234 said:
try this version.. and let us know if it works!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380387
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It seems to me according to the post, the build in the post does not relate to QTV.
Seems there is also some discussion regarding the problem on Tytn II with WM 6.1
http://www.corecodec.com/forums/index.php?topic=1044.15
Maybe I will just wait for the 1.2.5 release.
The Diamond does have driver acceleration though so do you really need QTv? (ie is DirectDraw slow?)
The QTv mode in CorePlayer is a "workaround" that the developers had to use for Qualcomm devices that doesn't have proper drivers, since the Diamond does have drivers you shouldn't need to use the work around..?
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The Diamond does have driver acceleration though so do you really need QTv? (ie is DirectDraw slow?)
The QTv mode in CorePlayer is a "workaround" that the developers had to use for Qualcomm devices that doesn't have proper drivers, since the Diamond does have drivers you shouldn't need to use the work around..?
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For performance, my guts feeling is that it is not better compared with universal (I sold my universal before, cannot compare). Hence, I think there should be room for improvement.
I am not familiar with what QTv really does, and not sure how to define what a driver is supposed to optimize. But since Diamond runs TouchFlo 3D pretty fine, can I say it has proper driver ? Does driver need to accelerate 2D applications or video decoding ? I am not sure about that.
Thanks.
We just released CorePlayer v1.2.5 that has a QTv fix for WM 6.1, see:
http://www.corecodec.com/forums/index.php?topic=1071.0
Can anyone confirm that the 1.2.5 works on the diamond?
1.25's qtv mode is indeed working fine on Diamond.
I am not sure how to interpret these benchmark numbers tho. The video file is 640x480 mp4. In any case, video looks really clear altho screen size is a bit too small for my taste.
Average Speed: 112.86% (vs. 77.17% on DirectDraw)
Video Frames: 4706 (vs. 3054 on DirectDraw)
Audio Samples: 8674720
Amount of Data: 31939 KB
Bench. Time: 02:53.913
Bench. Frame Rate: 27.060
Bench. Sample Rate: 49879
Bench. Data Rate: 1.50 Mbit/s
Original Time: 03:16.280
Original Frame Rate: 23.976
Original Sample Rate: 44100
Original Data Rate: 1.33 Mbit/s
The QTV working when using coreplayer 1.2.5, but I experience the screen not synchronize when playing fast motion video. Just like have a line moving form left to right. Is it normal behaviour?As I haven't such problem when I was using Dopod 900 with Intel Xscale mode.
ngod said:
The QTV working when using coreplayer 1.2.5, but I experience the screen not synchronize when playing fast motion video. Just like have a line moving form left to right. Is it normal behaviour?As I haven't such problem when I was using Dopod 900 with Intel Xscale mode.
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It's lacking vertical synchronization.
It exhibits the same problem on the Kaiser.
As far as I can tell only DirectDraw and GDI use vsync in CorePlayer, unfortunately they also perform the worst (GDI is usually a lot better than DirectDraw on the Kaiser though, dunno about the Diamond)
1.2.5's QTV does not work on youtube !
I just testet 1.2.5 on my Diamnond HTC, but it didn't work on YouTube videos. The wierd thing is that at the first try, it did play a YouTube video but after a restart, it stopped playing YouTube videos. I tried DirectDraw but it didn't help. With QTV, I get a purple screen with the "loading cricle" going round and round and with DirectDraw, I get a black screen with the "loading cricle" going round and round. So, has anyone this prblem? I mean problem with YouTube videos on CorePlayer?
lutanica... Video output, IE: Directdraw has nothing to do with the buffering icon..... likely you need to change your YouTube Quality setting..... 'Preferences > Network > YouTube' and select one that works.
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lutanica... Video output, IE: Directdraw has nothing to do with the buffering icon..... likely you need to change your YouTube Quality setting..... 'Preferences > Network > YouTube' and select one that works.
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I've done this setting and youtube works fine through Coreplayer. One weird thing though the Youtube appication that came with my diamond now won't play any video, the sound plays fine but the screen is blank. It worked fine before installing Coreplayer, but i've also installed several other apps and i'm not sure whether it's coreplayer or something else that's messed up the Youtube app?
anyone else experienced this on their diamond??
HELP!
i've some problem with coreplayer 1.2.5 and QTv.
i've never noticed before but, since some week with QTv :
- video and images takes some seconds to display
or
- images are not displayed till i press again on screen
or
- videos and images are not displayed at all
i dont know what happened
i tried to uninstall, clear registry, softreset, reinstall
but with no results...
Qtv is buggy on the Diamond and must be used with "TytnII Driver mode".
Mine was not working and suddenly it does now. It helps a lot, but there is still the Vsync issues.
Hi my coreplayer couldnt panelling to the middle of the movie. I had to watch it from the start, is there anyway i can forward it to the mid part of the movie? My file is in FLV.
Playing these with The core media player the one off here. Its absoultley terriable playing them, lags and freezes everywhere then evetually after a bit crash up. I have closed all other programmes down and still its rubbish.
Any solutions as this device is maent to have good hardware speeds.
How 's about camera ? is it working well in low light ?
you should prob state what res those avi mpg's are as there would be a lot of difference between 640_480 ones vs. 800_600 ones
if they are 640_480 ones then maybe the missing qualcomm driver still haunts
I guess resolution might matter to as it plays smaller vidieos well but on the imate universal it plays them very well even if they are full avi's or mpg.
I guess this is another device rushed again.
im using coreplayer v1.2.5 build 4506 on qtv at high quality with a 700 meg avi file res 512x288 and its running like butter, its a huge huge leap from the touch cruise! Im very pleased with the diamonds performance.
Edit, I just did coreplayers Benchmark on this vid and got:
Average Speed: 130.09%
Video Frames: 1976
Audio Samples: 3844971
Amount Of Data: 5116KB
Bench Time: 01:00.756
Bench Frame Rate: 32.524
Bench Sample Rate: 63285
Bench Data Rate 689 kbit/s
Original Time: 1:19.040
Original Framerate: 25.00
Original Sample Rate: 48000
Original Data Rate: 530 kbit/s
I have no idea wether they are good or not but to me the playback is perfect!
Would you or someone else mind doing an apples to apples benchmark using Coreplayer? I'm concerned that the Diamond may still not have good video drivers. I used the clip below to test the 6700 vs. the HTC 6900 "Vogue" (Sprint Touch) and found that the 6700 was sadly superior.
Please download and play the "Futurama: Bender's Big Score" preview from below:
http://mediafilmnetwork.com/
Run it fullscreen landscape with nothing else in the background, and let me know what your benchmark results were. I'll post mine at 416 and 624mhz.
P0ll0L0c0 said:
Would you or someone else mind doing an apples to apples benchmark using Coreplayer? I'm concerned that the Diamond may still not have good video drivers. I used the clip below to test the 6700 vs. the HTC 6900 "Vogue" (Sprint Touch) and found that the 6700 was sadly superior.
Please download and play the "Futurama: Bender's Big Score" preview from below:
http://mediafilmnetwork.com/
Run it fullscreen landscape with nothing else in the background, and let me know what your benchmark results were. I'll post mine at 416 and 624mhz.
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Just done it, it said ac3 not supported but did the bench anyway on default settings ie qtv high quality and the diamond at defaults.
Average Speed: 125.63%
Video Frames: 3000
Amount Of Data: 25138 KB
Bench Time: 01:39.599
Bench Frame Rate: 30.121
Bench Data Rate 2.07 Mbit/s
Original Time: 2:05.125
Original Framerate: 23.976
Original Data Rate: 1.65 Mbit/s
Hope this helps!!
Is it anygood? it certainly looked bloody good and smooth!
That would be REALLY good if sound were enabled . . . I did a similar test with the 6700 and the Touch - and the Touch was able to get similar results when the user disabled sound. Obviously, when sound was enabled - their results became terrible. I'm hoping your Diamond is still trying to work with sound, and the results reflect what you'd see during actual usage. I'm using TCPMP with the AC3 plugin.
Let me post results from my 6700:
624mhz (XCPUScalar)
Average speed: 131.91%
Bench Frame Rate: 31.63
Sample Rate: 63565
Bench Data Rate: 2.1MB/S
416mhz
Average speed: 109.58%
Bench Frame Rate: 26.27
Sample Rate: 52744
Bench Data Rate: 1.8MB/S
Can you either enable the AC3 plugin, or find another online video I can access - that you can actually play? I'd love to test and make sure we're comparing performance at the same task. I'm concerned that HTC may not have their video drivers straightened out. That's the only thing keeping me from considering an "upgrade".
Okay seems like some of you got the full avi and mpg working exactly how im i doing this again. Does having a gray import also matter coz maybe it might not yet be updated.
Watch this video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKXo9UZOX2k
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Okay seems like some of you got the full avi and mpg working exactly how im i doing this again. Does having a gray import also matter coz maybe it might not yet be updated.
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Nope. It's only a matter of the program you're using. You can get the last free version of core player, plus the AC3 plugin from this website:
http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/test/
The AC3 plugin has a readme on how to install it.
I'm not sure if the plugin will work with the version you have if it's different. But you might try installing this version, then running the video for comparison.
Just for your information - the HTC touch version benchmarked that video at 105% without audio but only at 78% with audio. I'm concerned that if you benchmark the Diamond and it gets worse results than my 416mhz 6700 - then the drivers are still screwed up.
If badman can't run this test, can someone else do so?
I think it'd be useful to everyone to know how this phone benchmarks vs. the 6700, HTC Touch, and even the HTC Tytn II. In light of the "class action" issues with HTC/Qualcomm video drivers - I would think everyone would want to know if the same problems exist with the new Diamond.
P0ll0L0c0 said:
If badman can't run this test, can someone else do so?
I think it'd be useful to everyone to know how this phone benchmarks vs. the 6700, HTC Touch, and even the HTC Tytn II. In light of the "class action" issues with HTC/Qualcomm video drivers - I would think everyone would want to know if the same problems exist with the new Diamond.
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I've been trying to run this test for you but the player keeps crashing with an 'Unexpected program failure' message. It was working when I first installed it, but now it's gone weird.
Sorry!
No worries, I appreciate the effort. It's a shame that the player won't work for you? Have you tried uninstalling then reinstalling?
I also realized that there's other factors involved in making a head to head comparison. The most important being a VGA screen vs. a QVGA screen in the other devices.
Yes I've tried uninstalling and re-installing, both on the device and in the internal storage.
The video wasplaying OK, then when I went to run the test it had stopped working. Most annoying.
who needs AC3 for a mobile device?
its just puts unnecessary load on the cpu and you gain next to nothing...
It was actually the AC3 plugin that was causing the application to crash. I've removed that and now I can play the video but obviously don't get any sound.
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That would be REALLY good if sound were enabled . . . I did a similar test with the 6700 and the Touch - and the Touch was able to get similar results when the user disabled sound. Obviously, when sound was enabled - their results became terrible. I'm hoping your Diamond is still trying to work with sound, and the results reflect what you'd see during actual usage. I'm using TCPMP with the AC3 plugin.
Let me post results from my 6700:
624mhz (XCPUScalar)
Average speed: 131.91%
Bench Frame Rate: 31.63
Sample Rate: 63565
Bench Data Rate: 2.1MB/S
416mhz
Average speed: 109.58%
Bench Frame Rate: 26.27
Sample Rate: 52744
Bench Data Rate: 1.8MB/S
Can you either enable the AC3 plugin, or find another online video I can access - that you can actually play? I'd love to test and make sure we're comparing performance at the same task. I'm concerned that HTC may not have their video drivers straightened out. That's the only thing keeping me from considering an "upgrade".
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OK, finally got it working. I had to install the AC3 plugin before the application which seems a bit odd to me. Anyway, here are the results. Note that this is with a tweaked Diamond, using the tweaks found on here to speed up TouchFlo etc. Only thing running was the phone radio.
Average speed: 79.34%
Bench Frame Rate: 19:02
Sample Rate: 38094
Bench Data Rate: 1.3MB/S
So, pretty poor really.
Ouch, that's a shame. :-(
That could either mean that the video drivers aren't being properly implemented yet - or they have been, but outputting video to a VGA screen is too much for the device to handle. I know that's been the case when trying to play emulators on powerful VGA devices. I'm sorry to hear the results, regardless. Thank you very much for running that benchmark - I believe more people than I would be appreciative of the results.
BTW - the only reason AC3 is a useful implementation, is that many of us already have A LOT of video files on our computer at full resolution and with AC3. Encoding usually takes a minimum of an hour - so it's not useful to just grab and go. With my 6700 I can upload a movie on the run at any time.
If you're happy converting movies, it's by far the most efficient way to go with regards to PDA storage and processing power. That's just not terribly useful for a lot of users like me.
Bumped for reference with a bencharking thread.
well, i bought an X1 about 3 weeks ago and it is undoubtedly the best phone i have ever owned, the only problem i am having with it is the video playback.
Since i download DIVx movies, i would like to just stick them in my X1 and watch them at full speed. I tried using core player but since it is not hardware accelerated, i could only watch the movies in medium quality which is MUCH worse than the high quality and if i set at high quality i get only 80% speed.
And i see people trying to get the best possible conversion settings in order to be able to play high quality videos on the Media Panel or on Media Player. I find this useless since it takes FOREVER to actually convert videos and since i have so many, it would be a very tedious task.
I have a possible solution for this and i have no clue how to actually do this so this is my request to the brilliant developers here,
Is there a way to actually get the divx codec somehow from the samsung omnia and port it to other devices like X1 and seveal HTCs??? I mean i think it is theoretically possible since ppl have actualy gotten the Omnia ATI drivers right???
Hope this works!!!
I guess you could just download the divx mobile player from
http://labs.divx.com/MobileCommunity
I haven't used it in x1 but I did use it in the touch pro. I did not like the speed. As it wasn't my phone, I didn't bother to do any tweaks. I think it will be fine on the x1.
maybe i can help
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well, i bought an X1 about 3 weeks ago and it is undoubtedly the best phone i have ever owned, the only problem i am having with it is the video playback.
Since i download DIVx movies, i would like to just stick them in my X1 and watch them at full speed. I tried using core player but since it is not hardware accelerated, i could only watch the movies in medium quality which is MUCH worse than the high quality and if i set at high quality i get only 80% speed.
And i see people trying to get the best possible conversion settings in order to be able to play high quality videos on the Media Panel or on Media Player. I find this useless since it takes FOREVER to actually convert videos and since i have so many, it would be a very tedious task.
I have a possible solution for this and i have no clue how to actually do this so this is my request to the brilliant developers here,
Is there a way to actually get the divx codec somehow from the samsung omnia and port it to other devices like X1 and seveal HTCs??? I mean i think it is theoretically possible since ppl have actualy gotten the Omnia ATI drivers right???
Hope this works!!!
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well there are a lot of factors here, and im certainly no expert, but ill give this a whirl...
i have had my xperia for just about a month now and i have been watching divx movies on my coreplayer at high video quality flawlessly. or so i thought.. I watched some pretty fast paced movies too, like the matrix... and they seemed fine to me. again i dont know if any of my suggestions will make anydifference, or even be relavent to you, but i figured i could at least try to help. I will share what i found in general with my x1 and the core player
1. the x1 is highly tweakable in so many ways. I dont know how much youve looked around at how people are speeding it up using sktools, or the now famous storage card accelerator, but these things really do help. you should try them and see if you get any improvement. here is the link to the thread where this is all going down... to make it simple.. get skt tools, optimize, and get the sd card accelerator... the rest you can mess with at your own pace, but this will give you a big start.... anyway if you havent tried this stuff.. it may help..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459328&highlight=show
2. god knows the coreplayer has so many $*$#* options... but here is something i noticed deep in the canyons of the player after my core player was bogging down horrendously for apparently no reason.... i have a lot of files on my sd card, and when i first opened the core player... the first few times even.. it lagged so much i couldnt figure out why... then i realized it was trying to scan my sd card and it wasnt really teling me it was doing this... there is an option that comes selected as default that tells the coreplayer to scan for files for its library on startup... if you have thousands of files like i did, and you didnt realize it was trying to build a library, like i didnt, and you opend and closed it several times... ok you get the point.. once it finally built its library, i found the option to turn off the auto scan, and boom,... suddenly it was working much much faster
3. i dont know if this makes any difference whatsoever, but i have an x1i, and i bet you do too, but if you have an x1a, there may be video playback differences in these "international" and "US" models that could be a factor too.
im guessing that what you are referring to, and what i have posted may not even relate, but it never hurts to try. FYI i just benchmarked for a minute or so while watching a divx movie and it read average somewhere in the 80% range... i dont know what that means, but the movie seemed to be plaing perfectly...
div x player
just tried the divx player to see how it compared to the core player...
core player works much better.... divx player was quite choppy.
maybe im missing something.. and i probably am, but the core player seems to be playing the divx movies perfectly at high quality
well, i have tried the divx player and it is absolute crap compared to coreplayer
benchmarking at 80 percent means that u skip about 1-2 frames every second. now might sound like much but i notice it and it is very annying. yes i have tried all the things u mentioned but did not notice much change except for with the memory card booster.
also the media panel and media player are hardware accelerated which means that they make use of the onboard ati graphics chip. coreplayer is not. also imagine watching a divx movie on the media panel wouldnt that be cool?? with the great interface and the speed and smoothness of the bond trailer?? i would very much like that. hope someone can get the codec somehow!
i see
thanks for the education. i guess ignorance was bliss on my part..
i hope we do find a solution here. any idea why the downloaded divx player works so poorly? maybe its tweakable?
I guess it simply sucks. Coreplayer is best player, and unfortunately by far margin. Unfortunately because there is low chance any other player will popup soon. Sooner or later Coreplayer will find a way to follow current devices.
Btw. be sure you use Coreplayer with TytnII qTV driver (should be default settings for 1.3). You can also disable AVC filter and high quality zoom. Other then that nothing really has effect on the playback speed.
The best player.
But almost half new movies are in AC3 format.
And CorePlayer don't support AC3.
core player team claim that they will support all qtv shipset in version 2
so just have to wait a litte while
ahhhhh thanks fo the info Tywith, thats definitely something to look forward to. i mean if im not mistaken, the TytnII does not have an ati chipset built in. having support for qtv chipset dedicated to XPERIA will definitely make it run smoother
all we have to do is wait.
Look at this sticky: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467590
If you convert your movies to mp4 you can play your movies using media player with hardware acceleration. You can create a joblist to convert multiple movies when you're sleeping
If you wanna use CorePlayer with hardware acceleration, use the DirectDraw in
Settings > Video. I've tried it and it works perfectly. It really takes full advantage of the Adreno 200 GPU (ATI 3D chip) and CPU.
Hammerhead89 said:
If you wanna use CorePlayer with hardware acceleration, use the DirectDraw in
Settings > Video. I've tried it and it works perfectly. It really takes full advantage of the Adreno 200 GPU (ATI 3D chip) and CPU.
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Maybe it takes full advantage of the Adreno 200, but Xperia X1 has Adreno 130 which is much weaker than 200
radzix27 said:
Maybe it takes full advantage of the Adreno 200, but Xperia X1 has Adreno 130 which is much weaker than 200
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DAmn!!!! But still works nice!!
Hammerhead89 said:
DAmn!!!! But still works nice!!
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which version of coreplayer are you using?
1.3.6 didn't have hw-acceleration for playback. sure, on a good rom and with video-files not being too demanding, playback was nice -> sw-playback. but it didn't support our hw directly. and from what i can see, 1.3.6 is the last version for winmo.
btw, funny to see they closed forums on their site. probably too many threads "when will you finally deliver what you promised?" and accuses of coreguy producing vaporware...
hey people ive spent weeks trying to play a smooth video on my x1 so far everything i done had failed whether it was wmp or tcpmp or even coreplayer,read almost every post tried almost every converter and pretty still stuck seems as if my old tytn plays videos smoother so i can only hope coreplayer releases a new version soon! if anyone knows anything please post thanks
Zeyn Karim said:
hey people ive spent weeks trying to play a smooth video on my x1 so far everything i done had failed whether it was wmp or tcpmp or even coreplayer,read almost every post tried almost every converter and pretty still stuck seems as if my old tytn plays videos smoother so i can only hope coreplayer releases a new version soon! if anyone knows anything please post thanks
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What ROM do you use?
I am able to play the Bond trailer (.mp4) without problems, with WMP and TCPMP.
Link to TCPMP:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634951
im using the pheonix rom build 56502 WWE. is this tcpmp any better than the latest coreplayer? because so far coreplayer played videos better than wmp and tcpmp although it was still laggy maybe it's my drivers but im using the omina driver and get a better benchmark than the rest with sktools 792 to be exact
i've been using the video encoder provided in the sticky and it has by far surpassed all other video encoders that i've used. it takes advantage of the hardware acceleration in the X1 but the only video app that uses it is WMP and the Media Panel.
azian_advanced said:
i've been using the video encoder provided in the sticky and it has by far surpassed all other video encoders that i've used. it takes advantage of the hardware acceleration in the X1 but the only video app that uses it is WMP and the Media Panel.
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I don't know bout you but using that encoder takes 6 to 7 hours and sometimes it freezes, I don't have the time and patience for that. @ Zeyn Karim I have a collection of video drivers that might maybe improve your performance. Not 100% sure it will but I guess it won't hurt to try.
tried and failed with that converter lol even waited a whole night to encode only to be dissapointed the next morning.
anyway thanks guys for the support and drivers will run couple tests and let ya know the results hopefully this will solve my problem not sure why but my media player doesn't seem to run as good as everyone claims it does, i should remove the omina driver lets hope that's the problem
tried every driver and no luck! looks like i'll never be able to watch anything on my xperia! so i give up! stupid coreplayer! what's taking them so long! been reading up and looks like they rather work on the stupid UI instead of focus on HW support! i don't care if coreplayer looks crap! only thing i want is a smooth crisp video is that too much to ask! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Yeah I'm kinda disappointed as well. I was watching a lot of videos on my old wm 5.0 smartphone but the Xperia fails. I activated "Raw FrameBuffer" and videos got smoother - still don't think thats what you are looking for...(only tried out fairly low quality movies...)
Zeyn Karim said:
tried every driver and no luck! looks like i'll never be able to watch anything on my xperia! so i give up! stupid coreplayer! what's taking them so long! been reading up and looks like they rather work on the stupid UI instead of focus on HW support! i don't care if coreplayer looks crap! only thing i want is a smooth crisp video is that too much to ask! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684106
This version of TCMP I get video playback in GDI mode very smooth I watched Shutter Island on it with no lag.
Yeah,my old tytn may not have been the best phone in the world but atleast i could watch some of my favourite shows whenever i felt like.
thanks viper89 will test out the tcpmp,glad to see youve been watching something on your x1,can you please state which encoder you used and are you also using the omina driver?
Zeyn Karim said:
Yeah,my old tytn may not have been the best phone in the world but atleast i could watch some of my favourite shows whenever i felt like.
thanks viper89 will test out the tcpmp,glad to see youve been watching something on your x1,can you please state which encoder you used and are you also using the omina driver?
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I actually didn't encode the video, I don't watch movies that much so I really don't bother with encoding and the one that is stickied takes ages to encode . The video drivers that are installed in my phone are:Chainfire-HD2-3D-Driver-Patch-2.0( not sure if this has any effect in are phones),Chainfire-TG01-D3DM( not sure if this any effect either lol),Driver_Ati d3d, SJ SamsungOmnia_Driver_D3D and optxperiabeta02( It makes the sound in the X1 louder but it also said that it changes the video driver to.)
Wow you installed all of them! what's your benchmark with sktools? and does the "optxperiabeta02" damage your speaker in any way? if not could you please post it thanks,Is it a noticable difference?
Zeyn Karim said:
Wow you installed all of them! what's your benchmark with sktools? and does the "optxperiabeta02" damage your speaker in any way? if not could you please post it thanks,Is it a noticable difference?
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My Sktool benchmark is: Integer 331, Floating Point 7.71, Draw Bitmaps 656. Also a important fact is it also depends on your rom Stock or none Stock and if it's 6.1 or 6.5 and if your running Sense 2.5 in your rom(which I am), so my stats most likely would be higher in a stock 6.1 rom. I've had my phone for 8 month and been using optxperiabeta02 for 7 month and no speaker damage. And it makes a hell of a noticeable difference lol.
my benchmark is integer 331, floating point 7.47 ,ram access 1519 , draw bitmaps 800 , main write 11070 ,main read 17066 still have no idea why im having video problems.by the way im running 6.1 with manilla 2.5 sense
Zeyn Karim said:
my benchmark is integer 331, floating point 7.47 ,ram access 1519 , draw bitmaps 800 , main write 11070 ,main read 17066 still have no idea why im having video problems.by the way im running 6.1 with manilla 2.5 sense
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Hmm draw bitmaps 800 nice. It might because your on 6.1 oppose to my 6.5. Your still having videos problems playing videos in GDI mode in TCMP?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/
showthread.php?t=684106 havnt got a chance to test yet but will try as soon as i get time did you try kinoma play? im interested to find out hows the playback. damn coreplayer if only they would support our HW id would be so awesome!
Guys there is really a simple answer to this thread: There is only one solution for decent video playback on Xperia X1. Convert your movies to mp4 (h264 avc codec, max. resolution 800 * 480, bitrate 600 kbps) and play them in WMP or Media Xperience Panel (I prefer the latter). You can either use the converter provided by xda (projection) or any other software that supports this codec. There might be some differences in duration of a convertion and it is definitely dependant on your computer's specs (processor) but generally converting videos is a time consuming task and 6 - 7 hours isn't really inappropriate for entire movies (2-3 hours). Everything else won't work. Coreplayer, Pocketplayer, Kinoma etc. do not support hw acceleration and thus 480 * 320 is the maximum resolution that can be played back using those players. If you want high quality movies (what is definitely possible on the Xperia X1) you will have to face convertion to the right format. There aren't any drivers that do miracles and there aren't any insider tips. Only convertion will do the trick.
thank you altae for those bad/good news
Maybe I'm missing something. I've never had any problems playing videos or movies on my X1. Just rewatched Princess Blade on it the other day, in fact.
The truth can sometimes be hard But let's stay serious: It's a pity that WMP or Media Xperience Panel do not support more codecs especially the very widely used xvid/dvix codecs.
But the positive news are: It's definitely possible to play high quality movies as long as they are in the right format. And for all the short videos you would like to show a friend you have always the possibility to play divx/xvid movies in 480 * 320 which isn't that bad for this purpose.