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Is there possible software out there in the form of our cab install files that are spyware? Is it possible for people to see what we are doing in our phones and pocketpcpdas? like a logging tracking type of software imbeded in our device which tells people what we are doing? what we are downloading..etc..etc..just like how the government can listen to our phone calls. Are possibley our favorite applications such as microsoft live/live search ot tomTom7 tracking software which is telling companies or the government what we are doing on our devices? like how Skyfire can log what you are doing with their web browser through their servers...
....just wanted to know if its possible and has anybody heard of such things
There have been trojans in the wild for pocket pc - the Brador.A trojan did open a backdoor exploit to allow remote access to a device. And there have been other nasty things for Palm.
But, they've been really rare, and mostly proof of concept kind of things. I'd say the far greater risk is that, if you use *.exe installers from your desktop or laptop to put software on your mobile, that the desktop or laptop could become infected by something seeded in the *.exe file.
So, always scan any installers, ideally as you download (ie. with and AV app integrated with your browser, like Norton) before you execute them. When docked to your PC, you can also scan your mobile - I use Vista on one of my machines at home, and dock my Tilt to it without setting it up, so it's just like any other mass storage device. Norton will scan it like any other drive or storage device.
moegdaog said:
Is there possible software out there in the form of our cab install files that are spyware? Is it possible for people to see what we are doing in our phones and pocketpcpdas? like a logging tracking type of software imbeded in our device which tells people what we are doing? what we are downloading..etc..etc..just like how the government can listen to our phone calls. Are possibley our favorite applications such as microsoft live/live search ot tomTom7 tracking software which is telling companies or the government what we are doing on our devices? like how Skyfire can log what you are doing with their web browser through their servers...
....just wanted to know if its possible and has anybody heard of such things
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While this is not "spyware" it certainly does what spyware would do - right? report without your knowing it what the phone user was doing?
http://www.pocketpc-live.com/pocketpc-softwares/ultimate-theft-alert-v3-for-pocket-pcs.html
Bill
Yep... but usually it's yourself installing that thing so I wouldn't qualify it as spyware...
Unless someone grabs your phone from you and installs the software against you without you knowing it
Anything is possible when you put your mind to it. I bet if you talked to enough coders you'd find one that would help you write Spyware.
Possible? Yes. Probable? No.
o ok..just wanted to get some general knowledgeon this subject cuz i would hate to have to worry about trojans on my pda maaan.
moegdaog said:
o ok..just wanted to get some general knowledgeon this subject cuz i would hate to have to worry about trojans on my pda maaan.
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Now - Let's say that you were oh say Chinese - and that you knew that LOTS of foreigners were coming over for say - oh - a lot of games - would you PAY someone to put spyware on their phones?
hmmmm. . . MAYBE...
Just a thought...
Bill
Does anyone know a way to scan a PPC/WM6 cab file for viruses using a PC? I do not really want to install any AV on the cell (slowing it down more).
Thanks!
Well the best way to avoid viruses is to only get content from trusted sources
But the only way to be sure I guess is to find a program like 7zip or another program that supports extracting CABs and then scan the files.
I have Sophos installed on my PC - if I right hand click on the cab I can scan it.....
Perhaps not the same for other PC anti virus software?
i thought malware that attacks WinMo is so rare and infrequent that it is almost pointless to have antivirus software for your ppc...i could be wrong but that is the impression i have acquired so far after more than 1 year of heavy use of windows mobile
because cab files are meant for your ppc, i think it is highly unlikely that they will be infected by malware (that can attack your ppc) in the first place
finally, i'm not certain most DESKTOP antivirus software would even detect malware meant for the MOBILE
(all of the above is pure conjecture based on some observations and practical experience)
ASCIIker said:
i thought malware that attacks WinMo is so rare and infrequent that it is almost pointless to have antivirus software for your ppc...i could be wrong but that is the impression i have acquired so far after more than 1 year of heavy use of windows mobile
because cab files are meant for your ppc, i think it is highly unlikely that they will be infected by malware (that can attack your ppc) in the first place
finally, i'm not certain most DESKTOP antivirus software would even detect malware meant for the MOBILE
(all of the above is pure conjecture based on some observations and practical experience)
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That is all correct. I actually bought a 1 year license for Norton Smartphone Security, and one of its cooler features was to see all of the mobile viruses there were definitions for in its database. 12. There were 12 mobile viruses, maybe a few more by now. And most of them were for Symbian, so there were maybe one or two viruses natively for WM (and one asked you if you wanted your device infected or not!). There were also a couple java ones, but all of the mobile viruses came from obscure, malicious sites you shouldn't go to anyway!
It's just not even worth worrying about mobile viruses, you're most likely never going to encounter one (at least if things stay like they are now).
Dave
Agreed. Smartphone security is really not a risk at all right now, it's too obvious when something is installing and too hard to accomplish it without being detected.
Just worry about your PC and your smartphone will be fine
Ok so this is the scenario i have 2 computer at 2 different locations (Home and Office). On my main computer there is software which i would like to use on my another computer simultaneously. Like i am using the software on my home computer(Main PC) and brother wants to use the same software at our office, so i have created 2 users on my main PC and i would like my brother to use 2nd user to login remotely and use that software. Let me tell software has capability to be used at 2 place simultaneously.
Waiting for your help
Thankyou
Omg is that so much difficult, ,, no reply yet.
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umm, yeah its possible. all you need is a citrix server ( or similar ), i think there area few bits of software that do work on desktop machines. but i can't remember any of the top of my head. i know i have iraap for my mac, i will take a quick look for you now. But a quick warning if you wanting to do this over the internet. its going to be much harder working out port forwarding ETC over doing it in a lan enviroment. so you possible could use hamachi. ok i'll get back to you in a bit.
and yes this is quite an advanced thing todo. what your technically trying to do is create a server in which multiple members can connect to and do things simultaneously. so your not going to want to do this very much as it will cause a reasonable amount of strain on your system and certainly slow it down. if you are going to do this alot i would recommend investing on a cheap server
ok check this out, fire me off a pm if you need any help. i'm happy to help
Unless your computer is setup as a server (or hacked to allow so) you're only allowed one desktop connection at a time?
Please someone correct me if I am wrong?
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Unless your computer is setup as a server (or hacked to allow so) you're only allowed one desktop connection at a time?
Please someone correct me if I am wrong?
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just thought you might be intrested. i believe normally a windows machine will allow remote desktop connections, which means you can control the computer from another machine, very much similar as vnc. but a terminal server (citrix) allows multiple users to connect and run completely seperate sessions, but there are program that run the services needed to run terminal server witout a full blown server operating system.
just thought i would clear this up for you
I udnerstand that part, but as his PC is likely to be a standalone windows enviroment, and with him working on it, his brother will not be able to log in from the second location, as standard, due to that policy. I know there is a dll that can be hacked to allow it though. I have an understanding the RDP side, but he is using a windows machine not a terminal server/virtualised server etc, so from my perspective, his question was is it possible as is, not how do I make this possible by throwing money at it.
captainstu72 said:
I udnerstand that part, but as his PC is likely to be a standalone windows enviroment, and with him working on it, his brother will not be able to log in from the second location, as standard, due to that policy. I know there is a dll that can be hacked to allow it though. I have an understanding the RDP side, but he is using a windows machine not a terminal server/virtualised server etc, so from my perspective, his question was is it possible as is, not how do I make this possible by throwing money at it.
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no these are completely free peices of software that require no dll hacking, they create there own server services that replicate terminal services.
Thanks for the help slamming, but i must tell you i am a noob concerning this.
I have checked out the link. Can you be more specific without all the jargons how should i go about achieving it,i would be really grateful.
samy.3660 said:
Thanks for the help slamming, but i must tell you i am a noob concerning this.
I have checked out the link. Can you be more specific without all the jargons how should i go about achieving it,i would be really grateful.
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ok well, what your are wanting to create is a terminal server, this is used alot in enterprise and it allows multiple user to connect to the same machine and use all the same applications and share data. But in enterprise they will use a machine called a thin client, this machine will boot straight from the network and connect to the terminal server. but you aren't going to want to buy a thin client so you are going to have to download another application on the second computer. but we will come to that later. what i think would be a good idea is if you were to read up on terminal services, terminal servers and maybe even thin cleints, as i think you do need to be able to understand the majority of the jargon that is going to be used. i would recommend you don't under take this task if you don't have quite abit of time or aren't confident in your IT skills
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ok well, what your are wanting to create is a terminal server, this is used alot in enterprise and it allows multiple user to connect to the same machine and use all the same applications and share data. But in enterprise they will use a machine called a thin client, this machine will boot straight from the network and connect to the terminal server. but you aren't going to want to buy a thin client so you are going to have to download another application on the second computer. but we will come to that later. what i think would be a good idea is if you were to read up on terminal services, terminal servers and maybe even thin cleints, as i think you do need to be able to understand the majority of the jargon that is going to be used. i would recommend you don't under take this task if you don't have quite abit of time or aren't confident in your IT skills
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Ok i will learn it by tommorow all i could about terminal services, and do you think if there is a software available which will be able to this, preferably free, or if not i wont mind paying for it.
Thankyou.
samy.3660 said:
Ok i will learn it by tommorow all i could about terminal services, and do you think if there is a software available which will be able to this, preferably free, or if not i wont mind paying for it.
Thankyou.
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alright then while your learning about terminal server, i will begin looking into software for you for both ends both server and cleint.
I have a paid-for IP windows program, only 2,7 mb. Is there a way that I can install it on my Windows Mobile?
Any suggestions would be most welcome.
12OF
You mean you have a paid-for Windows program that runs on your PC? Might as well ask whether you can install a Mac OS X program on your iPhone. The answer is no. There are multiple reasons.
Now, it's possible that the company which made that program has a phone app version in the store. Have you checked? Alternatively, have you contacted them to ask about using the service on your phone?
I just want to say that it has always bothered me that people say Windows is attacked more because it's more popular.
What a load of horse****.
Windows is attacked more because it's easier for viruses to actually run. A windows machine is infected far more readily than Linux - it's pretty bleeping hard for a virus to run in Linux. In fact, until fairly recently - there was only 1 virus for Linux and that was proof of concept.
As far as I understand it, there are a few viruses (a virus, actually) that exist that will run in Linux these days. I have never run an anti-virus on my Linux system and I never will. Waste of system resources, unnecessary. There is actually an antivus for Linux - I think it's called clam. You would ONLY install and use it if windows machines were on your lan.
Viruses aren't as big a problem as they once were - but windows machines were/are targets because windows makes it easy not because windows is popular. Po;ular helps, but, Linux runs everything except your desktop - it's pretty popular.
I would agree only that clam/clamTK is basically just an email scanning tool (it only scans for windows viruses) and you would only need to really worry about messing with it on servers that are shipping things to and from windows and not just on your LAN (like an email server)
Linux does have viruses but not like windows they take the form of rootkits which I would recommend any Linux user run rootkit scanners every once and a while to make sure your system is clean. You can also use SELinux if you're really worried about things. Fedora has that enabled by default.
I totally agree with you though that it is pretty hard to get viruses on a Linux box that effect that Linux box or other network devices. Linux is used everywhere; servers, IOT devices, embedded systems, routers, everywhere. It's the most popular OS for everything but desktops where windows has most of that market share
Inideed, and, thanks for clarifying Clam. In fact, you just reminded me to run rkhunter.
The point is always: you need some sort of interaction if you want your malware to be run. And if you got an interaction with a Linux desktop user, you can try to make them run e.g. a shell bomb instead of a virus. Having some 2% of market share the Linux desktop user is simply not attractive. Otherwise there would be much more sophisticated shell bomb designs, exploiting e.g. zerodays to pull some nifty data.
But on Android you usually can't do that, because on stock ROMs the shell is pretty useless. Plus most of the interesting data is in the cloud anyway, so it's easier to put your malware into an app or attack the server.
A seemingly full list of past linux malware may be found here (Wikipedia, "Linux Malware" article).
AFAIK, a well patched system should be secure.
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I just want to say that it has always bothered me that people say Windows is attacked more because it's more popular.
What a load of horse****.
Windows is attacked more because it's easier for viruses to actually run. A windows machine is infected far more readily than Linux - it's pretty bleeping hard for a virus to run in Linux. In fact, until fairly recently - there was only 1 virus for Linux and that was proof of concept.
As far as I understand it, there are a few viruses (a virus, actually) that exist that will run in Linux these days. I have never run an anti-virus on my Linux system and I never will. Waste of system resources, unnecessary. There is actually an antivus for Linux - I think it's called clam. You would ONLY install and use it if windows machines were on your lan.
Viruses aren't as big a problem as they once were - but windows machines were/are targets because windows makes it easy not because windows is popular. Po;ular helps, but, Linux runs everything except your desktop - it's pretty popular.
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bro, could u give me the url/resources of that linux virus ?
"...here was only 1 virus for Linux and that was proof of concept.."
Well, as I referred above, I think he is mistaken.
Anyway, a frequently updated Linux workstation, not configured to be publicly accessible from the Internet, should be very secure.
I’m sure I never have gotten a virus but there’s a possibility that I did in 2015 when I first began using Linux after that windows 10 dumpster fire. Basically on Ubuntu 14.04 lts I installed a deb package thinking it was a conky widget and after a few minutes of wondering why my widget wasn’t there I realized my personal files in my home folder were all of a sudden deleting themselves. I removed the package just kept having these issues and didn’t go away until I reinstalled the os. It did ask for root access on reboot and only typed it in once but kept having some weird system daemon ask for my password on reboot when it didn’t do that before. Reinstalling of course fixed the issue but lost files and important files from it. Not lying either as I just started out on Linux and was a noob, and mainly used the gui until 2016-17 for installing packages on it and navigating the system. My fault as I should have done more research, but never had something like that happened again thankfully. Still using Linux to this day but still duel boot windows and Debian testing. Hopefully things get better in gaming performance which is almost there and can completely switch. Glad this new pc software and hardware section was added. Also used to work at a place called wireless solutions in Mid West City Oklahoma and found this website useful through out the few months I works there, this job I had as a High School student was repairing smartphones mainly iOS and android based devices. Glad to see this forum site continue to grow, it has been a while since I have been on here so not sure when the computing section was added. Also I just created an account recently as when I had this job mainly just went on here as a guest without an account.
I will say Linux seems to usually get a bit better fps and generally better performance over all, on my new hp pavilion eh1070wm laptop. I’m getting off topic so getting off for now as of typing, have a wonderful night if your in CST.