Major bug with french Bouygues Telecom - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hello,
I went to my store to buy a Tytn II Fr (Azerty keyboard).
Luckily, they warned me there was a pb with some mobile operators. SFR (vodaphone) was said to be OK, but not Bouygues neither Orange.
The bug? everything works allright, you can place calls. But whenever you receive an incoming call, the phone reboots...
I went on the internet and found some posts telling the same.
The vendor told that HTC was freaking and that 10 HTC technicians came to try and find the reason. No luck this far.
They don't know if a ROM update would suffice.
I do wonder how a SIM can damage in such a way a device working great with the great majority of operators.
Anyone has a clue?
Have a good one.

seems right:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330119
Mike

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E-Mail from HTC europe

i received this e-mail this weekend in regards to my breeze always dropping calls. it refers to a new update but only via the support centre
Good Morning,
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The fact that your calls drops is?not normal, if it does that you should try
to Hard reset the device.
If the hard reset doesn't sort the issue you will need to send the phone to
repair.
Note: hard reset will delete all data from the device, you need to save your
personnal files and synchronize your device first.
I can confirm we have recently released a new ROM update for the Mteor.
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Due to the complex nature of this ROM update we will not be offering this
download via our website. Instead we are offering it through our network of
repair centres.
?
From the information you have provided your local repair centre are:
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HTC Europe Co.Ltd
Communications House
Presley Way
Crownhill
Milton Keynes
MK8 0ES
+44 (0) 1908 55 64 64
Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html
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Best regards,
Lena
HTC Europe
[email protected]
does anyone know what the turn around time from being received to being sent out from HTC is?
in regards to a software update and a repair/replacement which would include any tests they'ed need to do.
thanks
HI, just try to deactivate the Umts Bandselection... means don't choose Auto .... just try GSM only....
i have Problems to when have activated the AUTO feature...
steve
i have done, thought it fixed it for a whole day aswell, however it seems to make it happen less but it still happens a few times a day
well got the phone back, they actually replaced it so got a new 1 out of the mix and the fact i bought it off ebay second hand - bonus!
the dropping of calls still occurs but it seems its the 3G orange payg sim i have. i will try and get a new one out of orange on saturday and see if that works, i know its the sim as i tried a orange 2G payg sim and it has no problems whatsoever
so its oranges fault and HTC's for not making it work correctly with the sim.
Dan
No new rom on it then? ;p
the rom had a .3 at the end of it instead of .1
the radio was the same too.
My MTeoR arrived today. I also have a "3G sim" or whatever they are.. the one that came with my Nokia N95. That same sim has worked perfectly in my E50 for the past three months, but in the MTeoR I am frequently being disconnected during calls, and even when the phone is off-call, the display changed from "3G Orange" to "No Service" quite frequently.
This is no good
wow, i know it doesn't help its nice to know its not just me breaking the phone like i seem to do to everything electrical
by the way t-mobile, vodafone sims i have work fine in 3g mode, its obviously a orange problem. i have e-mailed them again asking if its a common problem. all i can say is you do the same and maybe our collective voices will be heard.

No-one one here experienced the 3G bug then?

This is a problem where you have an apparently good 3G signal BUT you cannot make or receive calls or texts and you can't establish a data connection. There is no obvious sign that you are in this state until you try to call, text or access data.
The "solution" from T-Mobile in the UK is to force the phone "band" setting from Auto to GSM, then it works. But of course its not a solution as you lose 3G.
If you are at work with a 3 icon on your phone, just try calling it from your desk and see if you get straight to voicemail or not.
After discussions with T-Mobile they are sending me a replacement handset but if the postings in Modaco are anything to go by then I am not alone in this.
What is not clear is whether this is restricted to:
1. The T-Mobile UK network
2. The T-Mobile UK Vario III firmware
3. A combination of the above
4. A general design fault with some Kaiser's
This is being discussed in the Modaco forums but I couldn't find any mention here.
I make dozens of calls, and send around 50+ SMS a day.
No problems in the last month.
I am an Australian Kaiser owner running on the Three network.
ROM: 1.81.861.0 WWE
Hi there,
I have the same issue on T-Mobile in Germany.
What I have not been able to figure out is if the phone works again after a while or if one needs to reset (as I always do).
Regards,
Martin
I have tried soft resets and even a hard reset and it appears to be random whether it starts working again. This seems to be same experience as the Modaco users.
thinksmart said:
Hi there,
I have the same issue on T-Mobile in Germany.
What I have not been able to figure out is if the phone works again after a while or if one needs to reset (as I always do).
Regards,
Martin
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mbriody said:
This is a problem where you have an apparently good 3G signal BUT you cannot make or receive calls or texts and you can't establish a data connection. There is no obvious sign that you are in this state until you try to call, text or access data.
What is not clear is whether this is restricted to:
1. The T-Mobile UK network
2. The T-Mobile UK Vario III firmware
3. A combination of the above
4. A general design fault with some Kaiser's
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Well, I worked for T-Mobile UK recently and had the very same issue on my Vario II, even whilst at work where there was a large mast and the 3G coverage was the strongest in the country.
on further investigation, everyone else in the area had the same issue. sometimes it would work ok, a lot of the time i had to manually set to 2G just to be able to use the phone functions.
in T-Mob we could check the strength of various 2 & 3G signals by postcode, and the signal in the area was very strong, with no outstanding work issues or problems (according to our system)
was never able to figure out why this was happening, and nobody was able to answer the questions.
so -
seems to be T-Mob UK (perhaps just in various areas at various times), and is not limited to your Kaiser / Vario, so at least you can relax cos it's not a faulty phone
Thanks for the very useful post. Unfortunately that doesn't give us a solution. If this cannot be fixed then T-Mobile is useless for me.
Dr J said:
was never able to figure out why this was happening, and nobody was able to answer the questions.
so -
seems to be T-Mob UK (perhaps just in various areas at various times), and is not limited to your Kaiser / Vario, so at least you can relax cos it's not a faulty phone
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i've been experiencing the same - no data access when using 3g (whilst showing 2 bars) but connecting fine using gsm.
can anyone point me in the direction of a replacement comm manager with the same icons as the default kaiser but with a 3g switch in the vacant slot ?
i've been looking at a few replacement comm managers but can't seem to find what i'm looking for ...
This is NOT a problem with your Kaiser, replacing your phone will not make a difference. It is problem with your provider's tower hard/software. Strange that T-Mobile has not told you this when you contacted them about it.
T-Mobile in the Netherlands does not have this problem, but the KPN network does. KPN is however in the process of replacing the faulty hardware (or maybe they are already done now, even) and suddenly the problem disappears
Found the solution!!
Hello,
I had the same problem untill one day I inserted my sim card in another phone (a very old nokia - as basic as it gets).
For some reason that I don't know, when I put the sim card back in the TyTN II it was working and keeps on working.
This has happened over a month ago, and I now don't hv a problem.
Try to do the same, see if it works for You
Regards
XTP
Nope, I already tried the SIM in another phone (an SE W880i) and it was okay. I put it back in the Vario III and it still didn't work.
I also tried soft and hard resets.
xtp73 said:
Hello,
I had the same problem untill one day I inserted my sim card in another phone (a very old nokia - as basic as it gets).
For some reason that I don't know, when I put the sim card back in the TyTN II it was working and keeps on working.
This has happened over a month ago, and I now don't hv a problem.
Try to do the same, see if it works for You
Regards
XTP
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i can confirm that this didn't work for me either. :-(
worth a try though ...
I had this with a Hermes on Orange UK a year ago. They admitted that the local cell was faulty and was being fixed and asked me to go to GSM for a week. After a week I switched back and it was fine.
Am now using a Kaiser (O Tytn2) in same location and its fine.
well i know ive been having problems sending mms whenever im on the 3g network, but as soon as i switch to gsm then the mms sends fine!
Chainfire said:
This is NOT a problem with your Kaiser, replacing your phone will not make a difference. It is problem with your provider's tower hard/software. Strange that T-Mobile has not told you this when you contacted them about it.
T-Mobile in the Netherlands does not have this problem, but the KPN network does. KPN is however in the process of replacing the faulty hardware (or maybe they are already done now, even) and suddenly the problem disappears
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This is correct, the problem is indeed not your Tytn II. I've called with a dutch provider (Telfort) which makes use of the KPN network. And it is technically not possible. So we must wait till the provider makes sure this is possible.
I also was surprised that they never told me this in advance. Actually they didn't knew it was an problem till I called them.
Er, exactly what "is not possible"?
3G to 2G switching works fine on my other phone (an HSDPA-enabled Nokia 6120 Classic, on the same network).
So how can this not be handset related? I can see how it could be a combination of the phone and the network but if other handsets can cope then it must be related to the handset in some way.
Incidentally I am now using my replacement Vario III and so far so good but its early days yet.
mlh01 said:
This is correct, the problem is indeed not your Tytn II. I've called with a dutch provider (Telfort) which makes use of the KPN network. And it is technically not possible. So we must wait till the provider makes sure this is possible.
I also was surprised that they never told me this in advance. Actually they didn't knew it was an problem till I called them.
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which ROM versions are experiencing this problem?
I get this in the UK on a Tuesday at around 16:00 and then all is ok after 17:00. If I turn off HSDPA then this does not happen at all.
My view is the T-Mobile network. Being as I know when it happens its not a problem but I think they have time slots for software upgrades etc to the HSDPA side of things and this is when your phone goes into a GSM lockout.
If I keep the phone on 2g then it never happens .
This also happened on my N95 on the same day at the same time also , so i would guess its a network thing
I had this occur again this morning, on the new handset. I tried to call home with a full set of bars and the phone in 3G - the call wouldn't go through.
Switched to 2G, call goes through.
The problem is that when you are in this mode there is no way to tell, without trying to make a call. Your phone is effectively useless as no-one can call or text you and you can't call out. You are blissfully unaware.
This is not an acceptable situation.
wardy said:
I get this in the UK on a Tuesday at around 16:00 and then all is ok after 17:00. If I turn off HSDPA then this does not happen at all.
My view is the T-Mobile network. Being as I know when it happens its not a problem but I think they have time slots for software upgrades etc to the HSDPA side of things and this is when your phone goes into a GSM lockout.
If I keep the phone on 2g then it never happens .
This also happened on my N95 on the same day at the same time also , so i would guess its a network thing
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I have suddenly started to experience this problem on T-Mobile UK, starting last night. It finds a 3G network, but I cannot receive or send calls or SMS. If the network drops to 2G, I can generally receive texts, but it's only if I lower my band to GSM only that I can make or receive calls, or use data.
T-Mobile are generally crappy in my area anyway, my phone is forever flipping between 2 and 3G. Can anyone confirm what 3's coverage is like in south london (stockwell area if possible) and what sort of data/call packages you can get sim-only, as I fear that they may not work out as cheap as T-mobile's.
incidentally, I don't think it's an MDA vario problem as I'm running the TyTn II.

O2 Multicard compatability issues anybody?

Hi!
I have a HTC Tytn II with an O2 Multicard from O2 Germany. About a week ago I started having problems with 3G calling and 3G data. On GSM everything works fine. When I use a Vodafone Germany Sim in my device everything also works as it should. So I guess this could be an issue with this certain kind of SIM and the Kaiser. I am discussing this problem in a different thread already ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335074 ), but wanted to open this thread, to see if anybody else has any issues with his/her O2 Multicard.
BTW: My Hermes (aka. XDA Trion aka. HTC Tytn) shows exactly the same symtoms.
Brevi
TO THE MODERATOR: If this thread should rather be in the "general" forum, please move it.
Same Problem here. Working fine for a month and now i dont recieve calls and internet (3G) is not possible...

How to change SMS Service Centre? Can't send SMS!

Guys,
any idea how to change the SMS service center on Diamond???
when I try to send a SMS I get a message that the message cannot be sent and that I need to check my SMS Service center number.
When I put a different SIM card from the same provider it works normally. Also when I put a SIM card from a different provider everything works OK.
I have searched through Diamond forum and haven't find any relevant information.
However i did notice that people had issues with this one in some other WinMo phones.
I tried 2 ROMs and the same thing happens:
SwiftBL 6.0 and panosha Shine On 1.3
My SIM card works normally in other phones (Samsung etc.)
Any ideas on this one??
Soon I'm gonna start closing instead of moving threads!
Yes i have got the same problem since i have updated the phone to the new 1.93
Since then i turned the phone back to other ROM's but the problem stays.
It is the problem with the Telfort Provider en other providers will send it directly.
Strange problem.
But where is the problem? In the phone or with the provider?
mircha said:
Guys,
any idea how to change the SMS service center on Diamond???
when I try to send a SMS I get a message that the message cannot be sent and that I need to check my SMS Service center number.
When I put a different SIM card from the same provider it works normally. Also when I put a SIM card from a different provider everything works OK.
I have searched through Diamond forum and haven't find any relevant information.
However i did notice that people had issues with this one in some other WinMo phones.
I tried 2 ROMs and the same thing happens:
SwiftBL 6.0 and panosha Shine On 1.3
My SIM card works normally in other phones (Samsung etc.)
Any ideas on this one??
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I had the same problem with 1.93.456_Radio v1.00.25.05
1. Turn back to only stock Radio version (may be Radio v1.00.25.03)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407956
2. Or, change your sim card with a brand new one.
Both solved my problem...
mattijn1980 said:
Yes i have got the same problem since i have updated the phone to the new 1.93
Since then i turned the phone back to other ROM's but the problem stays.
It is the problem with the Telfort Provider en other providers will send it directly.
Strange problem.
But where is the problem? In the phone or with the provider?
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I've got the same problem with a Telfort SIM here in Holland (after flashing from 1.37 stock to custom 1.93 ROM, not sure if it worked on stock). Couldn't find an easy way to change the SMSC myself. It proved hard for me to send an AT+CSCA command to the Diamond. And I haven't found software that uses SmsSetSMSC from the Windows Mobile Version 5.0 SDK. So I could write it myself, but first I'll ask if Telfort will let me try a new SIM and see if it'll send SMS, because I don't want to return to 1.37..
Definitely a new SIM, I don't want to stick to one ROM just because of that...
By the way, provider is Telenor Serbia
Mandragore said:
..but first I'll ask if Telfort will let me try a new SIM and see if it'll send SMS..
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I'm back from the Telfort shop. Showed the girl behind the counter how I couldn't send SMS and change SMS settings. Swapped SIM's. She could send SMS with my SIM on her Nokia and I could send SMS with her SIM on my Diamond.. I'll get a new SIM for free, problem solved.

[Req]Blackstone with O2 Uk

Hello everyone.
I'm beat. I was up to silly o'clock this morning trying to get this thing working.
I purchased to unlocker from this site as I have no posts. I've tried many different roms and radios but I still get no service when I plonk in my o2 sim card.
I have a touch HD that was registered to the orange network that I bought off a friend of mine. I wanted it to work with o2 so I downloaded the unlocker program (paid for) and did all the updating and unlocking that entails.
I then tried a few different roms (even tried win 6.5 but my battrey was getting drained at a silly rate)
The problem I have is that whichever radio I get it's not working with my O2 sim card. I have the little G symbol but it keeps asking for data connection setting and the phone is showing no service. I have even tried radios from other phones with no luck. I'm on the offical htc 1,56,401,0 (43972) WEE rom at the moment and the 1.12.25.16 radio and I'm also getting the greenscreen at the load up but a quick on off fixes that.
I searched the forums but still no joy.
What do I have to do?
Please, you are my only hope.
Thanks in advance.
Do you have the right SPL? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431217)
I used to be Orange, had it unlocked, and am now on o2 with no problems. I use 1.17 radio but I don't think that's the issue
Tried it just now.
Thanks for the advice.
Tried the HSPL Wrapper on that thread, updated the radio to 1.17 but it's still showing no service. Any other ideas?
Thanks again.
did you try put another sim card inside the phone?
I just have O2 cards atm. Still now joy though.
I am a failure.
I've just done a cracking stew in the slow cooker. First time making dumplins. I can rebuild and format a PC in less that two hours but this thing has got me beaten. I suppose I could use it for an e-book reader.
I've now got SPL-1.56.Olnex on there with the blackstonehenge Rom.
and 1.17.25.09 radio but it still won't connect.
If anyone has any better ideas I will make them some stew and dumplins. Geographical location allowing, and if the gf lets me have friends round.
Thanks anyways.
henshu
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521206
@chg1282002
i think the OP said that they have bought this already
i used to be on orange, now on O2.
how old is the O2 simcard? i think this is the most likely cause
Yes, I already purchased the unlocker. I also tried a newer sim card that was a Christmas present. I'll nip out today and get a 99p sim card from another network. Any suggestions which would be best?
Works with vodaphone
Yes, it registers and works with a vodaphone simcard. It also works with t-mobile but I can't send or recive calls on that (mightbe a sim thing with a need to top up or something) But a new o2 PAYG sim card and my old one still bringing up no service.
Anyone got any suggestions about any manual settings I can do?
Cheers,
henshu
henshu said:
Yes, it registers and works with a vodaphone simcard. It also works with t-mobile but I can't send or recive calls on that (mightbe a sim thing with a need to top up or something) But a new o2 PAYG sim card and my old one still bringing up no service.
Anyone got any suggestions about any manual settings I can do?
Cheers,
henshu
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Your operator does have any rom for Touch HD on their site? If it does, try it and see if it works.
Also read this page, seems to be an O2 rom for Blackstone devices http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Versions .
This page may be usefull too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444170
henshu said:
Yes, it registers and works with a vodaphone simcard. It also works with t-mobile but I can't send or recive calls on that (mightbe a sim thing with a need to top up or something) But a new o2 PAYG sim card and my old one still bringing up no service.
Anyone got any suggestions about any manual settings I can do?
Cheers,
henshu
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Hi henshu. Have you tried checking your band settings. Make sure they all are set to Auto. Tap on phone then options then band.

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