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spb mobile shell 2.0 vs Dutty...

anyone care to chime in on this??? Is it worth going to the spb? Can you install over top of latest Dutty? Looks pretty cool!

Dutty is a rom..... SPB MS 2.0 is a program. It'll run on any rom.

Yeah I know that it is... I guess I was meaning how does it compare to just running HTC home? Worth the buy?

airric00 said:
Yeah I know that it is... I guess I was meaning how does it compare to just running HTC home? Worth the buy?
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You can download a trial for it. Mods please move this thread the Kaiser Software forum.

but this has nothing to do with dutty's rom..
for me its worth the buy...read more on the spb website

sorry..
Guess I should have posted over there sorry..

SBP products run great and are essential for any phone but I only use SBPdiary w/HTCH on my Today screen. Most of their products run great in the background, SBPTime for powerful alarm clock, stop watch, and world timer. SPB Phone Suite excellent calling features that can run in the background as well.
I typically enjoy HTCHC but from time to time I wish I had the artistic and technological skills to create something different

I have a Tilt, and I tried installing both SPB Shell 2.0 and SPB Pocket Plus 4 on Dutty's April 1st rom, and they worked but did one weird thing, when the phone would boot up the signal would go in and out, flashing there, then not there, then there etc., it would do this for almost a minute before finally locking on a signal.

airric00 said:
Yeah I know that it is... I guess I was meaning how does it compare to just running HTC home? Worth the buy?
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I would say that the SPB Mobile Screen 2 program is awesome! I have been using it on top of Dutty's Light rom and it works great. Real smooth and responsive, lots of customization options as well as nice fit and finish which is hard to find on a WM6 product.
If you want a free version you can always check out .... to find all the crack codes for almost any software package out there.
As far as the downsides go, it eats battery faster than normal, it does not run on your today screen which bothers me and you can OK through it and go back to your today screen. That problem is slightly solved by SPB making it your default app when you start up the phone and bring it back from sleep which elevates most of the issues.
I just flashed my phone and am going to try giving HTC Home Live a chance, but if I do not think it is customizable enough I am going straight back to SPB... Before I forget to mention, SPB has one of the best opening screens I have seen so far, it has a email, missed calls and text messages right on the front, as well as weather, call options, clock, and the best part a calendar with dates and your schedule all in an easy to read form.
I hope this clears up something for you. Hopefully you wont have to pay for it, but if you do, I would actually say it is worth the 30 bucks.

brianlau said:
If you want a free version you can always check out removed by me to find all the crack codes for almost any software package out there.
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Have you lost your mind man? Warez is strictly prohibited here. I suggest you edit it out. Please no warez, cracks, serials, keygens or anything of the sort.

P1Tater said:
Have you lost your mind man? Warez is strictly prohibited here. I suggest you edit it out. Please no warez, cracks, serials, keygens or anything of the sort.
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Sorry my bad. Just trying to help people out. Will know now for next time.

I use spb mobile shell and love it. its very finger freindly and extremely useful.

californiarailroader said:
I have a Tilt, and I tried installing both SPB Shell 2.0 and SPB Pocket Plus 4 on Dutty's April 1st rom, and they worked but did one weird thing, when the phone would boot up the signal would go in and out, flashing there, then not there, then there etc., it would do this for almost a minute before finally locking on a signal.
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That's because weather updates on bootup.
It sucks but does level off & then everything works.
Besides that, they both work excellent for me together

airric00 said:
Guess I should have posted over there sorry..
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I tried the spb mobile shell trial and it's also nice.
Try Pointui as well, you might like it and not buy spb mobile shell at all. The last time I tried this was when it just came out in Alpha stage and it did quite well and was fast with the original, slow wm6 OS that came with my Tilt

dwny said:
That's because weather updates on bootup.
It sucks but does level off & then everything works.
Besides that, they both work excellent for me together
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Ahh, so that's what's causing it, I was going nuts trying to figure out why that was happening with them, thanks dwny! It does level off after a minute or so like you said and then it's fine, I was thinking it was screwing with my signal or phone, but if it's normal and not a problem, I am putting them back on. I am so glad you posted this, I was missing my SPB stuff, HTC Home just isn't cutting it for me. I had hard reset the Tilt and reloaded Dutty's Rom, and left off those programs because, like I said, I thought it was an error.
Edit-If I shut off the weather, will it stop that behavior? I don't use the weather on SPB MS, It doesn't have the weather for my town of Redwood Valley, I use Weather Bug and Weather Watcher for that. It's weird, I didn't have this issue when running MS or PP on Laurentius's ROM's. I take it that the signal thing is only visual, ie.the signal is actually okay, but while it's updating at boot up it "shows" it as going in and out, no?

andrukit said:
I tried the spb mobile shell trial and it's also nice.
Try Pointui as well, you might like it and not buy spb mobile shell at all. The last time I tried this was when it just came out in Alpha stage and it did quite well and was fast with the original, slow wm6 OS that came with my Tilt
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Be careful with Point UI, it's tricky to uninstall (there is no uninstall for it in the "remove programs" page), and it leaves pieces of itself of it allover. I tried it too, and it has a ton of potential, but they really need a way to get it off the phone, right now it's an exercise in frustation.

californiarailroader said:
Be careful with Point UI, it's tricky to uninstall (there is no uninstall for it in the "remove programs" page), and it leaves pieces of itself of it allover. I tried it too, and it has a ton of potential, but they really need a way to get it off the phone, right now it's an exercise in frustation.
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Quick question, what did you think of Point UI? worth installing and flashing again? I am fumbling around with a lot of different UIs? I have tried Ultimate Launch (bit too complicated for me to setup the way I want, SPB Mobile Shell, (but it drains too much batt), HTC home (not customizable enough.) If you could let me know a little more about the POINT UI that would be awesome before I put it on my phone. Thanks buddy.
Brian

brianlau said:
Quick question, what did you think of Point UI? worth installing and flashing again? I am fumbling around with a lot of different UIs? I have tried Ultimate Launch (bit too complicated for me to setup the way I want, SPB Mobile Shell, (but it drains too much batt), HTC home (not customizable enough.) If you could let me know a little more about the POINT UI that would be awesome before I put it on my phone. Thanks buddy.
Brian
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you tried htc home customizer w/ quick launcher?
There are many customized icons, clocks, backgrounds, and weather views. In addition w/ quick launcher you have an extra row of tabs, which you can change to go to any program (and icons of course).

I stuck with HTC embedded inside Ultimate Launcher.
Ultimate Laucher is not that complicated if you look carefully a little bit of patience and you'll get the hang of it, moreover you could just copy your Ultimatelauncher.ini file as backup to have the same setup each time in case you like flashing roms a lot.
For HTC Home there's HTC Home Customizer, lots of icons to download.
I've tried most of them, but i always end up with the simplest setup I guess I got tired of fancy sliding and multiple clicks, the fewer clicks to find what I need does it for me.
Btw, there's another nice today app I'd like you to see it's rlToday Check it out
brianlau said:
Quick question, what did you think of Point UI? worth installing and flashing again? I am fumbling around with a lot of different UIs? I have tried Ultimate Launch (bit too complicated for me to setup the way I want, SPB Mobile Shell, (but it drains too much batt), HTC home (not customizable enough.) If you could let me know a little more about the POINT UI that would be awesome before I put it on my phone. Thanks buddy.
Brian
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Touchflo 3D vs SPB Mobile Shell

Hi,
I've read a lot of pros to deactivate TF3D and install Mobile Shell because of the performance, and i was hoping to hear from people theirs pros and cons and i DON'T mean "i like TF3D bla bla" but an explanation too!!
I thinks it's a lot of storage to be used, or can it be installed on the internal memory?!

TF3D lasted about 20 minutes for me, it looks great but didnt really give me what I needed, when I needed it.
I found it dreadfully slow and fairly clumsy ...yes, I know you can tweak it to the N`th degree now, but still seems to be more cosmetic than funtional. Just a thin flash skin over WM6, and it resorts back to WM6 when you have to do more in depth things with the phone.
I guess I was biased towards SPB Mobile Shell though, as I`ve used it on my last 2 phones (Tytn and Tytn II) and love the way it simplifies and speeds up using the phones. It is not just an improvement over the TF3D but also Windows Mobile. Far more user friendly!! (finger friendly)
I have the latest version on my diamond and love the ability to thumb/finger scroll through the options/section just as well as the TF3D, it`s still layed out well, although I don`t like the way they`ve done the frequently used/favourite programs bits... I liked having the start square infact I prefer the layout of the previous version (9 squares rather than the 6 squares and the messy favourites bar at top.)
It doesnt look as lovely and unified as the TF3D but I realise that you can change the theme. It can look a bit garrish with the multicoloured icons .
The now (today) screen is far more useful on SPB as you can add/remove options.. still not as customisable as real today screen (I probably haven`t found all the plugins tho ?)
I would download the trial as see what you think.
I give TF3D a big thumbs down and SPB Mobile Shell a big thumbs up
Hope this all makes some sense / is of some use, as am slightly sloshed *h*i*c* !

Where have you installed the progam files? In the internal storage or RAM (i guess it's called?!))

I installed it on the phone rather than the internal storage, seemed to be plenty of space. Never normally install to the phone area but feel (rightly or wrongly) that it helps running from phone memory ?? Still loads of room and phone flies along. Doesnt seem to as big an issue as it once was.

hi bro,
being an experience user with spb shell, can you kindly share with us with some skins that you are using?

I have the latest version of SPB Shell (though not installed at the moment as just flashed with a new ROM.
I prefer the SPB Shell as it is alot smoother and faster switching between the menus and the main today screen can be configured to give alot more info than the TF3D one.
For those that like to know the weather it gives you a breakdown of what the weather is going to be like at various times of the day rather than just now (I can look out of the window for that) and even the 5 day forecast can be viewed to see the expected weather at various times of the day.
As for skins the default ones that come with it are only different colours but having a choice of colours from scratch is better than the plain TF3D.
SPB Shell is very configurable compaired to TF3D but still not as configurable as some other Today screens unless like th eother poster said it comes in the form of other plugins.
I have it installed to normal phone memory and everythings fine. I haven't tried installing it to the internal memory but figure if I have to reinstall it if I flash a new ROM anyway I may as well make sure that it's cleared for a fresh reinstall.
Deffo one to give a try if you want something other than TF3D - smoother, more configurable, more skin options, ability to add more plugins.

I have to agree that TF3D is not something that is usable. As a matter of fact, I am very close to labeling it as a piece of crap. All the bad points of TF3D has been posted in this forums countless times and I do not want to repeat it. I am sticking with TF3D is because of one reason only. That is because it's the Diamond's identity. If I were to use other today plugins I would not have gotten the Diamond. Diamond and TF3D is like coffee and sugar/milk (depending on how you like it). Without it, the Diamond loses it's identity.

How about battery usage? Any difference there?

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I have to agree that TF3D is not something that is usable. As a matter of fact, I am very close to labeling it as a piece of crap. All the bad points of TF3D has been posted in this forums countless times and I do not want to repeat it. I am sticking with TF3D is because of one reason only. That is because it's the Diamond's identity. If I were to use other today plugins I would not have gotten the Diamond. Diamond and TF3D is like coffee and sugar/milk (depending on how you like it). Without it, the Diamond loses it's identity.
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I agree with you. But where can TF3d Themes be found?
I have found two .theme files that works and easy to set up. O2 Blue and Orange Lite. But it would be nice to get something like the White Diamond

I think its better explained this way:
SPB can house many more functions. If you need your phones apps the whole day long an need to navigate your small system every minute, TF3D is really not the thing. SPB is very good, and takes care of every single corner on your phone. Highly skinnable, and fast.
I tried it, but you know, it's too much for me.
I like a lot of apps, but I don't use em every day. So I want to fast check Email, SMS, or weather, or make a call. For those basic functions I think TF3D is the best. Just grab phone, Thumb-thingy to the right tab and off you go.
I don't need something TF3D cant do. Well, some minor things, like agenda and tasks, but I guess that'll be fixed in a few weeks

I'll vote for the Shell too: I tried Flo, really tried as it looks so good, but found it was just unworkable!
Shell is clean and simple, and fast. Also, I use a P3600i in some situations (such as when I really want to hear incoming call rings) - using Shell keeps me to a common interface.
These are the setting that I use:
TABS Home TODAY Date
Time SPB Shell
Weather Owner
Dial Tab Messaging
Calendar
Fring
SPB Menu Internet IE/Opera + Favorites
No Data
Fring
Internet Sharing
Comm Mgr
Multimedia Media Player
Camera
Pictures
Voice recorder
Album
Tools Task Mgr
File Browser
Rotate
Lock
Profiles
SPB Backup
MemMaid
App to Date
Programmes (auto)
My Menu 1Calc
TomTom
Ozi
Stock Mgr
Best Crypto
FM Radio
Settings (auto)
I run TLR v3 - clean and stable.
Unrelated to SPB Mobile Shell, my final 'make it perfect' was to get rid of the ring delay by:
Diamond Phonepad skin: HKLM -> Security -> Phone -> Skin -> Enable (set 1 to 0), then reset

It all depends on what you do with your phone. I tried SPB Mobile Shell and it worked nicely. Quite happy with it. It's faster and more user friendly compared to TF3D. The homescreen also looks nice and it has a nice feature where you can move your finger in a downward movement from the taskbar to choose between the 3 pages of the shell. Although the Now screen is not very customizable (maybe it is with correct plugins?), the other page u can change every shortcut to programs and such. It's nice, but I don't tweak my Diamond anymore as I used to. I saw the Orange Theme with TF3D and I liked it alot. The analog clock looks great. If you're new with the Diamond and ur tweaking and changing and everything, I suggest you get SPB Shell (or just disable TF3D). But TF3D still looks better (orange theme that is)..
I just need to find a white .tsk theme for wm6.1.. All I see is grey/red/purple/whatever... Goodluck with this..

Install SPB Mobile Shell on Diamond

I'm eager to install the SPB Mobile Shell on my HTC Touch Diamond, but I cannot seem to find any guide anywhere on how to do it. What steps do I need to take prior to the installation? Is it sufficient to disable Touch Flo 3D in the registry, or do I have to install a custom ROM?
Thanks in advance!

why would you want to use mobile shell, touchflo 3d is so much better and faster?!

for installation you don't have to disable TF3D... but in order to see the Today-Plugins from Mobile-Shell you need to disable it.

I only use Shell on my Diamond - Flo drives me round the bend. Try setting the Flo weather location using Flo - it is enough to drive one batty!
Shell may not be as pretty - but is far more fuctional IMHO.
Just grab a ROM which either has no Flo or (at the very least) uninstallable Flo.

SPB shell is easy to set up - just follow the instructions that came with the product.
go to: start/settings/today/items and disable TF3D and enable SPB. if you wish to change back do the reverse.
i use SPB. it is quicker, more intuitive and just easier than the TF3D. the black skin looks ace also.
have tried to go back to TF3D but always end up back with SPB.

Thanks for your comments! Does anybody know how much space is wasted to have Flo installed but not using it? Do I really need to go for a custom ROM?
_4saken_: Touch Flo is driving me crazy. I've been using my Diamond for a week now and I simply cannot stand it anymore. I want an interface that is practical, that I can use everyday at work, that does not necessarily impress my friends in any way. But that helps me achieve my daily tasks in the most efficient way possible.
Touch Flo 3D is very nice looking but IMHO it is not especially functional. In my world simplicity and function wins over glossiness and sluggish animations ;-)
From the demos I've seen on SPB there are many smart features that saves clicks and gives a better flow of events, as compared to Touch Flo. But then again, I have yet to try it out

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why would you want to use mobile shell, touchflo 3d is so much better and faster?!
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Did you try it?
I had both. the combination of SPB mobile shell + SPB time + SPB phone suite is much more flexible and gives more possibilities. As for speed - the SPB is heavy if you use custom "nice" theme.
Regards,
PV

ComPas-V said:
Did you try it?
I had both. the combination of SPB mobile shell + SPB time + SPB phone suite is much more flexible and gives more possibilities. As for speed - the SPB is heavy if you use custom "nice" theme.
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With heavy you mean slow? So you've experienced the SPB to be slower than Touch Flo? Just curious!

Yes and no
jobook said:
With heavy you mean slow? So you've experienced the SPB to be slower than Touch Flo? Just curious!
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The Diamond is VGA (probably you know ). The SPB mobile shell uses bmp so to make custom theme you should double pics size and as result file size. So theme becomes heavy. However it does not make the program slow, but eats memory... So we came to the classic Windows situation - shell eats all memory dedicated for programs...
As for usability issue : the interface is more informative then 3DFlo. not too much though.
Cheers

spb Mobile Shell vs TFL3D

Is there allready a discussion between those 2 user forntends?
http://www.areamobile.de/specials/Xperia_X1_vs_HTC_Touch_HD/Video.php
In this german comparisson between the Touch HD vs Xperia X1 the Touch HD was winning 3:2 and one reason was the better user interface of TFL3D vs the Panel system from the X1 but they have not taken the spb Mobile Shell into consideration which is available for free for the X1.
Beside that they have not rated the battery capacity, so at the end I would say that for both devices it is at least 50:50 and the user have to decide what direction he want to go - more multimedia with a bigger screen or more business with better battery and keyboard.
This is the background of my question. And I think it is a fair question because the spb Mobile Shell is free for the X1.
Claus
PS: Me personaly I am more in favor of the X1 (because of the battery and the hardware keys)

dingolino said:
In this german comparisson between the Touch HD vs Xperia X1 the Touch HD was winning 3:2 and one reason was the better user interface of TFL3D vs the Panel system from the X1 but they have not taken the spb Mobile Shell into consideration which is available for free for the X1.
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Add to that that the Touch HD TFL3D is already ported to xperia and then the whole decision is based on if you want a hardware keyboard or prefer a larger (in size) screen.
For me the hardware keyboard wins by far.

XavierGr said:
For me the hardware keyboard wins by far.
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agree
can't wait to have my xperia...

Maybe somebody who has both
TFL3D and spb mobile Shell on his X1 could comment?
Claus

they are about the same...you can do more stuff with mobile shell, but TF3d looks better...so its a matter of taste really...just install both and try

SPB Mobile Shell seems far superior to me. TF3D is way too slow and requires several more clicks to get to where you want to go. It looks great, but also is less responsive and slows down the rest of your phone's interface.
One issue I have with Mobile Shell is that the task manager seems to have disappeared. Does anybody know how to get this back? It is still running, as I can see the icon flickr in it's spot sometimes, but for the most part it is gone. Also, I can't seem to uninstall TF3D which is ridiculous.

Task Manager will disappear when you use SPB Mobile Shell Panel!
+1, same here. The task manager icon on the right corner of the screen will disappear when switching to SPB Mobile Shell Panel. That's just a really wield bug and Xperia staff did not test it thoroughly at all before release!

Touch3d slows the phone down quiet alot, and crashes and is not 100% usable right now (some things still need more work to be done to be usable on xperia)
the spb on the other hand is faster, designed for the xperia, free. It is not impressive, but it is "efficient".

Efficiency is everything.
Sure, TF3D looks great but, as previously stated, eventually it slows down the device to the point where you just want to cry, alternatively, throw it out the window. I also suspect touchflo eats battery like crazy. Besides, Mobile Shell looks pretty good as well.
TF3D was great fun for a while but now I realize it really isnt very useful. I'd rather have quick and responsive before shiny and cool.

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SPB Mobile Shell seems far superior to me. TF3D is way too slow and requires several more clicks to get to where you want to go. It looks great, but also is less responsive and slows down the rest of your phone's interface.
One issue I have with Mobile Shell is that the task manager seems to have disappeared. Does anybody know how to get this back? It is still running, as I can see the icon flickr in it's spot sometimes, but for the most part it is gone. Also, I can't seem to uninstall TF3D which is ridiculous.
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I'd also like to know how to get the HTC task manager to show up in the upper right while using SPB mobile shell...

dinan said:
I'd also like to know how to get the HTC task manager to show up in the upper right while using SPB mobile shell...
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Indeed, me too - its the main thing that stops me settling on SPB at the moment! Ruddy stupid bug, that one!

i've figured out the solution to not having the task manager is to install aeb plus and set one of the buttons to open it's own proprietary task manager (i've set it to double click the right silver button).
works awesome and i don't have to rely on touching the corner of the touchscreen which requires using two hands.

I'm still trying to figure this out too. Very inconvenient

I think you'e missing the point.
SPB panel tries to place as much stuff as possible, into 'thum-able' icons so u can use the phone one handed without the stylus, hence task manager is located under the tool menu with large close this, close all options.
The only bug I found so far on SPB is the quick contacts, when you switch from portrait to landscape you lose the first entry in the list....very annoying.
I've used TFL3D and while very pretty the usability of SPB is greater hence i've switched back, my only requirement would be the ability to skin the SPB UI, now that would be cool

I'm experiencing some troubles with SPB, while I really enjoy using it, sometimes the phone freezes after using SPB for a while and then pressing the "panel" button.
Anybody else have this problem?

SBP on Xperia and task manager
When SBP pannel is active, the task manager is still accesible through the Button "Tools". It is removed from the corner to make it more "finger friendly". When you launch it, it displays the task list and then you have similar options than in the standard WM task manager, but arranged as a list of big buttons.
I agree that loading touchflo 3D slows down the UI (and eats 30Meg of memory). SBP is"ugly" but quick and efficent, specially if you remove the animations. However if you've used SBP in other WM device, there are lots of possibilities to customize backgrounds, colors, fonts etc. Maybe they want to get people used to it and then launch a "pro" version of the panel with enhanced look and functions (and not for free obviously)..

may i know whats the function of the Spb shell? Installed it,it's there in the settings, but no single change in the phone.

Uhhh..its a user interface. Add it to your panels and try it out.

mkent_barbados said:
Uhhh..its a user interface. Add it to your panels and try it out.
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TYVM. But how will i add it into a panel?

...push the panels button, push the icon that looks like a spanner, choose a blank panel, pick the panel you want to assign (it's in the user manual).

a few Qs about the D2

ok so firstly, i'm wondering, if i buy spb shell 3 and throw it on my d2....if i don't like it, how easy is it to switch back to the default interface?
Is SPB shell 3 any good? do people recommend it?
I'm still having problems with youtube app. i've tried hard resetting but it's still saying no connection please try again or something. I'm tried turning proxy on and off and nothing happens.
does spb shell drain the battery more than the touch flo?
thanks for the help if anyone replies

also does spb shell use the same keyboard as the d2 default? i like the default one, really useful
and finally is there an app that means i can switch from spb shell to touch flo when i want? that would be the best idea i guess

Barff1984 said:
ok so firstly, i'm wondering, if i buy spb shell 3 and throw it on my d2....if i don't like it, how easy is it to switch back to the default interface?
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You just need to remove the program for the default to return, nice and easy.
Barff1984 said:
Is SPB shell 3 any good? do people recommend it?
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personally I think its pretty good, I've had it on for a week or so now and its got everything I'd expect from it, I'd say its not quite as smooth as TF3D for scrolling large program menus but other than that its a great piece of software. You can always get the trial version from their website and see what you think though: http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/mobileshell/download.html
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does spb shell drain the battery more than the touch flo?
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not that I've noticed, I've not done any formal tests but it seems about the same and memory useage is about the same too.
Hope this helps

sorry, just seen your other post. Yes it does use the same keyboard and you can switch from touch flo to shell easily but I'm not sure how easy it is to go the other way around. Since uninstalling shell immediately reverts the phone to touch flo I guess there should be a way of doing it but I've not seen one around.

I have installed SPB Shell 3.0 for a few days now and I like it more than TF3D.
I personally recommend it...

Barff1984 said:
ok so firstly, i'm wondering, if i buy spb shell 3 and throw it on my d2....if i don't like it, how easy is it to switch back to the default interface?
Is SPB shell 3 any good? do people recommend it?
I'm still having problems with youtube app. i've tried hard resetting but it's still saying no connection please try again or something. I'm tried turning proxy on and off and nothing happens.
does spb shell drain the battery more than the touch flo?
thanks for the help if anyone replies
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I find the same issue intermitently with youtube. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I just keep going in until it works.
It might be due to the poor receptionn of my service provider (I am changing now). Or probably some bug with the version of the application we have. You can also try skyfire and just use the youtube web site.