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THIS SUCKS!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/20/atandt-agrees-to-buy-t-mobile-from-deutsche-telekom/
Welcome to AT&T Wireless...
All I can say is F_*$
I hate AT&T! I used to have both At&t and T-mobile and I left the death star because of their terrible customer service! Now I have to go to Sprint or Verizon..most likely Verizon because of their coverage. However its going to cost me almost Double. Again all I can say is ****!
I just put a 32gb memory card in my HD7, this super sucks.
I was thinking to myself, sh!t! AT&T sucks! I then realized, well the monstrous GSM network would be pretty cool. I just hope they don't mess with the unlimited data plan, or the attractive prices. I use my phone a lot, and unfortunately some of us have to stay on 3G data at all times because we can't all afford home internet for WiFi (where I live it is NOT affordable). I also enjoy my 85 dollar phone bill, a considerable drop from the $120/mo. AT&T or Verizon charge.
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Welcome to AT&T Wireless...
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I believe it's "AT&T Mobility" **** I have a bad feeling about this.
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I believe it's "AT&T Mobility" **** I have a bad feeling about this.
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LOL - Indeed... there goes my rate plan out the window.
I have been here before.
I was with what was the Original At&t Wireless, they sold out to Cingular, and they sold out again and back to the At&t nameplate. So I was on a great plan and had been on a great plan for many years. At&t started turning off services on my plan. Every time I would call they would just say..."well you are on a legacy plan and we don't support that anymore. You need to sign up for a new plan at twice the cost if you want those features."And I am not talking about major stuff, call forwarding, paging, voice mail, etc. I see this coming again for all of us T-Mobile customers that have been with them for sometime. I was an originally a voicestream customer and now I will switch carriers, most likely to Verizon, if I am going to pay that much for service I will go where I get the best coverage. I know the drawbacks of both but I refuse to ever give At&t another penny after the way they treated me the last time I was a customer. It's sad to see a company that takes care of its customers like T-Mobile not be able to keep up in this Monopolistic world. Just another example of what deregulation has brought to the USA. We will be down to three major carriers with this merger and I will bet it will be two soon. So much for competition and lower prices.
Yeah, this is pretty bad. Hopefully when the deal goes through next year they will let me out of my contract without penalty.
they will if they change your plan. t-mobile has a 3000 minute, unlimtied text and data family plan (limited time only) that's $10 cheaper than their 1500 family plan with the same features....mine kicks in 3/29 for 2 years...if it changes, i leave ETF free.
linky http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/...re-for-Families-3000-Talk-Text-Unlimited-Data
What does this ultimately mean for T-Mobile customers?
Will T-Mobile still keep their branding name?
there will still be t-mobile, but only in the u.k., no more t-mobile usa.
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there will still be t-mobile, but only in the u.k., no more t-mobile usa.
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This is correct. It'll just be AT&T. I wonder, given Sprint's situation, if Verizon will pick them up as they are using the same cell technology as each other. It would be a massive duopoly. I'm not sure how that would affect the prices, it might drive prices lower faster given that they'll only mainly be looking at each other in terms of "scopin the comp out".
****ing sucks...
LMAO I still dont see what the big deal is aside from prices going up however
i dont see what the big issue is with At&t
aside from capping data and the 4g debacle.
I had them and they were pretty decent to me
Nothing will happen for a year. ATT primarily wants TMO's AWS spectrum and other assorted IP. THEN they'll assimilate everyone
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LMAO I still dont see what the big deal is aside from prices going up however
i dont see what the big issue is with At&t
aside from capping data and the 4g debacle.
I had them and they were pretty decent to me
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Prices going up: If I bought the same services (but still less than what I'm getting from TMo) from AT&T it would cost me an extra $35 a month (from $119 to $154). That's $420 a year. That is a pretty significant difference.
The closest package I could get with both Verizon and Sprint is $188 a month. That's $828 more a year. With less competition, it's significantly more likely that AT&T will raise their prices to Verizon and Sprint's level as opposed to the other way around.
If this deal falls through, how are we supposed to feel about tmobile?
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when I hear the news feel sad........so...there isn't any cheap price anymore guys.
My friend works for T-Mobile as an engineer, he said expect T-Mobile to implement all the changes MUCH sooner than we expect. He said his division is already being broken up & relocated. Some are getting their walking papers. The T-Mobile employees aren't too happy about this either. Also confirmed that older phones like the HD2 will not be supported with 3G capabilities on at&t's network. But even though the deal won't be complete for a few months, they will start making most changes sooner, so the transition will move along smoother. Basically us that love T-Mobile & hate at&t are screwed.
So I wrote this letter to the Analysts, HR, and Regional Information Guy of AT&T because I couldn't find answers elsewhere and the CSR and their supervisors were jerks and could not give me a straight rational answer.
My coworker said that he's been on Tmobile for 8 years and he finally called the CSR and asked if Tmobile could do anything for them regarding lowering their bill and such. Out of loyalty, they gave him the new plan Tmobile has released.
I called AT&T and got a straighforward I could care less if you've stayed with us for 5 years+ and even pushed me to transferring to a cancellation agent. FYI she was a real pain, she kept cutting me off.
Dear Andy Morgan, Marty Richter and AT&T Analysts
I'm writing you this email in regards to recent conversations and changes made to ATT wireless.
First off, I'd like to say that I've been a long time customer of ATT Wireless for over 5 years and I would like to continue to be one however I am not pleased with the way the Customer Service answer their customers and how difficult it is to get straightforward and legitimate answers based on real research and not some opinionated or textbook based answer.
I'm a customer who has a family plan with 4 lines, which on average pays $180/month including regulatory fees for 700minutes, an unlimited data plan, an unlimited family data plan with mobile to mobile. I'm happy with these features however, I feel that the pricing on them is too high, especially with less features.
Competitors such as T-mobile, which has recently been acquired by AT&T offers the same features with more for less. A coworker of mine recently told me that he's on a family plan with unlimited everything for 4 lines at 2x49.99 +2x15= $130 before regulatory fees and roughly $160 after rounding up.
A CSR told me that because we are getting 30$/month unlimited texting with mobile to mobile, it's better than competitors. but if Tmobile offers unlimited talk, it shouldn't matter.
The $20 difference in my bill compared to my coworkers and the features that are offered really doesn't sound fair does it? AT&T Supervisor and CSR response "We don't price match and we do things our way"
I asked about data pricing, and their response was that it was tailored to their customers. I agree that not many people need more than 2GB/month of data, but the pricing for it is $25/month. Tmobile offers unlimited with a 2GB soft cap(reduced speeds post 2GB) for $20 a month, and with they unlimited everything plan, it would be far less. I understand that data is getting expensive especially because of the growing trends of smartphones however with all these supposed "network hauls" shouldn't the pricing lower? According to the NY Times article from a year ago, cellphone data is being used more than minutes and with that, shouldn't these data plans have a fair variety that can compete with competitors rather than charging $15 for 200MB, which isn't enough for most users and $25 for 2GB, which is more than competitors.
Unlimited Family Plan (first two lines):
The first two lines are $49.99/mo. each line, totaling $99.98 per month. Each of the first two lines includes:
Unlimited data: Up to 2 GB of high-speed data (for capable devices), then reduced speeds after that. If you use up your high-speed data, we will automatically reduce your speeds for the rest of your billing cycle—so you can still connect without overages.
Unlimited talk minutes
Unlimited text
New two-year agreement
Need more lines?
Add up to 3 lines.
Get unlimited data and text, plus 500 talk minutes and unlimited nights and weekends (up to 2 GB of full-speed data per line). All this for just $15/mo. per line.
Now, on with Text messaging, according to Engadget, AT&T will be ending the $10 for 1000 text message deal. This was confirmed by an AT&T agent. How is it that you guys could end this messaging plan especially leaving customers to get the unlimited plan? According to a wireless network analysts, the consumers send an average of 664 text messages a month. With that, the average American Teen sends an average of 3339 text messages a month. Shouldn't there be variety? Not everybody text messages, and if the new implementations and pricing are tailored.
I understand that AT&T has more resources as well as more funding and is working on their HSPA+ network and LTE coming this year Q4 and because of that, require more funding to get these networks up. But, how is it that Tmobile, a smaller company can increase the coverage of their HSPA+ network to over 40 locations nationwide already, when our HSPA+ only goes up to half of what Tmobile has. I understand the backhaul as well as the need for capital to expand the network, however the ratio of benefits to price isn't exactly one to one on AT&Ts network. In 2010, a filing by AT&T regarding its SEC filing "On a reported basis, our fourth-quarter 2010 revenues were $31.4 billion, up $653 million from the fourth-quarter 2009 and full-year 2010 revenues were $124.3 billion", $31.8 billion from AT&T Mobility generated roughly 25% of the revenue AT&T made in 2010/ and how much of that revenue is being used to expand the network? Tmobile, a smaller company in the US, generated a revenue of $21.347billion and has yet been able to offer better pricing as well as stronger data networks than AT&T
Verizon, another competitor that has similar pricing to your own is able to get their LTE network to more than half of the nation's population already. The crazy thing is LTE is a GSM based technology and they're on a CDMA based network.
To my understanding, with more money, you could do more things and it'll cost a lot more, but how is it that Tmobile, the smaller company has done more things for its customer with a smaller client base than AT&T and Verizon with a larger client base do more for its customers than AT&T. It doesn't make sense to me.
AT&T supervisors and CSRs have told me that the plans that AT&T offers is tailored to customers and yet they choose to take away choices. One Supervisor said "we can't please everybody" and that's true because you can't, but it's much better to have variety than have no choices at all. Every area has a different need, such as New York vs Montana. The demand for data is higher in one area than the other and the demographics are different.
Rather than catering to a biased statistic with outliers, try to cater to a smaller demographic and you'll see more results.
AT&T CSRs are horrible too as I asked these questions and expected straightforward answers, my previous CSR told me "AT&T can charge whatever we want" and that was most arrogant and honest answer I received all day. This CSR was more than happy to get rid of me and transfer me to a Cancellation rep. So much for mutualistic loyalty and customer care.
The fact that AT&T has bought T-Mobile and decided to do away with customer support exemplifies the need for two separate GSM companies. You guys have no competition and therefore can implement unfair business to your customers.
Give me some answers as to why the prices are so high and why there is less to be offered to the customers. Cater to the customers needs and work with them to benefit their needs, not push a plan hope and hope the majority will do nothing and go along with it. Without the customers, there is no AT&T.
Sincerely, ********, an Angry Customer
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It's not a grammatically correct nor is it a formal letter, but I was too busy being mad and linking citations.
I feel like I should contact the BBB or the FCC. AT&T will further neglect its customers and create plans that are aimed to make money and not to fit the general consumer. They think it tailors to the general consumer, but if they want to tailor to the majority of people, variety should be kept and they should give people the choice to choose what kind of plans that fit them.
I called the company Steel in the Air today to inquire about pricing of towers but they have yet to get back to me.
http://www.steelintheair.com/Municipalities-Building-Your-Own-Cell-Tower.html
According to their website, it costs generally 100-150k to build a tower. And I know there's much more that goes into this, but I don't know how much because AT&T CSR don't have this information in their manuals.
I hope I don't offend any AT&T lovers or AT&T employees but what that CSR said to me today really pisses me off, especially the way the supervisor who said they tailor to the customer.
I'm posting this on XDA because I wanna share with the members my experience with AT&T and reasons why we should boycott them, report them, and overall just dislike them.
I'm stuck on a two year contract with 4 lines, 3 upgradeable and 1 nonupgradeable lines and currently looking for a clause in my contract that will help me get out, because clearly AT&T doesn't care about pleasing their customers.
Um.. your kind of going to be screwed - TMobile is going to be swallowed by AT&T
I'd suggest just switching your provider as soon as your contract is up.
But.. please keep us updated if you get a positive response.
That sucks man. Keep us posted.
File with the FCC. It's the ONLY WAY you will get an answer.
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File with the FCC. It's the ONLY WAY you will get an answer.
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+1. (There is a ten char limit, so a simple +1 wont do it seems!)
What??? that seems stupid!!! In the UK the networks will normally price match. Have you tried asking for the PAC code?
I didn't see any threads about this anywhere, so I figure this might be interesting for at least a few people, especially those on contract.
I decided to check to see how readily available the Nexus 4 was on T-Mobile's website. I went through the motions and added it to my cart (admittedly a bit more complicated than it should be...), but I noticed an interesting offer:
"You are eligible to receive data service at a reduced price."
To the tune of $15 as opposed to $30. The catch? You gotta buy at full price ($499.99). Before you wave this off as nonsense, the interesting part is that if you do the math (assuming a 2-year contract, of course), getting the phone at full-price and then paying $15 for data turns out to be CHEAPER than getting it for $199.99 and continuing to pay $30!
Buying Subsidized - 200 + 24*30 = $920
Buying Unsubsidized - 500 + 24*15 = $860
Savings - 920 - 860 = $60!
Of course, that's over the course of two years... It's up to you to determine whether such a huge initial plunge is worth it in the long-run. I'm going to call T-Mobile soon to ask them a few more questions about this offer. Some things I don't quite know:
Am I still getting unthrottled 4G data?
Does this price stay in effect as long as I'm on T-Mobile and don't change my plan?
Does this affect the Family Plan I'm on in any way?
That second question is pretty important. Unless T-Mobile fails miserably as a service provider, I don't see myself leaving them anytime soon, and paying $15/mo. for unlimited 4G HPSA+ (soon to be LTE) sound amazing. I'd definitely want that grandfathered, just in case Tmo decides to kill their Unlimited Nationwide 4G plans in the future.
If anyone with T-Mobile (customer or representative) actually knows the answers to those questions, let me know. Depending on the answers, I just might go this route.
Why not just switch from the subsidized Classic plan to an unsubsidized Value plan and get the phone from Google (in a few weeks time)? Unlimited unthrottled data is just $20 on a Value plan (the voice/messaging part of the plan is cheaper, too), and you're free to bring in phones whenever you want instead of on these artificial 2-year contract cycles.
this is just for data, what about talk and text? I know you can text through data but wasn't this phone not able to talk through data or something like that??
I went to the site and see no such offer?
Can you show pictures or give detailed directions as to how you added it to your cart?
I even asked a tmo rep on chat and they said there's no such thing.
This type of discussion is already occurring here
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OK guys so I've been working in wireless back to the Airiel days. Then voice stream.
I've seen plans come and go. I've seen companies come and go.
I've seen limited data. Unlimited data, and limited data again.
This thread is to post your experience with plans on the nexus 4 to give people the information on what's out there.
Now as a wireless consultant which this is what I do.
I rate and create projects for customer feedback.
Go smart was my last job.
One word..... Sucks!!!
Now if you want to pay $35 for your iPhone on edge its a great deal.
Beyond that its a crappy deal.
I've personally used. Straight Talk... Ehhh OK.
Simple mobile ..... False advertising.
Net 10..... Data issues galore.
Att unlimited prepaid..... With imei hack... Still throttled to 500kbps...
Then we come to TMobile prepaid plan.
Out of everything prepaid I've used.
And this includes Solavei. Don't get me started on mlm wannabes.
The T-Mobile $70 plan directly through T-Mobile is the best plan hands down.
And for the solavei person who will say but ours is unlimited.... I did your consulting affiliate... Its only 4GB of data. And they are having massive billing issues, and not to mention losing people in there customer base.
I give them six months before imploding.
Did you know they are amassing a massive roaming bill.
Back on track.
I get true unlimited data. Everywhere in the u.s.
The new unlimited plan "includes roaming"
I have used 25GB of data this month see screen shots.
If you are a smart wireless consumer for your nexus.
Get this $70 plan and then here is how you save.
Find someone on eBay there are hundreds folks.
Selling $100 prepaid card credits for $69.99
Or even $50 cards for $40
Its all over eBay.
Right now im on the $70 plan and I pay about $45 a month average because of where I buy the refill cards.
So if you have a nexus 4.
This is the best plan on prepaid for power users.
I've achieved speeds over 30mbps and average 25mbps
That's better than Verizon lte and AT&T LTE postpaid plans.
This very well could be the best plan in wireless post paid or prepaid in wireless.
Tell me what you think.
And your experiences with other companies on the nexus 4.
There is a cheaper business plan.
$54.99 total cost I'm looking at but its post paid.
On the Dev side. I'm looking to try to improve the radio issue.
Using a optimus g hack.
Stay tuned
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Oh one last thing.
$7.00 a month insures your nexus 4 on prepaid.
No other mvno does that.
Sounds awfully like an advertisement. Try to be less biased from the start and condense your information.
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Sounds awfully like an advertisement. Try to be less biased from the start and condense your information.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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Sounds like it. And I looked at the T-mobile option and most aren't going for any measurable discount. As for comparing them to straight talk. Im on T-mobile directly, my girlfriend is on ST. Both of us on Nexus 4s. Our service and speeds are identical (and I can attest to LTE speeds on T-Mobiles network). Straight talk is nothing more than a virtual operator that either uses AT&T or T-Mobile's network.
There's just one problem with you post, T-Mobile's coverage sucks balls. Yeah its cool to get 20Mbps but if your not getting that you're usually on edge, which is at least half the time. I'll stick with straight talk att.
Source: I had T-Mobile before straight talk.
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There's already a T-Mobile discussion thread.
The intricacies of cell phone plans aren't really specific to the Nexus 4, anyway.
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WOW! I'm impressed because if you take into account that it's about 1.50$ a minute to call in the USA, in 3 minutes you have already used up almost the 5$ it costs to use the new service. I often travel to the US and wished this plan would have existed before.
Introducing ROAM LIKE HOME: A brand new way to roam in the U.S.
The stress related to U.S. roaming has just disappeared. Gone are the days of adding roaming plans, swapping out your SIM card or searching endlessly for Wi-Fi. Today we shared news that will change how you stay connected when you are in the U.S. $5 per day for the freedom to roam Starting Monday, November 10, your Share Everything Plan will cover the U.S. For just $5 per day when roaming in the U.S., you will be able to use the data and unlimited talk and text from your Share Everything Plan in the U.S. just like you would at home. Even calls and texts within the U.S. and back to Canada are included. This means you can text your BFF from Chicago; update your Facebook status while lounging in Miami; get directions when you’re lost in Memphis; call home to check in from Portland; Instagram a picture from the Statue of Liberty and more – all for only $5 per day when roaming. Your mobile phone is now your best travel companion. Simple and affordable We know not everyone heads to the U.S. for the same reasons – visiting family, shopping, playing tourist, work, etc. – so whether you’re hitting the outlet malls across the border for the weekend or basking in the Florida sun for three months, we’ve got you covered:
You’ll only pay $5 per day for ROAM LIKE HOME, for a maximum of 10 days on any monthly bill
This means up to 21 days of ROAM LIKE HOME at no extra charge in that month
If you’re not using your phone on a particular day when you’re in the U.S., the $5 per day doesn’t apply
If you happen to use more data than what’s included in your plan, you’ll be charged the same as if you were in Canada. Track your usage using the My Rogers app. You can also switch to a different Share Everything Plan if yours is no longer meeting your needs.
But how do you get it? If you’re an existing Share Everything customer, you’ll need to enroll first. Starting November 10, simply text “travel” to 222 to get started. All new Share Everything customers as of November 10 will be automatically enrolled so they can immediately start taking advantage of our best roaming rates to the U.S. We listened when Canadians told us roaming wasn’t always easy and affordable. In a recent survey, we found that 49 per cent of Canadians who travel with their mobile device turn roaming off and 66 per cent wait to share photos rather than uploading them in-real time. More than half of people surveyed would rather take a chance on a nearby restaurant instead of using their mobiles to find the top-rated eateries in the area. That’s why we’ve introduced ROAM LIKE HOME – so you can use your mobile device just like you do at home anywhere you travel to the U.S. Visiting the U.S. is about having fun, not stressing about staying connected. With ROAM LIKE HOME, travelling in the U.S. will never be the same. ROAM LIKE HOME is also coming soon to tablets – stay tuned. If you could roam anywhere in the U.S., where would you go?
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With ROAM LIKE HOME, travelling in the U.S. will never be the same. ROAM LIKE HOME is also coming soon to tablets – stay tuned. If you could roam anywhere in the U.S., where would you go?
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This topic has been posted to "Note 4 forum", although it's not related to Note 4 in any way.
it looks like a commercial.
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This topic has been posted to "Note 4 forum", although it's not related to Note 4 in any way.
it looks like a commercial.
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Robbers...I mean Rogers sucks. Windmoble has unlimited data and calling in USA for $10 a month.
@op, of course you're impressed. I bet you were also impressed when you fell for share everything plan.
Don't worry, I know plenty that lost their unlimited North America with 6 gb data, for shiny iPhone and share everything plan. They will rejoice with this Roaming deal.
I myself will just pop in local sim in my unlocked phone.
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Robbers...I mean Rogers sucks. Windmoble has unlimited data and calling in USA for $10 a month.
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Yep! ^^^
They try to make their plans and extras seem like a deal! Like most big companies they are looking for BIG profits.
Many others up here offer voice text n data in US for fraction of the price.
And their new share everything plans are EXPENSIVE! and here's the kicker.. As of few months ago one now HAS to switch to a new plan and give up (likely an older much cheaper but with more stuff plan) if you want to EVER get a new phone (subsidized ). That is the true tragedy.
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First of all, wind has a VERY limited user base as its only in small parts of southern Ontario. Second, an unlimited north American data plan never existed from any of the major carriers.in Canada. 3rd, I have absolutely nothing to complain.about with Rogers. I have a 15gb share everything plan with 2 tablets that have LTE and I pay 100$ a month and that includes worldwide sms and prefrred calling rates abroad. There is not a single company in the US or in Canada that is widely available that could match my plan in any way.
If you think Rogers are robbers then don't go with them. You don't live in Syria...you have the choice to go with wind if it's available to you, which is probably not.because it's only in.southern Ontario. So at least when you compare, try to do it on a fair ground.
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First of all, wind has a VERY limited user base as its only in small parts of southern Ontario. Second, an unlimited north American data plan never existed from any of the major carriers.in Canada. 3rd, I have absolutely nothing to complain.about with Rogers. I have a 15gb share everything plan with 2 tablets that have LTE and I pay 100$ a month and that includes worldwide sms and prefrred calling rates abroad. There is not a single company in the US or in Canada that is widely available that could match my plan in any way.
If you think Rogers are robbers then don't go with them. You don't live in Syria...you have the choice to go with wind if it's available to you, which is probably not.because it's only in.southern Ontario. So at least when you compare, try to do it on a fair ground.
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Your plan is a ripoff. Bell and Rogers run a monopoly and make sure everyone overpays. Not just for phones but in all forms of communication.
We've had something similar here in New Zealand, however it's worldwide roaming. Pay $5 a day and get unlimited roaming in the UK, Australia, USA, Japan, China and couple of island countries.