Is IE unusable on the kaiser with the bug i hear about? I usually use the joypad for scrolling down, is it still the same?
Compared to the Hermes, how fast is the Kaiser at building pages up? On any big pages (eg. ebay) the Hermes really grinds to a snails pace and even when you think it's finished if you scroll down it's still (slowly) inserting images. Sometimes it can take nearly 60secs to finish showing an eBay page.
cheers, John
Which bug?
I use PIE with PIEPlus 2.2 and it works fine.
It is slow though, compared to my old Magician WM2003SE But thats obvious (WM2003SE is not flash based OS, no persistent-memory, thats why faster).
I am waiting Opera Mobile 9, which I am not sure will ever be released!
Duke Nukem Forever
I don't notice any difference with the Hermes. What bug are you talking about exactly?
By the by: opera mini beta 4 runs great on the Kaiser.
johnk1973 said:
Is IE unusable on the kaiser with the bug i hear about? I usually use the joypad for scrolling down, is it still the same?
Compared to the Hermes, how fast is the Kaiser at building pages up? On any big pages (eg. ebay) the Hermes really grinds to a snails pace and even when you think it's finished if you scroll down it's still (slowly) inserting images. Sometimes it can take nearly 60secs to finish showing an eBay page.
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johnk1973 said:
Is IE unusable on the kaiser with the bug i hear about? I usually use the joypad for scrolling down, is it still the same?
Compared to the Hermes, how fast is the Kaiser at building pages up? On any big pages (eg. ebay) the Hermes really grinds to a snails pace and even when you think it's finished if you scroll down it's still (slowly) inserting images. Sometimes it can take nearly 60secs to finish showing an eBay page.
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Yes it works, but the scrolling gets laggy once you have scrolled down a bit. The page download times are probably on a par with the TyTn. The Touchflo finger scrolling works better (once you get the hang of it).
Opera Mini works faster and scrolls OK.
Mike
Im not having any issues with PIE in general and I'm already getting used to the scroll feature. In fact I picked up my Trinity today and found it annoying when I had to use those fiddly scroll bars.
I wonder how it compares to the experience on the new iPod Touch?
I heard from a friend that the browsing experience on that was very intuitive - but then he is an apple nerd!
My bigger issue with the Tytn II is still the radio used. I am having real problems with the gprs/3G switch and both phone and internet connection have major problems coping when I am in 1 or 2 bars of 3G.
And I am still rarely getting a full 3G signal which was not the probelm with the later radios I have on my Tytn and Trinity.
I will try my Vodafone SIM tomorrow and see if it makes a difference.
gogol said:
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you read my mind
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"What ya waitin for Christmas"
Mike
mikechannon said:
Yes it works, but the scrolling gets laggy once you have scrolled down a bit.
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this is the bug i was talking/hearing about.
With the extra power and extra chips I was hoping the page building issue would have truly gone, it's my biggest gripe with my Hermes. My other gripe was the poor video playback on my Hermes (which has improved thanks to many WM6 roms), I hear this hasn't improved much either. I think I'll wait until a new ROM or a new device...
Touchflo doesnt work with my installation of Opera Mobile (8.60). Would have thought there would be 20 million threads on it by now so am thinking its just me with the issue.
Is touchflo something that has to be written into third party software of should it would with anything?
Opera Mini is the Java version correct?
New ROM will not fix that because it will be still the same IE.
IE is just slow, that's all.
Try Opera Mini and enjoy the super fast browsing experience.
You will never look back to IE, trust me.
johnk1973 said:
this is the bug i was talking/hearing about.
With the extra power and extra chips I was hoping the page building issue would have truly gone, it's my biggest gripe with my Hermes. My other gripe was the poor video playback on my Hermes (which has improved thanks to many WM6 roms), I hear this hasn't improved much either. I think I'll wait until a new ROM or a new device...
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Yes, Opera Mini is a Java application.
But it is running fine and superb.
Here what I got it installed in my device:
1. Install JBED-JAVA_MIDLET_MANAGER.2007.08.02.2.1
Get it from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=49222&d=1188897204
2. Use IE and browse to mini.opera.com/beta
And follow the instruction to install it.
Note: Choose "High memory" version.
You are done.
Now, read this article below :
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-...ed-includes-info-new-java-midlet-manager.html
You will be able to:
1. Make a shortcut to the "Programs" folder
Then using the "Settings->Button" you can change the IE softkey to execute this shortcut.
2. Get rid of the network security warning.
That's it
Schooleydoo said:
Touchflo doesnt work with my installation of Opera Mobile (8.60). Would have thought there would be 20 million threads on it by now so am thinking its just me with the issue.
Is touchflo something that has to be written into third party software of should it would with anything?
Opera Mini is the Java version correct?
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Phew! Took a bit of work, but worth it
All thats left is for it to be set as the default browser and take links from emails.
Cheers for that buddy.
The shortcut part just doesn't work for me. I use Esmertec and my shortcut based on what I see in the appsdb folder is
#30"\windows\jeodek.exe" -run s3_
Whatever I do it gives me the message - Could not find MIDlet suite s3_
The file in appsdb is s3_suite.jar. Even still, I tried from number s0_ to s3_ to no avail.
Hope somebody can help.
gogol said:
Yes, Opera Mini is a Java application.
But it is running fine and superb.
Here what I got it installed in my device:
1. Install JBED-JAVA_MIDLET_MANAGER.2007.08.02.2.1
Get it from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=49222&d=1188897204
2. Use IE and browse to mini.opera.com/beta
And follow the instruction to install it.
Note: Choose "High memory" version.
You are done.
Now, read this article below :
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-...ed-includes-info-new-java-midlet-manager.html
You will be able to:
1. Make a shortcut to the "Programs" folder
Then using the "Settings->Button" you can change the IE softkey to execute this shortcut.
2. Get rid of the network security warning.
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I get that same error - unable to find Suite 0 or 1 or whatever I put in.
Also the change in the selector file has my OperaMini still asking for permission. Any suggestions????
Thanks
Guys, I'm still getting the permission warnings as some other Opera 4 users are describing. I have done everything in this post including the selector.utf file. Has anyone figured out what might be causing this?
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Guys, I'm still getting the permission warnings as some other Opera 4 users are describing. I have done everything in this post including the selector.utf file. Has anyone figured out what might be causing this?
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i could only get it to work witn Cloudyfa's JBed, not with the default JMM.
I finally got it to work with Cloudyfa's JBed. For some reason, JBed wasn't installed properly. It wasn't showing up and Remove Programs. I reinstalled it, reinstalled Opera, applied the shortcut/network warning fix, and all is working perfectly.
For other people having this problem, make sure JBed is showing up in the Programs list and in Remove Programs before you install Opera. Seemed to do the trick.
I will be doing all of this tonight, Thanks for the tips.
Same here, I too get the error message could not find suite s0_. The number is correct, but i noticed i dont have any .jar files in the appdb folder... Any ideas?
I also didn't have any .jar files in my appdb folder. I did see some files with s2_ extensions (eg. s2_.jah and _s2.obj) so I changed my suite link to s2_ and it worked. Once I got the link to work, I then copied the selector.utf file from appdb to my PC and ran the Fix.exe editor on it and copied it back to the Kaiser. Works perfectly with no more permission dialog, thanks so much for sharing!
My squence;
1-Install Jbed
2-Install Opera Mini and test to verify it works.
3-Create link in programs folder and test
4-Copy off selector.utf and "fix", copy back and it should all be good, with no more permissions required.
5-Map the program link to a hard key.
6-Crack a cold beverage of choice, life is good
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just an announcement!
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just an announcement!
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Thanks for the info, mate....
Have you tried?
Cheers.
Hmm.. no downloader for Tilt or any HTC models... maybe we'll have to try a different Windows Mobile phone? I will try 8525
EDIT: What the hell? Does this thing work off of Java? Like the midlet manager? Why isn't there just a cab or an exe? I'm confused...
How much different is it from the Beta?
godfa7h3r said:
Hmm.. no downloader for Tilt or any HTC models... maybe we'll have to try a different Windows Mobile phone? I will try 8525
EDIT: What the hell? Does this thing work off of Java? Like the midlet manager? Why isn't there just a cab or an exe? I'm confused...
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Just connect from Kaiser PIE, and download it... it is java Midlet based browser... so no CAB nor EXE to install....
Cheers.
They don't have the kaiser listed yet but the one we want is the "advanced version", which is the one that all the other WM devices use. You don't want the "basic" one. It still prompts you for the stupid "trusted application" every time, I'll just have to hack the reg once again.
The best part: It displays the FULL web page in the browse. Not some hacked up, trimmed down page, but the full page. You then click on the area of the page you want to browse and it zooms in. You can then scroll around using your fingers (think touchFlo) or hit the magnifying glass to zoom out. Yes, it is kinda like the iphone, but it does work very nice.
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Thanks for the info, mate....
Have you tried?
Cheers.
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Well im using it now as i type and so far so good. But main test is with the cookies handeling, becuz with the last beta i noticed that while browsing profiles in myspace, opera mini would log me off after awhile. Still testing, ill report after im finished
About time!
Very Nice... As soon as the cab version comes out it will be even better!
Opera 9!!
anyone know the release date?!
It prompts for net access even with the high memory version.
How do you uninstall the beta? My shortcut is still taking me to that.
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How do you uninstall the beta? My shortcut is still taking me to that.
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Open up JBed, click menu, and hit "uninstall all".
This is my very first time using opera mini, and I must say I like it. Its working really well so far. One handed browsing is simple. Web pages look alot better, and work out better. One setting I changed was to make images medium quality instead of low. Otherwise, I like it. It is kinda like an Iphone.
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Otherwise, I like it. It is kinda like an Iphone.
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...only much much better!!!!
opera mini 4 advanced .jar download save then install
http://mini.opera.com/global/opera-mini-4.0.9751-advanced-int.jar
opera mini 4 .jad download and install
http://mini.opera.com/global/opera-mini-4.0.9751-advanced-int.jad
the .jad you need to download with your mobile, the .jar is a pc download
Ok, one problem I see thus far. I can't save images. (I like to be able to download images)
Am I missing something?
everthing is perfect..except i cant watch youtube videos, download images, and wish if somehow they make the address entry more user friendly also the enter button. Another thing that is bothering me is the net access dialog, its is very annoying. And how can i make it into an program straight forward insted of going through java midlet.
Desiflare999 said:
Another thing that is bothering me is the net access dialog, its is very annoying. And how can i make it into an program straight forward insted of going through java midlet.
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plz search.
ok, i tried downloading it and when i want to run it it doesnt only ask me the stupid security question but also tells me it will charge me mone for air time??? what does this means??? i wan to be able to see full html images but will it really charge me? i have an unlimited personal max data plan...please someone:s im so confussed!!!!
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ok, i tried downloading it and when i want to run it it doesnt only ask me the stupid security question but also tells me it will charge me mone for air time??? what does this means??? i wan to be able to see full html images but will it really charge me? i have an unlimited personal max data plan...please someone:s im so confussed!!!!
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was that in the terms and conditions? if so its just a warning that data charges can occur while using it if your network applies charges for data. if your on a data plan then dont worry it wont cost anything extra.
It's a java app, so, it won't be avail as a cab file. Opera Mobile is, Opera Mini is not. This is Opera Mini (which I love).
Looks like the new and revolutionized touchflo is here and from the looks of it, it looks super nice but costs money. Here's the link: http://www.ftouchsl.com/Default.aspx
If you've tried it out, please give us feedback.
The homepage gif doesnt really hilight the power of this tool.
Looking at the videos/infos is way more complete...
I'll give a try ony my Kaiser (the easy scrolling a-la iPhone is interesting)
Forgive my cynicism, but.... I can get my Kaiser to do finger scroll in most applications with TouchFlo. It doesn't look as smooth, but I was under the impression that had something to do with the shoddy screen refresh rate due to poor driver support (see stickies) and I am not entirely convinced that program is being demonstrated on a similarly crippled device...
Furthermore, the flash file on their front page seems to imply that they have some form of gesture recognition software running. The videos, however, do not demonstrate this, only the scrolling....
Dammit I need to be more trusting....
can our handicapped device handle this?
Cavey.co.uk said:
Forgive my cynicism, but.... I can get my Kaiser to do finger scroll in most applications with TouchFlo. It doesn't look as smooth, but I was under the impression that had something to do with the shoddy screen refresh rate due to poor driver support (see stickies) and I am not entirely convinced that program is being demonstrated on a similarly crippled device...
Furthermore, the flash file on their front page seems to imply that they have some form of gesture recognition software running. The videos, however, do not demonstrate this, only the scrolling....
Dammit I need to be more trusting....
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No you don't. Thank-you for raising these rather interesting points. I'd love to have this, but I wouldn't want it messing with my TouchFlo cube...I like the cube, its something cool to show people so they can "Ooooooo....AAaaaaaahhhhhhhhh...."
The device in the videos looks like an HTC P3600. It runs WinMo5 and uses a Samsung processor. I'd guess this doesn't run as nicely on the Kaiser.
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The device in the videos looks like an HTC P3600. It runs WinMo5 and uses a Samsung processor. I'd guess this doesn't run as nicely on the Kaiser.
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Agreed, but you may find that the Qualcomm chipset (as used in the Kaiser) is undermined by the software support for DirectDraw thereby making the Kaiser appear slower despite superior hardware. If the software support was there, you may well find touchflo itself is as smooth as this program. Until I see vids of it on a Kaiser or confirmation that it is pukka, I wont be touching it.
I'm sure someone will try it and let us know if it is kosher soon enough.
Testing
I installed the demo.
Call me Placebo Pete, but I'll be damned if overall scrolling isn't smoother. PIE scrolls MUCH smoother, scrolling the file system is still a bit doggy, but smoother overall. I have Touch Commander as my "cube" launcher and its much quicker to draw.
Overall, there really may be somthing to look at here. YMMV. I'd be interested in what others think.
I also run PointUI, which also seems to have benefitted. PointUI has always been smooth because its still a bit bare bones, but now I'd say its downright spritely!
Does this product interfere at all the TouchFlow Cube? I have Slither's version. Should Cube be de-installed to run this program or are they fully compatible?
Cavey.co.uk said:
Agreed, but you may find that the Qualcomm chipset (as used in the Kaiser) is undermined by the software support for DirectDraw thereby making the Kaiser appear slower despite superior hardware. If the software support was there, you may well find touchflo itself is as smooth as this program. Until I see vids of it on a Kaiser or confirmation that it is pukka, I wont be touching it.
I'm sure someone will try it and let us know if it is kosher soon enough.
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why wait for a video on a kaiser...isn't that what the demo is for...so you can try it for yourself rather than just speculate...not flaming, just saying...
If anyone tries the new FTouchSL app on your Kaiser/Tilt, please post your results here. I tried it (in demo mode) earlier today on my Tilt and experienced many a touch screen freeze. The settings area includes an option to disable TouchFlo, which I did...and when I'd test the new scrolling in PIE or Contacts, it would scroll (beautifully, I might add! Much smoother better than TouchFlo IMO) but would then freeze after just a few swipes. I'm curious if I'm in the Kaiser/Tilt minority when experiencing these bugs. Thanks!
I have not seen any freezes or lockups yet.
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why wait for a video on a kaiser...isn't that what the demo is for...so you can try it for yourself rather than just speculate...not flaming, just saying...
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Given I just broke my phone (cracked the screen) and had to re-install I don't want to mess with it quite yet.
My main point was that for some people, even if they use this software it wont improve matters because of the driver issues. This might lead them to blame the software (PocketCM worked well on my Hermes, not so well on my Kaiser) when in reality the software is fine, it's the drivers that have problems.
Some of the posts here are encouraging, but I can't quite understand how the software would improve Nick's touch commander and pointui exprience.
If I develop some courage and find time I will try and install it with some before and after shots. I can't be a Negetive Nancy forever....
Does this software interfere with the Cube? Can they co-exist?
So I finally managed to install it :
- First attempt, the Kaiser was unresponsible. Shutdown / restart.
Then didn't find where to restart the welcome wizard...
- Uninstalled, reinstalled : now I follow the wizard
- Scrolling to line 50 is ok...
- Selecting multiple lines won't work.
- Gestures "down-up" ... unable to do it neither (cannot press exit nor next)
Start Menu still works (from the hard button), but I can't select anything with the touchscreen...
I tried from the Program icon to disable the app, no way... Still won't give my touchscreen back.
I'll uninstall it.
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So I finally managed to install it :
- First attempt, the Kaiser was unresponsible. Shutdown / restart.
Then didn't find where to restart the welcome wizard...
- Uninstalled, reinstalled : now I follow the wizard
- Scrolling to line 50 is ok...
- Selecting multiple lines won't work.
- Gestures "down-up" ... unable to do it neither (cannot press exit nor next)
Start Menu still works (from the hard button), but I can't select anything with the touchscreen...
I tried from the Program icon to disable the app, no way... Still won't give my touchscreen back.
I'll uninstall it.
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Is that the demo or bought version you tried?
Demo of course, I won't buy something that didnt convince me
Problems here too
Hi
It installed fine, but when I got to the "gesture" step in the config wizard it hung and I could no longer use the touch screen.
I restarted and all looked fine, it felt much more responsive but then the touchscreen stopped working again. I could still use the hardware buttons, so I uninstalled it and my touchscreen came back (after a further restart of course!).
I am using Dutty's V3 ROM, so perhaps there is some incompatability somewhere.
I have installed the demo, and I must say, there is a noticeable difference in the smoothness of the scrolling versus using the default HTC ftouchflo. Also I was able to complete the tutorial with no hitches. I had the cube installed at first, and I couldn't sense any conflicts between the two. This app will conflict with the scrolling feature of the HTC Ftouchflo (obviously), but after you do the tutorial and it brings you to the setup page it gives you the option to disable the default touchflo scrolling. I have yet to determine which gestures I would like to use, so I haven't configured those yet. Overall I'd say this program is a lot better than the one HTC supplies. I would gladly pay 10 or 12 bucks for it. I wonder how much it costs. hmm let's see.....
20 Duckets!!
I guess I'm gonna hafta play with it some more to see if i really want to lay down 20 bucks for it.
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It installed fine, but when I got to the "gesture" step in the config wizard it hung and I could no longer use the touch screen.
I restarted and all looked fine, it felt much more responsive but then the touchscreen stopped working again. I could still use the hardware buttons, so I uninstalled it and my touchscreen came back (after a further restart of course!).
I am using Dutty's V3 ROM, so perhaps there is some incompatability somewhere.
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Philteale and Sebbes, sounds like we're having identical screen freezing problems. I think the scrolling - when it works - is a lot smoother than TouchFlo...unfortunately, it keeps freezing.
This is a general question about people's experience with Internet speeds on the device.
I have used several different ROMs, both stock and cooked and fine that Internet browsing is very slow.
I usually am getting either 3G or H coverage with 3-4 bars. If I open up the forum site for instance, it could be a good 2 minutes before the browser is responsive enough for me to type anything in. It's almost like the device is so busy rendering the page that it can't even download.
I don't think this is a speed issue, because when I tether my laptop I generally get pretty good speeds, and that same page will come down on my laptop in 15 seconds.
I know that PIE isn't the best browser, but is it really PIE that is causing such slow browsing? I honestly haven't tried opera yet as it seems to always be in a beta and I have read posts about many issues with that browser as well.
Do other's have such a slow time browsing? It's almost embarrasing when I have to pull my device out to look for something quick and it takes 5-10 minutes to get some info of the web.
Again, I don't think this is radio or ROM specific, since I have more or less the same experience on all... I am wondering if there is something up with the connections in my area, although I find this hard to believe as I don't live out in the boonies.
thx.
Use opera
yes iexplorer is slow..
i use opera and 3G its fast !
Isaygarcia said:
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yes iexplorer is slow..
i use opera and 3G its fast !
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I guess it's time I give it a try. There are apparently some new versions floating around from the Diamond? Do these work or should I stick with an older one?
If you could recommend which version I should try for a better experience I would appreciate it. I'll then comment on the differences in speed.
thx
i use the "old" one, but the Diamond one seems to work
bengalih said:
I guess it's time I give it a try. There are apparently some new versions floating around from the Diamond? Do these work or should I stick with an older one?
If you could recommend which version I should try for a better experience I would appreciate it. I'll then comment on the differences in speed.
thx
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I'm trying the newer one. I like the 8.5 version better ( I think that was the one). It was more user friendly.
However, whenever I attempt to open this forum on my device it takes about 3-5 minutes just to get into the Kaiser section.
I typically only use my internet browser for information that can be found in any daily newspaper, which only takes a minute or two during each session to find.
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I'm trying the newer one. I like the 8.5 version better ( I think that was the one). It was more user friendly.
However, whenever I attempt to open this forum on my device it takes about 3-5 minutes just to get into the Kaiser section.
I typically only use my internet browser for information that can be found in any daily newspaper, which only takes a minute or two during each session to find.
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I think there might be some type of script on the (forum) page that slows it down. Once or twice after about 2-3 minutes of waitintg PIE popped something up that said a script was taking longer than expected.
What is so bad is that it locks the whole browser not letting you click "stop" and just browse what has already bee downloaded (which is usually enough). When it does stop, it usually takes you back to last page to start all over again .
I guess I shouldn't be so surpried to think that PIE is crud.... although not all pages are horrible...google and google news and wikipedia aren't too horribly slow.
Bengalih Gsleon3 posted the opera 781 diamond build. In there you will find the 1004 build in pages 3 or 4. I recommend you use opera too, either one will do good, im currently browsing and posting this comment from opera 9.5.
yeah, i have that problem with Pie too, hence why i found my new default browser, opera 9.5.
here is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393947
i am typing this now on 9.5 on a slower Edge connection and it is much faster.
however it does seem a little hard to navigate especially without the stylus.
am i corect in assuming you can't interact (click) on the scren when it is zoomed out? that you must first zoom in?
also i miss the URL dropdown like on PIE are there aditional shotcuts so you don't need to go back into the settings menu each time?
thx
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i am typing this now on 9.5 on a slower Edge connection and it is much faster.
however it does seem a little hard to navigate especially without the stylus.
am i corect in assuming you can't interact (click) on the scren when it is zoomed out? that you must first zoom in?
also i miss the URL dropdown like on PIE are there aditional shotcuts so you don't need to go back into the settings menu each time?
thx
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yeah i noticed that too, i gotten used to the opera functions, indeed sometimes is hard to click links without the stylus. can you provide me a link to the drop down menu? AFAIK even the search button up the page works. it maybe different i guess.
hey all browsers have its shortcoming and i wished this one use the touch flo scrolling.
Am I the only one with this? I tried searching for a solution but no luck so far...
When I am browsing websites with the Opera browser (_every_ version I tested so far) after some time the page doesn't get displayed entirely anymore and the missing parts simply remain black. This ends up in the entire website view becoming black.
To me this looks a lot like a memory issue. Anyone else having this kind of problem?
Cheers,
Alex
You're not alone. I have the same Issue but I mentioned it at only one site. Maybe Opera has some problems with some plugins on that sites.
Having the same problem here, but so far it happened only on the accuweather site... not that i'm browsing very often but that site is the only one that caused the same problem... no idea why though
usadream said:
Having the same problem here, but so far it happened only on the accuweather site... not that i'm browsing very often but that site is the only one that caused the same problem... no idea why though
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Yes, I have the same problem with the Accuweather site. I haven't seen it on any other sites, yet.
i had the same problem today on the bbc website.
I think it might be an issue with frames. There are scrollbars on the bottom of the visible part of the website but only for a second or so while the site renders. They disappear after opera is finished rendering the site. A site that does this is www.studivz.de (very popular social networking site in germany) but only when logged in. Another problem I have is that some sites (php) I can only scroll the site halfway after I zoomed in. After zooming out, the problem is still there however.
I second that with StudiVZ...
As for PHP I don't believe that's the relevant factor - since that only determines the HTML generation - not the resulting HTML code sent to the browser afterwards. So what I am saying is that you most likely could reproduce the same problem with _any_ language by simply sending the same HTML...
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As for PHP I don't believe that's the relevant factor - since that only determines the HTML generation - not the resulting HTML code sent to the browser afterwards. So what I am saying is that you most likely could reproduce the same problem with _any_ language by simply sending the same HTML...
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Didn't know that, thanks!
Good news everyone...
I just tried out Build 1938 of Opera 9.5 and did not encounter the "black holes" anymore.
I used the "upgrade" version from the thread below. Rename the files in /windows/ otherwise they can't be overwritten. Then copy the files from the downloaded .zip file:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2321466&postcount=1
Only tried studivz.net hope this fixes other sites, too.
Unfortunately this build doesn`t change any think in black hole ... if you want to see just go to www.onet.pl
Unfortunately it doesn`t change anything in "Black Hole" :/ Try www.onet.pl still a lot of black holes on my device :/
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Unfortunately this build doesn`t change any think in black hole ... if you want to see just go to www.onet.pl
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I hate to disappoint you but I tried the website, zoomed, panned etc. around a couple of times and encountered no black holes. I am using dutty's 1.6 ROM. Are you sure, you installed the upgrade correctly? In Opera look under help->about opera->(scroll up) if it displays Build 1938. Also remember to soft reset the phone after the upgrade.
regards.
I can confirm that build 1938 solved all my black hole problems, too.
i`m using oryginal 1.93 ROM not cooked maybe this is problem ? Did you upgraded or instal again ?
Updated: Hmmm strange now it works ;D But i have a question to U ... Do you know how to delete these old files ? that i`ve changed the name ... because windows says you cannot delete these files but one of them is 6 Mb so you know that is a lot of free space
Krzysiec said:
Do you know how to delete these old files ? that i`ve changed the name ... because windows says you cannot delete these files but one of them is 6 Mb so you know that is a lot of free space
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Hi. I deleted the files using file explorer running on the diamond itself, not with pc through usb. If this does not work, try using a different file explorer like total commander (free) or resco explorer (trial and buy but much better).
regards
Opera dying
Hi guys,
I flashed my Diamond with Swiftblade's latest which had the new version of Opera on it. But whenever I visit any site such as ebay, natwest or paypal and click on a button, opera dies. It worked fine on IE before I upgraded.
Just wondered if anyone has had a similar problem or knows a fix?!
Can't use the browser at all for now and I don't want to go back to the original ugly T-mobile ROM
Cheers guys!
So... I signed up for the Beta2 of Skyfire at least 4 or 5 months ago and five minutes ago I got a link with my copy of it. I registered my account and installed the cab to discover an awesome full-fledged browser. Has anyone else received the text message for their copy? When starting up Skyfire it says version 0.61.0.4721. Is this Beta 2? Is the version other people have?
-Xidium
thats the one, pretty slick huh
Mine always says that it cannot find the internet. Any inkling as to what it may be going on? I have it downloaded twice so far.
I got mine a couple of days ago, and I really like it.
Hmmm........
michalopoulosgk said:
Mine always says that it cannot find the internet. Any inkling as to what it may be going on? I have it downloaded twice so far.
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Curious, did you follow the instructions from the original thread below or from one of the many duplicate threads that made the .cab itself available?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414383&highlight=skyfire
I ask because the .cab by itself was never intended to work alone as it needs to be registered via phone # and personal info, which acts as your login to use the program. There may be hacks out there(?), but I am not inclined to do legwork to find them, if they do exist that is.
I finally got my text last night.
Downloaded it immediately and love it.
Then, late last night and early this morning, network issues.
Now, it works like a champ again.
maybe there was a problem with the proprietary skyfire servers or something.
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Curious, did you follow the instructions from the original thread below or from one of the many duplicate threads that made the .cab itself available?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414383&highlight=skyfire
I ask because the .cab by itself was never intended to work alone as it needs to be registered via phone # and personal info, which acts as your login to use the program. There may be hacks out there(?), but I am not inclined to do legwork to find them, if they do exist that is.
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I went through all the steps described in your url, used the original cnet100 code and when that did not work I used a bGenius code from another site, I had the cab downloaded both ties, activated, program installed, and then nothing. It cannot find the internet. I have IE, Opera 8.5 and Oopera mini all working very well, no problem with my net connections.
I had the same issue a while back. In my case I disabled the ATT Proxy for the MEdia Net connection and then all worked fine.
michalopoulosgk said:
I went through all the steps described in your url, used the original cnet100 code and when that did not work I used a bGenius code from another site, I had the cab downloaded both ties, activated, program installed, and then nothing. It cannot find the internet. I have IE, Opera 8.5 and Oopera mini all working very well, no problem with my net connections.
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pmcall said:
I had the same issue a while back. In my case I disabled the ATT Proxy for the MEdia Net connection and then all worked fine.
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How did you do that?
I went to their website and followed all the FAQ instructions regarding MediaNet and Proxy etc., it seesm that I have an old version (5.something) I need to get a 6.something version....still trying.
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How did you do that?
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Start|Settings|Connections|Connections|Advanced|Select Networks|MEdia Net|Edit|Proxy Settings| ->uncheck the "This network uses a proxy server ....."
many thanks!
Just downloaded it and have putzing around with it.
things i like: renders pages much like my desktops. Loads pages fairly quickly. Relatively small memory footprint
Things I'm iffy on: chunky scrolling (as opposed to NetFront or Iris), text entry into a separate text box seems redundant to me...and probably some other stuff.
This is running on a stock ATT rom, minus the bloatware. It seems fairly stable.
When on my wifi connection, its quite nice.
Yea I was about to ask about the "chunky scrolling". I've noticed that too. Opera 9.5 isn't like that at all. I was wondering if it was the software or if the new kaiser d3d beta drivers or the omnia drivers helped this at all... I haven't had any of the connection issues that others have had and I do like the small 1.5mb or so space it takes to install compared to ~8mb for Opera.
why am i not getting text messages from skyfire.
i have a valid beta code.
I just downloaded mine, but I haven't had time to play with it yet.
Hmmm I havent gotten any links to download it...... It tells me I have to wait until the beta is released for beta testing? hmmmmm I wonder what I did wrong
I got my text for Beta 2 also. It's definitely much better than Opera and IE, but still no where near the iPhone's Safari browser. I switch between my iPhone and Tilt every couple days and when it comes to browsing Safari is pretty damn good. Skyfire is definitely a step in the right direction.
I've been using this for a week now and have noticed a few things.
1. random freezing. While either loading or on a page, my version will just hang and the Tilt will not respond to anything but a reboot...which, in my case, sucks due to that infernal GoodLink lock app.
2 since this is server based, sometimes I get REALLLY sluggish performance. When rendering a simple text based page (say...like craigslist) the screen redraws are horribly slow and scrolling thru a page brings up the checkerboard pattern until it gets the screen redraw info.
3 my settings for some reason or other...do not stick. For example, I will have smart fit enabled in my default view settings. When I load a page the text does not flow correctly, and I have to enable smart fit again.
4 Load up times: horribly inconsistant. Somedays its quick and zippy and blows other browsers out of the water. Other times...it just wont launch.
Having said that: I realize that this is a beta and is bound to be far from perfect. But while the concept is great, the execution leaves a bit to be desired, especially the network connectivity issues for me.
I also have NetFront (LOVE IT) and the Iris browsers as well as the stock OEM Internet Explorer. I want to like Skyfire, but its just too damn iffy right now, whereas my NetFront and Iris are pretty decent.
This is on a stock Win6 OEM ROM (minus the bloatware)
Is there a Net Front CAB that we can download?