I was browsing, and my eye got on these vflyer listings, they are offering tytn II from 300-550 dollars. they seem kind of weird. do you think it's a scam?!
http://macjoel4u.vflyer.com/4/
http://gsmarketingltd.vflyer.com/1/
http://jacksonsom.vflyer.com/5/
http://kings.vflyer.com/3/
http://omicelectronics.vflyer.com/1/
http://commerce.washingtonpost.com/...rch.cgi?ID=MR00081074_merchandise&src=froogle
http://chicago.handylist.org/list/view_listing/30350122
lungothrin said:
I was browsing, and my eye got on these vflyer listings, they are offering tytn II from 300-550 dollars. they seem kind of weird. do you think it's a scam?!
http://macjoel4u.vflyer.com/4/
http://gsmarketingltd.vflyer.com/1/
http://jacksonsom.vflyer.com/5/
http://kings.vflyer.com/3/
http://omicelectronics.vflyer.com/1/
http://commerce.washingtonpost.com/...rch.cgi?ID=MR00081074_merchandise&src=froogle
http://chicago.handylist.org/list/view_listing/30350122
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No one can afford to sell it for that price.
Known scam. DON'T BUY IT!!
yeh dont buy
the cheapest ive seen so far anywhere in the xda store here. get the discount club for $35 i think it is and you get the Kaiser unlocked for $718 total with the membership and discount. really good deal at $720.
cheapest ive seen anywhere else is $750 and you get free shipping here too. im thinking bout ordering
not to mention, those are kaiser 100s
eric b
e-dub said:
not to mention, those are kaiser 100s
eric b
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whats the difference?? didnt know there was more than one kind
kaiser 100 - no cameras
kaiser 110 - rear camera only
kaiser 120 - both cameras
eric b
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whats the difference?? didnt know there was more than one kind
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100 = no camera
110 = Back Camera
120 = Front and Back Camera.
now wonder they're so cheap...
lol woops, didnt refresh the page to find out someone had posted before me
Western Union?
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not to mention, those are kaiser 100s
eric b
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I just got an email back from this guy who's selling them for $290 on V-Flyer (http://osborneltd.vflyer.com/1/) and he said the following.
[email protected] said:
Hello,
The box content includes:HTC TyTN II Pocket PC Phone
1350mAh Battery
AC adapter (UK plug)
Headset
USB cable
Stylus
Getting started CD
End user license agreement
Warranty card
Quick start guide
User manual
Also the cost of shipping the item to you is $25 via express delivery.Payment should be made via western union money transfer.As soon as you give us the go ahead,I will give you our payment information.Please send your complete shipping address so I will ship the item the moment I get your payment confirmation.
Thank you
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I asked if they are 120s and he said the following:
[email protected] said:
Hello,
Thank you for the questions asked.
The HTC TYTN II will be shipped within the US.We are
not importing from the UK.Also it is the US version
and not th German version.
We only supply that if we have persons from germany
who want to buy and specifically ask for that.
The htc tytn ii is kaiser 120
as you will see when it gets to you.
Also we accept paypal only when you are making large
orders.
But if you pay by western union,your payment will be
confirmed online at once and your item will be shipped
out.I will give you the tracking number as soon as
your item is shipped.It should get to you in 1
business day maximum.
Waiting to hear further from you.
I will give you a call shortly.
Thank you.
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The Western Union thing sounds shakey but he says he's in Florida and tried to call me on the phone although no one was there. Hopefully he's not using the phone he wants to sell me. LOL
Any more thoughts? I can't find any posts about how this is a known scam other than this post.
TyTN4Me said:
I just got an email back from this guy who's selling them for $290 on V-Flyer (http://osborneltd.vflyer.com/1/) and he said the following.
I asked if they are 120s and he said the following:
The Western Union thing sounds shakey but he says he's in Florida and tried to call me on the phone although no one was there. Hopefully he's not using the phone he wants to sell me. LOL
Any more thoughts? I can't find any posts about how this is a known scam other than this post.
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Well, I warned you. I'm not sure how clearer I can be.
They (and others like them) post the same junk here on a constant basis. Some have fallen for it and, surprise, they've lost their money.
No offense, but just use some common sense. Do you really think any company can sell merchandise for way below cost? Where's the profit?
As the old saying goes, "If it sounds to good to be true..."
Western Union = Scam
THANKS!
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Well, I warned you. I'm not sure how clearer I can be.
They (and others like them) post the same junk here on a constant basis. Some have fallen for it and, surprise, they've lost their money.
No offense, but just use some common sense. Do you really think any company can sell merchandise for way below cost? Where's the profit?
As the old saying goes, "If it sounds to good to be true..."
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Western Union = Scam
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Thanks guys for talking me off the cliff!
Sure way to determine if the guy is a scam is see if he's willing to take a credit card for payment or anything other than Western Union.
The scammers know Western Union is their only way to steal.
trjons said:
Sure way to determine if the guy is a scam is see if he's willing to take a credit card for payment or anything other than Western Union.
The scammers know Western Union is their only way to steal.
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Yep, ask them if they accept paypal or not, because only paypal has money back guarantee!
TyTN4Me said:
I just got an email back from this guy who's selling them for $290 on V-Flyer (http://osborneltd.vflyer.com/1/) and he said the following.
I asked if they are 120s and he said the following:
The Western Union thing sounds shakey but he says he's in Florida and tried to call me on the phone although no one was there. Hopefully he's not using the phone he wants to sell me. LOL
Any more thoughts? I can't find any posts about how this is a known scam other than this post.
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so he said that they are the ones with BOTH cameras... that would be cool..
see if you can find out where in FL,if he will give you an adress i'll try to drive over and make sure its for real, if it is i would be buying one and i could pick yours up and ship it for you so theres no chance of a scam.
Related
I've heard lots of people here talking about buying their kaisers for $200, EVEN $99!! Where on Earth do you find such a good deal? I have been in the market for weeks on Ebay and can only find ones for $500+. Does anyone have some advice for me on where I can pick one up for at most $400? Anyone selling or know of somebody selling theirs? I don't care if it isn't unlocked or still has the AT&T ROM... I can manage that. Anyways, I could really use some insight from you people. Any info would help. Thanks!
i just sent you a pm
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i just sent you a pm
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plz, sent me PM.
pm
yes let me know as well please
Actually I would be interested to know where you can get a Kaiser for such low prices. Preferably in Europe/UK though. Any suggestions??
well am selling mine for £200 (about $400) it has marks on it hence the low price. pm me if you want more info
I didn't know if there was already a thread for a topic like this. Looks like others are in the same boat as me.
i tried to put a tread on about selling my kaiser before but no one was interested then. so hopefuly i will sell it now
ebay
It's where i got mine from... £300 in november
if in the US (may work elsewhere too), you can get in on Amazon for $149 with contract renewal or new contract
http://www.amazon.com/AT-T-Tilt-Sma...sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1200335133&sr=8-1
also to me...
thanks
Orangle love me long time, so gave me mine for free
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if in the US (may work elsewhere too), you can get in on Amazon for $149 with contract renewal or new contract
http://www.amazon.com/AT-T-Tilt-Sma...sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1200335133&sr=8-1
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I live in Canada, is there someway of getting around this?
aye am going to put it on ebay tomorrow for £250-£300 just thought i would offer you guys here at xda-devs a chance to get one cheaper
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I live in Canada, is there someway of getting around this?
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Do you have ATT service in your area? if so, then you should be able to buy it too. I only said US only because I wasn't sure if the deal would apply to other countries as well. Since it does ask for a zip code to verify availablity I would assume it would work in canada as well. Try it, see if it accepts your zip.
send a PM to me too, i want where can i buy it to
Steal it at HTC manufacture !!! just kidding
AT&T is only for US residents
*sigh*
I guess I'll keep searching ebay.
ill put mine up on the chopping block for $400... its in great condition...
mines got the ab-fab wifi router working on it...
smittyofdhs said:
if in the US (may work elsewhere too), you can get in on Amazon for $149 with contract renewal or new contract
http://www.amazon.com/AT-T-Tilt-Sma...sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1200335133&sr=8-1
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Newegg has a little bit of a better deal. Comes out to $129 after all rebates. You can get a free bluetooth headset too during the checkout although you do have to pay $5 shipping.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875998228
hey guys,
I was about to put this up on ebay but then I suddenly decided to offer it up on here since it is this place that helped me get it up and running with a good ROM in the first place.
I have used this tilt for less than a week. I have never dropped it and there are no scratches. I used it for the BB connect and when it comes to BB nothing does it better than an actual BB. while the Tilt is better than the BB in every other way... I realized that I never use anything else the phone offers.
anyway... I can provide pictures if you want. I just need to take a couple good ones (attached ones I took with iPhone are all blurry).
I have all of the original packaging. I also have a new never opened 3-in-1 2gb Micro SD card (Sandisk) and Car Charger (ATT Branded) to go with it.
Im not looking for any specific price... just make me a reasonable offer.
Is there a reason you don't just return it?
Ok I have heard of people getting these for several prices so reasonable could be any number. I'll give ya $125
because I hate dealing with AT&T customer service and would rather take a loss than go through the pain.
I honestly dont need nor care about the money.
Will even take a trade if its interesting enough
and I would rather offer a good deal to someone on this board (lots of great people here) than give it back to ATT.
ill offer 126.00 because i can get it thru premier for 150 but id rather not give att any more money then the 300$ each month i give them
on a side note you should try selling it on hofo i let a tilt go few months ago for 510$ shipped on there..granted it was NIB but still
126$ isnt off the table... but would anyone happen to have a GPS unit Like a garmain or tomtom) they would want to trade for it?
does this phone still have warranty through at&t? like is the imei clean?
no reason it wouldnt be. came direct from ATT. arrived March 21 and I started using it on March 27. I was out of town on business when it came in.
would this work / also I have sent you a PM
http://shopdelphi.com/consumers/mobilenav/nav200us/
ill give ya £80 for it
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would this work / also I have sent you a PM
http://shopdelphi.com/consumers/mobilenav/nav200us/
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I Can get that from NewEgg for 99$ new. would rather take the $126 and get a new one and have some left
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ill give ya £80 for it
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£80 is the new best offer!
80.00 EUR = 125.270 USD
Euro United States Dollars
yeah I know... for some reason my other line of txt didnt make it in there... I said that as a joke... the international shipping alone would be too much hassel.
so to clarify... no international shipping... lower 48 only. I am in Ohio to give you an idea of where it will be coming from.
Heading out to work shortly, will check mail from mobile for a reply to my PM. Thank You.
actually chumley, £80 is about £160 USD
the exchange rate for 1GBP is about 2.1USD
remind me not to let any of yall exchange my money.
Ill give your $200 for it, that $74 higher than anyone else and you can keep your memory I have an extra 8gb. I just really do hope its in the condition your saying its in.
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yeah I know... for some reason my other line of txt didnt make it in there... I said that as a joke... the international shipping alone would be too much hassel.
so to clarify... no international shipping... lower 48 only. I am in Ohio to give you an idea of where it will be coming from.
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holy ****
this unit retails for £450 ($800+) in the UK!
i paid £230 for mine on ebay and that was cheap! (and its an HTC branded device)
ahhhh, u americans get everything cheaper than us
mcall_r said:
holy ****
this unit retails for £450 ($800+) in the UK!
i paid £230 for mine on ebay and that was cheap! (and its an HTC branded device)
ahhhh, u americans get everything cheaper than us
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were priveleged like that. then we get to pay taxes and die. we even get to pay taxes FOR dying.
$200 is the best offer so far.
Keep in mind that I WILL take a trade. so offer whatever you have... doesnt need to be cell phone related
I'll choose a winner at 5pm eastern. there is 2.5hrs from this post.
we can do it however you want. I can even organize with you to create an ebay auction and have you buy-it-now as soon as I up it. I take paypal as well... can send invoice for your protection.
if you want high quality pictures before you submit payment then I can do that tonight or tomorrow morning.
selling my tilt with extra battery desktop charger 2gb memory card and 5 screen covers and case for 300 will ship no over seas
will give you 375 (together with shipping) if you ship to Europe, Moldova
its cuboosh in disguise.
redbandana said:
its cuboosh in disguise.
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ah??????????????
dimushor said:
ah??????????????
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394724
do u think he is the guy? he sent me pictures of the device.
dimushor said:
do u think he is the guy? he sent me pictures of the device.
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who knows maybe it is maybe it isn't
dimushor said:
do u think he is the guy? he sent me pictures of the device.
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I have pictures of this bridge I own. Want to buy it? Only $10 million!
Use your noodle mate. The seller is new to the forum and has 3 posts... You're going to trust him with your cash? Be sensible and buy it from a known seller.
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I have pictures of this bridge I own. Want to buy it? Only $10 million!
Use your noodle mate. The seller is new to the forum and has 3 posts... You're going to trust him with your cash? Be sensible and buy it from a known seller.
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i haven't even notice that he was new on the forum. i know that CUSTER had some for sale, and now he does not answer. may be somebody else has a Tilt for sale?
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i haven't even notice that he was new on the forum. i know that CUSTER had some for sale, and now he does not answer. may be somebody else has a Tilt for sale?
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get one on ebay.
redbandana said:
get one on ebay.
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i know about ebay. but on the forum there are better offers. for instance, CUSTER's offer was great.
dimushor said:
i know about ebay. but on the forum there are better offers. for instance, CUSTER's offer was great.
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Not so great if you get a lint roller in return, is it?
thats wrong
what is your problem man i have box and everything i showed you pics if you like i will send you pic of how much i paid and recpit of my credit card
@bluesonicc, don't take offense but there is a big thread going on here about guys that were scammed recently by member(s) selling tilts and sending lint rollers, candles, etc. Seriously, I think your best bet would be to use eBay/craigslist to sell your phone. You'd probably end up getting more money for it anyway. As is at this point, though, you're going to run into a lot of paranoia over your proposed sale.
hey
i understand what you mean but i have shown everything to this guy full pics and now sending him video of me useing it with todays date it was my girlsfreind phone we broke up and not i wont to get rid of it i never sold anything on ebay b4 not to sure how to use it so thats y i came on here i know it sounds good to be true but i told him that i would use paypal so if he dont like it paypal will him get his money back i told him that i would give money back if he dident like it just upset i know that are bad people out there but its like there calling me a lier and dont even know me im proving as much as i can to him with out him just seeing the phone
Without a decent history here or on HoFo, your not going to get very far.
As stated before, sign up on eBay and list it there. That way the buyer and seller are protected (sort of).
And use punctuation and caps in the proper places.
taken today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KemqQfy617Q
guys, he provided me with videos of the device, with "Chisinau, Moldova" written on it and tthe device near my posts on the forum. so he is clear i think
Thanks
Thanks for posting that for me
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guys, he provided me with videos of the device, with "Chisinau, Moldova" written on it and tthe device near my posts on the forum. so he is clear i think
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You're not getting it - the scammer had all sorts of pictures of the Tilts he was selling. And yet, when the buyers opened their deliveries, they found lint rollers, candles and other assorted crap.
Just because a seller can prove that he is in possession of a Tilt does not guarantee that there will be a Tilt in the box you receive.
That doesn't mean, of course, that this particular seller is a/the scammer. If you trust him and feel that this is a good deal, then go for it. Nobody's stopping you.
But don't expect a lot of sympathy from this forum if you get screwed.
So i am the owner of a Diamond now.
The thing is i have 2 old HTC's of which both have a broken screen, maybe someone in 'the scene' can find a good use for them.
I am offering a t-mobile(nl) branded kaiser with a broken screen to the first one that wants to pay shipment!
so be quick!
I've been looking for this (see my signature). PM sent.
Where are you shipping from? And how are you willing to accept payment? I'm willing to paypal you money for that.
ok i am shipping from holland. I don't know if it will be fair if i make a action out of it.
but just out of couriousity what will a kaiser with broken screen go for these days?
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ok i am shipping from holland. I don't know if it will be fair if i make a action out of it.
but just out of couriousity what will a kaiser with broken screen go for these days?
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I'm not exactly sure, however from what i see is around $40 or so. I have a friend selling his Kaiser with a broken keyboard for 40 and another person PMed me with a cracked screen for that price as well.
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ok i am shipping from holland. I don't know if it will be fair if i make a action out of it.
but just out of couriousity what will a kaiser with broken screen go for these days?
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Not sure what you mean action, but you did offer it for free + shipping. Kareem would have dibs on it in my opinion. And it's a little late to see what you can sell it for. (in my opinion again)
Shipping from Holland? Ur profile has you down as Fido.ca (canada) and you have the USA flag. lol
I'm just looking for any Kaiser to flash ROMs on. I hate flashing ROMs and hours of testing on my single Kaiser as it gets tedious to recustomize everything. As long as it's flashable, i'm okay. If you end up wanting to sell it, that is your business and i wouldn't interfere.
Lol peterfnet, it's when people register and forget to change it so i think he hasn't gotten a chance to change it. When i saw the (nl) his post, i knew it would be coming from the Netherlands area .
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Lol peterfnet, it's when people register and forget to change it so i think he hasn't gotten a chance to change it. When i saw the (nl) his post, i knew it would be coming from the Netherlands area .
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I was hoping he was an early adopter that paid for some Euro version and was a Canadian that left for the fantastic US of A
haha the great us of a i just love my little pod smoking social country
Anyways i decided to keep my promiss, and offer it to the first one that reacts and is willing to pay for shipping.
in this case that is kareem, and nr 2 is lfuc!
Where in Holland are you?
You have a pm.
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Not sure what you mean action, but you did offer it for free + shipping. Kareem would have dibs on it in my opinion. And it's a little late to see what you can sell it for. (in my opinion again)
Shipping from Holland? Ur profile has you down as Fido.ca (canada) and you have the USA flag. lol
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well people are allowed to change their mind.
unbrick your tytn2 (kaiser) and buya new screen for 15 euro!!then sold it!
grow up your experience with this xda!!it's beautiful but you MUST BE not religious
um.....oh yes and I hear the daises are blooming in the red square this time of the year, but be careful not to trip over the crocodiles.
(Forgot who said that originally)
luxxx said:
So i am the owner of a Diamond now.
The thing is i have 2 old HTC's of which both have a broken screen, maybe someone in 'the scene' can find a good use for them.
I am offering a t-mobile(nl) branded kaiser with a broken screen to the first one that wants to pay shipment!
so be quick!
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Hey,
Do you still have the phone? As my tytn (I) is having some problems.
I also live in the netherlands, so shipping wouldn't be a problem.
So I tend to list my old phones on Gumtree, due to eBay's crazy fees. With eBay and Paypal, you sell a phone for £400 and give them £40 of it! Kinda crazy really.
Anyway, everytime I list an item on Gumtree (even through I state I wont ship internationally) I get e-mails people telling me they will pay me X+£100 via Paypal.
Of course I always either ignore or reply telling them I wont ship outside of the UK at which point they don't reply.
What I'm curious about is, how do they work the scam? Paypal is generally quite safe isn't it? Do they claim after two week's they haven't received the item? Does the money just never get to Paypal and they try and talk you in to sending it before it's there?
I'm half tempted to ask one of them to pay the money, me with no intention of sending the phone anywhere, just to see what happens...
http://reviews.ebay.com/PAYPAL-BUYER-SCAM-EXTREMELY-IMPORTANT-INFORMATION_W0QQugidZ10000000000114286
Basically unless you have proof that you have sent, and that they have signed for an item, PayPal will refund the money.
a specific example
So from the example, even if you have proof that the package was delivered, Paypal are likely to give the money back?
I wonder what happens if I ask the scammers to transfer direct into my bank account?
That's made me a little nervous now. I've just sold my DHD on eBay, the guy has paid with Paypal right away.
What are the safest steps for me next? I simply post it via recorded delivery and submit the tracking number to eBay somewhere?
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That's made me a little nervous now. I've just sold my DHD on eBay, the guy has paid with Paypal right away.
What are the safest steps for me next? I simply post it via recorded delivery and submit the tracking number to eBay somewhere?
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and on paypal too
Thinking about it, I should probably do it special delivery, because that is insured. So if he claims its damaged or something, I can go back to Royal Mail?
Now... the other thing, the guy is only 7 miles away, I'd prefer to drop it over to him. If I get him to sign a 'receipt' do you think Paypal would accept it? I guess I'm actually safer posting it now, he's paid for postage, so he could claim I made it up, where's my postage info...
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I'm half tempted to ask one of them to pay the money, me with no intention of sending the phone anywhere, just to see what happens...
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I replied to a spam scam once, I gave him the crime stoppers number as my mobile number. Idiot didn't notice what is was, just asked for my personal number. At that point I ignored.
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Thinking about it, I should probably do it special delivery, because that is insured. So if he claims its damaged or something, I can go back to Royal Mail?
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So long as you keep the receipt for postage, and make a note of the time and date, where you posted it etc, the Post Office will refund up to £30 (I think that's the amount anyway) for missing items, after they have investigated. Anything more expensive, and I would suggest you send it with insurance anyway.
Are you guys serious??????
just search "gumtree scams paypal moneysavingexpert" on google (sorry can't post links)
That's why I stopped using gumtree overall. It is nothing but a scam den! Now I use other safer sites like movethat.com or bonsoni.com
Not if you're careful. I've not been scammed once using Gumtree and I've made more money from each sale as I'm not giving eBay and Paypal 12% of my sale. You could say that in itself is the biggest scam...
I do still use eBay, cause we don't really have any other auction alternatives do we?
Yes if you are smart then you should be ok (although my smart cousin lost his deposit money for a flat) . But the problem is Internet is available to everyone, even to the granny who never used a comp before.
usually these kind of naive people are becoming a victim. Just search gumtree fraud or gumtree scam on google news search thousands on result come up! Apparently police stopped taking this crime reports as they are too many of them.
You are not giving that 12% to ebay and paypal but do remember that actually you are doing them a favour by using gumtree, which is own by ebay and paypal.
That's what happened when capitalism reach at its pick and consumers don't have much choice.
Once again I prefer to use other smaller and safer sites then any of the above named site.
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I do still use eBay, cause we don't really have any other auction alternatives do we?
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eBid.net is an alternative to Ebay.
The alternative I used for Gumtree.com is OzAdz.com. I love their Personals section lol.
Mercedes325 said:
eBid.net is an alternative to Ebay.
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I don't think it's a viable alternative though. For example, there's 1 Nexus S for sale on eBid. If I'm looking for a phone, why would I go to eBid. If I'm selling, why would I start an auction on eBid, next to no-one see's it and my item sells at a crazy low price
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I don't think it's a viable alternative though. For example, there's 1 Nexus S for sale on eBid. If I'm looking for a phone, why would I go to eBid. If I'm selling, why would I start an auction on eBid, next to no-one see's it and my item sells at a crazy low price
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One reason to use smaller websites like ebid is because less people will bid, so you may pick up a bargain.
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One reason to use smaller websites like ebid is because less people will bid, so you may pick up a bargain.
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That's exactly what I'm saying, thanks. Very bad for sellers, not a viable option.