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Battery Power Poor. Any advise?

Hi.
I don't seem to last a day without recharging my battery (either by USB or Outlet).
I have some useful programs but I'm afraid to use them sometimes because my phone wont last the day.
On a regular day, without extreme program usage (WiFi, GPS, games etc), just regular phone calls (GSM not 3G), my battery power lasts maybe 18 hours.
If i used 1/4 of my installed programs moderetely, my battery power lasts for about 10-12 hours.
I would like your professional advise to better by battery life.
1. Would changing my ROM to a better modified one solve my issue?
2. Is there a backround process (that is not detected my my task manager) working that I should know about?
3. Are there any tweaks (non registry) that I can do to better the life?
4. Are there any registry fixes that can be done to better the life?
5. Do third party cabs (SPB etc.) drain the battery life even if they are idle?
6. Does letting my battery fully drain and then fully charging it over and over really help the overall battery life?
FYI: I have the OEM ROM, my phone had never been Hard reseted before
I have tried all sorts of things, but I cannot manage to get my phone to last more than a day.
I would really appreciate your advise.
Thanks.
P.S please dont tell me that you people go 2-3 days without charging (that would hurt my feelings )

my kaiser lasts about 10 hours if heavily used, I mean 3G internet always on, browsing with opera mini all while listening to MP3s..
With normal usage and 3G coverage (but classic talks, not video ones) it last al least 2 days..
that's strange

Hi,
i managed to have good power after alot of research and tweaks on this forum.
-disable 3g service
-make sure no application auto-enable wifi, make sure its off.
-make sure device is set lock all buttons
on normal days with just afew calls and very little surfing, i my battery life is the same as other non-pda phones!

boojingyou said:
-make sure device is set lock all buttons
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What do you mean with locking all the buttons?

Would updating my RADIO help?

bluemamba said:
Would updating my RADIO help?
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Default ROM sucks. The registry is setup completely ineffecient (like all M$ software) so eats capacity and battery.
Best thing to do is check the 'Kaiser upgrading' thread and compare the radio version you have with what's posted there and see if you could improver performance. I'm still on the original radio that it cam with, but trying multiple Rom's dramatically improved battery life. That and speed and performance. Their is much to gain, my friend.
I advise you read the articles about CID and SIM unlocking before attemting to flash anything.

Upgrade your radio to 1.27.12.17/32, turn off 3G and flash some clean ROM (like Q-Mobile - see in my signature )
My phone can survive now more than 3 days on normal usage. Before it could live 2-3 days max.

Maybe can you enable alimentation tweaks with KaiserTweak to begin ?

MickyMax said:
Maybe can you enable alimentation tweaks with KaiserTweak to begin ?
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I dont think and fixes of those kind will do anything
I think what Maarten_0031 and gabriel31337 say is the obly way. I will reseach what kinda ROM best fits my need and let u know

I'm using Schap's and very happy with it...

MickyMax said:
I'm using Schap's and very happy with it...
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On average, how long does your bettery last?

2 / 3 days... Some phone calls, wifi and 3G
Much better than the HTC ROM !

MickyMax said:
2 / 3 days... Some phone calls, wifi and 3G
Much better than the HTC ROM !
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Very nice. I think i might try that.

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Battery Power Poor. Any advise?
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Spell correctly, charge it.

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Spell correctly, charge it.
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You spell correctly and keep to the topic

Just got my Kaiser yesterday. Left it to charge all night and removed it by 7:30 am. At 16:00, battery shows 14% left?!?!?!?
What the heck?
Did all the power tweaks from KaiserTweak.
Lets see how it goes without 3G and with the tweaks I did today.
ROM: 1.81.415.4 WWE
Radio 1.27.15.32
Protocol: 22.51.88.13H

it can't be stated enough how quickly your battery will die if you have your mailboxes checking for new mail 'as they come in' or 'every 5 minutes', etc. if you have important emails your expecting then turn it to those settings, but if you don't care if you get your mail only every hour then go that route - it makes a big difference in the battery life.. also make sure you have the disconnect option in kaiser tweak set on - i have mine set at disconnect after 2 minutes.. and finally, if you can get away with using edge then have your phone always set to edge and only set to 3g for web surfing - pulling down your text based email in edge and not 3g is usually a pretty negligible difference.
on a side note, i bought a 3000mAH battery for about $70.. it improves the battery life a decent amount, but the reality is is that if you use the GPS for 2-3 hours without having it plugged in while using the GPS then you can always expect the battery to be dead by the end of the day (or sooner).. if your going to use it as a GPS then have it plugged in..

its all about wifi...turn it off if not needed.

This has been discussed in many previous threads.
All the above are applicable and also get rid of any fancy today plugins that show data state (WiFi-phone) and battery condition as they are constantly running and polling the relevant devices.
You will see a VAST difference when you do that.

Kaiser sucks Battery - a solution and a hint

Hi all,
just after I had my new Kaiser month agao I was collecting all kind of
software to fit my needs. And short after that I realized - my Kaiser sucks
the battery within hours
A battery tool that shows the temperature and the current showed me:
250 to 350 mA all the time. For a 1300mA/h battery this means 4 to 5 hours
or less.
The other day I removed all installed goodies - and surprise! Sometimes the
current drain was down to 10mA.
To make the story short: remove all timer software.They eat up your battery!
I had installed two of them! One to alert if park-tickets are expired and one
timer to remind me for meetings! Those little bastards apparently run in tight
loops, check the time constantly and use up the most power.
Power consumption is now low as 15mA in idle times.
good luck with your Kaiser / Tilt
wkm1

Hi!
so this would also apply to alarms set in Outlook for meetings? My meetings are often same time, same people every week, so better to not use alarms for those....
I think my Kaiser needs a charge every 36 hours......
Ofiaich

ofiaich said:
Hi!
so this would also apply to alarms set in Outlook for meetings? My meetings are often same time, same people every week, so better to not use alarms for those....
I think my Kaiser needs a charge every 36 hours......
Ofiaich
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No, I think you'll find he's only referring to third party apps not Windows Mobile functions themselves.
He has a good point. people in other threads have found many fancy Today screen apps (always running) that show memory usage, comms, and battery status are polling the equipment on a regular basis also using lots of battery power.

Thanks Farsquidge!
I will leave my Outlook as it is then !
I think my screen is quite simple as compared with some in the post your today screen thread !
Ofiaich

Possibly stating the obvious here but i never knew so here we go...
Change the settings so the data connection is not always on, and only connects when looking for email, web browsing etc.
Its doubled my battery life.

What tool did you use? I'd like to optimize my apps too.
wkm1 said:
Hi all,
just after I had my new Kaiser month agao I was collecting all kind of
software to fit my needs. And short after that I realized - my Kaiser sucks
the battery within hours
A battery tool that shows the temperature and the current showed me:
250 to 350 mA all the time. For a 1300mA/h battery this means 4 to 5 hours
or less.
The other day I removed all installed goodies - and surprise! Sometimes the
current drain was down to 10mA.
To make the story short: remove all timer software.They eat up your battery!
I had installed two of them! One to alert if park-tickets are expired and one
timer to remind me for meetings! Those little bastards apparently run in tight
loops, check the time constantly and use up the most power.
Power consumption is now low as 15mA in idle times.
good luck with your Kaiser / Tilt
wkm1
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[email protected] said:
What tool did you use? I'd like to optimize my apps too.
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And what battery life are people expecting. I have SPB's GPRS monitor installed and it is claiming I will get a little under 6 hours (which compares to 8 on my Hermes).

Schooleydoo said:
Possibly stating the obvious here but i never knew so here we go...
Change the settings so the data connection is not always on, and only connects when looking for email, web browsing etc.
Its doubled my battery life.
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I second this. I moved from direct push to polling every 10 minutes, and set the connection to drop after 30 seconds (annoying for browsing the web) and the phone loses less than 2% battery overnight.
Surur

how do you modify the internet connection to disconnect after a certain period of inactivity? i can't seem to figure it out.....

dmb129 said:
how do you modify the internet connection to disconnect after a certain period of inactivity? i can't seem to figure it out.....
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Use KaiserTweak. It's in a sticky.

do you have any idea where i could find the individual .cab for this function? rather than using KaiserTweak?

hi,
i tryed to "i guess disable the wifi hardware", and all animations in order to have a greater battery life (with kaiser tweak) , but my phone needs to be charged for 6 to 6 hours...
this phone has a battery problem, for sure, i hope someday, HTC solves this problem....
sorry about the english....

I had an alarm clock to ring every Saturday morning, on for the whole week...I took it off today, following this thread. It appears to have made a huge positive difference in the length of the battery! Many thanks for a good tip.

michalopoulosgk said:
I had an alarm clock to ring every Saturday morning, on for the whole week...I took it off today, following this thread. It appears to have made a huge positive difference in the length of the battery! Many thanks for a good tip.
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What alarm application did you use? I'll test it with mine the following days and let you know the result.

I had my office outlook active sync basically "always on". I just switched it to every 10 min during peak and every 30 min off peak. We'll see how much better that goes.
I've definitely noticed that keeping the wifi turned off until necessary helps a lot. I'm using Tmobile here in the US, so no 3G yet. I've been told that 3G sucks battery as well.

3G consumes more power. Use GSM network only.
start -> settings -> Phone -> Band Tab -> Select network type as GSM

wkm1 said:
Hi all,
just after I had my new Kaiser month agao I was collecting all kind of
software to fit my needs. And short after that I realized - my Kaiser sucks
the battery within hours
A battery tool that shows the temperature and the current showed me:
250 to 350 mA all the time. For a 1300mA/h battery this means 4 to 5 hours
or less.
wkm1
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Please let me know what battery tool...... want to check mu Tytn II too.... battery only lasts for HOURS!!!!
Many thanks,

Optimistisch_nl said:
Please let me know what battery tool...... want to check mu Tytn II too.... battery only lasts for HOURS!!!!
Many thanks,
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FYI, I had to return my Tytn2 yesterday. It lost 100% battery power within 4-5 hours. It was warm to the touch and when charging would become very hot. I put Batterystatus on and it read a draw of 300-400mA when idle. This was also after a Hard reset to check that nothing else I had added to the unit was causing it.
My replacement draws between 20-80mA when idle and 220-250mA when under load i.e. using Wi-Fi, browsing web etc. Battery went from 54% when I got it (1pm) to 26% by the time I went to bed at midnight last night
It sounds like you have a similar problem?

I've set 2 alarm applications to run last night: the alarm in Mortplayer and Pocket Wakeup.
I charged the battery to 100% before I went to sleep. In the morning, after about 6 hours of sleep, my battery meter showed 94%.
This gives an easy calculation of about 1% per hour (with those 2 alarms active).
I don't know if it makes a difference to uninstall the applications or just not using them in terms of battery usage. Anyone an idea?

smads said:
FYI, I had to return my Tytn2 yesterday. It lost 100% battery power within 4-5 hours. It was warm to the touch and when charging would become very hot. I put Batterystatus on and it read a draw of 300-400mA when idle. This was also after a Hard reset to check that nothing else I had added to the unit was causing it.
My replacement draws between 20-80mA when idle and 220-250mA when under load i.e. using Wi-Fi, browsing web etc. Battery went from 54% when I got it (1pm) to 26% by the time I went to bed at midnight last night
It sounds like you have a similar problem?
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Is this 'Battery Status' part of an app??? Please let us know as this itself can draw power if it is constantly polling the battery. (Heisenberg principle??)

Questions about Kaiser battery life

I've been researching this phone and I really like it so far, but I have a question about the battery.
I've read about the battery lasting something like 9 hours or so.. now my question is that 9 hours while constantly in use?
For example if I leave my house at 3:00 PM with a full charge hang out with my friends, end up at a bar at night, and I maybe talk for 20 minutes, send 5 txt messages and barely mess with the phone, will the phone dying around Midnight?

With that type of light usage it can last a day or even two deopending on how you config. & the radio you use.
The +or- 6-8 hours is with wifi, BT, 3g data usage, gps, etc...

I make it about half the day(5-6 hours), but I've got AgileMobile running all day using 3G connection so I'm assuming I'm running normally. This is greatly improved by switching off 3G(adds another 2-3 hours). I put maybe 15-30 minutes of calls on my phone a day, it's mostly a mobile web browser and instant messenger.
To get through a full day for me I charge the phone in my jeep while driving to / from work, and most days I eat lunch out so I charge it then as well.

Thanks for the replies. I will probably have all data connections turned off, and won't run GPS on days like that.
I really dig this phone, I just got a little worried about the chance that I won't go home after some heavy drinking and won't have a phone to use in the morning...
Also, I just read on a website review from Laptopmag.com that said "We left a fully charged Tilt on over a long weekend, and when we returned, the unit still had three out of four bars of battery life"... What do you think?

Well I think if you upgrade to wm6.1, you should gt alot better battery life.
I was sick (in bed most of the day) yesterday so I took my phone off charge at about 7am in the morning.
I sent some messages, surfed the internet with hsdpa for about 3 hours (and this is in a bad signal area, which means more battery consumption)
then did some wifi (20mins)
and a bluetooth recieve or two.
I just checked the battery level this morning (8am) and I still had 57% left. I was abit surprised because I thought it will have drained by now like it did with wm6. The point is wm6.1 has a lot better battery life. So for maxumum battery life you should upgrade.
Just my 2 cents

Battery life...
Hi I have had the kaiser for not long really... there's a neat program that tells you what is the drain, of the battery...
well if you are not touching it and not doing anything it drains about 6-10ma, so based on that yes, it can last for a looooooooong time, now when you call it goes to 200-400ma, so yes it drains more battery there. ( as you would think it would )
then again you can have the backlight to low, to use less battery, also, turn the screen off when not using it, and change the radio an a lot of hacks.
based on my experience using EDGE, the GPS, the screen, playing a game, sending some mms, and talking, it can really kill your battery in no time.
but you can also well get a car charger ( be carefull with those ) or a better battery, because to be realistic the one that comes default really sucks...
I have seen people talking about a 3000mah battery so that could really drive the phone for a loooooooong time, better think about other issues, like how sucky the camera is... ( maybe with the video drivers we are wating for this will get fixed ), also well, sometimes the performance is not that good, ( also video drivers I think ), besides that, and if you don't mind like I do, to have to wait for a few seconds to get things going on, the phone is a real jewel, if you live life in the fast lane, well maybe that second to open the keyboard will kill you
TC !

chuby007 said:
or a better battery, because to be realistic the one that comes default really sucks...
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which one do u recommend? also where can u find this battery?
thanks

^^
Seidio 1650 battery and the Mugen 1500 batteries seem to be good oem size batteries from I have read. THere is a thread on the Kaiser Accessories board about batteries.......

I had a similar experience with excessive current consumption in standby, likely caused by the GPS though it is off (see Post "TyTN II / Kaiser issue: GPS & battery drain").
Perhaps you should install "BatteryStatus". Make yourself familiar with the battery current display, and try to figure out how much power your device draws.
Another nice test is, switch all units off (phone, WLAN, Bluetooth, GPS, really everything). Make sure no program is running (TaskManager). Leave the fully charged phone alone for 5 hours or so. Recheck the battery capacity whether it dropped more than very few percent. If you do not need GPS frequently, you may simply try a soft reset. If you have interesting results, please be so kind and add them to the abovementioned thread, too.
BusterTyTN

Battery flat after one night

Yesterday I left the diamond on my desk. This morning it was dead. After some charging I could switch it on and as expected the battery was as flat as it can get. But why?! I'm sure I closed all applications yesterday!
Seems I got an very unreliable phone now... You never know if you can use it some hours later... Not really what I expect of a phone.

Again a new thread which is completely senseless... there are many topics about the battery. Better to find a solution there, than to clog the forum with complaint topics about the same subject over and over again.

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to clean the diamond threads up...this is just getting silly

murks_muell said:
Yesterday I left the diamond on my desk. This morning it was dead. After some charging I could switch it on and as expected the battery was as flat as it can get. But why?! I'm sure I closed all applications yesterday!
Seems I got an very unreliable phone now... You never know if you can use it some hours later... Not really what I expect of a phone.
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Remember to close Data Connections from CommManager. And if you don't use WCDMA, switch band type to GSM (CommManager -> Settings -> Band -> Select your network type). Bad WCDMA-band signal eats battery like lion.

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Again a new thread which is completely senseless... there are many topics about the battery. Better to find a solution there, than to clog the forum with complaint topics about the same subject over and over again.
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As is your post...
I don't complain about short battery life! Less than one night must be a failure. I already have switched off 3G network and GPRS. I read some of the other battery threads but they didn't help me.
So what else can I do? Something is eating battery - but what?

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As is your post...
I don't complain about short battery life! Less than one night must be a failure. I already have switched off 3G network and GPRS. I read some of the other battery threads but they didn't help me.
So what else can I do? Something is eating battery - but what?
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My post is in one of those useless complaint threads.
Your opening post seems more a complaint than a question. That is not useful. It would have made more sense to post what you have posted now: More information on what you have done so far, as well as ending the post with a question.
When you left the phone in the evening, how many bars were left (I mean the green coloured bars when you are in the energy settings). I have noticed that when there are only 2 bars left, the battery is already almost entirely flat.

How much battery life did it have before you left it on your desk?
I normally have to charge every day, as the battery life falls to approx. 60% after my moderate usage.
but i expect it should last about 1.5 - 2 days if i dont charge it.
ensure you have all the power management settings are enabled in 'advanced config tool' by schaps.
and ensure that you are manually configured to connect onto 2g.

How much battery life did it have before you left it on your desk?
I normally have to charge every day, as the battery life falls to approx. 60% after my moderate usage.
but i expect it should last about 1.5 - 2 days if i dont charge it.
ensure you have all the power management settings are enabled in 'advanced config tool' by schaps.
and ensure that you are manually configured to connect onto 2g.

Ok, you're right. I should have posted a question. Sorry for that!
The battery was fully charged. I just took it off the USB cord before going to bed.
3G is completely disabled on my phone.
Perhaps I should leave the device as I did yesterday evening and then watch whats happening. Perhaps an application pops up and drains the battery.
schaps: should one really enable all power management features?! e.g. "sd memory...", "async1..." and so on? They're all disabled on mine. Didn't read something about these options here yet.
Your answers are affirming what I thougt - it's not normal (even for the diamond) that the battery doesn't last a single night.

Hi
i am installed Beepes ROM
3G enabled - Batterie 100% after Night 86%
very nice

Yes 14% for one night would be nice. I have to wait for german roms to appear though...

I have read about some devices popping on when it is exactly 00:00. Not every night, but they've noticed once or so. No clue why it does this... maybe your phone did the same, and didn't go back to standby anymore.
Fully charged it should last 2 days using it for a few calls, sms and email functionality.

Damn... now I know how you feel. At this moment i have over slept almost 2 hours... The phone was 90% full when I went to bed, and empty this morning. No alarm for that matter...
This seems like some sort of bug indeed! Did anyone else have the same problem, and did you find a solution?

Is this maybe due to the google maps-bug? I've read that it doesn't close the gps port properly after use, and therefore the batt-troubles. To tired to find a link.. :/

I've never used Google Maps.
But I had TouchFlo activated. Since I disabled it i didn't have battery problems...

murks_muell said:
I've never used Google Maps.
But I had TouchFlo activated. Since I disabled it i didn't have battery problems...
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I didn't use the Google Maps either since the last hard reset. As the device wasn't hot all day long, I doubt if it was the GPS being on without me knowing.
However, I do expect it has something to do with one of the communication chips inside (GPS, WiFi, GSM, BT). Yesterday was the first night I have slept with the telephone NOT being in the flight mode. Normally I always use the flight mode so I can sleep without being disturbed. So possibly some 'bug' turns on one of the most draining comm chips for no reason at all.
Ofcourse I could disable the TFL3D, but then I will not know wheter it was really the solution. It might just as well be a one time thing...
@Murks-Muell...
Could this be punishment for me for the first few posts in this thread? Quite a coincidence!

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Damn... now I know how you feel. At this moment i have over slept almost 2 hours... The phone was 90% full when I went to bed, and empty this morning. No alarm for that matter...
This seems like some sort of bug indeed! Did anyone else have the same problem, and did you find a solution?
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you disabled gprs auto attach?
this feature sucks a lot of battery.
i have tuned my diamond (stock german rom 1.37.407.2) that it needs less 10% over the night (note im only on gsm).

Hornet331 said:
you disabled gprs auto attach?
this feature sucks a lot of battery.
i have tuned my diamond (stock german rom 1.37.407.2) that it needs less 10% over the night (note im only on gsm).
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Yep, GPRS auto attach is disabled. Even so, even if it was on, it should not be able to drain the battery that much in one night, especially when nog program is running! I also use the GSM band (not 3G). Any other night my phone uses virtually no energy.

Battery going flat overnight happened to me on ONE occasion.
After recharging and switching on I noticed that the screen never went off, and it seemed that the device had somehow unticked the 'turn off if device is unused for xx seconds' setting.
I figured my device had woken up for some reason (maybe an all day appointment with a reminder that triggered at midnight), then just sat there draining with the screen on.
Ticked the setting, no other changes and I easily get 2 or 3 days normal usage again...

I have had this issue the first night and this morning nearly again. When I wake up and I started Opera to visit a news site and I have read some articles the phone stopped. There was no low battery signal.

How to drastically improve battery life

This took some hunting down so have documented here in case others are not already aware. The Diamond defaults to leaving 3G/GPRS data connections turned on all the time, once it has connected for the first time since turning the phone on. My battery life was terrible until I changed this to disconnect after 60 seconds - the battery life is now great.
GPRS/3G Auto-Disconnect
Just change 2 registry entries in the following part of the registry (download Resco Explorer if you need a registry editor):
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\
1) Change the DWORD "CacheTime" to the number of seconds the connection should remain active (I use 60 seconds)
2) Change the String "SuspendResume" from "~GPRS" to "GPRS_bye_if_device_off" (without the quotes).
That's it. This solved all of my battery life issues.

I'll give it a try...thanks for the heads-up

or use diamond tweaks app

Not much good if you use push email though...

unwired4 said:
Not much good if you use push email though...
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how to resolve the battery issue with diamond tweaks?

Useless...
mrac41 said:
This took some hunting down so have documented here in case others are not already aware. The Diamond defaults to leaving 3G/GPRS data connections turned on all the time, once it has connected for the first time since turning the phone on. My battery life was terrible until I changed this to disconnect after 60 seconds - the battery life is now great.
GPRS/3G Auto-Disconnect
Just change 2 registry entries in the following part of the registry (download Resco Explorer if you need a registry editor):
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\
1) Change the DWORD "CacheTime" to the number of seconds the connection should remain active (I use 60 seconds)
2) Change the String "SuspendResume" from "~GPRS" to "GPRS_bye_if_device_off" (without the quotes).
That's it. This solved all of my battery life issues.
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Such a useless suggestion...the GPRS connection doesn't have almost any impact on the battery life if the connection is open or not.
Only if data is trasferring it makes a substantial difference, so if you are working with push mail, whatever parameters you change it is useless. Otherwise, if you browse the web like crazy, again - useless.
The battery cunsumption of this device is ****, period. they probably weren't able to stabilize the chipsed properly, since it gets hot every time you activate the display, like gaming or other features unrelated necessarilly with the Radio.

If you are using Push mail, it indeed is a useless suggestion. However, if I'm checking my train schedule in the morning, and don't do anything else except possibly cal with it, is IS a useful suggestion. Not having the connection established IS more battery efficient than not having it on. It's like making an argument that turning the phone or wifi off would NOT save battery life. Yeah, right. By the way, my device does not get hot at all, except when charging.

mmmmh on my O2 Germany branded phone this setting was already set to 60. What is the default Setting on unbranded phones? I want the GPRS Connection to stay on, as my provider charges the traffic in 10kByte steps.

Disconnecting your dataconnection does indeed dramatically improve battery life.
drvdijk said:
By the way, my device does not get hot at all, except when charging.
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You probably don't use GPS. After 10/20 minutes of GPS with these temperatures outside it does get hot.
jobear said:
mmmmh on my O2 Germany branded phone this setting was already set to 60. What is the default Setting on unbranded phones? I want the GPRS Connection to stay on, as my provider charges the traffic in 10kByte steps.
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HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\
CacheTime = "0"
SuspendResume = "~GPRS"

They talk about GPRS not GPS if I am wrong.
GPRS does not effect much of the battery.
GPS affects alot of the battery when used.
Grtzzz

I don't see how having GPRS or push email connected all the time and not effecting the battery life. Once you have the connection open the phone/server is constantly sending/receiving packets of data back and forth(syncing) , although minimal if no email is going or coming. Yes it effects battery life big time because its using radio and cpu power. On the other hand GPS i agree it kills the battery life. period.

Thats what I mean normaly the GPRS is sleeping until you decide to go on the internet or look after the weather.
I agree when you use pushmail or other aplications which force the GPRS continuasly to activate its going to cost a lot of battery power.
But when you use it normal to look after the weather sometimes or internet sometimes you can leave it on. It will not drain your battery for life.
Grtzzz

Have to agree with daraj.
The Diamond battery gives me about 2 days of usage between recharges (I don't talk much).
If the GPRS is on (even if I'm doing nothing with the internet connection), on the other hand, the battery last barely 0.5 days.

Have to agree with daraj.
The Diamond battery gives me about 2 days of usage between recharges (I don't talk much).
If the GPRS is on, on the other hand (even if I'm doing nothing with the internet connection), the battery last barely 0.5 days.

I have GPRS on all day long, talk in the phone a couple of times a day, listen to FM radio for maybe 20mins/day and use push mail where i get maybe 20-40mail a day.
I have 1½-2 day on a fully charged battery with my Diamond. I dont find that too bad - actually a lot like my old HTC Trinity.

Battery life too bad
I had Diamond for a week. Battery life is just crap to a stage I am afraid to use it. Initially I thought that I was playing around with it thats why the battery is draining. But today I was doing a 13 hour shift I hardly used the phone except making 3 calls lasting couple of minutes each. Battery was full in the morning - charged at night. By the end of the shift the battery was down to 10-20 percent!! I was so shocked to see this. Without even using the phone, the battery just drains, I dont know why. So, disappointed with it now

kimusan said:
I have GPRS on all day long, talk in the phone a couple of times a day, listen to FM radio for maybe 20mins/day and use push mail where i get maybe 20-40mail a day.
I have 1½-2 day on a fully charged battery with my Diamond. I dont find that too bad - actually a lot like my old HTC Trinity.
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eh? You serious?

God dam it this is the worst phone ive had, even my old n95 lasted longer than this.
All ive done today was a little Wlm, sent 11 txt called about 4 times only afew mins. Mind you i did test out the gps with tomtom but that was a 5 min drive down the road. Ive had to charge it 3 dam times today.
I cant wait for my genuine extend battery to turn up.

jobear said:
mmmmh on my O2 Germany branded phone this setting was already set to 60. What is the default Setting on unbranded phones? I want the GPRS Connection to stay on, as my provider charges the traffic in 10kByte steps.
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CacheTime = "600"
SuspendResume = "~GPRS"

I've had the phone for over a week now and to call the battery life good would be an overstatement. It is however adequate. I talk on average 1-2 hours (3G only), use poll mail (30 minute check intervals), use the browser and GPS for perhaps an average 20-30 minutes per day. At the end of the day I usually have 50-60% of the battery left. When left in standby with just the email checking, it consumes little.
Only once did I get excessive battery usage and it's an incident I can't explain. I left it overnight in standby with no programs running and the battery level dropped from full charge to 50% in the morning. It hasn't happened since.
In fact, while the battery life certainly has been inferior to my previous phone (Nokia 6210) it's much better than on my last WM phone (Mio A701). After having read reviews and user opinions I expected it to be worse. It's not good, but it is hardly disastrous.