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Is it worth it???

I just got the AT&T Tilt last Friday and have found myself pondering if it was worth the $300.00? I am thinking about taking it back because it seems to buggy. The phone its self is good looking but WM6 is just ugly compared to the iPhone interface. Anyways what do you think?

If aesthetics are you main concern, sure go with an iPhone. I like functionality over appearance, so I love my tilt!

yes it worth it, there is soooooo many apps that u can add, you can even upgrade from that cingular rom, i havent seen anyone with my tilt yet

Now come on... this is getting beyond a joke....You have an At&T Tilt, not a 'HTC TyTnII'
Please disclose your business affiliations as I am POSITIVE you are associated with apple as this is getting really stupid!
Who buys a very expensive phone without research then suddenly comes on this forum and denouces it within a few weeks without really trying it??
I am amazed!!!
OH, BTW I am not associated with HTC in any way and I find it a 100% piece of kit for what I wanted.

Amazing how many times you see "is it worth it to me" on forums. Who else but you could possibly answer if it's worth it to you???

hahahaha good point, Farsquidge......iphone=downgrade

First off I do not work for AT&T!!! I am a high school student that spent alot of time doing research on this phone! I love my "'HTC TyTnII" or whatever you want to call it! I only called it the Tilt for the simple fact that its branded name is the AT&T Tilt. This has to be the most unfriendly forum I have ever been on!

Dude you need to chill out. Swearing will get you banned. Everyone has their opinions about the iPhone and the Tilt. If you don't like someone else's opinions, just ignore them.
Personally I love the Tilt. The iPhone just doesn't do enough for me. Yes, it has a very nice interface but in the end, function wins over form.
If you want a pretty phone, go with the iPhone. If you want one that you can easily hack and tweak and load tons of 3rd party apps on, get the Tilt, but it is your choice to make, not ours to make for you.
In the end, you have to live with your choice.
P.S. I absolutely love my Tilt. It runs rings around the iPhone and I don't have to worry about Steve Jobs making my life difficult by not letting me do what I want with it.

Thank you. I think I will stay with my Tilt.

dawa259 said:
Thank you. I think I will stay with my Tilt.
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Please don't give up.. I know some of us (me for one!) can be a little short tempered with what is around on this forum at the moment (flaming the device!) but all of us on here would like to try to help you futher your unit!
I am sorry if I seemed to shoot you down at the start...
Let's move on from that...
You say you have a 'Tilt', first thing we can recommend is re-flashing your ROM to a HTC TyTnII as the AT&T is a very basic firmware but when you do this you will lose your AT&T settings ( that is your 3G HSDPA connection). Then you will need the latest Network settings cab.. Then lets move on from that!!! OK?

There are so many different roms witch is the one I need to use?

True, there are many. I like the att rom. it's not that bad. i just removed all of the bloatware on it by doing a soft reset after the hard reset and that freeed like 20 mb or so. btw, if you want to run different roms on the tilt, you must cid unlcok your tilt.

We need a few bits of info to start you off.
First, tell us the device (I know it may seem strange but we need to know who you bought it from ie At&T or whatever as this forum is worldwide!!)
Then when you first turn on the phone (turn it off by holding the power button!) try to get the OS and Radio versions it has. You may need to do this a couple of times as it disappears quickly.
If I am not online you will find loads of guys willing to help....
You have come into a great community that will work with you so long as we get the correct info...

I bought it from an AT&T store. The numbers are R1.27.12.11 G22.445.88.07h D1.57.00.00.

I need the same help here, thanks in advance
I will follow this thread since I have the same phone, same radio and OS, I'm very interested in getting a better ROM to see what are the PROS.

OK guys, have a good read at the WiKi...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
Especially at the 'How to flash a new ROM' section. It will give you a good aspect of what you will be doing..

I should have my tilt in a few days ( Amazon is the worst!). So I have been going around trying to gather as much information as possible on how customize my phone....Farsquidge, if I change my tilt interface to the TyTn11 interface I will lose my 3g? Also what is the benefit of changing? Also, I met alot of people who told me of good apps for my phone but is there a site where I can go where there is alot of apps with discriptions of what they do?

Thatplayboy said:
I should have my tilt in a few days ( Amazon is the worst!). So I have been going around trying to gather as much information as possible on how customize my phone....Farsquidge, if I change my tilt interface to the TyTn11 interface I will lose my 3g? Also what is the benefit of changing? Also, I met alot of people who told me of good apps for my phone but is there a site where I can go where there is alot of apps with discriptions of what they do?
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If you re-flash your 'Tilt' (as it is an AT&T carrier device) you will lose your AT&T connection settings.
You will end up with a 'Carrier free' device with (or) without sim unlock depending on the way you do it. You will then have to re-install these with a 'Network profile app' from this forum. You will find plenty of apps (in the form of .cab files) on here to keep you happy for ages!
Be patient because there are tons of guys on this forum who have reflashed their devices that will add their input to help you. No one is online all the time but will get to you when they can.

Thanks. The more I look on different forums, the more confused I get. I'm not to phone/computer savy so I have to do some research on the simple words and terms used up here. Thanks alot.

It takes a long time to get up to speed, I'm not close yet. Personally, I don't have a problem with the ATT rom, I guess b/c I haven't seen a flashed one to compare it to. I've added a bunch of fun/useful programs from this site, FFF and IMSMS are great ones and all the home customizations are very cool. The other day, I was beaming IMSMS to a friend. A stranger passing says "oh are we showing off our phones?" and yanks out his iphone hoping we'd be impressed. I said, "nope just beaming a file, do you want it too? Oops, guess you can't do that" You could see him deflate immediately. The iphone is neat to look at, but is so lacking in features and customization it's sad.

This HTC graphics problem got me thinking

Hi all, i'm a noob here and would firstly like to say hi to everyone and well done to all concerned for the content and information found here... I have had my phone for less than a week and already it has been flashed with a new ROM
I have read with interest numerous threads and petitions about the HTC graphics problems. I read something earlier where someone said they had contacted HTC about this issue and pointed HTC to this forum (as I am sure alot of people have done). My question is as follows.....If HTC decide to come on here and look at the site to gather information/have a look at what people are saying about the graphics issue...what do you think they make of all the threads containing their software that is freely available for download?
I would be concerned that they may a little upset and try to force the software to be taken off??? Maybe I am missing something and the software is freeware but I doubt it very much.
I suppose my question could extend to things like ROMS etc with other mnfrs software on it also.
Anyway apologies if this is a somewhat random post but I was just wondering...and before anyone asks...NO I AM NOT AN HTC EMPLOYEE Or do I wish to cause any friction.
Chris

Welcome, HTC.

Yes welcome HTC! If you would make your Products perform properly right out of the box I wouldnt have to spend hour on hour cooking new ROM's or extracting apps from one device to port to another. Maybe one day you will wake up and see that you could be the best PDA provider out there if it not for one small issue! You leave us hanging on important things and leave it up to us to fix your mistakes so please HTC get your sh*t together and blow my mind with the next device!

PMSL...You guys really think I from HTC???? I can see this turning into a major flaming for me If that's what everyone now thinks.
I can assure you that I am not, but I guess that is going to be difficult to prove once everyone thinks I am.
I wonder if a job at HTC would be better than my current employment

c.b said:
PMSL...You guys really think I from HTC???? I can see this turning into a major flaming for me If that's what everyone now thinks.
I can assure you that I am not, but I guess that is going to be difficult to prove once everyone thinks I am.
I wonder if a job at HTC would be better than my current employment
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They don't think you're from HTC. They said they'd welcome HTC to come in and see everything you're talking about and seeing that they're phones would sell alot better if they implemented alot of the stuff we're doing ourselves afterwards.

they allready visit the forum and they are aware of what we do and use...
anyway..where do you think they get bug fixes from!

donatom3 said:
They don't think you're from HTC. They said they'd welcome HTC to come in and see everything you're talking about and seeing that they're phones would sell alot better if they implemented alot of the stuff we're doing ourselves afterwards.
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DOH!!! I read it wrong when the first reply said Welcome, HTC..thank god for that..I thought I was going to be in for thousands of messages asking me about graphics drivers

faria said:
they allready visit the forum and they are aware of what we do and use...
anyway..where do you think they get bug fixes from!
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My sentiments exactly.. And I'm sure their not the only 1's!!!

faria said:
they allready visit the forum and they are aware of what we do and use...
anyway..where do you think they get bug fixes from!
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LOL.. I do get the impression that there are some talented people here.

faria said:
they allready visit the forum and they are aware of what we do and use...
anyway..where do you think they get bug fixes from!
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It's not only bug fixes from guys like you faria but the forum also provides a completely cost free customer survey/opinion base of product performance, enhancements and application inclusions.
Up until now though, I don't think they have had enough incentive to fix past issues because they thought the complaints were not serious enough to effect future sales.
They definately have reason to worry this time....

For me, if they ignore us and don't fix any of the issues our phones are plagued by, then im not even gonna sell this phone when it comes time. ill throw it away and buy a damn blackjack or eten

ericc191 said:
For me, if they ignore us and don't fix any of the issues our phones are plagued by, then im not even gonna sell this phone when it comes time. ill throw it away and buy a damn blackjack or eten
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IMO - Having switched from an Eten x500 to the TYTN II/Kaiser I personally would not recommend it over a Kaiser. My experiences of it in a year of use how been far exceeded by 1 week of use with my TYTN II.

ericc191 said:
For me, if they ignore us and don't fix any of the issues our phones are plagued by, then im not even gonna sell this phone when it comes time. ill throw it away and buy a damn blackjack or eten
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Exactly.. They better give me a 100% working kaiser (fast camera, video drivers etc..) or this will be my last PDA from them

Eraser85 said:
Exactly.. They better give me a 100% working kaiser (fast camera, video drivers etc..) or this will be my last PDA from them
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Yeah, all I meant was that I'd move to a different brand. I just threw Eten out there cause it was the first thing that popped into my head.

yea eric, im pretty sure i'd do the same. im hoping for a hit on the next one

to buy or not to buy? after all the threads of complaints

I have just bricked my hermes 30 mins ago tsk the day i finally fixed it (upper right hand screen tap) (bought it cheap black market brand new failed to check forum first). After it was stable for hours, while connected i upgrade to radio 1.43 and after it installed, it was still plugged and poof. screen faded and no more. not even a red light. (is there a solution?) totally ddead.
anyway I was thinking of buying a tytn II for replacement. should i buy? after all the raves and complaints im not so sure. im buying this because of u guys even if im new. i saw how u guys fixed up the hermes and i loved it even when it was bugging.
Usage summary :
I will abuse it. use it and charge it if battery dies while using it.
I will play games and test its capabilities to all its extent.
Application crazy and of course calls.
I have read of the rlod, battery life sucks, heats up too fast, unproper video drivers, software not working. So should i buy? thanks. im buying 2 coz im going to give it as a gift. but before i throw cash, please since u all have it and a lot of u guys are power users, should i buy it or go for a glofiish or hp ipaq 614 instead?
thanks.

Buying stuff from the black market, and the way you talk? Nope - you should get the IPAQ or the Glitter or something - you are WAY too cool for the Tilt.

It's all up to you...........
TyTN II / Tilt is up to you. From everything you have read in this forum, should be enough for you to make that decision. I can't tell you what you like and dislike. Anyway, Good luck......

I understand but it might be that nobody would post in the forum for raves of the tytn II and the most replied topics would be problem solving. Since a lot of you are actual users, i just want to know if you guys are happy with yours and if you could use it continuously for a long time.
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TyTN II / Tilt is up to you. From everything you have read in this forum, should be enough for you to make that decision. I can't tell you what you like and dislike. Anyway, Good luck......
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Dont mean no disrespect. im new to this but i will abuse the phone. im just wondering if it could take the same abuse as the hermes did or will this phone heat up too much.
tsk didnt mean to sound fresh but it's mother's day and i would give one to my mom.
whk said:
Buying stuff from the black market, and the way you talk? Nope - you should get the IPAQ or the Glitter or something - you are WAY too cool for the Tilt.
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So guys, any raves about the tytn II? is it stable enough to use 3-4 hours straight? maybe reading an ebook or playing a game?

It's stable enough for me to last a whole week without restarting. The only reason I restart weekly is because I perform regular backups.

sphynx88 said:
Dont mean no disrespect. im new to this but i will abuse the phone. im just wondering if it could take the same abuse as the hermes did or will this phone heat up too much.
tsk didnt mean to sound fresh but it's mother's day and i would give one to my mom.
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I love you Mom, here's a black market TIlt !

it's a great phone. problem is it has lots of bugs as well. if you can wait for the sony X1.

i should change this title to raves on the tytn II
haha im actually asking for reviews not the decision. because as much bad as it has i bet it has a lot of good. as long as all the major functionality is there id give it as a gift if not nokia n95 for her tytn for me coz i dont mind customizing and doing the work it's just going to be hell if she calls me just to ask phone problems.
yes this freaking phone is a pua tool. cant wait for that reason it's an auto attention getter which makes her invest more time on u and therefore.... (move to next location or simply entertain). in any case chill back guys, hold drinks down not by the chest.

hahaha this is hilarious thanks for making me laugh. yup my thoughts exactly. it's the thought that counts!
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I love you Mom, here's a black market TIlt !
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thanks for this see. first useful reply.
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It's stable enough for me to last a whole week without restarting. The only reason I restart weekly is because I perform regular backups.
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thanks will actually look at it. i havent seen it so i might wait for that instead. let me check out the specs first. right now im back to my trusty n80 hehe
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it's a great phone. problem is it has lots of bugs as well. if you can wait for the sony X1.
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thanks i checked the specs but i think that's just like buying an hermes all over again except for the 500 mhz. but sony makes pretty stable phones. but i think it's still time to wait for the ultimate phone right now maybe im up for a second hand hermes and save the money.
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thanks will actually look at it. i havent seen it so i might wait for that instead. let me check out the specs first. right now im back to my trusty n80 hehe
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Poor performance

I am really struggling with this phone!
Yes it looks great.. and the 3d touch flo looks great.
But the blo*dy thing is crap at doing what it is designed for... being a phone.
When trying to get it going after it has been sleeping it can take an age... totally unresponsive...
I need a phone to work properly and not just sit there and look shiny!
I have added the enhancements and am using the Elite 2.0 rom..
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the problem with TF3D disable it
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upgrade to latest rom

Blimey last poster you really don't read things before you post your sharp responses do you?! That's at least two from you today. Seems to be quite the habit on this forum which is depressing for a new person on the block (like me).
At original poster, if what I think you mean is you want to use it to call straight away after waking it up - I share your frustration. It does seem to take a while before I can get it to call out after sleeping and I've used HTC, Elite and TLR roms and it's all the same for me.
What network are you on maybe that has something to do with it - I'm T-Mob.

another useless, whiner thread...
what's the question? now we know that u r not satisfied with the diamond. now what? what's the drama? send it back for a refund.
this is not a wall to graffiti slogans and complains.
Blimey last poster you really don't read things before you post your sharp responses do you?! That's at least two from you today. Seems to be quite the habit on this forum which is depressing for a new person on the block (like me).
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the answer fits the post like a glove....post something like the above and you'll get an answer like the above. i wonder why bother to answer? to what?

KukurikU said:
another useless, whiner thread...
what's the question? now we know that u r not satisfied with the diamond. now what? what's the drama? send it back for a refund.
this is not a wall to graffiti slogans and complains.
the answer fits the post like a glove....post something like the above and you'll get an answer like the above. i wonder why bother to answer? to what?
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What you see as useless other see as interesting and usefull.
I am thinking of buying this phone as i'm fed up with waiting for the i900 Omnia and this thread has been usefull. Now, thanks to reading this thread I am warned about slow "wake-up" of the Diamond and now more hesitant, almost to the point of not buying it.
Sadly though, you seem to judge everyone else by your own standards.
Ericsson68 was indeed trying to be helpfull by two things:
1; confirming that he too has a slow "wake-up" e.g its not he op's phone itself
2; Offering a possible explanation "What network are you on maybe that has something to do with it - I'm T-Mob. "
No one is forcing you to read these posts and no one is forcing you to write a pointless reply. It is often said by wise people (and those with friends!), if you have nothing constructive so say, don't say it.
So Erricsson and TrevorM, thanks guys! You've highlighted to me that this phone may have an issue, even with the latest roms applied, in that its slow to wake up. This is EXACTLY the reason i'm here along with many others!

KukurikU said:
another useless, whiner thread...
what's the question? now we know that u r not satisfied with the diamond. now what? what's the drama? send it back for a refund.
this is not a wall to graffiti slogans and complains.
the answer fits the post like a glove....post something like the above and you'll get an answer like the above. i wonder why bother to answer? to what?
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Dude listen the way i see it is that if you havent got anything useful to say or post then refrain from doing so. People are going to complain no matter what you or anyone else says. Like Monty says people have different ideas as to what is good for them and what isnt...fact of the matter is everytime i see you post...your always having a pop at someone who asks a question or slates the phone. Do you actually own HTC??...because sometimes your posts come across as a HTC fanboy...so what if people are saying the phone is useless/rubbish.
I'll say this about the Diamond, i love it but its hard work getting everything to run as you want it to. Personally HTC have alot to answer for, their QC testing is quite frankly crap and rubbish. They were in such a hurry to get this phone out...it seems like their engineers/designers fell asleep for a few months. The stock rom has too many niggles and problems with it, thankfully we have a place like this where we have some excellent guys who are making the Diamond a more enjoyable product due to their new roms. I swear if places like this didnt exist...HTC wouldnt be in business for much longer.
With regards to the OP, as i said before the phone is hard work...sometimes i struggle to do anything with it but i still love it. Perhaps try the TLR rom...its much faster and seems more smoother. AS for the sleeping issue??...it does take a few secs to get it back up and running but i can live with that...its not like it takes forever...well mine doesnt feel like that.

Monty Burns said:
What you see as useless other see as interesting and usefull.
I am thinking of buying this phone as i'm fed up with waiting for the i900 Omnia and this thread has been usefull. Now, thanks to reading this thread I am warned about slow "wake-up" of the Diamond and now more hesitant, almost to the point of not buying it.
Sadly though, you seem to judge everyone else by your own standards.
Ericsson68 was indeed trying to be helpfull by two things:
1; confirming that he too has a slow "wake-up" e.g its not he op's phone itself
2; Offering a possible explanation "What network are you on maybe that has something to do with it - I'm T-Mob. "
No one is forcing you to read these posts and no one is forcing you to write a pointless reply. It is often said by wise people (and those with friends!), if you have nothing constructive so say, don't say it.
So Erricsson and TrevorM, thanks guys! You've highlighted to me that this phone may have an issue, even with the latest roms applied, in that its slow to wake up. This is EXACTLY the reason i'm here along with many others!
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i gave you a hint. you didn't get it. keep on spamming.

Since when is the forum becoming a customer review of phones ?
I see already a thousand threads about the things that the Diamond does not fulfill. If you start reading them it is amazing what people whine about! "My phone does not react instantly after waking up", "My phone does not go to vibrate when I flip ip when it rings", "my phone is not the chickmagnet HTC promised it to be, I stil do not have a girlfriend" ...
So you use the title "poor performance" and then that is your strongest statement to back this up ??? nice one mate!
@Monty
Buy the phone, play with it, use it and then decide! What other people think might not always apply to you. I do not even have much issues with the battery.
If your want your phone to fly you to the bahamas then I suggest you buy yourself a plane.
This is at this moment the best phone you can buy! no doubt about it, I had the iphone for a week and then got this one. Now I only use the iphone for cutting bread on!

MisterSosa said:
This is at this moment the best phone you can buy! no doubt about it, I had the iphone for a week and then got this one. Now I only use the iphone for cutting bread on!
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OMFG iphone can cut bread!!111

Kukuirukuwuay: 1 post is hardly spamming and tbh, if thats the best most informed response you can come up ... you should maybe try the American "whatever", at least that has comedy value.
MisterSosa, it does have reviews of it and so what? Peoples(Owners reviews) and more importantly, there day-to-day comments and experiences are vital. Its these bug reports/issues/compliments/"wow look at this feature" posts that help some people decide and whats wrong with that? Like it or not HTC does not make perfect gear, if it did, there would be no need for this site. The bugs people discuss on here are read by the people who create ROM's and sometimes fixed by them. TBH, I wouldn't be suprised if there are HTC developers on this site everyday. I certainly know that Toshiba devs monitor myg900.com
I do agree with you 100% that people see phones diferently and whilst it works for one, it won't work for another. That said, to be "the best phone you can buy!" would take some doo'ing! My experience with HTC hardware (not software) is that this is unlikely to be the case purely on reliability, 10 months down the road it will probably develope hardware failures just like my previous 3 HTC phones (and that doesn't include the factory replacements). Also, "best" depends entirley on your needs. I'm still tempted to wait for the Omni as it will have a 5mp camera built in to it, something that doesn't seem to of sunk into HTC yet! Not to say I won't buy this, I like the form factor and the screen res (im used to 800x480 so this would only be a small downgrade).
However, I now consign myself to the fact that HTC phones only last at most a year and IF I buy this, it will be with that in mind.
This site in particular and similar sites do indeed help people choose there next phone - assuming they are informed enough to look for sites like this and even the OP's post is usefull. Read into it his frustration: Can you not see that his post is actually a complement? It says to me that the OP thinks its an awesome phone .... except this one really minor but pain in the arse thing, the wake-up delay.
Yes your right, i could buy it and then send it back if I don't like it (assuming the shop are going to allow me, they don't have to) but how many times am I going to do that before I get told to get stuffed by the shop(s)? Also, I may also not discover everything I need to about the phone in the two weeks, usualy accepted by shops here in the uk, that I need to and then i maybe stuffed with a phone I don't want.

This site in particular and similar sites do indeed help people choose there next phone
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wrong! this is a developer site like in:http://forum.xda-developers.com
maybe at "similar" sites you''lfind the help u need

KukurikU said:
wrong! this is a developer site like in:http://forum.xda-developers.com
maybe at "similar" sites you''lfind the help u need
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Completely and utterly wrong...this is a forum, it may very well be a developer forum but as of yet i havent heard any of the moderators in here say that we cannot give any opinions/views on what we think of the phone.

Crikey!!!
Didn't expect this kind of response.
Maybe it is useful for the DEVELOPERS to know how things are working (good or not)??
I have had any number of phones over the years - WinMo HTC, non HTC, Symbian etc. and this is the first one that I am really struggling with.
It is correct to say that it is hard work to get the equipment operating smoothly. The problem I have with that is, even after applying improved ROMS, performance enhancements, registry tweeks etc. the basic function is simply not working correctly. Why does it take so long for the phone to become ready for use?
Maybe a vanilla ROM will improve things, but then again I am left with a shiny shell which is a good phone (I may as well buy a cheap nokia!!).
I would be interested to know if other Diamond users are experiencing terrible lag, long delays and unresponsiveness..
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mobile not used for 3 hours, was lying on my desk.
press power button slide from all programs to home tab, press the phone button ... pops up immediately, dial colleague number and its dialing.
Where is the lag/delay in this story ?
ever try to close the running applications since the first time you turned it on ?

Thanks ... what ROM are you using - which enhancements have you applied?
Cheers

@MisterSosa and KukurikU
You might not be experiencing it... some are.
If you haven't got any constructive help to add why not go and join another thread? You're not being forced to read our comments but we are unfairly being forced to read yours in a thread that we want to add our experiences to in a calm and collected way.
Now kindly leave the thread so that we can DEVELOP a solution to what some of us see as a problem.

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mobile not used for 3 hours, was lying on my desk.
press power button slide from all programs to home tab, press the phone button ... pops up immediately, dial colleague number and its dialing.
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Same here

Monty Burns said:
My experience with HTC hardware (not software) is that this is unlikely to be the case purely on reliability, 10 months down the road it will probably develope hardware failures just like my previous 3 HTC phones (and that doesn't include the factory replacements).
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Sorry to hear that Monty, as you can see by my signature I have owned all manor of HTC phones and i havent had to send most of them back (admittidley the C500 had to have the rocker stick repaired on mine and my girlfriends phone but I dealt with HTC direct as orange didnt want to know and HTC were very helpful and within 5 days I had the phone back)
I don't suffer from the lag that a few people in this thread are mentioning.
Ive got a WWE Touch Diamond with Rom Version 1.37.405.1 WWE, ROM Date: 06/10/08 Radio Version 1.00.25.03 and im on tmobile UK. My TouchFLO 3D version is 1.0.1630.23.
Ive NOT applied ANY tweaks to my phone at all, no registry edits, hacks or Rom updates and my phone works without lag when trying to make a phone call.
How long does your take, in secs, from when you have pressed the power button at the top to wake the phone up to when you press the Phone button (the left phone softkey?)
Where do you experience the problem? Do you find its when you use TouchFLO 3D? Or can you goto ALL PEOPLE from the PEOPLE TAB on TouchFLO 3D and its still laggy?
Sorry to hear your having problems guys but this forum is here to help you.

Thanks .. I see you are using an uncooked rom. Have you applied any of the registry tweeks etc.?
Cheers

pedmond said:
Same here
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Same here.
Only time I've see a delay in opening the phone app so far (3 weeks) was when I received a phone call AND a txt msg almost simultaneously...just as I was trying to copy/paste some info from Opera into a reply to a previous txt msg.
DT

Chinese iphone clone

Hi!
I just got a phone bought in Dubai, that appears to be a iphone clone. The problem however is that i can't figure out which one this is. I've tride to open the phone, read trough the manual, tried MyPhoneExplorer in help of identifing it, with no luck.
Does anyone have any idea about some tools, something to figure this out? I can't even figure out which OS its running.
Yeah, im a newbie.
Thanks in advance.

Welcome to forums
This is an HTC devices only forum, hope someone can point you to the right place but do not expect too much as apart from not being HTC also is a copy
Good luck,

Thanks for your reply
True, i also have a touch diamond, thats why i love this place =)
just threw in a longshot in hope of someone having the knowledge of some tools or any advice at all regarding this strange device.

well what comes up when you plug the phone into your computer? (i'm assuming you have an appropriate cable).

I have several choices i.e mass storage etc, but the COM connection displays as a "MTK6255" which my OS (win7) dont recognize.

MTK6255 is the platform on your phone.
Try using the MTK driver from here:
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=540559

might be a meizu m8...i have one

Don't think so. The M8 runs on Windows CE platform as described here:
http://www.techtickerblog.com/2009/02/09/meizu-m8-review/

i think i just found your phone here:
http://www.downtownkey.com/hiphone-3g-music-cell-phone-support-mp3mp4-bluetooth_p7403.html
Note the CPU.

SciPhone?
It might be a SciPhone.
This guy put together a review of a lot of the iPhone clones: http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/Sciphone-i68.html.
There is a forum for SciPhones, http://www.mysciphone.com/English_Sciphone_Forum/index.php. I'd check that out too.
The MTK processors are really, really, really slow and do not run Windows Mobile.
I have a CiPhone C5, which runs on a 450MhZ Samsung Processor with Windows Mobile 6.1 OS. Much better than any of the phones you'll find at mysciphone.com. xda-developers.com has been amazing for learning how to use and modify my phone.

Welcome to the forum
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Please guys!
Do not buy copies, they are cheap, bad quality and not long lasting
Buy the original stuff!

Thanks so much for replys guys, really appreciate it.
For the Sciphone i68-3G, its identical in looks, but i dont have any 3,5mm Jack
Whereas to the hiphone, I found this:
"How to find HiPhone firmware version
Call #*44673#1# and press "version info". You should now see the firmware version of your HiPhone."
Which dont work for me...
thesecondsfade: Is the MTK processor really that sucky? I really dont think i will be using this phone anyways, but I really just want to explore and learn as much as i can. But if it is that crap, i guess i cant do anything
I may have forgotten to mention that i found somewhere in the manual where it stated "mini iphoen" "mini iphone". -But aint so mini imo..

orb3000 said:
Welcome to the forum
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Thanks . It's been so helpful for me so far.
orb3000 said:
Please guys!
Do not buy copies, they are cheap, bad quality and not long lasting
Buy the original stuff!
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I know it's probably not as high quality as some of the other retail phones available on long data/phone contracts with the US cell phone companies, but I just can't afford that. I really wanted a new Windows Mobile phone without having to sign up for an expensive plan to get it... so I bought the CiPhone C5. I did a lot of research before buying it.

tiddylicious said:
Thanks so much for replys guys, really appreciate it.
For the Sciphone i68-3G, its identical in looks, but i dont have any 3,5mm Jack
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It's probably the i68+, not the i68+3G. The 3G model has the 3.5mm jack, the i68+ doesn't.
tiddylicious said:
Whereas to the hiphone, I found this:
"How to find HiPhone firmware version
Call #*44673#1# and press "version info". You should now see the firmware version of your HiPhone."
Which dont work for me...
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Try putting *#8375# into the dialer.
tiddylicious said:
thesecondsfade: Is the MTK processor really that sucky? I really dont think i will be using this phone anyways, but I really just want to explore and learn as much as i can.
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I had one for about a month and it was too slow for my tastes. The firmware was flawed as well. There is a website you can upgrade your firmware, but that'll cost you another $40 bucks or so... probably not worth it but you can decide that for yourself.
tiddylicious said:
But if it is that crap, i guess i cant do anything
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You can sell it on eBay
tiddylicious said:
I may have forgotten to mention that i found somewhere in the manual where it stated "mini iphoen" "mini iphone". -But aint so mini imo..
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The Chinese clones are known to be sketchy when it comes to their manuals... or even in their descriptions of what they're selling. Most sellers just try to say whatever they can to sell the phones without really knowing what exactly they're selling.

Try putting *#8375# into the dialer.
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Didnt work.
I guess ill sell this and buy the proper phone, HTC Hero

The only other dail code I know for the clones is *#433943#.

this works
*#11*# gives you the software version

that post... are you serious? Cause I would understand if it wasn't intentional... but...
that's just pure fail, in all it's beauty.
FAIL
FAAAAIL

Hi,
I bought a Chinese phone, a clone of the Blackberry HS 9500 I think (looks like the Blockberry 9500 clone) and it has the Engrish manual as you might expect.
Given that I set my aims before purchase (I wanted a cheap dual SIM and not much else besides a media player, basic camera, bluetooth … couldn't care less about the TV/FM and so on) and, it isn't bad but the media player is fairly rubbish inasmuch as I have no idea how to get it to play a track (pref. a series of tracks).
A colleague, though, intrigued me with talk of alternate OS's for phones and given that its OS is by far the worst part of the phone (not bad but not good either) I wondered if cheap phones of this kind can be given a new OS and, if so, how I go about it?
Thx for any advice
Keke

I bought mine from Bigboxstores and within a week it had a dead pixel on screen. I emailed them and said I was returning it for a refund. I packaged it exactly as it was received and it was in mint condition. A whole month went by and I kept emailing them and asking if they had it, eventually they said they did and were checking it. I eventually got an email saying 'sorry no refund, phone works fine, has a few marks on it, thank you'.
No offer to exchange it or anything. I have resigned myself to the fact I have lost my money. Such terrible customer service and using a pony excuse to avoid refunding me. It's not like I'm gonna travel to China to get my money back.
My advice is steer clear of copies and do NOT buy from Bigboxstores as if there is problem with your phone, you will NOT get your money back.
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