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Whot Maximum miniSD card cen u use in Treo 750 ?
i use 2GB card
will 4GB work ? (i think WM6 support miniSDHC aka 4GB+ )
I use a 4Gb Sandisk Micro SDHC (w/ adapter) on my Treo 750v running WM6 VFN ROM. It works perfectly.
But couldn't make it works under WM5 ROM.
HTH
Just purchased a 4G mini SDHC card to use in my 750 (after I install WM6 Rom). I can't get my XP computer to recognize that it is there. (Vista capable newer Gateway) The adapter will work OK with my 1GB card just fine. Do I need an upgrade for my desktop computer so it will recognize the HC part of the SD card before I can upgrade my mobile device or did I get a bad 4GB card ?? (I think it is a Panasonic).......
Any help would be greatly appreciated
If you understand portuguese, you can reade more info on my fórum in THIS LINK.
If you dont, can at least download the XP update HERE
On my note running WinXP works well
HTH
unkabuzz said:
Just purchased a 4G mini SDHC card to use in my 750 (after I install WM6 Rom). I can't get my XP computer to recognize that it is there. (Vista capable newer Gateway) The adapter will work OK with my 1GB card just fine. Do I need an upgrade for my desktop computer so it will recognize the HC part of the SD card before I can upgrade my mobile device or did I get a bad 4GB card ?? (I think it is a Panasonic).......
Any help would be greatly appreciated
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You need a SDHC adapter for your home computer to read the 4GIG MINI-SD card.
I had to buy a SDHC card reader/writer so my home PC will recognize the 4 GIG MIN-SD card.
Sandisk 2gb Micro SD :-(
Sandisk offers a micro SD card 2gb with adapters for mini SD and SD. My Treo 750 (WM6) does not recognise that card. An old 512MB card works perfectly but capacity is 90% used by TomTom. Sandisk card seems to be ok, it is usable with Windows XP and Linux.
Funny... I'm using the 2GB MicroSD from Sandisk with the adapter and it works fine on WM6 Aussie. Never tried the other ROMs, tho. It also worked under WM5, but after sleep it wouldn't recognize the card until I reinserted it.
WM6 2.23 same result
Obviously Treo 750 does not support all 2GB cards.
vladimir2989 said:
Whot Maximum miniSD card cen u use in Treo 750 ?
i use 2GB card
will 4GB work ? (i think WM6 support miniSDHC aka 4GB+ )
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Vlad cmotri na togo kakoi windows mobile versia y tebya est. Obuchno c windows mobile 6 mozhew po bolwe espozovat, bolwe dvyx imel... i s windows mobile 5 naveroe 2gb eto samoe bolwe mozhew espozovat.
bitkocher said:
Obviously Treo 750 does not support all 2GB cards.
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from the discussion here, it seems that treo750 will works with ANY mini SD cards, but not all micro SD with adaptors. is this correct?
thanks
blumedic said:
from the discussion here, it seems that treo750 will works with ANY mini SD cards, but not all micro SD with adaptors. is this correct?
thanks
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Not for me. In my 750 I'm using a 8Gb MicroSDHC (of SanDisck) with a Mini adaptors (previously I used it on my T650 with SD adaptor) and it work correctly.
pelliz71 said:
Not for me. In my 750 I'm using a 8Gb MicroSDHC (of SanDisck) with a Mini adaptors (previously I used it on my T650 with SD adaptor) and it work correctly.
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woww.. an 8Gb storage!! it must feel great i'll look for that one too
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Not for me. In my 750 I'm using a 8Gb MicroSDHC (of SanDisck) with a Mini adaptors (previously I used it on my T650 with SD adaptor) and it work correctly.
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wow You can back-up your PC HDD (or zip files)
Yessss, 8Gb it's wonderful, so I've not problem to decide what insert in it. Expecially with music now I can insert all I want.
I bought it to use with my camera (with support SDHC) and meantime with my T650 previously and now with T750.
But now I'm waiting for the 16 or 32 (as soon as in came in market and at low price) !!!
I just got my 8GB micro-sd sdhc card that I ordered from eBay, popped it into mini-sd adapter, put it all in the phone, and it works GREAT!!!
Mind you, this is a generic brand from China (the seller was located in Hong Kong or that's at least where the chip came from) and it works!
Here is the guy's eBay store:
http://stores.ebay.com/YES-E-GOGO
I ended up getting mine for $12.56 - free shipping!
does anyone have problems with their mini sd card where the sd is not recognized by the device after some time and must be reinserted?
problems with sdhc disappering after standby mode
yup i got this prob on my wm5 750. happened after install of sdhc.cab from this forum, but i read 4gb cards no prob. thinkin of updating to wm 6.1 and be done with it. otherwise might try some registry stuff from general--->hacking--->sdhc somtin somethin somthin. sorry cant remeber exact thread.
I use a sandisk 16gb micro sd with mini sd adapter - didn work with wm5 but works perfectly with wm6.1.
Palm Treo 750 and SDHC
Actually Treo 750 work with any micro and mini SD card - the only need is to download the sdhc driver for WM 5 and higher as like it is needed for many other devices who have hardware support for SDHC cards. You only have to plug the synchro-cable then wait until it connects with PC via activesync 4.5, copy the SDHC.cab to the device (understand the corresponding PDA or MDA ) doubleclick the cab and wait till the installation progress notifies about succesfull instalation and confirm reset of the os. After that your device should be able to recognize the SDHC card (regardless the capacity or type (understand the brand and micro or mini) ) and then you should be able to format it, and use as you wish. At least with my TREO 750it works
it will work but you gotta have installed the SDHC.cab (contains SDHC driver ), cause most devices with WM 5 and 6 need this. Since TREO 750 has hardware support for SDHC cards the only need is the SDHC driver. In my TREO it works fine (i had 4gb SDHC and now I have 16 GB and NO problem )
hi folks
this is my first post and any help would be appreciated...
i have a mda vario 3 and am trying to install software on the sdhc card 8gb by sandisak.
my computer sees this as an external drive but still says insert disk in drive d? some colleagfues say the pc cannot read that size of the card and requires a bios update????? any ideas what they are talking about and how i fix this problem
Thanks in advance
Hi tubzy,
I'm new to this topic, but I think you'll need a SDHC compatible card reader.
In the linked thread is a solution I think.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=348995
Bye
EDA-One
no solution still
hi eda-one
sorry this still is no soluton - i do hae the latest sandisk with the card reader and once all this gear is connected to the pc it says...please insert a disk in drive f??
even though the disk is in the usb card reader
did you try format it?
If you have used the card on an 'oldish' PC without the latest BIOS or Windows updates installed it may not be SDHC compatible even using a card reader.
You can also get a situation where formatting using the standard Windows formatter or even just writing files to it from your PC will corrupt its filing system.
There are various utilities available on SD manfacturers sites for formatting and recovery.
Check out the 'Formatting and Read/Write check util in the OEM section here and download the latest drivers for your reader whilst there.
http://sandisk.com/Retail/DriverDownloads.aspx
Hope this helps.
Hi and thank you
HI
Even after trying this it still doe s not work,
I have downloaded the utility and attempted to run it but it says no usb found even though it can vonnect to a usb pen drive?? any ideas ??
thank you
I had that same problem when I first got my 4 Gb SDHC card and it was because I didn't connect the card reader directly to a USB port, instead I was using an external USB port. When I put it in to an onboard one, even though all of mine are on the back of my computer, it started working.
8gb card
Hi and thanks for your response.
i am sorry but can you please clarify what you mean to be onboard usb port. Is this the sockets where you normally connect any usb device eg a mouse to a computer or do you mean i have to take the computer apart and do it a motherboard level?
I am not very technical and apologise in advance if it sounds a silly question.
I bought the damn thing and was hoping it would and should work from out of the cardboard package. I can see this on the my computer as an external drive but when clcikcing on it it says insert disk
if the disk was faulty it would not work on the phone but on the phone it says 7.5 gb available and have stored some data there. So i think it it is a case of the pc not being able to read the card and from there i dont know what the problem is.
Any further light on this subject would really be appreciated
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Hi and thanks for your response.
i am sorry but can you please clarify what you mean to be onboard usb port. Is this the sockets where you normally connect any usb device eg a mouse to a computer or do you mean i have to take the computer apart and do it a motherboard level?
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You have it right about what I meant. I did mean the sockets where you connect any USB device. You don't need to take your computer apart or anything. If that's what you are already doing then it's possible that the reader that you got with the card may just be faulty.
Not knowing what adapter you are using is a problem. I had similar problems with my first SDHC card and finally went to a local office supply store (Staples) and bought a "Sandisk MobileMate+ USB Memory Card Reader" for $15. It is a memory stick sized device and it accepts the SDHC MicroSD cards directly in it's slot. This works great on any PC so far.
It just may be the reader.
thanks!
This is a nightmare on elm street scenario.
I have finally tracked it to a faulty card reader, so i purchased another one. This one works and we have another problem - cannot copy data file path is too deep???????????
I am openeing another thread for that
Thanks to every1 for trying various solutions
I'm guessing you got a bad card..which is going to happen a lot with these high-cap cards, at least for a while. I am assuming you are using the small, plastic USB reader that came with the 8 gb card....that plugs directly into a USB socket? If not...I can tell you right now..the "older" adapters will NOT work with 4/6/8 gb cards. By this, i mean the adapter/reader that usually comes with the cards in the package. Also, it may sound silly..but make SURE you didnt, or are not, forcing the card into the phone/reader backwards...i know it's silly, but it's damn easy to do..and it usually trashes the card. My 8 gb just got in tonight...and it's working like a champ. I'm guessing you got a bad card. best of luck.
This is crazy. My phone reads the card just fine, but the card readers I have do not work period. 8G SDHC
hi all..
just a quick question...
im getting a microSD card 8 gigs, and will be using it only for my kaiser.. now i dont know if i should get a sdhc or a normal card ? whats the differenc on the pda?
thanx
papizdono said:
hi all..
just a quick question...
im getting a microSD card 8 gigs, and will be using it only for my kaiser.. now i dont know if i should get a sdhc or a normal card ? whats the differenc on the pda?
thanx
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There are some 4 GB microSD that are not microSDHC.
8 GB ones are microSDHC.
I'm using a sandisk 8 GB microSDHC in my Cruise and everything is fine
On you exact question : what is the difference I know that SD is using Fat FS and SDHC Fat32 FS. There might be other differences, but I don't know what they are.
Did you check the wiki? I'm sure this had to have been covered before
microSD and sdhc
"sdhc" is a standard for microsd/minisd and sd for sizes larger than 2GB. Thus all 4GB and 8GB (and 16GB and 32GB) cards will be "sdhc" to work.
Or if you are talking about an adapter that takes a microsd and converts it into a standard SD, you would of course require a sdhc adapter. Whether you need one will depend on you, using activesync to transfer large files is painfully slow so putting the 8GB microsd in an adapter and putting that directly in your laptop/desktop can be much more efficient.
I use softick's card export to mount the kaiser drive directly on my desktop and can easily transfer larger files efficiently.
Alan
SDHC - secure digital high capacity
i don't know what's the difference between sd and sdhc (besides capacity), but there is some difference. however, device specification shows what it supports and kaiser supports sdhc
SD officially doesn't support more then 2GB. There are some out of spec 4GB ones, but they don't work in all devices as it's not an official format. To allow for greater capacity the addressing system has been changed in SDHC, along with the default format now being FAT32 instead of FAT16, and the reader/device must support that to be able to access SDHC cards. Some old readers won't read them for example.
So for 8GB you have no choice, 8GB SD cards don't exist.
But SDHC works like a charm in the Kaiser
EDIT: BTW while we're at it... does somebody else have some performance experience with the SanDisk 8GB microSDHC?
It's a class 4 card, so if we believe the specs this should mean 4-6MB/s write speed.
Now the other day I've bought a little Kingston set with a 2GB microSD, micro to mini and micro to SD adapter and tiny keyring USB microSD reader. The idea was to use the USB reader and supplied card as a USB key always on my keyring, while the adapters would be appreciated spares as I always manage to lose them...
The added benefit over a standard USB key being that I can swap the cards with the phone if I need to transfer large files.
So naturally I've put the 8GB card in the reader and started transferring some files to check the performance. Now that's where it becomes odd... I was getting sustained 14-15MB/s writes on the card! I'm not complaining at all of course, but it just seems rather strange nowadays that something exceeds the rated specs that much when everyone is battling for performance!
I've triple-checked with several large files, purposedly unplugged the USB reader right after the copy ended to be sure there wasn't some caching going on, but no, the files were always readable and complete...
Impressive, I've never seen such performance from either a SD card, let alone a card reader that often are slower than the cards... Even my good and fast USB key is slower than this topping at about 11MB/s...
The SDHC speed classes are pretty obscure though, the 4MB/s are supposed to be a minimum under some precise conditions...
Mny PC SD Card readers are not SDHC compatable, so you'll need to mount them via the Kaiser/Tilt/Vario via Active Sync.
Well one compnay here has 3 different 8g microSD cards..
one is 40eur - 8G normal
one is 43eur - 8G ultra II
one is 53eur - 8G sdhc
so still, which one will be faster in the pda?
i have a SD card reader that supports sdhc, so its no problem getting one of them, just want to know if the card sdhc will be slower in the pda couse of the secure stuff?
Normally, the 16GB micro sd card should be in stores this month.
If you have the time and money, I suggest you wait a bit longer and get one of those...
speed of the sd depends on it's class rating:
What is Class Speed Rating?
The SD Association has created and defined 3 speed
classes to help you identify speed and performance
capabilities/minimum requirements of SD/SDHC,
miniSD/miniSDHC, and microSD/microSDHC cards and
the host products. The SD Speed Class Ratings specify
a minimum sustained write speed for
SDHC/miniSDHC/microSDHC cards (Class 2: 2 MB/s;
Class 4: 4 MB/s; Class 6: 6 MB/s*).
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so still, which one will be faster in the pda?
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You most likely won't be seeing a difference. PDAs are usually not capable of accessing a card at more than a couple MB/s, way less that what cards are capable of.
ok thanx... so cheaper / better
maybe ill wait for those 16g, if the phone will support it...
now im using card for navigation (need 2 gig), for pictures (cca 500megs), for Mp3s (cca 1 giga) guess 8g is more then enoug anyway ....
will get the cheapest, hopefully it will be readable on all sd readers
thanx everyone.
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will get the cheapest, hopefully it will be readable on all sd readers
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As said before, 8GB SD cards do NOT exist. Even if not noted by the vendor, any 8GB card will be SDHC, and will require a SDHC-compatible reader.
For my Polaris i'm using this one : http://www.amazon.fr/Sandisk-Carte-...2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1215248577&sr=8-2
Works good. Transfer rate is not too bad.
Not seen any mention of this so far - can happily confirm my new 16Gb Sandisk micro SDHC (from mobymemory) and my micro-mini SD adapter (from a HK ebay seller) work in tandem on my Ameo.
Was sceptical they were going to work - no idea what I'll do with all the space but this seemed like a sensible upgrade.
Used space 32.0Kb
Free space 14.8Gb
Have read of some problems with micro-mini adapters and I had a couple of issues myself. Couldn't read a 128Mb micro card on my Ameo, and my new adapter doesn't work with my PC mem card reader - need to plug the 16Gb directly in to the micro slot, rather than via the adapter in the mini slot.
Thanks for the note. I know I'm buying one shortly. I can use all the space I can for pix & movies of the newborns (and the music.. and full movies.. etc)!
Good to know it will work!
Which micro mini SD adapter did you buy? I am looking for one too.
QAN
I bought mine for £1.50 from overseabridge, search for "MicroSD to miniSD adapter converter SD card - FREE S/H".
I purchased also one 16gb microSD fron mobymemory and works flawlessly in my X7500 with the miniSD adaptor. The sequential max speeds (in a PC) are 18MB/s read and 14MB/s write and this make it a very serious option to upgrade the storage capacity.
Great upgrade!
Can confirm too that this card works without a hitch. Filled mine to within 150mb of max (audiobooks, music, video, photographs & programs) and saw no problems at all. My X7500 now has 24GB of memory! I'm now using the 8GB microdrive as a large file transfer solution.
Buckle my shoe!
hardan said:
I purchased also one 16gb microSD fron mobymemory and works flawlessly in my X7500 with the miniSD adaptor. The sequential max speeds (in a PC) are 18MB/s read and 14MB/s write and this make it a very serious option to upgrade the storage capacity.
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Is that possible? I heard it's a Class 2 card (= ~ 2MB/s read/write).
Yes, is possible, i used two different benchmark programs ans the results are almost identical.
Also i used Total commander (this program have a transfer speed measure utility) copying large files from and to the card and the result is 18 MB/s in reading speed and near to 14 MB/s writing files.
The specifications says Class 2, but really are more than a Class 6.
hardan said:
Yes, is possible, i used two different benchmark programs ans the results are almost identical.
Also i used Total commander (this program have a transfer speed measure utility) copying large files from and to the card and the result is 18 MB/s in reading speed and near to 14 MB/s writing files.
The specifications says Class 2, but really are more than a Class 6.
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thanks, good to know. looks like it's on my Christmas watch list.
hi, I think You are wrong. Class in SD specification meens the minimum transfer, not maximum. If You send large files, transfer is different, much bigger. If You send a lot of small or very files and the card is fragmented the minimum transfer can be about 2 MB/s in class 2.
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hi, I think You are wrong. Class in SD specification meens the minimum transfer, not maximum. If You send large files, transfer is different, much bigger. If You send a lot of small or very files and the card is fragmented the minimum transfer can be about 2 MB/s in class 2.
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thanks for telling me that. I have a class 2 and a class 6 card, and when I write a 700 MB file to each, the class 6 card takes about half the time as the class 2 does. that said, the writing speed of the class 2 card is definitely faster than 2 MB/s, so your explanation is at least partially true, I think.
It depend of card, for example SanDisk microSDHC Ultra 8GB Class 6 write 18MB/s, read 20MB/s, and SanDisk microSDHC 16GB Class 2 write 14MB/s, read 20 MB/s it is maximum speed of the cards. Minimus speed is during write small files.
Test of the cards
Code:
http://www.gpsnarower.republika.pl/
yaughan said:
Not seen any mention of this so far - can happily confirm my new 16Gb Sandisk micro SDHC (from mobymemory) and my micro-mini SD adapter (from a HK ebay seller) work in tandem on my Ameo.
Was sceptical they were going to work - no idea what I'll do with all the space but this seemed like a sensible upgrade.
Used space 32.0Kb
Free space 14.8Gb
Have read of some problems with micro-mini adapters and I had a couple of issues myself. Couldn't read a 128Mb micro card on my Ameo, and my new adapter doesn't work with my PC mem card reader - need to plug the 16Gb directly in to the micro slot, rather than via the adapter in the mini slot.
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I have on my Advantage 7500, WM 5.0, a Sandisk SDHC8GB with adapter micro/mini SD.
My 7500 read the SDHC8GB, but:
- the available memory displayed on my 7500 is only: 3700 Mb
- My 7500 could only open first 4 Gb files
- the others 4 Gb on my 7500 are visible but not available. If I tap on those files my 7500 isn't able to open it
I ask you:
- are you sure that all the 16 Gb in your Ameo are available? If you fill completly the card an then you tap on all the files, the Ameo open all the files?
- if really you can open all the files coul you tell me which brand of adapter micro/mini SD are you using?
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In my X7500 the system shows the whole available card capacity (14.8 GB). I filled the card with large and small files, the X7500 is perfectly able to read and write in the MicroSD without any problem.
I hope it solve your doubts.
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In my X7500 the system shows the whole available card capacity (14.8 GB). I filled the card with large and small files, the X7500 is perfectly able to read and write in the MicroSD without any problem.
I hope it solve your doubts.
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Your 7500 has Windows Mobile native 5.0 or you upgraded it to 6.0?
Wich brand of adapter micro-mini SD are you using?
And where can it buy?
I upgraded the X7500 to WM6 and the MicroSD to MiniSD is one unbranded.
It's possible with an HTC 7500, Windows Mobile native 5.0 (without upgrading to WM6.0), to use a Sandisk SDHC16GB with adapter micro/mini SD?
If yes, in wich way?
Thanks
16Gb
I've just plugged a 16Gb microSD card thru an adapter into my 7500, and I can't get it to see the card - all I can find is the microdrive. What important step have I missed out on?
SD CARD size
i was told the largest Card a X7501 could use was an 8GB sdhc mini card, ?
by HTC.
Anyone with an X7501, Please confirm your personal results, Include brand of card and where you got it.
[email protected]
I was looking at this card for my Dopod U1000 wm6:
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=210881762
and getting the Micro to Mini adapter.
Can anyone tell me if there is a better choice out there?
This is Class 6 and 16GB micro.
Thanks!
I bought a kingston 8gb microsdhc card with a usb reader and I use the udb reader and I get " usb device not recognized"
whats going on?
vasilli said:
I bought a kingston 8gb microsdhc card with a usb reader and I use the udb reader and I get " usb device not recognized"
whats going on?
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More info ?
Operating system? ( XP , Vista, OSX , Linux, Solaris , Ect )
USB Bus specifications? ( usb 1.1 or 2.0 )
Brand and model of card reader? ( Not all do sdhc )
pyraxiate said:
More info ?
Operating system? ( XP , Vista, OSX , Linux, Solaris , Ect )
USB Bus specifications? ( usb 1.1 or 2.0 )
Brand and model of card reader? ( Not all do sdhc )
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xp sp2
2.0
kingston 8gb sdhc and kingston usb reader
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xp sp2
2.0
kingston 8gb sdhc and kingston usb reader
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What is the specific model of the USB reader? Did it come with the card or was it a separate purchase?
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What is the specific model of the USB reader? Did it come with the card or was it a separate purchase?
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I bought this: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4147395&CatId=4020
vasilli said:
I bought this: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4147395&CatId=4020
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Hmmmm seems to me like the reader isnt functioning properly, or your computer is having issues with windows built in drivers ( Unlikely ). Have you tried to put the reader/card into another PC to see if it recognizes there ? If not I would send it back under warranty.
The reader and card are certainly paired and made to work for SDHC so there isnt a compatibility issue. It if works in another PC, it would tell me that you may want to back up and reinstall windows. XP does get shaky sometimes with driver issues but not normally with something so common as a card reader.
One more thing. It seems others have had some issues with that specific combo. If you have USB ports on the front and back of your computer, try using the back ones if youre using the front one now ( Or the reverse if that happens to be the case )
**Edit**
Also take the card in and out of the reader a couple times. Some people are saying its a loose connection between the card and the reader's pins that can cause an issue.
I have the same combo that came with a 2GB card, the reader worked fine with my 8GB card as well. However the reader seems fragile. It works very well when it does and is extremely fast, but now as said it has bad contacts with the card. The problem is different than the one the OP has though, the reader is recognised properly, Windows just says "Please insert a disk in drive X:" when clicking on it. If I squeeze the reader with my fingers it does then touch the card and works. Not really usable that way though