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HTC Touch HD ROM porting to shift?

Hi @all,
Is anybody thinking about porting the WM 6.1 ROM from HTC Touch HD to HTC Shift?
Maybe we can use the Touch Pro ROM to extend the key features on shift?
;-)
Is only a crazy brainstorm ;-)

Yeah, that would be so creazy
Actually, this is not an OS problem crippling the shift but a driver problem. Porting a diamond rom is easy to do, but doesn't bring anything new, and takes more rom space.

thaihugo said:
Yeah, that would be so creazy
Actually, this is not an OS problem crippling the shift but a driver problem. Porting a diamond rom is easy to do, but doesn't bring anything new, and takes more rom space.
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I thought that was some "Bios lock feature the problem, and not a driver problem crippling the shift... do you know something more about this driver?
...maybe, it wasn't a great idea giving the SHIFT to my uncles in York...

thaihugo said:
Yeah, that would be so creazy
Actually, this is not an OS problem crippling the shift but a driver problem. Porting a diamond rom is easy to do, but doesn't bring anything new, and takes more rom space.
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Yes, you are right. It is something to do with Drivers, otherwise liberation would not show complete WinMo.
Thanks
Ram

I successfully ported the SYS from a diamond rom. It gives some better interface, but what is really linking to the phone is the OEMdirvers section. This one cannot be imported from let's say a Kaiser, because the phone look for a sim door for example. So it means new drivers must be found and adapted for the phone, the Wifi and the Xvga screen.
For SD and BT, I think drivers are more or less standard, but as I said in another post, something like the embeded controler is locking it on the vista side.
This is many different sides to work on. I think once the embeded controler (or whatever it is) lock is removed, we will find BT and SD.

thaihugo said:
For SD and BT, I think drivers are more or less standard, but as I said in another post, something like the embeded controler is locking it on the vista side.
This is many different sides to work on. I think once the embeded controler (or whatever it is) lock is removed, we will find BT and SD.
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May be I should put my cycles of effort there.
Thanks
Ram

uiui ;-)
I see... hmm.. my idea was only Windows Mobile 6.1 from a Touch pro for test the integration on Windows Server 2008 and Exchange 2007 on a "big device"
crazy.. driver problems between SD, BT and WLAN. Maybe, the additional Hardware is build on second Hardware Device (for windows use)..
Don´t have any a hardware Layer circuit of the Shift?
I think the only way for porting a WM 6.1 with all features is - to enable the SD Card reader. Maybe (when it works) we can modify with some registry tweaks the SD Memory card as "Virtual ROM".
Sometimes i ask me, whynot I can swap out easily the PIM Database to SD on other HTC Devices. Our Users are Power Users, and the most of them kill the internal memory with they big powerpoint slides... ;-)

If this is what you need, I think I can cook something and post it. But it is not optimized for space.

Hi Thai,
thank you, but don´t make to much if we found a solution to enable the SD Card slot as additional (and standalone WM) drive we have all features open. I think that is the best way, but where are the experts for this?
A other Idea: Maybe the X7510 Advantage ROM is fits more to Shifts Hardware Specs?
maybe there are drivers for SD Card Slot?
Puhh..

B/Tooth, WiFi and SD access are the big gems...shame we're not there yet...

is not a shame
Remember that the Shift is very expensive and the people that can buy this almost not be delicious hackers or developers and the other: there are not so much devices on the market like standard products like Tytn that sells over mobile operators ;-)
sadly, as I see the shift at the Cebit I stopped my ordering. But what the hell driven me, as I order the shift last week again. (I start with a X7510, test it, and think.. poor... so on, sell it again and buy a shift)
Hmm.. I think, i have buyed all nice to have devices of HTC the last 6-7 years.. But now I think it is enough. Always I thinK: WoW, the next Smartphone or PDA must be better.. than I buy it, and see -- hmmm.. ahhh .. ohh.. hmm .. not really better, only a bit
hehe, I must become a special pricing for testing from HTC ;-)
the only really way for all other not working features is, to enable first the SD Card slot. All other comes from alone I think. If teh Shift Users can
porting some apps to SD Card, then it makes much mor fun to hack the Shift (if it possible

joy.d said:
Hmm.. I think, i have buyed all nice to have devices of HTC the last 6-7 years.. But now I think it is enough. Always I thinK: WoW, the next Smartphone or PDA must be better.. than I buy it, and see -- hmmm.. ahhh .. ohh.. hmm .. not really better, only a bit
hehe, I must become a special pricing for testing from HTC ;-)
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You just sounded like me. My first mobile from HTC brand was Blue Angle (Siemens SX66) and I still have it in the attic. Next were Four Wizards. I have give one to my brother, one to a friend and two are with me. One of them my son uses as a entertainment center in the car. He carries all his favorite music and emulated games always and I think for a 4 year old it is great. The fourth one is in the attic eating dust. I bought Audiovox 5600 and then Cingular 2125 for my wife and now she uses iPhone 3G. I still feel iPhone is for novice phone users, who just want to use fancy smartphone. No issues with it. My office phone runs on 8525 (hermes) and my personal runs on Tilt. I want to upgrade 8525 to something like a Personal Business Center, so bought shift with hope that we could have voice and SD enabled sometime.
I had BenQ P50 for soemtime and I felt that it was great until I saw Wizard and felt what I was missing and sold it. It was rugged machine, I cannot play around it. It is sealed. I become addicted to HTC phones. My next upgrade (8525 replacement would be Touch HD or Sony X1 or W1). I am not sure at this moment though. I also have Everun with broadband interface (Novatel pci express card). It is a very good piece. I want to retire it, once I get Shift fully functional, then I will drop the ide of buying into HTC for sometime at least and invest that money somewhere else.
Thanks
Ram

ui, that sounds like me We are far (away) brothers I start first with a Apple Newton, the most of all Palms, some psions, then later some Windows Mobile Handhelds and some PDA´s like Casio E Series.. Then i merged Casio E100 with Siemens S45 mobile phone end of 2000, and talk with some Siemens managers, and then they build the SX45 ;-) (to late) the first PPC with Mobile.. But this all is yesterday... later then HP IPAQ´s, and all branded or not branded nice to have models of HTC..
Puhh. ;-) I think, that "was" my own flat.. but other: so can many friendly hightech computer people
;-)

joy.d said:
ui, that sounds like me We are far (away) brothers I start first with a Apple Newton, the most of all Palms, some psions, then later some Windows Mobile Handhelds and some PDA´s like Casio E Series.. Then i merged Casio E100 with Siemens S45 mobile phone end of 2000, and talk with some Siemens managers, and then they build the SX45 ;-) (to late) the first PPC with Mobile.. But this all is yesterday... later then HP IPAQ´s, and all branded or not branded nice to have models of HTC..
Puhh. ;-) I think, that "was" my own flat.. but other: so can many friendly hightech computer people
;-)
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Exactly. . You will see old HP Jornada (very first Pocket PC), HP Handheld (LX320), iPAQ 3855, iPAQ 310 (GPS companion), iPAQ rx5915 (another GPS) and ASUS R2H, RAON VEGA, Samsung Q1 in addition to 4 to 5 computers at my home. I already have donated few old PCs. I have given my old ViewSonic V1100 to my nephew. He uses it as an entertainment system while traveling and carries his computer games and some cartoons.
Thanks
Ram

Crazy the most same by me
And your´re feel always not empty, with your dreams about the pocket (PC) in the trousers? ;-)

the Touch HD internals Name is blackstone.
See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=451

see now our Hope ))
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448112

Windows 7 Beta

Microsoft just opened up Windows 7.... Just when Vista is even more screwed up. Either way it looks cool.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/beta-videos.aspx
Check it out.

What about compatibility with programs and games? Did u try it?

I never really had any issues with Vista but from what i've played with in Windows 7 it's fantastic.

Hyden121 said:
Microsoft just opened up Windows Mbile 7.... Just when Vista is even more screwed up. Either way it looks cool.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/beta-videos.aspx
Check it out.
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i take you really mean just windows 7....as your links states and not mobile
i have windows 7 x64 and i must say its really impressed me

7 is so cool
Im on Windows 7 x64 too and its the dogs, really loving it.
All those still on Vista, I suggest you burn your hard drive and get Windows 7, its everything Vista should of been
On a side note - anyone know when HTC devices are going to be supported on Device Stage???
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/devices.aspx

duncstar said:
Im on Windows 7 x64 too and its the dogs, really loving it.
All those still on Vista, I suggest you burn your hard drive and get Windows 7, its everything Vista should of been
On a side note - anyone know when HTC devices are going to be supported on Device Stage???
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/devices.aspx
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I suspect we'll at the very least see the Diamond, Touch Pro and maybe the Blackstone (depending if the guys at MS have one I guess), I'm also not seeing any PPC powered devices on this list so they could still be seperate?
Do you know if this includes devices connected via a network share? On one of my networks I have a brother MFC that's connected to one of my switches and it's a bit of a PITA to manage.

windows 7 x64 rocks
i really like the new interface of windows 7 especially the new task bar....and its works like a charm....

hidden_hunter said:
I suspect we'll at the very least see the Diamond, Touch Pro and maybe the Blackstone (depending if the guys at MS have one I guess), I'm also not seeing any PPC powered devices on this list so they could still be seperate?
Do you know if this includes devices connected via a network share? On one of my networks I have a brother MFC that's connected to one of my switches and it's a bit of a PITA to manage.
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I dont mate sorry

I just downloaded it finally but will try it when I get home close to my restoral CD's. I am interesting in the newer device center. Other than that my major questions were pertaining to games and graphics. We all know how the majority of us got jacked over with Vista when it was released with KNOWN graphics problems. If Microsoft ignores the gaming community they will find that many loyal fans who have not left yet will go towards Linux or Apple. I have always loved Linux over MS anyway but have gained a newer resect for apple.... Well kind of.

Bogus
Original post indicates it is win mob 7. WRONG!!!
It is actually Windows 7 OS beta release which is probably what Vista should have been.

4 days of 7 x64...it's amazing. About Device Stage, I think there was something on MSDN about that. I'll go dig it up, I guess. In the end, it's all XML and *should* be pretty easy to do.

I've been running Win7 x64 since Sunday with no issues whatsoever. So far, I love it. It's great. The redesigned taskbar is very intuitive and easy to use. I love the new network manager applet; it behaves like network-manager in Linux. That is, a single click shows a menu-style list of available networks, and another click will get you connected. Win7 also (finally) includes native support for burning ISO images, which makes me thrilled.
I'm not so thrilled that it inherited UAC (running UAC is like always wearing a condom in case you trip, slip, and fall on a prostitute in the shady back room of a hotel in a bad neighborhood), but it's at least got better controls for it via msconfig. Still, I straight-up disable that crap.
Also, the Action Center does a great job alerting the user about potential hardware issues, and it gave me direct download links for getting the proper drivers for my HP dv6700 notebook's card and fingerprint readers.
Additionally, it seems much snappier than Vista. I'm sure that will change in the final release, especially once OEMs get to bog it down with their bloatware, but it's nice for now.
Only complaint is that Chrome won't run on Win7
Other than that, way to go MS!

I've had Win 7 of my laptop for a few months, the only issue I have is it doesn't really work when browsing my network.
I installed the leaked build 6801 back then, since the public release I ran windows update and nothing happened. Does that mean I need to clean install the new release?

I´ll wait for a stable version, just geting used to vista and I´m not an expert so I prefer to wait a few months

What do you mean? This version is stable?
Many people are saying they think really it's past beta and about ready to be launched...

orb3000 said:
I´ll wait for a stable version, just geting used to vista and I´m not an expert so I prefer to wait a few months
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AndyCr15 said:
What do you mean? This version is stable?
Many people are saying they think really it's past beta and about ready to be launched...
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It is EXTREMELY stable. I haven't been able to crash it yet, and believe me, I've been trying.
And it dual (or triple, in my case) boots quite well, so you've got nothing to lose if you want to give it a 20GB partition just to play with it. The current licenses are only good til 1 August anyway, so I'm not looking to use it as a permanent solution.
And it's really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, easy to use. So dive in

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i take you really mean just windows 7....as your links states and not mobile
Yes, Windows 7 was the correct title of the thread but I did catch that I states windows 7 mobile in opening thread box. Sorry about that everyone. I was rading articles on Windows Mobile 7 and looking at Windows 7 at the same time. I have high expectations for both. I will be installing Windows 7 tonight and I will let you know how it runs on my laptop. Hopefully it better manages video memory than Vista does...
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codesplice said:
Only complaint is that Chrome won't run on Win7
Other than that, way to go MS!
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crome doesn't (I don't use it though, because their security is abysmal it's on the same level as safari on windows. but to every man his own) but it does work, you have to run the exe with a certain argument. search at live.com or google.com to find it. I saw it today in my RSS reader.
I'll try to find it for you.
EDIT: here you go http://i.gizmodo.com/5130150/how-to-run-chrome-on-64+bit-windows-7

lennie said:
crome doesn't (I don't use it though) but it does work, you have to run the exe with a certain argument. search at live.com or google.com to find it. I saw it today in my RSS reader.
I'll try to find it for you.
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Found it!
Thanks for letting me know there is a fix
For the rest of yous, you need to add –in-process-plugins to the shortcut launcher command.
Off to go try it.
EDIT: IT WORKS!
Source: http://www.blogsdna.com/1900/how-to-run-google-chrome-on-windows-7-64-bit-version.htm

I didn't check to see if this was in Vista but I just seen in 7 that I can set my background to change in intervals. I set my windows color to clear, so when my backgournd changes its like the window color changes too. I'm gonna check if its in Vista.

Lets do a Walkie Talkie!

Hello, I saw those funny sprint commercials where you have people like delivery men running schools, music junkies running an airport etc.
So I was thinking of having an app for the raph that will use wifi or bluetooth to communicate with other phones in the area running that program.
I found this: http://msmobiles.com/news.php/5440.html
but I was hoping if we can work on one that will run on WM 6.1, and symbian (for those nokia n95s and stuff) to communicate in a walkie talkie like fashion.
Anyone up? =)

its called push to talk, pay for the service.

atomoverride said:
its called push to talk, pay for the service.
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Im sure he is well aware of push to talk. That was a pretty arrogant response to a perfectly legitimate question. I use PTT on my device, and I pay for it.
NOT ALL DEVICES ARE PTT CAPABLE. But all have either bluetooth of WIFI. I would really like to see this mature into a program. I think it would be really cool for a program to use PTT on a wifi connection through a wireless router. That way the rx/tx field would be more widespread than bluetooth.

I started a tread about Loudtalks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3239233#post3239233
Loudtalks is a freeware ;-) IM program for "walkie Talkie" Push to Talk.
And it works all over the world, also over GPRS or Faster.
You don't have to be on the same wifi-point.
It's quick, simple (even i can instal), works on windows mobile and windows pc systems.
Download, install, fill in a username and password and you can chat. Even with your self (echo) hihi.

Thanks, everyone. Unfortuneatley, LoudTalks only works on windows mobile :-(. Having a program that works exclusively on WinMo excludes the rest of the world that has symbian or another OS. Does a multiplatform program all ready exist?
I woould really like to see something like this that takes advantage of wifi or bluetooth.

theomni said:
I woould really like to see something like this that takes advantage of wifi or bluetooth.
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Bluetooth?? with a max range of 10 meters between two phones? hmm if you mumble the otherone can hear you too.

belsj said:
Bluetooth?? with a max range of 10 meters between two phones? hmm if you mumble the otherone can hear you too.
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But it might work from one motorcycle to another or from car to car... Ok, we use PMR or LPD ;-)

sjphone
Use sjphone !

Unfortuneatley many of those applications are available JUTS for windows or JUST for symbian.
I'm trying to find a solution that will work for both.

i think palringo can be used too, it can be used for windows mobile and blackberry.

theomni said:
Hello, I saw those funny sprint commercials where you have people like delivery men running schools, music junkies running an airport etc.
So I was thinking of having an app for the raph that will use wifi or bluetooth to communicate with other phones in the area running that program.
I found this: http://msmobiles.com/news.php/5440.html
but I was hoping if we can work on one that will run on WM 6.1, and symbian (for those nokia n95s and stuff) to communicate in a walkie talkie like fashion.
Anyone up? =)
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It's a waste of time.
Seriously, if you want good talkies-walkies, buy some real.
With bluetooth it's just LOL, and with Wifi it will drain quickly your battery. And all participants must have device compatible and the soft.
And no garanteed it will works nice. Wifi is crap for this usage.

A bit of an old thread but I am looking for exactly the same as the OP and replies such as this are somewhat blinkered.
Kirakira said:
It's a waste of time.
Seriously, if you want good talkies-walkies, buy some real.
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Why waste money when you already have a capable device.
With bluetooth it's just LOL,
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Bluetooth is less suitable than WiFi due to its shorter range, agreed.
and with Wifi it will drain quickly your battery.
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With no knowledge of the intended usage, this is possibly entirely untrue.
My need for this is on a motorcycle when battery drain is totally irrelevant since it will be constantly powered from the machine.
And all participants must have device compatible and the soft.
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When you have such a specific need, I'd say it's perfectly obvious that the participants will be collaborating and have the same software that they need. Another supposed 'negative' that has no substance.
And no garanteed it will works nice.
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Ha, this is Windows we're talking about. It NEVER works nice.
Wifi is crap for this usage.
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Not at all. If that were the case, due to your arguments presented above, no Windows Mobile should ever use WiFi.

It'd still be pretty awesome to have this, lol.

Pocket Fritz 4

Hello there,
this may be a little off-beat, but does anyone know if you can install and use pocket fritz 4 (or another top program, like shredder) on the Hero?
I have no idea!!

FRITZ?
...i wish i could take FRITZ with me wherever i went...although the only FRITZ i know of is the Gentlemens club down the street haha.
...sorry couldnt help

Hahaha got me there. I could have been a little more specific. There's more info on the program here:
Link
It says on the page: System Requirements: Pocket PCs or mobile phones with Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.5, 6.1, 6.0, 5.0 or Windows Mobile 2003 with Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition. Touch screen. For installation: Windows PC with DVD drive. For activation: internet access (from the device or through your Windows PC).
So I guess you really need a windows mobile? Thats a big bummer! Is there a way to get a .cab working on a android-phone (thats not too complicated, so even a noob like me understands?)

Why wold you want that. The graphics are not that good. I have a Windows Mobile HTC Touch Diamond, that runs the NEXUS ONE Android(2.1)(the live wallpapers version) and on the A. Market there are a lot of chess apps that have a good user interface. But I was just giving you an idea.

alizaig0724 said:
Why wold you want that. The graphics are not that good. I have a Windows Mobile HTC Touch Diamond, that runs the NEXUS ONE Android(2.1)(the live wallpapers version) and on the A. Market there are a lot of chess apps that have a good user interface. But I was just giving you an idea.
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Hiya!
Yup, I know there are some other chessprograms, but if you want to analyse a game on the go, I don't think there are much alternatives. Pocket Fritz is simply the best, and maybe even the only one that can analyse a position

the best
hi all ,
yes ! of course pocket fritz 4 is the best and ultimate, and hero of chess in ppc land !
with an elo perfomance near 2938! super grand master ! this means it playse and analaises
more powerful than Gary kasparov !
only for that ,I have stuckked with
windows mobie yet !

Shredder Chess recently released an Android version of the Shredder application. While I don't think it's quite as powerful as Fritz, it does offer you game analysis at a pretty strong level on your Android. It's EU5.99, so about 7 or 8 dollars, which isn't too bad. I've paid for it and it's a very high quality application.

Oh I So Hate Myself

Yesterday, my old computer crashed so I went shopping for a new computer. I don't know what I was thinking, but I came home with a iMac 24'' desktop.
So, say goodbye to my cooking days. This DOES NOT mean that I'll be getting an iphone..NEVER. I will wait until October for WP7(not soon enough).

Moved to Off Topic.
Now why would you choose that? There are a lot of computers coming out with up-to-par technology. Hate to say it, but bad decision.

Imac your going to need a drink or two

i enjoy my mac quite a bit!

Ive never owned a mac but i have heard there not that bad tell me how you like it.

if you like it you can enjoy no matter what ppl tell

you can still run windows on it so why hate you're self lol

Demon_man said:
you can still run windows on it so why hate you're self lol
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Because its a mac. Period

galaxys said:
Imac your going to need a drink or two
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Can't afford one after their latest purchase.

JAguirre1231 said:
Can't afford one after their latest purchase.
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Yeah, so true

got imac and pc (need for different things) the pc does most things but i find the mac better for the following thing
making movies
making presentations
making music
pc is better for all the other stuff

Sorry but,
I also like Macbooks...
Much better design than a windows machine !
and also much more reliable!!!!

Zac.Santer said:
got imac and pc (need for different things) the pc does most things but i find the mac better for the following thing
making movies
making presentations
making music
pc is better for all the other stuff
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I agree,
PC are only good for gaming, and probbalby hacking =]

Zac.Santer said:
got imac and pc (need for different things) the pc does most things but i find the mac better for the following thing
making movies
making presentations
making music
pc is better for all the other stuff
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Yes, precisely that is the reason why I decided on iMac.
so far I like it. I like it because I didn't have space for the mini/Tower and I didn't care much for HP touchsmart.

Taninpv said:
Yes, precisely that is the reason why I decided on iMac.
so far I like it. I like it because I didn't have space for the mini/Tower and I didn't care much for HP touchsmart.
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the touchsmart is awesome (I have one )

TouchSmart
I played with it for 5 minutes and personally, it wasn't what I was looking for.

Taninpv said:
I played with it for 5 minutes and personally, it wasn't what I was looking for.
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Shame, oh well, we all have different tastes

What are the specs and how much did it cost?
[Troll]Anyway good on you for supporting apples march against innovation. Steve would be proud.[/troll]
Man up and build your own next time.

...
Man up and build your own next time..
this is exactly what i was thinking, why didnt you just build your own pc..
1) it would be cheeper
2) personilized to your needs
3) you bought a mac.pmsl

1) Team Edward Wallpaper
2) I named my Mac Macky.