I'm thinking about two things. I dont really use touchflo, but i want a rom thats not program filled, like the stock ones. Touch-IT and PDAViet are sort of fulfilling in this sense, but they include touchflo.
I would be looking for a rom without ANY extra programs, but WITH biotouch (the finger scrolling thing)
Is this possible?
I agree. The cube is nice visually, but it's really kind of pointless.
concur. Maybe we can get somebody of higher knowledge to make us a wing rom with the specified modifications "cough*Itje*cough*. No pressure though.
fzzyrn said:
I'm thinking about two things. I dont really use touchflo, but i want a rom thats not program filled, like the stock ones. Touch-IT and PDAViet are sort of fulfilling in this sense, but they include touchflo.
I would be looking for a rom without ANY extra programs, but WITH biotouch (the finger scrolling thing)
Is this possible?
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If you have a wing like me, you can try the following.
Just an idea, but what about installing the t-mobile rom with just touchflo.
Which does not have all of the extra apps, then go to TF setting and disable all except for Enable Scroll.
Actually, i need the RAM AND the memory that is being taken over by touchflo. Biotouch is useful as hell, but touchflo, even when installed, takes up space. Also, other apps still run in the background. A fully optimized one would run no other apps in the RAM other than those required to function + Biotouch.
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Actually, i need the RAM AND the memory that is being taken over by touchflo. Biotouch is useful as hell, but touchflo, even when installed, takes up space. Also, other apps still run in the background. A fully optimized one would run no other apps in the RAM other than those required to function + Biotouch.
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AFAIK this should not be that difficult, you should be able to seperate biotouch files from the HTC_touchflo oem. Drop a line to PDAViets Tom Codon (he is is the one that created the touchflo oem for cooks) and ask him what the situation is, I am sure he will be glad to help you with a file list that is associated with biotouch. After that it is simple as running a kitchen once and just dropping in the files.Get a list of associated files and I could cook one for you...but I wouldn't take my time with it like itje does, I would just add that and thats it. There is much to be done other than that, mainly registry setting and a clean up of the rom. Should consider checking out the hypercore kitchen thread, it is very easy once you get the hang of it, just very time consuming.
edit:just checked out the oem and most of the files say biotouch before it, the only ones I am not sure about but I think you should include are the.brn files...anyone care to comment on the use of these files
also here is a link for anyone interested in the oem
http://rapidshare.com/files/47474833/HTC_TouchFlo.zip
fzzyrn said:
I'm thinking about two things. I dont really use touchflo, but i want a rom thats not program filled, like the stock ones. Touch-IT and PDAViet are sort of fulfilling in this sense, but they include touchflo.
I would be looking for a rom without ANY extra programs, but WITH biotouch (the finger scrolling thing)
Is this possible?
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that would be nice I never use the cube myself, a vanilla bare bone rom is what I am looking for just like what anichilus did for the wizard I actually started cooking one 2 days ago but I could not get the kitchen to work and the fact that I never cooked a rom does not help much, but a rom based on the T-mo one without any T-mo stuff and all the extra Micro$oft crap and a few basic tweaks would be fantastic I will just keep dreaming for now, I am using the touch-it light I removed most T-mo stuff and all extras that I could remove, changed the pagepool to 4 MB and it's running great thanks again itje, hmmmmm.......whispering vanilla..
I believe the .brn files are animation files for the cube. Dunno how to do this though. I'm clueless in HyperCore. If nobody's asked Tom_Codon, i'll ask him.
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I believe the .brn files are animation files for the cube. Dunno how to do this though. I'm clueless in HyperCore. If nobody's asked Tom_Codon, i'll ask him.
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no need to ask him, got it on the first attempt. I've made a WM6 Herald Rom with the only change being the added biotouch. I'm gonna spend the next few weeks trying to remove all the extra stuff. Unfourtunately I don't have a wing so I won't be cooking a clean rom for the wing(unless someone wants to write down exactly all the files they want me to remove), not familiar with all the stuff they put on there. Although, I can cook t-mobile rom with just biotouch enabled...but who would want to use that with all the extra crap they put in there.
the bm files is the cube
itje said:
the bm files is the cube
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ye figured it out thanks...do you know how I could remove internet sharing completely??
EDIT:I've been able to find and completely remove 100's of files associated with voice speed dial,adobe,audiomanager,windows live&msngr,midletmanager,winzip
the programs I am having trouble fully removing are:
*internet sharing (i know in SYS folder there is INTERNETSHARING...anything else associated with this app) "
mediaplayer (i know its mediaOS but not sure if I can delete the .dll also in these folders)
I'm also planning to remove the games aswell.
EDIT:you think its alright to remove the transriber folders, (3 of em) i notice some picture files in there that might still be needed unless there is another version of them of the rom
If i'm not mistaken, which i probably am, the only difference between the wing and the herald is the keyboard. But i'm probably wrong.
Maybe Itje can provide us with a list of things he changed to make Touch-it for wings.
if you remove to much, the os.nb will become smaller then the 50mb limit and wont work. So if you remove very much, add stuff too
itje said:
if you remove to much, the os.nb will become smaller then the 50mb limit and wont work. So if you remove very much, add stuff too
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wasn't aware of such a limit. at one point I had it tested and working at 43mb. added batterystatus,a theme and some other stuff. Currently I am sitting at 48mb and am looking to have it at around 40mb if possible. By removing WMP and Powerpoint I should get a little closer.
Who told you about this limit btw???
Huh. Sound good. Shame about the potential 50mb limit, thought it would be nice if it wasn't true.
But anyway, what ARE the differences between the herald and the wing? It'd be nice to know, so maybe we can make some cab fix.
neptune said:
wasn't aware of such a limit. at one point I had it tested and working at 43mb. added batterystatus,a theme and some other stuff. Currently I am sitting at 48mb and am looking to have it at around 40mb if possible. By removing WMP and Powerpoint I should get a little closer.
Who told you about this limit btw???
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Meschle (chef on artemis section, and moderator)
but maybe thats just on the artemis....
If you get it to work on lower mb, thats just good herald owns artemis
btw, I managed to port a rom (sys folder) from a artemis to herald, I flashed it today and it worked great.
Im gonna port a rom to the wing when im done with the ones im working on now. Currently working on getting the Kaiser sys ported to herald, if this is success ill do one for wing too.
dang. hopefully it IS just for artemis
Oh and i worship you.
let me know how that kaiser port comes port comes along. I would love to play around with that in a kitchen.
cheers
btw itje whats the memory situation on your latest rom after a fresh flash for the storage and program memory, both the total and in use...just curious for comparison
Ill give an answer to that later tonight (gmt +1) Im gonna test a new build then
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Theres like 6 threads with like 50 pages each...and i've read almost all of them....but my question is which WM6 of crossbow are you using? So far i know theres
1. Chinese version
2. Stock leaked one
3. PDAViet 1
4. PDAViet 2
Which ones are you guys using and why? THanks for the responds guys
None, they're buggy, obviously unfinished and of dubious origin.
im using pv2...it has nice little addons to it, and it seems to be smoother...
markgamber said:
None, they're buggy, obviously unfinished and of dubious origin.
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But that's what makes them so FUN!
i totally agree with you guys. Thats what makes these roms fun. i just got tired of trying to decide which rom to mess with and all that fun crap. i just wanted to see what fellow modders were doing with their roms and what they learned and what they have accomplished. i see that on PDAViet 2 for some reason my screen keeps turning on. and sometimes my softkeys wont work. does any one by anychance have a solution to thi stuff? Thanks
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None, they're buggy, obviously unfinished and of dubious origin.
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Agreed.
I tried them out, but they were pretty buggy and impossible to make everything run as smoothly as WM5.
I need stability and a smooth running PPC. Not some glitchy buggy unreliable WM6.
Plus WM6 adds zero true improvements. There is just no reason to use these pre-release versions.
I hope they get WM6 fixed up correctly before actually releasing it to the public or WM6 is going to suffer a horrible fate.
Need another option: My own cooked version
I cooked up my own version, modeling it after Risidoro and Molski's, adding all the cool TSK files, camera themes, ringtones, Ris' network tools, Adobe Acrobat LE. mbutton in ROM and in startup, Total Commander in ROM, enabling the ZIP tool, added traylaunch and battery status and adding in the faria camera fix.
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks to Risidoro, Molski and Faria for the great tutorials. I spent hours working on this to get it working just like I want it.
Rom stats, from a fresh boot with mbutton and activesync running:
Storage:
Total: 47.46mb
In use: 10.87 mb
Free: 36.60 mb
Program:
Total: 49.70 mb
In user: 22.96 mb
Free: 26.72 mb
wow thats awesome bro! is your cooked rom a WM6?
deviusdragger said:
wow thats awesome bro! is your cooked rom a WM6?
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Yes. Sorry. It is the Orwell, I guess, one.
I just read about editing the HV files, so now my little cab file that I run afterward to add in MMS, GPRS, etc, will be integrated into the ROM directly, along with Midlet Manager, TRE and whatever else I can inject into it.
yeah i had to put all my internet and gprs settings my self from my other 8125. so far i like the way it looks and its running pretty good now that i took some stuff off the start up folder like tray launch and smartskey. dont really need them. i have pocketplus running just fine on there just like batterystatus and today plugin.
nightowl007 said:
Yes. Sorry. It is the Orwell, I guess, one.
I just read about editing the HV files, so now my little cab file that I run afterward to add in MMS, GPRS, etc, will be integrated into the ROM directly, along with Midlet Manager, TRE and whatever else I can inject into it.
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Can you share some experience about editing HV files? I can't find any sources for it. Thanks.
Well. Let me first say this.
Apparently what PDAViet has done to Faria's hard word and effort can simply not be justified imho.
To be honest I have PDA Viet2 installed. But that was before I read what they did with Faria's hard work. And I simply don't have time now to switch to another WM6 rom, otherwise I'd installed Faria's latest and greatest Rom 3.3.
Nevertheless I must say that the PDA Viet2 rom works fine on my MDA. Even my 4gb minisd works flawlessly (although i'm still looking for some tweaks to improve read/write performance with it). They also put some security to it with removing the windows update option (which apparently causes trouble to some users).
But, to stay loyal to Faria, just because that man really does great work, whenever there's another rom (a better one/more complete one) and I have some more time, I immediately switch to another rom.
I love WM6, on my device it runs so much more smoother than WM5 did, and after running the MMS cab patch, i'm fully sorted. All of my software work on it perfectly, it's extremely fast (i haven't even had to over clock it like i used to do at 240mhz).
I now want to really get into understanding how to tweak and create my own Roms.
Nightowl007 WM6 ROM
nightowl007 said:
Need another option: My own cooked version
I cooked up my own version, modeling it after Risidoro and Molski's, adding all the cool TSK files, camera themes, ringtones, Ris' network tools, Adobe Acrobat LE. mbutton in ROM and in startup, Total Commander in ROM, enabling the ZIP tool, added traylaunch and battery status and adding in the faria camera fix.
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks to Risidoro, Molski and Faria for the great tutorials. I spent hours working on this to get it working just like I want it.
Rom stats, from a fresh boot with mbutton and activesync running:
Storage:
Total: 47.46mb
In use: 10.87 mb
Free: 36.60 mb
Program:
Total: 49.70 mb
In user: 22.96 mb
Free: 26.72 mb
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Release! Release! Release!
(...please?)
how did u do the mms cab patch. where did u get it from
hustle said:
how did u do the mms cab patch. where did u get it from
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read the forum
the one from here didnt work for me im on tmobile. i put in the settings n still nothing
i have mms arcsoft 3.0.9 something something.
what steps did u to make yours work
ARCSoft Inc MMS Composer 3.0.7.19.cab
i used that one
Files names
deviusdragger said:
Theres like 6 threads with like 50 pages each...and i've read almost all of them....but my question is which WM6 of crossbow are you using? So far i know theres
1. Chinese version
2. Stock leaked one
3. PDAViet 1
4. PDAViet 2
Which ones are you guys using and why? THanks for the responds guys
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I think we could get better results if people knoew how to identify which WM 6 rom they have.
I have orwell
the other day I downloaded 1.Crossbow_Underground_Edition.exe but I am not certain if this is updated
WM6 Upgrade on Wizard
Hey Guys I ran the WM6 orwell update and it did its thing, but when it rebooted it was still WM5 (blank no user data) do I have to do anything special after I disconnest?
Well, I have cooked a personal norwegian touchflo wm6 rom, based on the new official wm6.
Thanks to tom_codons for the released worling oem touchflo.
And i used gollums touchflo fix, and its not activated by a button, but activated by sliding a finger from top to bottom.
Im not gonna release my rom the way its now (if ever), because I did not implement the touchflo fix in the rom, it was installed with a cab after flashing.
And there is alot of work to do with the rom itself.
But, I have the kaiser home plugin, the touch commManager, the touch dialer and the kaiser networkwizard working.
and I have added a few apps like PIMbackup, total commander2, Sun Java, pocket rar, htc audiomanagerand a few tweeks.
Its running very good.
I just have to figure out to change the pagepool so that wont be needed after flashing, and I need to do some regedits.
If anyone have oem regedits, please provide me with a link. Like in.ex not having the cabs deletet after install, etc etc.
Ill start working on a wwe this week.
Ill was thinking making just a few edits and implement touchflo, so that ppl can have a "clean" os.nb to work with. But im sure some more experienced chefs can tune it way better then me
Congrats - glad you got it sorted. Most of the reg edits are in wiki - majority of wm5 ones apply to wm6. If you have problems let me know. As for pagepool look at the thread in elf upgrading - it worked on my artemis rom so i am sure it will work on your herald, pm me if you need any help.
thx man, it has been quite alot of hrs gone by to get it work, thx to many.
Ill post both norwegian rom and wwe when I belive they are ready, and I will give proper credits to all who has helped providing sollutions.
But be careful offering help, I might take you up on that lol
Zorro helps when he can lol
itje said:
Well, I have cooked a personal norwegian touchflo wm6 rom, based on the new official wm6.
Thanks to tom_codons for the released worling oem touchflo.
And i used gollums touchflo fix, and its not activated by a button, but activated by sliding a finger from top to bottom.
Im not gonna release my rom the way its now (if ever), because I did not implement the touchflo fix in the rom, it was installed with a cab after flashing.
And there is alot of work to do with the rom itself.
But, I have the kaiser home plugin, the touch commManager, the touch dialer and the kaiser networkwizard working.
and I have added a few apps like PIMbackup, total commander2, Sun Java, pocket rar, htc audiomanagerand a few tweeks.
Its running very good.
I just have to figure out to change the pagepool so that wont be needed after flashing, and I need to do some regedits.
If anyone have oem regedits, please provide me with a link. Like in.ex not having the cabs deletet after install, etc etc.
Ill start working on a wwe this week.
Ill was thinking making just a few edits and implement touchflo, so that ppl can have a "clean" os.nb to work with. But im sure some more experienced chefs can tune it way better then me
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can you please tell me which rom u have used? do you have a link?
itje said:
Well, I have cooked a personal norwegian touchflo wm6 rom, based on the new official wm6.
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Tha1nOnly said:
can you please tell me which rom u have used? do you have a link?
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It doesn't seem you've paid attention enough while reading his post!
Peace!
slvrbllt said:
It doesn't seem you've paid attention enough while reading his post!
Peace!
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yes ure right, im sorry bout that. but can somebody tell me if there is a standalone touchflo plugin which i can install on my p4350 herald with wm6?
I'd wait for ITJE's release.
I mean, there's a plethora of different ROMs and setups out there, most of the times overloaded with programs you would never use.
An official WM6 ROM with only HTC Home and/or TouchFlo is definitely what most of us are waiting for.
As far as I know, there is no single CAB to install TouchFlo, while the HTC Home plugin is available on this forum (Kaiser version works fine with our Herald).
Hope it helps.
M.
slvrbllt said:
I'd wait for ITJE's release.
I mean, there's a plethora of different ROMs and setups out there, most of the times overloaded with programs you would never use.
An official WM6 ROM with only HTC Home and/or TouchFlo is definitely what most of us are waiting for.
As far as I know, there is no single CAB to install TouchFlo, while the HTC Home plugin is available on this forum (Kaiser version works fine with our Herald).
Hope it helps.
M.
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yeah i know i already installed the htc homeplug from the touch i guess with the 3 tabs and i installed the comm manager from touch/kaiser
so bad that there can not be only one cab file with the touch cube in it ^^
but you are right most of us waiting for a wm6 rom only with htc plug, comm manager, dialer skin and of course the touchflo
Well, my rom is very fast and stable for now, but im still missing a few things I want in it.
touchflo is real good, and buttonfree, its just a slide from top to bottom and its activated, Way cooler then having either soft or hardware button assigned to activate. I think I might work on the WWE (english) side by side with my norwegian, I belive I can have it ready this upcoming weekend, but no promise
itje said:
Well, my rom is very fast and stable for now, but im still missing a few things I want in it.
touchflo is real good, and buttonfree, its just a slide from top to bottom and its activated, Way cooler then having either soft or hardware button assigned to activate. I think I might work on the WWE (english) side by side with my norwegian, I belive I can have it ready this upcoming weekend, but no promise
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sounds very nice, could you also make a german rom or can i switch this from the english one to german then?
fast ROM?
itje said:
Well, my rom is very fast and stable for now, but im still missing a few things I want in it.
touchflo is real good, and buttonfree, its just a slide from top to bottom and its activated, Way cooler then having either soft or hardware button assigned to activate. I think I might work on the WWE (english) side by side with my norwegian, I belive I can have it ready this upcoming weekend, but no promise
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Have you done some optimizations to the original ROM? I'm just curious, because I find the WM6 ROM a way slower than the WM5 5.4.xxx.
No other languages will be made but english and norwegian, sorry.
Not in the near future anyway, I still have much to learn, and beeing confused by languages I dont know, well that wouldnt go well
I AM NOT, gonna cook on request, add this and that, sorry.
First I want to cook up a norwegian rom, that is like I want it, and im gonna cook a english rom with touchflo, touch commManager, touch dialer, kaiser network wizard, and some small apps that most ppl install anyway.
If ppl dont like, dont download when its up, its that easy
When I have completed what I want, I will look into doing some requests.
But for now, just the 2 im working on.
Oh, and yes its faster, atleast on my herald, so how it works on others I dont know, I should be same, but I dont know...
I have dones some optimizing and done some tweeks so that it has become better, in my opinion...
BTW, using touchflow almost requires that you use batterystatus and overclock the cpu from 201 to 247. I run 260 on mine, and have done so for a long time.
cheers
Wow, really looking forward to seeing that touchflow ROM. My co-worker told me about it and showed me how it worked. Looked absolutely great.
Overclocking a phone seems a bit alien to me as this is my first windows based phone. Guess I still have a loads to learn
Looking forward to the release of the ROM
itje said:
No other languages will be made but english and norwegian, sorry.
Not in the near future anyway, I still have much to learn, and beeing confused by languages I dont know, well that wouldnt go well
I AM NOT, gonna cook on request, add this and that, sorry.
First I want to cook up a norwegian rom, that is like I want it, and im gonna cook a english rom with touchflo, touch commManager, touch dialer, kaiser network wizard, and some small apps that most ppl install anyway.
If ppl dont like, dont download when its up, its that easy
When I have completed what I want, I will look into doing some requests.
But for now, just the 2 im working on.
Oh, and yes its faster, atleast on my herald, so how it works on others I dont know, I should be same, but I dont know...
I have dones some optimizing and done some tweeks so that it has become better, in my opinion...
BTW, using touchflow almost requires that you use batterystatus and overclock the cpu from 201 to 247. I run 260 on mine, and have done so for a long time.
cheers
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ok thanks i will also grab the english language rom, no problem for me
with the overclocking i have a question: with which program did you do this? and what you mean with using batterystatus?
I think your doing a great job cooking this rom I got my herald just this weekend and can't wait till you finish it.
I would rather like a dutch rom offcourse, but WWE will do also.
Anyway, nice job Itje!
Regarding TouchFLO - I'm running PDAVIET TouchFLO on a standard P4350 (no overclocking) - runs fine. I think it's bull to say you have to to overclock to make it run nice. Runs smooth as silk here.
/Inc
well, you must think its bull as much as you want. Ofcourse it runs smooth on a pdaviet, Tom is a wizard with cooking, he and many other have done this stuff many times before, and have tweeked their roms to a level I havnt dreamt about or thought of.
The stuff I now know, its knowlege from hackers like him and others, all I have done is putting that knowlege into a rom, so that I can have my native language with some of the features they have provided us with.
Instead of complainting about things I want and dont want in their roms, I cook my own. I decided to share that I could get it to work on a official rom because so many has asked for it (not from me, but asked in general if someone could do it)
AND..based on a official, unmoded os, with touchflo, YOU try to make it run like the touchflo on toms pdaviet roms, your welcome to try, come on and give it a shot, cook your own rom without tweeking it any and just add touchflo, try before you claim that what I say is bull.
Anyway, after I did a couple of tweeks and edits on the rom, It was better, and actually going ok, but when I overclocked it, its a dream to use.
Maybe some day im gonna be good enough to make a rom with heavy apps running on it without overclocking.
But, Im happy I have achieved my goal. I did what I wanted, cooked my own rom, with touchflo and other stuff.
And I decided to share it, so that if anyone who wants can use it and do whatever
Stop being so self righteous ... it doesn't suit you well.
/Inc
Here is as requested, a base rom.
Im giving you here, something I didnt actually want to do. My kaiser build for wing, but no apps but comm manager and touchdialer (I left those because the default has been stripped out)
The stuff removed:
All custom apps
Games
Transcriber
office
internetsharing
my5 fav
win live
live update
alot of ringtones and unusefull sounds
alot of gif files
cant remember the rest right now
This roms is ment for cooking your own rom, not for release of "your rom" after building it like you want. But I cant control that, but do so, and you will never again see work from me on xda.
I left in the rom the .rgu files, so recooking wont be a problem.
If you need apps to include, find them. I will not provide that for you.
Oem packages is all over this place.
So, follow my tutorial to extract it and make your oem, sys and rom folder.
Add the stuff you want and build it as you want for your own device.
I have not had the time, nor do I have the time to flash this to my own to test it, but I see no reson why it should not. But before you come yelling about it not working after you followed the tutorials and w/e, test it by flashing it to your device before you try to cook it.
I removed aprox 16 mb of stuff, but Im not sure what this will show up as after flashing since I dint have time to test it myself.
btw
pagepool is left to default
The os.nb is packed with winrar, so unrar/unzip it.
happy cooking/flashing
cheers
Download:
Rapidshare
Megaupload
(The reason im releasing this is because I have other projects I wanna do, my own device has been neglected to long, and I need to give p4350 users a better build too.)
and yeah, im sure many are waiting for the next part of the tutorial, I hope to finish it before next weekend, my schedule is pretty tight right now.
Maybe I will give a go for ppl to release their rom from this, but not yet for awhile.
Please try to build your own if you wanna release something
good luck experimenting on this
cheers
Thanks for this clean baserom.
But for now my Terra is dead. It felt on the floor and the camerabutton is broken. So i can ONLY enter bootloader - because the cam is allways pressed....
I have to send it to service.
And btw - Hard-SPL isn´t working. Not now....
Thanks for your great work.
awesome dude i'll be sure to try this out and report my (hopefully!) favorable results!
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Thanks for this clean baserom.
But for now my Terra is dead. It felt on the floor and the camerabutton is broken. So i can ONLY enter bootloader - because the cam is allways pressed....
I have to send it to service.
And btw - Hard-SPL isn´t working. Not now....
Thanks for your great work.
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aw thats crappy. cant you "jog" the cam button loose?
but I guess, its better to make the pros fix it then attemting and ruining it more
btw, if its broken, you can by my p4350
Im getting a Kaiser in january
cheers
Question...
You said you wouldn't like anyone to release a ROM based on your ROM. What about a kitchen and use your ROM as one of the base ROMs they can use? All the TOUCH-IT stuff would stay untouched (if the "branding" is still there), all credit to you would still be there. All they would be doing would be checking boxes of what apps they would like to have. They won't be able to do a lot, since it's a fixed function, but at least for people who don't have time, like your ROM and want to make a personal one with the apps they want, it would help out. It's the alternative to a fully cooked ROM which would have a truly customized setup. I could even draft up a "license agreement" stating that they can't release a ROM created with that kitchen... (And place something hidden from them in the ROM to let you and I identify if the ROM just released was made with the kitchen.)
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You said you wouldn't like anyone to release a ROM based on your ROM. What about a kitchen and use your ROM as one of the base ROMs they can use? All the TOUCH-IT stuff would stay untouched (if the "branding" is still there), all credit to you would still be there. All they would be doing would be checking boxes of what apps they would like to have. They won't be able to do a lot, since it's a fixed function, but at least for people who don't have time, like your ROM and want to make a personal one with the apps they want, it would help out. It's the alternative to a fully cooked ROM which would have a truly customized setup. I could even draft up a "license agreement" stating that they can't release a ROM created with that kitchen... (And place something hidden from them in the ROM to let you and I identify if the ROM just released was made with the kitchen.)
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Thats why this rom has been released, so that ppl can use it as base in hypercore.
Im not gonna build a kitchen, to hypercore is far the best I know of (kudos to anichillus) And oem packages are placed all over xda forums, search in kitchen threads for the other devices, most apps work for herald.
I dont need no agreement, I was hoping that what I said would be enough
cheerz
I was porting over a new kitchen for people who just wanted point and click, but instead, I might just make a thread as a repository of all the different packages that they can use with your ROM... I don't know. I guess it depends on how much time I have to work on it. The Kitchen Port seems simpler since I have it set ready for the most part...
thanks but i hope the repairing will cost less than your p4350
btw - it was an brand new device since they changed it after i disclaimed the loose slider. it was only 2 month old.....
we´ll see what happens...
itje said:
aw thats crappy. cant you "jog" the cam button loose?
but I guess, its better to make the pros fix it then attemting and ruining it more
btw, if its broken, you can by my p4350
Im getting a Kaiser in january
cheers
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I guess this means I'm buying a Kaiser in January too
duprade said:
I guess this means I'm buying a Kaiser in January too
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And on christams I take your WIng as a present under my christamstree.....
lol
papamopps said:
And on christams I take your WIng as a present under my christamstree.....
lol
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I guess it's unanimous, Kasiers for everyone, LOL. It will be a Christmas gift to myself, lol. Maybe I can sell my p4350 and Ipaq 6828 for accessories, lol.
your a bunch of copycats
itje said:
your a bunch of copycats[/QUOTE
I'm actually planning on upgrading from my P4350 by Christmas anyway, lol. It's time for an upgrade anyway, I had this device for a year now and served me well. I'm either going to get a HTC Kaiser 120 or E-ten Glofiish M800; and a 6mb memory card or course, lol. I'm leaning towards the HTC Kaiser 120 because of the, video calling capabilities, 128MB of onboard RAM and the 3meg pixel camera. I just hope that these devices are not obsolete by then LOL.
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Has anyone cooked with this ROM, yet? I get it installed, it boots but I can't get past the setup because the touch screen won't work.
EDIT: I tried flashing this ROM directly and the touch screen did not work. Did you remove the touchflo from it? (And thus removed the standard touchscreen driver? As I thought they were tied in together. I might be dead wrong about that.)
Sorry, man. You're ROM doesn't quite work.
EDIT: Were you using FTouchFlo instead? I thought they had actually cracked Touchflo itself...
Either way, the ROM's touch screen system doesn't work. :-/
ivanmmj said:
Has anyone cooked with this ROM, yet? I get it installed, it boots but I can't get past the setup because the touch screen won't work.
EDIT: I tried flashing this ROM directly and the touch screen did not work. Did you remove the touchflo from it? (And thus removed the standard touchscreen driver? As I thought they were tied in together. I might be dead wrong about that.)
Sorry, man. You're ROM doesn't quite work.
EDIT: Were you using FTouchFlo instead? I thought they had actually cracked Touchflo itself...
Either way, the ROM's touch screen system doesn't work. :-/
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All oem apps are stripped out, that includes touchflo. therefor the default touch.dll folder is also removed. from oemdrivers
This rom is more ment to be a base for the tutorial, extract it, then build on it. Add touchflo..w/e.
But the thing is, it boots up, and youi get to the point where you are supposed to setup touchscreen, and thats actually a working rom for me. It proves that the 50mb limit I mentioned before is no issue, so to me, is your info good news, Im happy for herald users. And so should you be.
So why not extract it, and move it to the build section of hypercore.
Then extract the wing official, go to oem/oemdrivers and copy the touch.dll folder, move it to the build/oem/oemdrivers build the rom, flash it and have a working base rom.
and no, I never have used ftouchflo, I use the original htc touchflo
cheers
itje said:
All oem apps are stripped out, that includes touchflo. therefor the default touch.dll folder is also removed. from oemdrivers
This rom is more ment to be a base for the tutorial, extract it, then build on it. Add touchflo..w/e.
But the thing is, it boots up, and youi get to the point where you are supposed to setup touchscreen, and thats actually a working rom for me. It proves that the 50mb limit I mentioned before is no issue, so to me, is your info good news, Im happy for herald users. And so should you be.
So why not extract it, and move it to the build section of hypercore.
Then extract the wing official, go to oem/oemdrivers and copy the touch.dll folder, move it to the build/oem/oemdrivers build the rom, flash it and have a working base rom.
and no, I never have used ftouchflo, I use the original htc touchflo
cheers
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Cool [about the touchflo] What I mean, though, is that when I flash the base ROM with NO changes, the part where you setup the touchscreen is NOT working for me. I tried it three times. hmm...I wonder if it's a wing vs herald thing?
EDIT: ohhh, I see what you're saying now. lol sorry
touch.dll isn't in the official dump. That doesn't make sense... it HAS to be there somewhere... I'll try to redump it.
lol. I figured it out!!
01/30/08
Here's the updated version with RGU's and internet sharing in it. It's not padded and it's in os.nb form. Cooks, have fun. People who aren't cooks. I'll upload an NBH version soon. Just don't have the time right now.
NBH version lacking RGU's and Internet Sharing
CleanROM Final Herald
CleanROM Final Wing
This is just something I put together before going to bed...
OS.NB format with RGU's but broken DSM's
Wing Version
Herald Version
Here are the OEM, SYS and ROM folders...
oh oh... I think I left the Herald Keyboard driver on there...
Please replace the keyboard drive with the Wing driver and then run G'Reloc to set it for the Wing.
It doesn't have a splash screen added...
What I've done:
Cubeless Touchflo
Killed the installation of the extROM. I'm gonna be playing with this later... At the moment, I'm using it to install the default theme.
Killed My5. It's a memory/space hog.
Pagepool is 6MB as 4MB doesn't perform as good with certain apps.
Built in Aserg's Policies
Killed all but one Sliding sound. It's disabled by default.
Memory optimizations for larger caches and hopefully a faster device. (This takes up some memory, though...)
Removed Bluetooth FTP (can be added by package.)
Replaced IA_ZIP with WinRAR. (Either can be added by package when the kitchen is released.) (You still have to launch WinRAR at least one time to create the file associations.)
NETCF 3.5
Removed SQLCEMobile
Removed a lot of junk in general. WMA's, MP4's, BMP's, etc.
Replaced the dialer and Comm Managers with HTC Touch/Duo themed ones.
Notes will only work if you add Office to the ROM. (So the release has the base files needed for it to work without actually having office.)
Advanced Configuration - I'll move this to the black only soon.
BatteryMeter - And this.
Left Entertainment in there. Solitare and BubbleBreaker. - Going to move it to Black only later, though...
etc, etc, etc
Or at least I think... I forgot... It's late and I've been working on another ROM, so this was just an after thought.
Cool.
Is the Office in?
Sweet. I will try this when I want more speed...
Unless the speed doesnt compare with the ItsBlack Rom by Itje...
Thanks for the hard work m8
Office?
CommZ said:
Is the Office in?
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Its name is CLEANrom. Not Contaminated...
Office.. *shaking head*
Monarch73 said:
Its name is CLEANrom. Not Contaminated...
Office.. *shaking head*
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lol. What ^he^ said. This is a base CLEAN rom, so no office.
As far as being faster than itje's. I dunno. I haven't tried his ROM. Try it out and tell me.
ivanmmj said:
As far as being faster than itje's. I dunno. I haven't tried his ROM. Try it out and tell me.
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Ayerthon said:
Sweet. I will try this when I want more speed...
Unless the speed doesnt compare with the ItsBlack Rom by Itje...
Thanks for the hard work m8
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What about NOT making a competition out of romcooking. As i understand it - a clean rom is basicly made for people who want to build their own rom - with the kitchen Ivan is going to release.
And a full rom is for people who don´t want to install apps...
But a rom is only as good as it is for my PERSONAL use.
SO it doesn´t matter which is the fastest, smallest, nicest, buggiest......
..... just matter - "Do I like it or not?"
cheers.
Your's is smaller and faster than mine.
Great Work. Waiting for the one with the Radio. thanks!!
ivanmmj said:
lol. What ^he^ said. This is a base CLEAN rom, so no office.
As far as being faster than itje's. I dunno. I haven't tried his ROM. Try it out and tell me.
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Will you release also the padded version?
I will release a black version later. I'm also working on a newer build....
Guys, please keep this thread clean. No family unfriendly content.
As far as the faster and better thing, it's not a contest. My ROM isn't just a base ROM for my kitchen, though. Some people just like having a clean ROM. The less things running, the faster a ROM can POTENTIALLY run. But the less features that it has, also.
You are my new best friend
ICP-Fan said:
You are my new best friend
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lol. Yay!
My apologies for the comment. Don't what possed me. Sorry.
No worries. ^_^
May not need to wait for radio
Ivan, I'm using open Touch 2.7 Slim Line with new Radio cooked in. Since you did not cook the radio in, if I flash your clean rom will it keep the radio I have from ttran's ROM?
(hope that's not too confusing_)
also is it too much trouble to ask if you can remove the two games and reup the ROM. If it is no problem, I can live with them in there.
When will EBO be ready?
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Ivan, I'm using open Touch 2.7 Slim Line with new Radio cooked in. Since you did not cook the radio in, if I flash your clean rom will it keep the radio I have from ttran's ROM?
(hope that's not too confusing_)
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The radio will stay with whatever you have already.
zcink said:
also is it too much trouble to ask if you can remove the two games and reup the ROM. If it is no problem, I can live with them in there.
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The games I took off originally, but people complained...
They won't be on the next Clean ROM I'm making... but at the moment, my PC is fried so it's hard to get my laptop to rebuild a rom... It's old.
ICP-Fan said:
When will EBO be ready?
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It depends on when I'll have time...
Here's a runaround of my schedule:
I am working at the moment. I will go home and sleep for 5-7 hours depending on when I get out of here and then wake up to do homework. I will work on 5 chapter reviews that I have to fill out. Then I have to study for a test. Then I get to work again. Then I'm back to sleep to wake up and take a test. I have class the rest of the morning. Then I'm back at work. Then I go to sleep and wake up to work on a paper and a presentation poster, both due the next day, neither I have had time to start... then I have to go to work... then go home to sleep. Wake up to turn them in and go to class... then go to work... etc. Fun stuff.
But I WILL try to set aside some time soon.
Do you know, that HTC Album acts a little bit weird in beta 2? All fonts are missing and it is unable to delete photos (it absolutely ignores tapping on the icon).
CommZ said:
Do you know, that HTC Album acts a little bit weird in beta 2? All fonts are missing and it is unable to delete photos (it absolutely ignores tapping on the icon).
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Didn't happen to me... I'll test the final with it and see if it has the same problem.
Well, I want to make a new ROM, but this is the part I need help on. I want as many people to put in what they might like in a new ROM. Once I get enough replies, I'm going to check out which ones were the most popular. If all goes well, I'll try to make the ROM as best I can.
Why do I want to do this? Well, occasionally, I'm really bored and I have nothing to do, and plus it's really fun making them.
Just another note, please don't spam or go off topic on this thread. I just want this specifically for opinions about the majority of what people might like on a new ROM.
Thanks!
umchriswho said:
Well, I want to make a new ROM, but this is the part I need help on. I want as many people to put in what they might like in a new ROM. Once I get enough replies, I'm going to check out which ones were the most popular. If all goes well, I'll try to make the ROM as best I can.
Why do I want to do this? Well, occasionally, I'm really bored and I have nothing to do, and plus it's really fun making them.
Just another note, please don't spam or go off topic on this thread. I just want this specifically for opinions about the majority of what people might like on a new ROM.
Thanks!
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Wow,
Your already thinking about the next release?
Your first rom was just released a few days ago..Man your fast.
ttran001 said:
Wow,
Your already thinking about the next release?
Your first rom was just released a few days ago..Man your fast.
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Well, my ROM was pretty basic.
For this one, I want everyone to have a say, and I want to try to make it different. It's not like it's going to come out soon, but I just want to get the idea of things. So basically, it's undecided right now.
How bout something Totally Different?
Just a thought.
How about a total vista rom. From the splash screens to Today and system Icons -- totally vista orbs and icons. Not a big fan of vista but the interface is really nice. I won't use the word pretty.
Built on WM6.1 with the latest radio rom. Glossy black bars. Even the animated orb at boot up. ????
Just a thought. Bet it would be popular.
yeaa do what zcinc said...and make it almost like a tablet pc if possible..make it as close to the pc experience as possible...i no u can do it..
Yeah, from my experience most people either way as much speed and space as possible ( blank rom like ur 1st ) or EyE Candy (Vista Release perhaps ?
mac anyone?
full mac ui for us mac lovers, and I don't mean iphone-blah.
would be nice to see a mac flavored rom -- =)
One thing i'd like to see and i don't hope is a spanish rom... i'd tried to make it myself and didn't do a great job exactly... i'll try another time, maybe.
This isn't a suggestion, i understand there's no interest in making one, just a loud-voice-thought.
Really popular having vista theme
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350011
papamopps said:
Really popular having vista theme
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350011
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This looks like something to be included with my next release...lol
papamopps said:
Really popular having vista theme
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350011
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Ohh... pretty... Interesting tidbit of information: One of my original cleanROM themes was a vista themed everything. But this is prettier.
I might include it as part of the kitchen I may or may not be releasing this week...
More Ideas
This is something like what I was thinking for the boot end:
***really awesome animated splash screen included in the .zip file .............
also, I have tons of icons and system files for the Vista look, extracted from wisebar themes. let me know if you want them for cooking.
Also, if someone can figure out this whole orb replacing the flag thing, they would be a ****en Genius.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342077
I just downloaded a Kitchen today. Going to try my hand at cooking. I may or may never come up with a rom but I will try. Totally lost at this point but I will learn.
How about a 6.1 that has MMS working
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I just want this specifically for opinions about the majority of what people might like on a new ROM.
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Everyone makes ROMS with lots of stuff pre-installed. I'd like to see a ROM that's as close as possible to the WinMo that came pre-installed on my Wing, except for the following:
Leave out:
Adobe Reader LE
MyFaves app
t-zones wifi finder
Esmertec Java
misc crap I'm forgetting right now
Add:
BatteryStatus
6 MB pagepool
Today theme of Developer's choice
Touch dialer
Touch comm manager
WM6.1 if possible
Oxios mem manager or similar
As well as a package of "highly recommended" cabs that can be installed individually. For example, lots of ROMs have HTC Home 6 tab pre-installed. I hate the profiles tab, so I just use 5 tab.
Just my $.02
I would like to see the option to create a paging file on SD card and the ability to turn EV-DO off and make it STAY off, especially while connected to WiFi (my phone occasionally will use ev-do even when a wifi connection is present). Turning data off in comm manager does no good as it will automatically redial.
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I would like to see the option to create a paging file on SD card and the ability to turn EV-DO off and make it STAY off, especially while connected to WiFi (my phone occasionally will use ev-do even when a wifi connection is present). Turning data off in comm manager does no good as it will automatically redial.
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1. Paging file?
2. EV-DO? I'm gessing you don't have a herald. hehe -Turn off automatic Mail Push, though, and it should stay off. (Also turn off anything automatic, time and all.)
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Everyone makes ROMS with lots of stuff pre-installed. I'd like to see a ROM that's as close as possible to the WinMo that came pre-installed on my Wing, except for the following:
Leave out:
Adobe Reader LE
MyFaves app
t-zones wifi finder
Esmertec Java
misc crap I'm forgetting right now
Add:
BatteryStatus
6 MB pagepool
Today theme of Developer's choice
Touch dialer
Touch comm manager
WM6.1 if possible
Oxios mem manager or similar
As well as a package of "highly recommended" cabs that can be installed individually. For example, lots of ROMs have HTC Home 6 tab pre-installed. I hate the profiles tab, so I just use 5 tab.
Just my $.02
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hmm... sounds like my preference in ROMs... I may or may not release something this week that may fix this for you...