Hi - ive tried looking through the threads but cant find anything, so apologies if im repeating something all ready asked..
Ive been noticing on recent phone bills that im getting charged for gprs calls that i definatly havnt been making but my phone company insists that i have. After further investigating, ive seen that if im using wifi, and the phone turns to standby, when it switches back on gprs has been activated and is running underneath wifi.. and this is where (i think) my call charges have been coming from...( i hope that makes sense!)
Is this a common problem with the stellar/kaiser/tilt or just a problem with this individual unit - also, if it is a common problem is there anyway in which i can stop it happening?
I can understand where it is coming from.
When you go into standby (ie turn off the screen), the phone turns WiFi off to save battery. This makes sense, but imho WM is still too stupid to understand the concept of money. Result is that when it tries to continue doing whatever it was doing it will open a new connection and it's first choice is the GPRS/HSDPA connection.
As far as I am aware, the options to stop this from happening again are....
1) Stop WiFi from turning itself off when the phone goes into standby. I'd do this using KaiserTweak - the Option is under "Data -> Wifi standby mode"
2) Disable the GPRS connections so it can't connect. One way is to remove the password so it asks before it connects. There's also a tool on here somewhere that allows you to quickly enable and disable connections. Here looked promising, posts a link to modaco
Hope that helps.
I have recently procured an HTC Diamond mobile and is facing the following problem:
I have a Linksys Router at home. When I switch on the Wi-Fi in my Diamond, it gets connected to the router. In the status, I can see the signal strength, Tx, Rx rate etc. But when I open the browser (both opera & IE), the web pages does not open. Error message stating check the url or does any other programme using the internet works? appears. Even my weather does not get updated. Using the same router, I am able to connect my laptop as well as my desktop to Internet.
When my diamond is synced using active sync, my mobile is able to connect to the Internet & Weather application also get updated.
Kindly help me to resolve this issue and make diamond connect to net using wi-fi.
Thank you in advance.
I have the same problem sometimes
I just changed parameter in settings -> connections -> wireless lan -> power mode -> "best performance" instead of "best battery" and it seems to work now.
I'm new to WM, so I don't know if it's a bug: when I don't use my phone I press the power button, or I wait it to go to "sleep mode" in 40s.
When I press power button to reactivate the screen, I can see in the first seconds that the wlan was disconnected and connects again.
So it seems that wifi is always disconnected when the phone is in sleep mode? That means no mails can be received ? Can anyone confirm?
Thanks
Hi there for both of you!
I had a connection problem with my Diamond at home. It was almost the same as tkak just I couldn't figure out whether ActiveSync connects or not. I managed to bypass this to set my routers DHCP timeout from 1 week to 3 hours and it all went away. The network status showed periodic connect/reconnect during the problem so it might be a different prob than yours.
Peio64:
WM6 keeps WiFi connection asleep during sleep mode. Imagine the battery usage if it was connected to WiFi all the time. So be happy with that and beside it is usable. WiFi automatically tries to connect to the closest hot-spot if it was connected before each time you switch on. Normally it shouldn't take more than 5-10 seconds and the whole process can be followed on the top bar.
Mails: Use DirectPush and GPRS connection and e-mails will arrive instantly. Google for setting this up. With Wifi I dunno - if you schedule ActiveSync for a periodic check whether your WiFi will be used or a new GPRS connection. I think GPRS can be used while the device is asleep but I'm not sure. Someone should test this. Probably whichever is quicker to build up a connection will be used for data transfer. (Note: on some forum I read that if you disable GPRS auto check with a tweak battery will last longer so I guess this means that GPRS is always connected.
Regs, Cina.
Does your diamond obtain an IP adress from your router, and is the connection setup as 'connects to internet'?
cina said:
Hi there for both of you!
Peio64:
WM6 keeps WiFi connection asleep during sleep mode. Imagine the battery usage if it was connected to WiFi all the time. So be happy with that and beside it is usable. WiFi automatically tries to connect to the closest hot-spot if it was connected before each time you switch on. Normally it shouldn't take more than 5-10 seconds and the whole process can be followed on the top bar.
Mails: Use DirectPush and GPRS connection and e-mails will arrive instantly. Google for setting this up. With Wifi I dunno - if you schedule ActiveSync for a periodic check whether your WiFi will be used or a new GPRS connection. I think GPRS can be used while the device is asleep but I'm not sure. Someone should test this. Probably whichever is quicker to build up a connection will be used for data transfer. (Note: on some forum I read that if you disable GPRS auto check with a tweak battery will last longer so I guess this means that GPRS is always connected.
Regs, Cina.
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Thank you for your answer,
I had a SE P1i before, and wifi was connected all the time with push mail. With the diamond and its weaker battery, I set up my mails schedule to connect every 15 min so wifi only needs to be active every 15min, even in sleep mode, I don't want it to be connected all the time this is of course a battery waste.
HSDPA is connecting in sleep mode there's no problem with that, I just wish to use wifi for mails when I'm at home as my data plan is unlimited for web surfing but only 10Mo/month for pop/imap connections.
BTW I don't use the "keylock" option, is it different from sleep mode in this case? I can't see the advantage of keylock versus sleep mode
I had an ETEN M600 for ages before and I found that for sync it always used GPRS even if WiFi was available. The cause for this was GPRS was available while device is asleep so it can start syncing immediately after wake up (does it needs to wake up for sync?). So you probably have to switch GPRS (HSDPA) off while you're at home.
Keylock is for locking hardware buttons and touchscreen while it is active. (You won't dial up anyone from your pocket). It has nothing to do with sleeping just if you set up the registry tweak the device get locked (Keylock software is started) if you press power to send it to sleep. (I've almost written "off" but it is obviously not true - you can switch it off with a long press on power = soft reset).
Hope this helped a bit.
Cina
Okay thank you, I checked and HSDPA is connecting every 15min in sleep mode even with wifi ON. If I switch data off I suppose nothing connects and no mail is received, which is I think it's a weird behaviour.
By the way, I have set my data connection to swich off 10 seconds after not being used, and it works perfectly and reconnects automatiquely when it needs to. But for the wifi I can find that option, it's stays connected all the time when I use the phone, even if I don't need to. Is it possible?
Maybe it's due to the fact that it's always checking if there are new networks? On Symbian UIQ3, you can pre-configure networks, give manually priorities for each networks (1.Wlan work, 2.Wlan home, 3.3G etc..) and for each application (web, mail, etc). When the phone connects it checks if the network "1" is available, if it's not it checks the network "2", and once it's connected it doesn't check anymore. Is there a WM6 advanced network tool like that?
(Sorry for my english)
I did the following and now it gets connected to the web:
I just changed parameter in settings -> connections -> wireless lan -> power mode -> "best performance" instead of "best battery".
I do not know why this needs to be done like this.
Thankyou all for resolving my problem
I'm experiencing problems connecting to my WL Router (DrayTek 2820n) using WiFi when the router is set to Auto instead of to a specific channel. I've noticed from some threads for other mobiles that people are exprience similar problems. Does anybody knows what is the story around which channels are supported on WiFi: 1-11, 1-12 or 1-13. My router is set to 13 by default. In addtion to that Diamond has problem to connect to some channels even in the 1-11 range. So how can I check, which channels are supported and for which region?
Edit: I did further testing and it became obvious that when using Auto channel selection on the router, Diamond wouldn't connect. When selecting manually any channel between 1-11 it works OK, but when selection channels 12-13 it stops working, which makes me believe that the Diamond doesn't have support for the channels for non-US regions.
Does anybody have any idea how to change wifi region to support 12-13 channels as well? So far I couldn't find anything on the net that would help me doing it. Is it possible that it might be WM 6.1 issue and not Diamond?
HI I am actually having a diffirent issue but still related to wi-fi. When my phone awakes from sleep, it promts me to connect to my wi-fi server at home, when it was already connected jus minutes before. I have to re-enter the pass phrase everytime it awakes from sleep. This does not seem normal as my 6.0 touch didnt do that.
Any takers on this?
For more channels, it depend of US version or EU version. You need to changer your firmware but the problem is that in France for Internet you use PPoA and Belgium PPoE and I do not know if in the US they use the same so you will probebly losse your ability to connect to the Internet. Having more channels is not interesting because you need a hope of 5 between channels ( ex : ch1 + 5 = ch 6 and ch6 + 5 = ch11) between ch1 and ch6 place a ch11 for avoiding interferances. In 802.11g that is a question of scheme.
Sorry for my poor English.
Problem connecting to home network wifi
Hi, i've been using diamond to connect to my wifi home network but since few days is not possible anymore even if nothing was changed in the settings of the router.
The phone recognize the network as available, i push connect, it comes connecting but instead of connecting to the netwok it goes back to available.
Password is correct and the setting are the same as few days ago.
Any idea which setting should be modified?
Thanks in advance!
Panco76
Hello everyone,
I have one problem with my diamond. I disabled the "data transfer" with the improved comm manager. I usually use wifi when i'm home, however, i've seen that even though wifi is active, HSDPA connection is activated as well so i got charged, this sometimes happens when updating weather data or downloading emails.
Anyone with the same problem?
Yes - having he same problem.
I have WIFI at home and at work - so i want to use GPRS only when i am outside. never managed to do this - except when i kill GPRS fully - and even then Opera, the weather and push-mail wont work. :-(
WiFi Channels 12-13?
I need to bump up this issue again.
I can't find anywhere in this forum how would you change your WiFi channel range from US to EU (i.e. 1-11 to 1-13). My Diamond was purchased in Australia and I was hoping that the new SW upgrade would rectify that, but it looks to me that's not the case. Any idea if that can be done in registry?
Thanks.
Change Channel range from 1-11 to 1-13
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Has anybody got any ideas how to increase the channel range from 1-11 to 1-13?
Hi, I am having a seperate problem from all that are listed. I have the linksys rangeplus router, and my Diamond wont even detect my network when it searches, yet my computer and PS3 do fine. Can anyone help me?
another problem...
Hi,
i have a problem with the wifi on my Diamond aswell..
I have a router at home which is encrypted. When I try to connect to it, I type the encryption key and it says Connected but i cant surf any pages. When i go back to wifi settings my home network switches between Not available and Connecting...
However, when i remove the encryption, everything seems to work fine. Since i dont want to treat my neighbors with free internet, does anyone have any tips for me?
(it is set to Best performance... +i'm sure i enter the right key...)
Thanx
The same over here... I found out, that some of cooked ROMs had this problem, but official worked. Before I couldn't connect via WPA2-PSK AES, all other encryptions worked. Until now... I tried to flash official ROM and RADIO, but it doesn't work anymore. I'm pretty sure it must be hardware problem. I need to send my Diamond to get fixed, but... The closest repair centre is in Prague (GSMobile)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!BUT BE AWARE!!!!!!!!!!!
I owned previously Qtek8310. After I send them my Qtek to replace the joystick, it came back with broken motherboard... This repeated 3 times and everytime they broke something else. I've got my Qtek8310 back as a total crap, destroyed and scratched... I called and send a claim to HTC Europe in London, but nothing happened since then. I don't believe them anymore. If you love your Diamond avoid to get it fixed in GSMobile!
Hi,
My Tytn II seems to have problems waking up from stand-by and retrieving emails at via wifi connections. I have set up the send/receive schedule to 5 minutes. The only way I seem to be able to retrieve emails via wifi is to wake the phone up manually (eg. press buttons) or wait for a reminder/alarm to sound which wakes the phone up.
Interestingly it doesn't have any problem waking up from stand-by/sleep to retrieve emails via a cellular (3G/HSDPA) connection.
I've installed KaiserTweak and set up the following:
- "Battery Resume from Suspend": 90 seconds (Max)
- "Wifi Standby Mode": Disabled
When I enabled "Wifi Standby Mode", it retrieved emails on cue, but this consumed way too much battery unfortunately, so it isn't acceptable.
I would really appreciate any ideas on how I can get the Tytn II retrieving emails according to the schedule by waking itself up from stand-by/sleep.
Thanks very much,
Prembo
It's not gonna work for you unless you enable the wifi standby mode. How can it know if you have emails if it doesn't have a data connection? The 3G connection will stay active while the phone is in standby, and as such can grab the emails on cue. But by allowing the wifi go into standby when the phone is in standby, you're effectively turning off the internet connection altogether. Either have the wifi standby turned off, or have it retrieve by 3G.
My 3G/HSDPA connection doesn't remain on permanently either.
I have it set (using KaiserTweak) to disable Data Connections (3G/HSDPA) after 1 minute of use. So my 3G/HSDPA is off whilst in stand-by mode most of the time.
However, the email retrieve schedule wakes up the Data Connection and then retrieves email. It doesn't seem to be able to however to wake up the Wifi connection and retrieve emails.
Enabling "Wifi Standby Mode" permanently leaves wifi connection active even during standby, therefore draining the battery significantly.
But it seems to be a fairly straightforward thing to wake the wifi connection up (just as it does the cellular connection) based on the email retrieve schedule.
PS. I'm connecting to the work network via wifi and therefore don't have access to work emails via cellular network.
Have you guys have the same problem?tryed all the radios on the market..they stream perfectly on wifi ,but when i lock the screen it just stops streaming.If i turn the screen back starts as normal.Any idea how to get over this?
No problem for me with lastFM.
This should work ... but it doesn't
Just in case you haven't tried - in the settings menu, Wireless and Networks, Wi-Fi settings, then press menu again and find 'Advanced'. Here lives 'Wi Fi sleep policy'. It looks promising, the obvious move is to set this to 'Never'.
But it doesn't solve the problem. Like you I'm finding that it is a problem with all radio streamers, some worse than others. If I turn wireless off and use 3G its fine.
Thanks for posting the issue. I thought I was the only one.
No problems with TuneWiki over WiFi and 3G...
i find that even if you set the wifi never to sleep it still does. i frequently use aftp to transfer movies and stuff to my phone over my lan, so ill set it to transfer like 3 gigs of stuff and go to bed, even though its set never to sleep the socket still gets closed at some point at night. so id say your problem lies with wifi sleeping.
also some online radios stop automatically after a certain amount of time incase you arent listening anymore to save bandwithd
Maybe its in the app settings. You didnt specify which app it was also...
This might help
When you connect Wi-Fi make sure to turn off your cellular network. N1 has this weird problem where in as soon as screen is off, it drops the wi-fi connection and goes on to cellular network.
So if you switch off ur cellular network it maintains its Wi-Fi connection even when the screen is off.
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Maybe its in the app settings. You didnt specify which app it was also...
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i use mainly "AOnline radio" but i have tryed pretty much all from the market and all do the same. trying with the settings now..post if any change.
edit:yea still stops...strange try with gsm off and still same thing...is it there any solution to get over this thing?i just liten now with the screen on) eats the battery..it's ok but why not better?
The Nexus one activates some kind of energy saving mode as soon as you turn off the screen. This makes the WiFi connection very laggy, though stable for me. This is independent of the WiFi sleep policy. There's a bug report because of this for Sipdroid and I've also seen this issue while being connected to the phone via SSH. The connection is just fine as long as the screen is on, but if it's off, there's about 1 second delay.
However, I never had the problem you describe. Droidlive, for example, works just fine.
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The Nexus one activates some kind of energy saving mode as soon as you turn off the screen. This makes the WiFi connection very laggy, though stable for me. This is independent of the WiFi sleep policy. There's a bug report because of this for Sipdroid and I've also seen this issue while being connected to the phone via SSH. The connection is just fine as long as the screen is on, but if it's off, there's about 1 second delay.
However, I never had the problem you describe. Droidlive, for example, works just fine.
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i will check droidlive myself right now...thank you for explinations..is there a way to talk with cyan and maybe he could overpass that wifi sleepy thing.
edit: also noticed if you ahve a download or something and turn the screen off goes very slow..so this problem i think really have a priority to be solved.
edit2:still stops...what would be the thing?wifi priority changed.do you have any type of settings?full app?
I'm listening to a ShoutCast stream with AOnline right now, using WiFi, screen is off. Works perfectly. Do you see this problem with other access points, too?
SLightworkaround....
If you can keep it plugged in...set the SCREEEN TO NEVER SLEEP...under settings>>>applications>>>DEVELOPMENT>>>STAY AWAKE... hope that helps!
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The Nexus one activates some kind of energy saving mode as soon as you turn off the screen. This makes the WiFi connection very laggy, though stable for me. This is independent of the WiFi sleep policy. There's a bug report because of this for Sipdroid and I've also seen this issue while being connected to the phone via SSH. The connection is just fine as long as the screen is on, but if it's off, there's about 1 second delay.
However, I never had the problem you describe. Droidlive, for example, works just fine.
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This is the problem yes... Just try to ping your N1 while turning the screen off/on... Ping jumps up as soon as the screen is turned off...
For me Streams stop when I have a weak signal to begin with, which does not get better when turning the screen off
"KeepScreen" might help...
Hello guys,
this is my first thread here in this forum. I got my TyTN-II 2 Weeks ago, a used device for 99 Euros. A good deal, i think. After playing around with some of the Roms i found here, i found M-Diamond 1.2 to fit most of my needs. When first used the phone, i disliked the behaviour of connecting to hsdpa, 3g or something else that was inside coverage, and not releasing the connection. The longest time i experienced was 3 hours of open but inactive connection. I found out, WMLongLife could help me greatly, together with the option to kill connections when standby is enabled i thought there shouldnt be any connection at last, when i leave the phone unattended with 1 minute auto standby.
But that was an error. Yesterday i was driving around in my car, having paired the phone with my bluetooth car-hifi and while listening to the great sounds of dj doboy i heared these noises from my phone establishing a connection! the noises weren't all the time. it seems it was some sort of keep-alive. no, it wasnt the sound of the phone registering to another antenna. this occured even when i stood in a parking lot. what the hell? i double checked the configurations but everything seemed fine. but why the hell is the phone establishing a connection.
Second issue may depend to the first one, since it touches connections, too. When i reach my Work or my Home, whose access points are stored in my phone, it connects to them... and keeps the connection. all the time! even if its unused. that drains the battery to zero in a very short time. I looked over the configuration of WMLongLife, but found nothing helpful related to switching wlan of when unused. i found one option inside the wifi configuration page, telling windows mobile to switch off wlan after x minutes. i tried the lowest setting and waited. it disconnected and disabled wlan. but instead of re-activating and re-connecting it when trying to use the browser, it used the 3g-connection WMLongLife was establishing automatically (what was correct because i told it to give the browser 3g access when no wlan is connected).
my old nokia (n95) establishes a wlan connection only if needed and kills it when the establishing program closes. too, there was a tool called smartconnect, where the user was able to put a stack of connections and create one single connection out of it, enabling the nokia to choose itself what available connection should be used. i used to put my home wlan in first place, second was the work wlan and third was the mobile net. i tested and trusted this constellation even in standby mode because it does what it promised. one Battery charge lasted about 5 days.
Windows Mobile connects.. to wlan forever, searches wlan networks forever, connects to mobile net sometimes for whatever even if connected to wlan, even if told not to do so, draining both my flatrate and the battery power in an useless way. mail synchronization is enabled any 2 hours only, weather info is disabled. one battery charge lasts a half day when not making any calls. so what keeps windows of connecting all the time?
is there any way to adapt the behavior of the nokia phone to my kaiser? maybe the connection architecture is not able to do this because windows uses its connection points in another way like nokia does. But perhaps there is a tool to do this?
Any suggestions?