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If you stuck on boot or color screen !

Guys,
This is my experience with O2, which stuck on boot after udated to new IVAN's ROM.
First of all I'd like to thank Ivan for his great job.
Now, what I did:
Downgraded to se2003
Unhide, Unlocked EXTROM
Repartition EXTROM to 8MB
Upgraded to new WM5 ROM
Reboot -> STUCK !
I found the solution which worked for me and may be will help you too.
More, after my second attempt to upgrade ROM, my Laptop rebooted itself a 47% ! I did panic- my device was gone dead!
even Bootloader mode was unavailable.
OK, I disconnected PDA from cradle, removed battery and left it for 10 minutes. Then I put battery back, and was able to put it into bootloader mode.
Then, I run mtty utility and typed in "set 14 0" I'm not sure why and how, but it allowed me to to go to bootloader mode.
-I set SE2003 OS
-I repartition EXTROM to 16MB
-Updated again to new Ivan's WM5.
Voila ! it's OK now. I'm installing all needed CAB's and now have clean very fast and working OK WM5 OS o my O2 XDAs PDA.
( although have not tryed yet BT and WiFi)
I'm afraid the problem was due to setting number 8000 KB in partiotion tool set it actually a bit less something about 79xx KB.
May be EXTROM for Ivan's ROM did not like it and failed to boot. But this is just a speculations, I'm not sure. I should perhaps set size o EXTROM to say 9000KB and try again, but simply did not have a time to do test.
Nevetheless, I'm happy now.

can u provide me step by step (noob guide) to downgrade back to wm2003se ... the one i downloaded from the official site doesn't work ... it will say error and i still stuck with wm5 ... im a noob ... please really help, thanks

ok at last i found it ... extract the installation files provided by o2 ... put the rom file into the downgrade folder provide by the modified rom pack ... now i try go back to wm5 ... wish me luck

i tried go back to win2003se but when i use the unlocker tools it failed ... so i guess i will nvr get to see the ext rom ... anyway as long as the phone can be use i will leave it as it is now

Yes, I know, it gives you an error message (something about wrong parameters) on unlock. But, under that you can see another message box with unlock OK message. Quite weird.
Steps I took to downgrade are exactelly as instructions in downgrade folder.
And one more thing I forgot ! After unhiding I did soft-reset, then unlocked and then Formatted ETROM folder before upgrading to WM5.

COM said:
And one more thing I forgot ! After unhiding I did soft-reset, then unlocked and then Formatted ETROM folder before upgrading to WM5.
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maybe that's why u able to see the extrom after upgraded to wm5 ... btw i install the cabs one by one and now my wm5 worked ... guess imnot going to touch it anymore, but the performance is actually quite slow ... do you actually install all the cabs into the device, storage card, or extrom partition (i dont have this) ... to maximise the performance?

what WM5 are you using?

if you ask me, i'm using Ivan's ROM + radio 15.0 with about 10 diff. cabs installed.
performance is not such impressive, but everything is working and I do not have soft I won't use.
clean and quite reliable, but speed is slow.

COM -
I also got stuck with a white screen after flashing ArtZ Rom and doing a hard reset.
Just a white screen and nothing happens.
Flashed other Roms - back to Tuma - same thing - white screen after hard rebooting.
Stuck and confused now.
Any ideas for a solution?
Thnx

OK - I am back.
Panic mode over - whew!
Flashed back to WM2003 from i-mate site - it worked.
Then flashed to latest ArtZ Rom.
Don't really know what happened or why. I've upgraded to nearly every WM5 Rom with no problems. suspecting the partitioning of extrom?

hasanj4 said:
OK - I am back.
Panic mode over - whew!
Flashed back to WM2003 from i-mate site - it worked.
Then flashed to latest ArtZ Rom.
Don't really know what happened or why. I've upgraded to nearly every WM5 Rom with no problems. suspecting the partitioning of extrom?
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I am still in the same problems. I can't downgrade to
Windows SE2003, becouse of error 113: "Extended ROM
Update Error". Stucked in white screen and, after reset
at 3 stripe-colored-screen.
Does anybody know the solution for this issue ?
Thank you in advance.

try this for whoever get stuck at boot screen or in bootloader mode
1. Download mtty v1.42 from http://files.pdamobiz.com/ROMs/XDA/mtty1.42.rar
2. Stop ActiveSync, by Task Manager (press Ctrl + Alt + Delete)
kill two processes rapimgr.exe and wcescomm.exe
3. put your device into Bootloader Mode by pressing Power + Record Button and Soft Reset.
4. Run mtty (from downloaded) Choose WCEUSBSH001
5. type "set 14 0" without the quotes to tell bootloader to boot the OS after reset.
6. type "task 28" to get your device formatted
7. type "task 0" to ask your device reboot
8. take the device out of the cradle, and manually reset it if it does not do that already.
good luck.
Sam

imatrix said:
try this for whoever get stuck at boot screen or in bootloader mode
1. Download mtty v1.42 from http://files.pdamobiz.com/ROMs/XDA/mtty1.42.rar
2. Stop ActiveSync, by Task Manager (press Ctrl + Alt + Delete)
kill two processes rapimgr.exe and wcescomm.exe
3. put your device into Bootloader Mode by pressing Power + Record Button and Soft Reset.
4. Run mtty (from downloaded) Choose WCEUSBSH001
5. type "set 14 0" without the quotes to tell bootloader to boot the OS after reset.
6. type "task 28" to get your device formatted
7. type "task 0" to ask your device reboot
8. take the device out of the cradle, and manually reset it if it does not do that already.
good luck.
Sam
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imatrix, thank you very much, your hint solved
this issue with stucked boot screen and Extended
ROM Error when downgrading to SE2003.
I already tried with mtty and "SET 14 0", but
don't know for the other commands / task 28, task 0.
The main hint is "task 28" which made DOC_format_HW+
DOCInfoTableinitHW+ other formatting.
Again, thank you very much and all the best to you.
Greetings from Croatia, the small land for a great vaccation ;-)

@MDA3_CRO
Just saw your post.
Could not get mtty to work.
Will keep your instruction for future use (hope not).
Glad your .paper weight' is useful now

Please help I have tried all the above and none of it has worked, I'm still stuck in bootloader screen.

i dont understand what you mean by
4. Run mtty (from downloaded) Choose WCEUSBSH001
5. type "set 14 0" without the quotes to tell bootloader to boot the OS after reset.
6. type "task 28" to get your device formatted
7. type "task 0" to ask your device reboot
when i run my mtty it just opens "Open Port Settings" then it goes to a window that shows i can type in it but it only allows me to copy paste words into it. Can anyone help me please?! i just want to be able to use my BA again

any Professionals here. Where is my Extended Rom ?

Hello All,
I have PDA2k. I (formated my Extended Rom to 128 KB) to upgrade to WM5 by logout everything was fine but I used DOC_Repart under this copy of WM5 it opend but when I formated it The phone didnt open (Stuck on the boot) I downgraded to WM2003SE and when i try to unlock the Extended Rom I got this error
Code:
ERROR: Open - The specified network resource or device is on longer avaliable
when I tried to format under WM2003SE I got this error
Code:
Create handle failed
ANY SOLUTION MY PDA2k is dead :roll:
Thanks in advance.

Follow the wiki wm5 downgrade and use the doc tool to create a 16mb ext rom.
Deleteted your double post in hacking

MDAIIIUser said:
Follow the wiki wm5 downgrade and use the doc tool to create a 16mb ext rom.
Deleteted your double post in hacking
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1st of all thanks for your reply.
I did follow the instruction but I got the error on the 1st post it seems that the Extended_Rom is deleted not resized to 128KB any tool to creat a permenent partition and name it Extended_Rom.
Thanks again.

Hi,
Try to install 2003 software, you can find it at Club Imate, as this will re-install the EXT-ROM then again Unlock it and Repartition it to 16MB. By this way you will get the original ROM Version 2003.
Hope this will help.
Daihi3003

daihi3003 said:
Hi,
Try to install 2003 software, you can find it at Club Imate, as this will re-install the EXT-ROM then again Unlock it and Repartition it to 16MB. By this way you will get the original ROM Version 2003.
Hope this will help.
Daihi3003
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Thanks for your reply. But the problem is worse than that I tried this many times bt as the Extended_ROM (club i-mate) size 16 MB and the device Extended_ROM is reformated to 128 KB it cannot install it and when I tried to Format or Unlock it I got the errors as the 1st post and also I noticed that the bluetooth giving me license expired error and the device always freezes. If there is a program that Can Creat a temp disk like the one in WM5 or any method to Creat a drive like that (PERMENANT DRIVE) I'll be thankful

imatrix said:
try this for whoever get stuck at boot screen or in bootloader mode
1. Download mtty v1.42 from http://files.pdamobiz.com/ROMs/XDA/mtty1.42.rar
2. Stop ActiveSync, by Task Manager (press Ctrl + Alt + Delete)
kill two processes rapimgr.exe and wcescomm.exe
3. put your device into Bootloader Mode by pressing Power + Record Button and Soft Reset.
4. Run mtty (from downloaded) Choose WCEUSBSH001
5. type "set 14 0" without the quotes to tell bootloader to boot the OS after reset.
6. type "task 28" to get your device formatted
7. type "task 0" to ask your device reboot
8. take the device out of the cradle, and manually reset it if it does not do that already.
good luck.
Sam
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after doing this you can flash any rom you want

Midget_1990 said:
imatrix said:
try this for whoever get stuck at boot screen or in bootloader mode
1. Download mtty v1.42 from http://files.pdamobiz.com/ROMs/XDA/mtty1.42.rar
2. Stop ActiveSync, by Task Manager (press Ctrl + Alt + Delete)
kill two processes rapimgr.exe and wcescomm.exe
3. put your device into Bootloader Mode by pressing Power + Record Button and Soft Reset.
4. Run mtty (from downloaded) Choose WCEUSBSH001
5. type "set 14 0" without the quotes to tell bootloader to boot the OS after reset.
6. type "task 28" to get your device formatted
7. type "task 0" to ask your device reboot
8. take the device out of the cradle, and manually reset it if it does not do that already.
good luck.
Sam
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after doing this you can flash any rom you want
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I dont know what to say to you except PERFECT.
Special thanks to you Midget_1990, imatrix and to all who tried to help.

EXTROM corrupted!! HELP ME!

Hi guys i just try to update from helmi 1.2 to 1.3. I did the steps as followed how i think i might has screw up some parts during the formating of the extrom....... Then how the device refuses to boot!!!! I have tried flash the extrom but i keep getting that extended rom error!! DAMN! Flashing of radio and CE rom is fine. only the extrom part!! Anyone can help me out please?!?!
Thanks a mil!

first u will need to put extend rom back to default value by following guide below and re-partition it again. finally, flash the new rom
try this for whoever get stuck at boot screen or in bootloader mode
1. Download mtty v1.42 from http://files.pdamobiz.com/ROMs/XDA/mtty1.42.rar
2. Stop ActiveSync, by Task Manager (press Ctrl + Alt + Delete)
kill two processes rapimgr.exe and wcescomm.exe
3. put your device into Bootloader Mode by pressing Power + Record Button and Soft Reset.
4. Run mtty (from downloaded) Choose WCEUSBSH001
5. type "set 14 0" without the quotes to tell bootloader to boot the OS after reset.
6. type "task 28" to get your device formatted
7. type "task 0" to ask your device reboot
8. take the device out of the cradle, and manually reset it if it does not do that already.
good luck.
imatrix

Hi imatrix!! thanks for your help!! really appreciate it. As expected it's the extrom that was giving the problem. I guess it got stuck at bootloader was because bootloader couldn't find any extrom files to load.
Thanks again

hi imatrix!
i've had the same problem, i thought i could never fix this error. Thank you very much imatrix for your expert help!!!

imatrix U R AN ANGEL!!!!!
From the deep south of Italy someone want offer u a great pizza!!!
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Upgrade problem

Hi there,
I have prolem with upgrading my BA.
I upgraded my BA to WM 2005. But this version isn't suitable for my. I would like to return to my previous ROM, or change ROM to HEMI...
I downloaded HEMI ROM and I started upgrade utility..
First i used BaUpgradeUt.exe. Error 100: Error model ID appeared..
Second I used MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe. After several seconds appeared window with information about uprading, so I pressed UPGRADE button.
After that ActiveSync shutted down, and window with information "checking information on your device" appeared...
My XDA still working, there is no information about upgrading.
Is there any tricks with WM2005.
Some advices?

mcs1 said:
After that ActiveSync shutted down, and window with information "checking information on your device" appeared...
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And your BA waits for bootmanager to talk to it from BA.
mcs1 said:
Some advices?
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Yes: to read readme.
In every rom package, (even in case of HELMI's on) there is Readme.txt file, that explains the procedure (in case of helmi's one: in folder with nbf file).
In short words:
0. Unhide and delete EXTROM by repartitioning flash rom (info on Wiki)
1. Unzip and copy nbf to correct folder
2. SetOperator (in case of MDA3 from ERA GSM it was T-MOB009, but you HAVE to check it in your machine)
3. Prepare EXTROM on SD card
4. Put BA in Bootmanager mode (Serial/USB massage on the screen)
5. Go on with BaUpgradeUt
6. Make Hard Reset WM5 way (power with reset is not enough)
When you do this carefull according to the Wiki and Readme, you should be happy user of WM5.

Thx. It's working now.
jakubd said:
mcs1 said:
After that ActiveSync shutted down, and window with information "checking information on your device" appeared...
Click to expand...
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And your BA waits for bootmanager to talk to it from BA.
mcs1 said:
Some advices?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes: to read readme.
In every rom package, (even in case of HELMI's on) there is Readme.txt file, that explains the procedure (in case of helmi's one: in folder with nbf file).
In short words:
0. Unhide and delete EXTROM by repartitioning flash rom (info on Wiki)
1. Unzip and copy nbf to correct folder
2. SetOperator (in case of MDA3 from ERA GSM it was T-MOB009, but you HAVE to check it in your machine)
3. Prepare EXTROM on SD card
4. Put BA in Bootmanager mode (Serial/USB massage on the screen)
5. Go on with BaUpgradeUt
6. Make Hard Reset WM5 way (power with reset is not enough)
When you do this carefull according to the Wiki and Readme, you should be happy user of WM5.
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Help with wm5 to wm6 upgrade!

I'm dizzy reading all the threads, information overload, so thought I'd just post the question! This is all a bit scary and I'm a complete newbie so take it easy on me... and feel free to dumb everything down as if I were a child.
I live in Australia and have a Treo 750 with Software Version TREO750-1.15-ROW. It seems to be unlocked but still has the Telstra splash screen, although I use it with Vodafone. I want to upgrade to WM6, and from what I can tell I should upgrade using Treo750_2_27_ROW_EN_DesktopUpdater.zip (which I now have). Is this right? Should I skip straight to the WM6.1 upgrade? Are these official/safe?
I am running 32-bit Vista with SP1 on my laptop.
I found instructions on Palm's site here:
http://www.palm.com/au/support/treo750/downloads/wm6update.html
Are those the instructions I should follow? Is that all I need to do? I keep seeing references to the "Bootloader Method" or the "SD Card Method" or the "Cheetah Method". What are all these alternative methods? Which are the advantages of each? I've seen various different instructions, some involving renaming some .nbh file, etc. What is the definitive method?
I saw the sticky thread for the "Cheetah Hard-SPL and SIM Unlocker"... what is that utility for? Are the instructions for it in the download itself? (I didn't see it in the thread) What are "cooked" ROMs and why should I be interested? Where can I find them?
Sorry for the newbieness... thanks so much to all who respond!

upgrade to WM6
If you want to upgrade to the official palm WM6 rom - then you use Treo750_2_27_ROW_EN_DesktopUpdater.zip and it is very simple - just connect the PPC to your computer . (as I know better to do it with a computer with WINXP and Activesync) , then run the program in the file Treo750_2_27_ROW_EN_DesktopUpdater.zip, and that's it.
If you want to upgrade to other roms like 6.1 normal or lite that you can find in this forum - then you need the other methods (there are two as I know - bootloader method or Kaizer..somthing method). Well, I wrote a guide how to upgrade to WM 6.1 lite using the bootloader method , I just sum up from this forum :
1. Download the rom file and the radio file:
Rom file from here : http://rapidshare.com/files/89355384/Treo750_WM6.1_WWE_Lite.rar
The radio file from here :
http://rapidshare.com/files/89336971/Treo750Radio1.54.07.00.rar
2. Download the Hard-SPL from here :
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Cheetah/Unlocker/CheetahUnlocker.rar
3. Format mini SD card 32 FAT , using a card reader or other way.
4. Do a HARD-SPL with the CheetahUnlocker file ( step 2) . Connect the Treo with your computer using Active sync(for WINXP) and run the file. Use those steps:
- Click the Step 1.... wait the progress bar reach 100%
- Now watch the Screen on your PDA it will launch 2 times verification...
- just click YES ...wait.. and YES again.
- after finisih... wait until the activesync go green again.....
- Now click the Step 2... wait the progress bar reach 100%
- Watch the screen again... same thing.. it will launch 2 times verification.
- click YES ...wait.. and YES again.
- After finish it your PC screen will shows some popup. ignore the reading bla bla bla... about ask u to click ok.
- Just wait untill your activesync go green again.
- Now click that bloody Popup OK button.
- The unlocker app will shows up again..
- Then you will see errors saying.. continue, cancel...etc... bla bla... just click continue.. error message.. iqnore it and then just finish it.
- Now your Cheetah should be on HARD SPL mode.
5. Install the ROM :
a. Using Winrar get the file from step 1. It's name should be : CHEEIMG.nbh
b. Copy the file to the root of the mini SD .
c. Do BOOTLOADER:
1. turn phone on
2. press the MEDIA button AND at the same time with the stylus the RESET PIN
the MEDIA button is the 3rd button on the left side of the phone, under the volume button
the RESET PIN is under the MINI SD card cover
3. keep holding the MEDIA button (left side of phone) until you get the 3 color screen
Wait until it finishes. Then Hard reset the device when prompted. To hard-reset, hold the End key while pressing the pin reset button. Answer “yes” to “Erase all data” prompt.
6. Flash the radio at the same way – just copy the radio file to the mini Sd – it should be the same name. (CHEEIMG.nbh ) .
7. Download the Palm SMS file from hereYou need it only for the lite version)
http://rapidshare.com/files/99335294/threadedsms.rar
or
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H63TXUP4
And install it as regular software (Copy to the mini SD and run it from the Treo.)
And that it all !!
Do not restore from your backup (You can restore only your data files).
Good luck !!

Update Successful
Thanks mate, I'm not brave enough to try the wm6.1 upgrade yet, but I did manage to upgrade to wm6 with the Updater, even though my device was "not supported". I ended up using the method where you edit the payloads.xml file before clicking 'start' so that it accepts your current device version, etc. I'm all good now.

libal said:
If you want to upgrade to the official palm WM6 rom - then you use Treo750_2_27_ROW_EN_DesktopUpdater.zip and it is very simple - just connect the PPC to your computer . (as I know better to do it with a computer with WINXP and Activesync) , then run the program in the file Treo750_2_27_ROW_EN_DesktopUpdater.zip, and that's it.
If you want to upgrade to other roms like 6.1 normal or lite that you can find in this forum - then you need the other methods (there are two as I know - bootloader method or Kaizer..somthing method). Well, I wrote a guide how to upgrade to WM 6.1 lite using the bootloader method , I just sum up from this forum :
1. Download the rom file and the radio file:
Rom file from here : http://rapidshare.com/files/89355384/Treo750_WM6.1_WWE_Lite.rar
The radio file from here :
http://rapidshare.com/files/89336971/Treo750Radio1.54.07.00.rar
2. Download the Hard-SPL from here :
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Cheetah/Unlocker/CheetahUnlocker.rar
3. Format mini SD card 32 FAT , using a card reader or other way.
4. Do a HARD-SPL with the CheetahUnlocker file ( step 2) . Connect the Treo with your computer using Active sync(for WINXP) and run the file. Use those steps:
- Click the Step 1.... wait the progress bar reach 100%
- Now watch the Screen on your PDA it will launch 2 times verification...
- just click YES ...wait.. and YES again.
- after finisih... wait until the activesync go green again.....
- Now click the Step 2... wait the progress bar reach 100%
- Watch the screen again... same thing.. it will launch 2 times verification.
- click YES ...wait.. and YES again.
- After finish it your PC screen will shows some popup. ignore the reading bla bla bla... about ask u to click ok.
- Just wait untill your activesync go green again.
- Now click that bloody Popup OK button.
- The unlocker app will shows up again..
- Then you will see errors saying.. continue, cancel...etc... bla bla... just click continue.. error message.. iqnore it and then just finish it.
- Now your Cheetah should be on HARD SPL mode.
5. Install the ROM :
a. Using Winrar get the file from step 1. It's name should be : CHEEIMG.nbh
b. Copy the file to the root of the mini SD .
c. Do BOOTLOADER:
1. turn phone on
2. press the MEDIA button AND at the same time with the stylus the RESET PIN
the MEDIA button is the 3rd button on the left side of the phone, under the volume button
the RESET PIN is under the MINI SD card cover
3. keep holding the MEDIA button (left side of phone) until you get the 3 color screen
Wait until it finishes. Then Hard reset the device when prompted. To hard-reset, hold the End key while pressing the pin reset button. Answer “yes” to “Erase all data” prompt.
6. Flash the radio at the same way – just copy the radio file to the mini Sd – it should be the same name. (CHEEIMG.nbh ) .
7. Download the Palm SMS file from hereYou need it only for the lite version)
http://rapidshare.com/files/99335294/threadedsms.rar
or
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H63TXUP4
And install it as regular software (Copy to the mini SD and run it from the Treo.)
And that it all !!
Do not restore from your backup (You can restore only your data files).
Good luck !!
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Did everything - step by step but nothing!
still the color screen with the word serial in the bottom!
What is wrong ???
Thanks in advance,
Nir

Got it!!
Turned out vista is displaying fat32 file system no matter what the file system is...
Nir

WM 6.1 Upgrade
Can anyone tell me where the AT&T Upgrade for the Treo 750 is to version 6.1. I have seen many different posts here that show many different links and different downloads with different loading instructions. Is there anything out there that is clear? I am willing to give it a try, but I am not exactly sure of which download to try. Thanks for your help.