does anyone know if this can be done? it sometimes pops up when i can enter text, and i always use the hardware keyboard, so i dont need the soft one. can you disable it in the registry?
never mind, i found a way of doing it. for those who want to know its like this:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip\AllowChange=1
Change the above value to AllowChange=0
Actually, this reg key seems to disable the soft keyboard altogether! (the icon is still there but tapping on it does not bring the kbd anymore). I'd like to have a way to have the soft kbd not show up automatically, but still work when I want to bring it up manually. Anyone?
I think you want one of these...
http://www.pdagold.com/software/detail.asp?s=155
This gives you an alternate soft-keyboard, which has no keys. So, select this one and there is nothing to pop up.
Be aware that this version is free, but there are later versions from the same author which have more features (just what you don't want) and you have to pay for.
I have not tried this on WM6, but it worked fine on earlier versions.
Actually forget that...
I just tried it on WM6, and although it does what it is supposed to do, it was impossible to then return to a normal soft-keyboard, so I had to uninstall and reset.
Oh well...
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Ok I have searched and not run across anything without reading every thread in here.
How do I change my default input method from keyboard to letter recognizer and MAKE it stick.
I change it i the input menu and reg edits but every time I soft reset it is back.
...we're on the same boat :?
Join the club!
I'm after the phone pad so I can still use the 8125/Wiz screen as a normal phone keypad at times and not have to whip out the stylus.
whatever you do, dont use registry wizard to set it... I white screened a week ago doing that, hard reset
hope to find a solution
Perhaps this:
HKCU\ControlPanel\SIP
DefaultIM {42429667-.... or one of the others {42429690- {42429691-
Look in the neighborhoud HKCR\CLSID\{424296...... for the others.
Cheers
edit: In case it wasn't clear you need to fill in the whole CLSID in the DefaultIM string value. So {42429667- including the } at the end.
It should work after a soft reset (gone with a hard reset)
Any Solutions to this yet?
Thanks
Jules
I'm joining the club too
I'm on a Charmer, I used to able to change the Letter Reg SIP as default before I upgraded my ROM. I thought I'm the only one.
i'm triing to change the reg value with total commander and with wizard reg but after a restart the phone hang on white screen... someone can help me?
i want to use nullkb as default probably is not possible?
jmel said:
whatever you do, dont use registry wizard to set it... I white screened a week ago doing that, hard reset
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hrm.....
dromico said:
i'm triing to change the reg value with total commander and with wizard reg but after a restart the phone hang on white screen... someone can help me?
i want to use nullkb as default probably is not possible?
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cant say i didnt warn you?
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cant say i didnt warn you?
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yes but i make a hard reset after the first try (manually change registry with tcmd) and i try in another way...white screen in every try
lost in translation...
I was saying that if you TRY to use registry wizard to set it, you will get a white screen, and be left having to HARD RESET....
Not the best solution, but perhaps you could use my program SwitchSip to change the SIP on every soft reset. I don't know if it'll stick though, I've never tried...
V
http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=sipswitch
thanks i try with your program, i never search the forum enough if i don't found your post.
i don't know why there is no possiblity to change default IM in the WM configuration.
Everything is listed here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweaks_Other "Set default SIP"
tweakradje said:
Everything is listed here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweaks_Other "Set default SIP"
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I think we've all tried the method. Read the posts above carefully.
Just as a problem recap: the default SIP reghack no longer works on AKU2 ROMS. The kbd default occurs after a soft reset no matter what you have changed the registry value to.
I'm working on this one too. I coded up a program that quickly set the SIP to block recognizer and exited figuring I could just add it to the startup programs folder to switch over after a soft reset.
However, while this program works just great normally, it doesn't change the SIP when run at startup. I am working on why this is, currently. So far I've determined that my program is able to find the block recognizer SIP so the SIP dll is loaded. Tomorrow I may get a few more minutes to work on it. I'll code my program to check to see if it correctly set the SIP to block recognizer and re-attempt to change until it's successful. I'm guessing that this will have no effect on the issue since my current working theory is that the kbd default is set sometime after the startup programs run.
Guys, I don't know whether my app worked or not, but this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=317635#317635
seems to suggest it did. I don't have a wizard to test it on though
V
@vijay555:
I've got my little app set up on my today screen so I can just tap it quickly after everything's loaded to change my sip but it won't work if I drop it into my startup folder.
Perhaps this is what the poster you refer to is doing? Does your program check the default SIP using SipGetCurrentIM after you switch to see if the operation worked? Or do you just check for an error code after calling SipSetCurrentIM. Me, I'm just checking for an error currently and am not getting one.
Sleuth255: I really can't remember how I did it, I wrote it in c++ before I could program in c++, somehow. I'm on a promise to rewrite it sometime, and turn it into VJSipSwitch, for now it's merely a bastard child.
However, despite this, it's also designed to be configured as a shortcut to be launched from a hardware key or shortcut... if it becomes an issue, I'll look over the code again.
V
Is anyone having the problem where they pick another input type (i.e. PCM Keyboard, TouchPal) and it defaults back to the WM Keyboard? I like to use a soft keyboard for "one-handed" use sometimes. Anyone know of a workaround or fix?
Do a search for SIP changer.cab It allows you to set your default keyboard and it will restore it after a soft reset.
RemE said:
Do a search for SIP changer.cab It allows you to set your default keyboard and it will restore it after a soft reset.
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I downloaded the SIPChange program and it didn't seem to help. When I reboot, it still comes up with the MS Keyboard. When I select another input method like PCM Keyboard or TouchPal, it goes back to keyboard. Any ideas? This is getting extremely frustrating.
I found with sip changer, you need to run it and make the selection there and confirm it with the button in the middle of the screen, not the OK button in the top right.
If that doesn't help, I'm at a loss as it works fine for me.
If I understand the OP correctly, it isn't simply an issue of what defaults, it's an issue of being able to select the 3rd party keyboard, period. I have the same problem with ToughPal... I install touchpal, it works for a while, then after a while it can't be selected. It's in the pop-up list to select, but selecting it results in the standard keybard. I uninstalled, re-installed, and it worked for a while, and now it's back to not working.
SIP Change also addresses the issue of the 3rd party keyboards not showing up correctly. I'd tried PocketCM keyboard and it had failed, but SIP Change fixed that once I'd executed it correctly.
RemE said:
I found with sip changer, you need to run it and make the selection there and confirm it with the button in the middle of the screen, not the OK button in the top right.
If that doesn't help, I'm at a loss as it works fine for me.
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I tried a couple of things as well. One of them was to change the setting to 5 seconds first. That didn't work. Once I changed it back to 10 seconds, it worked fine on this reboot. Will post back here if I run into problems again. Also, I only tested it with PCM Keyboard and not TouchPal.
Argh! its one of those annoyances that pisses me off lol.
Every time I enter a text field screen keyboard pops up covering half of the screen.
How do I stop it? I want it to open only when I click on it.
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Out of curiosity, are you using the standard keyboard or Pocket CM, resco ect?
Standard, the one that comes with Dutty's v4. It has a Touch skin, but I think it's standard keyboard.
If there's an answer somewhere - please point me in the right direction.. I searched and didn't find anything (it's kinda hard to phrase this one)
Sorry. Don’t have any answers for you. I was asking just to keejp note just in case a similar problem occurred with my Kaiser. I have an original non flashed rom by the way, so it probably won’t be a problem with me.
246810 said:
Sorry. Don’t have any answers for you. I was asking just to keejp note just in case a similar problem occurred with my Kaiser. I have an original non flashed rom by the way, so it probably won’t be a problem with me.
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Yes you will.
It's not a bug, it's a feature.. and it comes standard with every ROM I've seen (WM5+). Most people won't have a problem with it, but if I type something, I use hardware keyboard.. so on-screen keyboard pop-up is useless for me.
ummm... well it hasn't been a problem with any of the two MDA touch's, MDA vario II, or two MDA Vario III's I've had in the last few months... Fingers crossed it'll stay that way....
I would also like to see a solution
I vaguely remember a blank-sip or none-sip program exactly for this purpose. You could make it the default. Maybe PHM made it, try searching on the web.
I like the option of using the SIP sometimes, but most of the time I don't want it. It seems like once you use it once, it thinks you want it all the time, until you use the hardware keyboard again. How hard would it be to just let me click on it when I want it. Jeez!
a blank SIP is an option in this free program: http://www.phm.lu/products/PocketPC/PowerToys/
Blank SIP is a solution, but not a very good one. When I do want to use screen keyboard, I'd have to snipe that little arrow to open SIP selection, then find what I want and click it. Wait for it to load...
It'd be easier if it just wouldn't pop-up when cursor is in the text field. There's probably a setting somewhere..
Try this....
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Blank SIP is a solution, but not a very good one. When I do want to use screen keyboard, I'd have to snipe that little arrow to open SIP selection, then find what I want and click it. Wait for it to load...
It'd be easier if it just wouldn't pop-up when cursor is in the text field. There's probably a setting somewhere..
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Try these registry settings that worked for me. When I used to open a new document with ms word or go to the address bar in PIE the sip used to pop up but not after applying these settings. After import .reg file or changing them manually you will need to soft-reset.
It now only pops up when i select rename file in resco explorer. But I can live with that.
Hope this helps...
diigibio (diigimatrix)
Some programs call it automatically. It's the way they're coded. I would think there wouldn't be a way to suppress the on-screen keyboard without disabling it entirely.
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Some programs call it automatically. It's the way they're coded. I would think there wouldn't be a way to suppress the on-screen keyboard without disabling it entirely.
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The only other way to do this is to go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip and change "AllowChange" from 1 to 0 and then soft-reset. However as you say this will disable it fullstop. So the only way you could enter info is either at the dialer (to call someone) or by using the slide out keyboard. To re-activate change the 0 back to a 1 at the above registry key.
diigibio
Thought I move the thread to here to see if I will get more help:
Have had the phone for a few weeks and learning lots. All of sudden yesterday when trying to make a calendar entry, the full QWERTY, compact QWERTY, and phone pad can no longer be used to enter text. It's stuck on numeric mode. Tapping the "abc" key on the bottom of the full QWERTY keyboard doesn't change anything. Can still use transcriber and full keyboard for now. BUt when switched to Note program, all entry methods work. Have not installed any new programs lately (besides a few games and new calculator). Have been using S2U2 and Diamond tweaks to help with a few other problems...Help please since this is now my primary calendar and runs my life so need to have this working again!!
I"m using the GSM version with the latest ROM version. The problem also seems to be "periodic" in the sense that everytime I change mode of text entry to something else and back to QWERTY, it lets me enter text, but the moment I change it to numerics, I can't go back unless I change mode of entry again.....Argh.....
I suffer from a similar problem sometimes. Sometimes the keyboard doesn't open at all. I can't type anything. Perhaps it's because of TouchPal, dunno. Gotta reboot the device then ...
Sorry for abusing your thread, but it's a similar problem.7
Have you performed a soft-reset? Did it change anything or have you been suffering from the same problem ... ? Actually a stupid question
Done a soft reset once, and didn't change anything. Like I said it has a mind of its own...when I change the mode of text entry to full keyboard, everything works perfectly so I've been defaulting to that...then when I change from full keyboard to QWERTY, it would bring back the alphabet screen..but the moment I tap the 123 button to change to numeric pad to enter something, I CANNOT go back....I'm unwilling to hard reset for a problem that I have a "work around" on .....hence the post to see if others have similar problem, and HOW THE HECK did it happen???
ya i'm also facing the same problem, but now my COMPACT QWERTY keyboard stopped working completely, it was only taking no's, please suggest solution for this
Thanks in advance
same problem here. a complete reset to factory defaults was the only solution to that problem.
full querty worked normally, but without T9.
compact and phone pad numbers only, equal if i selected ABC or 123. Symbols worked normally
Somehow I managed to change the keyboard look, but I don't have a clue how to get back to the letters. So if someone could give me a hint, I appreciate it.
hey, looks like its EZ input from HTC, just uninstall it, or very simple ckick in the middle bottom softkey and choose a different input method from dropdown menu, or install a different virtual keyboard, i recommend FingerKeyboard...
oh, just remembered, you can also change input setting from /settings/personal/input..
I already tried that, there are only two keyboards availably, but opn the other one also no possibility to change it. It seems I need to install a different one. Will try FingerKeyboard and report.
No that wasn't the solution. I re-installed WM 6.5 once again (had to although), but now the same. It changes, when I use the calendar in e.g. my contacts to create a birthday reminder. The display at the bottom in the middle is also not the usual one.
may be
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\ezsip\CurrentSIP\
"D00" --> "A00"
That didn't worked also. I figured out that it happens when I switch to an option with time-settiings like in the calender. And then I can't switch back.
That is really a pity since I found a really good 6.5-ROM fitting to my.
Also changing the keyboard to another installesd one like "FingerKeyboard" doesn't work, there also is the Num-pad listed.
So any other suggestions? Beside "Change the ROM"