Argh! its one of those annoyances that pisses me off lol.
Every time I enter a text field screen keyboard pops up covering half of the screen.
How do I stop it? I want it to open only when I click on it.
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Out of curiosity, are you using the standard keyboard or Pocket CM, resco ect?
Standard, the one that comes with Dutty's v4. It has a Touch skin, but I think it's standard keyboard.
If there's an answer somewhere - please point me in the right direction.. I searched and didn't find anything (it's kinda hard to phrase this one)
Sorry. Don’t have any answers for you. I was asking just to keejp note just in case a similar problem occurred with my Kaiser. I have an original non flashed rom by the way, so it probably won’t be a problem with me.
246810 said:
Sorry. Don’t have any answers for you. I was asking just to keejp note just in case a similar problem occurred with my Kaiser. I have an original non flashed rom by the way, so it probably won’t be a problem with me.
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Yes you will.
It's not a bug, it's a feature.. and it comes standard with every ROM I've seen (WM5+). Most people won't have a problem with it, but if I type something, I use hardware keyboard.. so on-screen keyboard pop-up is useless for me.
ummm... well it hasn't been a problem with any of the two MDA touch's, MDA vario II, or two MDA Vario III's I've had in the last few months... Fingers crossed it'll stay that way....
I would also like to see a solution
I vaguely remember a blank-sip or none-sip program exactly for this purpose. You could make it the default. Maybe PHM made it, try searching on the web.
I like the option of using the SIP sometimes, but most of the time I don't want it. It seems like once you use it once, it thinks you want it all the time, until you use the hardware keyboard again. How hard would it be to just let me click on it when I want it. Jeez!
a blank SIP is an option in this free program: http://www.phm.lu/products/PocketPC/PowerToys/
Blank SIP is a solution, but not a very good one. When I do want to use screen keyboard, I'd have to snipe that little arrow to open SIP selection, then find what I want and click it. Wait for it to load...
It'd be easier if it just wouldn't pop-up when cursor is in the text field. There's probably a setting somewhere..
Try this....
DarkDvr said:
Blank SIP is a solution, but not a very good one. When I do want to use screen keyboard, I'd have to snipe that little arrow to open SIP selection, then find what I want and click it. Wait for it to load...
It'd be easier if it just wouldn't pop-up when cursor is in the text field. There's probably a setting somewhere..
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Try these registry settings that worked for me. When I used to open a new document with ms word or go to the address bar in PIE the sip used to pop up but not after applying these settings. After import .reg file or changing them manually you will need to soft-reset.
It now only pops up when i select rename file in resco explorer. But I can live with that.
Hope this helps...
diigibio (diigimatrix)
Some programs call it automatically. It's the way they're coded. I would think there wouldn't be a way to suppress the on-screen keyboard without disabling it entirely.
ugoff said:
Some programs call it automatically. It's the way they're coded. I would think there wouldn't be a way to suppress the on-screen keyboard without disabling it entirely.
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The only other way to do this is to go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip and change "AllowChange" from 1 to 0 and then soft-reset. However as you say this will disable it fullstop. So the only way you could enter info is either at the dialer (to call someone) or by using the slide out keyboard. To re-activate change the 0 back to a 1 at the above registry key.
diigibio
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Hey Guys,
Few Keyboard questions:
1) How do you set PCM Keyboard as a default keyboard to pop up.
2) How do you disable PCM Keyboard from poping up when you have the Kaiser in the slid open position (actual keyboard exposed)?
Thanks
Dmitriy
1-Search for sipchanger.cab, it allows setting the default keyboard, even thru a soft reset.
2-don't know
#2- you have to turn ClearType off in landscape mode. You probably did a tweak that turned that on.
Save you the trouble of searching. I use PocketCM Keyboard too and when i start typing on the qwerty keyboard, PocketCM just hides away on it's own.
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#2- you have to turn ClearType off in landscape mode. You probably did a tweak that turned that on.
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I do have it off. I use KaiserTweak and its off by Default
Am I logical when I feel that there is almost no need to install a whole program to set for example PocketCM as my default CM when just tapping PCM on the popup menu is enough, at least till the next restart.
Installing another program is just something I have to worry about that may need either updating, takes up memory, may get corrupt, adds weight.
Scann69 said:
Save you the trouble of searching. I use PocketCM Keyboard too and when i start typing on the qwerty keyboard, PocketCM just hides away on it's own.
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Thanks works great
CorruptedSanity said:
Am I logical when I feel that there is almost no need to install a whole program to set for example PocketCM as my default CM when just tapping PCM on the popup menu is enough, at least till the next restart.
Installing another program is just something I have to worry about that may need either updating, takes up memory, may get corrupt, adds weight.
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Nope, your logic is sound. I weigh the size of the app's memory footprint and the benifit it provides. Sip Changer is tiny and seems invisible and does a great job of keeping the keyboard you want always correct even after a reset. So I merrily add these great little apps till I kill the phone, then start over But in reality I've got a first run TyTN II and have yet to need a hard reset and I have several "must have" apps running without issue.
It's a Pocket PC and as such is made to be tweaked and far as I know, this is a forum of tweakers for tweakers.
Okay ladies and gents, I have searched and searched and can't seem to find my answer. I am sure one of you smart lads can give me a response in 4 seconds.
The keyboard and keypad work great on my Tilt but I have two issues:
1) I've noticed the screen shots include a tool bar above the keyboard with options for BOLD, UNDERLINED text, ect. I do not have that. What can I do?
2) My xt9 works fine but if I want to create a new text msg, the drop box of contacts no longer appears. This is quite hard to explain but before xt9, if I inputted the letter "J," a drop box of about 7-8 contacts will show up to with names starting with J; sort of like a quick list. The more letters I inputted, the more specific of results the drop box displays. Even if I am in ABC mode, this feature is no more. Would I have to kill Xt9 via registry to revive this feature?
Thanks in advance.
richabi said:
2) My xt9 works fine but if I want to create a new text msg, the drop box of contacts no longer appears. This is quite hard to explain but before xt9, if I inputted the letter "J," a drop box of about 7-8 contacts will show up to with names starting with J; sort of like a quick list. The more letters I inputted, the more specific of results the drop box displays. Even if I am in ABC mode, this feature is no more. Would I have to kill Xt9 via registry to revive this feature?
Thanks in advance.
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I too have this similar issue
I am unable to type anything in the to: field cause of Xt9
but after uninstalling of the touch keyboard it works again
yeah, I figured it is software conflict with xt9 - you can have one or the other kinda thing. I think I rather have the xT9 than the quick list. I will just have to press one extra key (return) for every contact included.
corleno said:
I too have this similar issue
I am unable to type anything in the to: field cause of Xt9
but after uninstalling of the touch keyboard it works again
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Try using the diamond keyboard, it solve the problem.
pmtan666 said:
Try using the diamond keyboard, it solve the problem.
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thanks that did the trick !!!
the only annoying feature
NO SPACE after clicking a predicted word !! grrrr
anyway to overcome that ?
Please do not throw rocks at me. I tried searching in the forum and in google. Not sure if I'm wording it correctly. But anyway, when I'm using the QWERTY keyboard I'm having trouble w/ typing. I usually have to go by to some words and seperate them. I don't know if it's the speed of the keystroke that I should be worrying about or using more force pressing each key.
I hope I make sense.
flybitty said:
Please do not throw rocks at me. I tried searching in the forum and in google. Not sure if I'm wording it correctly. But anyway, when I'm using the QWERTY keyboard I'm having trouble w/ typing. I usually have to go by to some words and seperate them. I don't know if it's the speed of the keystroke that I should be worrying about or using more force pressing each key.
I hope I make sense.
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Are you using a stock or cooked ROM? Try disabling the word suggest and XT9 (if your ROM supports it). I still have the occasional issue with misplaced spaces or double letters, but it's very minor.
NotATreoFan said:
Are you using a stock or cooked ROM? Try disabling the word suggest and XT9 (if your ROM supports it). I still have the occasional issue with misplaced spaces or double letters, but it's very minor.
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I'm using a cooked ROM. It is a minor problem, but sometimes I don't like going back and fixing things. =/
I have a similar problem on my keyboard. The only complaint I have is that I use a clip on my Kaiser. They should have put the space bar a little bit higher because when I type I don't space so I end up writing like this..
Howw as yourd ay . Gets annoying because I have to go back and space and delete.
My major problem is, and i'll try to explain as best as I could.
On your PC keyboard, if you press the INSERT key and you press space it'll delete any words after. When I'm typing on my TILT i go to backspace and it won't let me. It could be in IE, WORD, text messaging etc. I have to highlight what I want to delete and then press the delete button. Sometimes if i'm typing and lets say I type "Educated" but I missed the "C". If I tap in the middle with stylus and try to type in the "C" it'll delete my "A","T", depending on how many times I press a button on my keyboard. Very annoying. Any fix.
gqstatus0685 said:
Howw as yourd ay . Gets annoying because I have to go back and space and delete.
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Same thing with mine, cooked also.
gqstatus0685 said:
I have a similar problem on my keyboard. The only complaint I have is that I use a clip on my Kaiser. They should have put the space bar a little bit higher because when I type I don't space so I end up writing like this..
Howw as yourd ay . Gets annoying because I have to go back and space and delete.
My major problem is, and i'll try to explain as best as I could.
On your PC keyboard, if you press the INSERT key and you press space it'll delete any words after. When I'm typing on my TILT i go to backspace and it won't let me. It could be in IE, WORD, text messaging etc. I have to highlight what I want to delete and then press the delete button. Sometimes if i'm typing and lets say I type "Educated" but I missed the "C". If I tap in the middle with stylus and try to type in the "C" it'll delete my "A","T", depending on how many times I press a button on my keyboard. Very annoying. Any fix.
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Same EXACT issue. Thought I was retarded. Glad to hear that others are having the same issue.
Anyone have a a fix for this? It is EXTREMELY annoying. I'm using Dutty's April 29th 6.1 ROM.
Marc
gqstatus0685 said:
I have a similar problem on my keyboard. The only complaint I have is that I use a clip on my Kaiser. They should have put the space bar a little bit higher because when I type I don't space so I end up writing like this..
Howw as yourd ay . Gets annoying because I have to go back and space and delete.
My major problem is, and i'll try to explain as best as I could.
On your PC keyboard, if you press the INSERT key and you press space it'll delete any words after. When I'm typing on my TILT i go to backspace and it won't let me. It could be in IE, WORD, text messaging etc. I have to highlight what I want to delete and then press the delete button. Sometimes if i'm typing and lets say I type "Educated" but I missed the "C". If I tap in the middle with stylus and try to type in the "C" it'll delete my "A","T", depending on how many times I press a button on my keyboard. Very annoying. Any fix.
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OH WOW! i dont feel alone in this world! and i'm not the only one that think typing this: "Howw as yourd ay . Gets annoying because I have to go back and space and delete." Is an annoyance!!
Ok. How do we get this fixed? LOL.
It's dutty's rom. has a little issue with it, i've noticed it also.
quiksilv3r said:
It's dutty's rom. has a little issue with it, i've noticed it also.
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Its not just dutty's rom, most of the latest builds have this issue. I however, am not experiencing this any longer.
quiksilv3r said:
It's dutty's rom. has a little issue with it, i've noticed it also.
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Are you sure? Have you tried other ROM's and not experieced this "phenomenom"? If so, what other ROM's have you tried?
mviana said:
Are you sure? Have you tried other ROM's and not experieced this "phenomenom"? If so, what other ROM's have you tried?
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I started having that issue sometime after mid-april. However, over the past few days I've been trying new roms out and I noticed that Laurentius26 May 19th rom and shogunmark May 23 deathv2 beta release hasn't had this issue. Therefore, I am making the assumption that it was either caused by a program i was installing, which I am not installing anymore (However, since others have this issue I cannot base my assumption on an application I was installing), or the problem is arising because of the builds that are/were being used.
I have tried countless roms.
I just noticed that the two roms I mentioned above both use At&t 19213 build
Btw LOL @ notatreofan being all nice and everything. Lol. Put a picture of a female as your avatar if you are going to create a "redundant thread". Lol not that this is redundant. JK about that avatar thing also.
Anyway, I've had Schaps 4.31 for a while first ROM i flashed been happy with it. I have to search for those two roms and see what they include. It bugs me because I have to type slow ass hell just to make sure it's accurate. I master typing while not looking and driving at the same time. It's a buzzkill. Help anyone!
I have been having the same issue in my Tilt. Using the Apr 29th dutty rom, and upgrading to the latest may 22nd rom seemed to have helped it a great bit. although still not gone completely. And all programs that were installed on the 29th rom and the 22nd rom are the same set. So it does seem to be a rom / radio issue.
The problems with slow keystrokes is usually in ROMS that have a XT9 keypad installed, such as one of dutty's hybrid ROMs or any with the new Diamond keyboard package. If you download and install the "disable xt9" cab that is around here on some ftps and such, it will solve the problem.
Thanks mZimm. Here's the link for anyone else who is having this problem.
http://www.4shared.com/file/36879118/89dc721f/duttythroy_Disable_xt9.html?dirPwdVerified=36a07e05
Marc
mviana said:
Thanks mZimm. Here's the link for anyone else who is having this problem.
http://www.4shared.com/file/36879118/89dc721f/duttythroy_Disable_xt9.html?dirPwdVerified=36a07e05
Marc
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I've always had XT9 disabled and still confronted this problem when using particular roms. Does that cab do the trick mviana?
redbandana said:
I've always had XT9 disabled and still confronted this problem when using particular roms. Does that cab do the trick mviana?
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rebandana,
That cab worked well for me. I just typed a little in Word Mobile and sent a text message. I'll report back a little later if you'd like.
Off topic, how is that Shogunmark ROM working out for you?
thanks everyone for you help & advice! trying out the cab now. * crossing fingers * hope this works!
Is there a way to do this so i can use T9 on the Diamond Keypad but disable T9 on hardware keyboard so i don't get the space lag?
Cheers
Drew
New version at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2622590&postcount=45
Old version
I'm make a small program, which change current SIP when stylus out of the case and in the case.
Just unzip, and run program. Run again, and you can stop background process.
Settings in registry:
key HKCU\Software\HtcExtFun
value StylusInSipName - string name of SIP when stylus in the case
value StylusOutSipName - string name of SIP when stylus out of the case
example of reg settings (included in attached archive):
Code:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HtcExtFun]
"StylusOutSipName"="Keyboard - VGAKEY"
"StylusInSipName"="TouchPal"
Sorry I messed up im such an idiot!
And would it be possible to change the diamond in some kind of explosive device if the stylus is pulled out and in five times in less than three seconds ?
Hmmm James Bond on TV tonight, sorry for that.
The real question was : what do you call SIP : is it any program ? Does it interfere with the "notes" opening during a call ?
SIP = "Soft Input Panel"
It's the method of inputting text on a ppc, such as keyboard, transcriber etc...
Thanks a lot exidler, I've been missing this feature
My question is will it interfere/conflict with a SmartSIP application? I'm not in the mood for a Hard Reset just now due to conflicting SIPs...
Hello,
Nice idea but when I execute the HtcExtFun.exe I received this message :
"can't initialize SIP CLSIDs for stylus status"
My Rom is HTC_FRA_1.93.406.1
Thank's for you help
ralfred said:
Hello,
Nice idea but when I execute the HtcExtFun.exe I received this message :
"can't initialize SIP CLSIDs for stylus status"
My Rom is HTC_FRA_1.93.406.1
Thank's for you help
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Just change the registry keys to whatever SIPs you use. You probably don't even have a "Keyboard - VGAKEY" installed.
2ALL: Also be sure to input localized names for SIPs into reg keys (for non-WWE ROMs). Good luck!
Btw, it works just fine with SmartSIP...
Good job, exidler! Thank you. It's just what I wanted. Will probably uninstall SmartSIP now...
At begining of topic, asking about runing Notes when stylus pulled out.
My question: may be add feature to run something when stylus pulled out? Not only when call in progress.
exidler said:
At begining of topic, asking about runing Notes when stylus pulled out.
My question: may be add feature to run something when stylus pulled out? Not only when call in progress.
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Would be a nice addition, but I'd prefer it to be user-configurable (on/off), with a list of exceptions. So each time I'm about to rename a file it won't open Notes or whatever.
help stylus
for open the program???
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HtcExtFun]
"StylusOutSipName"="Keyboard - VGAKEY"
"StylusInSipName"="TouchPal"
hello graziano
WOW Fantastic app thanks
I Repackaged it in a cab file that adds the reg key to change between Compact QWERTY and Keyboard. Also drops a shortcut under
Start Menu>Programs
Jules
Video of the software here. I think its great, but could obviously do with a configuration panel and having a shortcut dropped into \windows\startup.
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=739
Surur
ZaJules said:
I Repackaged it in a cab file that adds the reg key to change between Compact QWERTY and Keyboard. Also drops a shortcut under
Start Menu>Programs
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Really nice, but the shortcut doesn't work.
peterbonge said:
Really nice, but the shortcut doesn't work.
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It only worked for me after a soft reset, and then starting the app once.
Surur
To have it start at every boot up, paste the app in /Windows/StartUp
Very convenient app, they should have implemented this in the original ROM .
Awesome!...
It worked after I add ZaJules's Reg file.
But I want to be able to switch between:
Compact QWERTY and Fitaly by textware.
I edited the reg location (in windows registry) from keyboard to fitaly
now removing/replacing stylus doesn't do anything...
cheers, stevo.
[edit] Maybe it's called something else in the registry...
[edit] fixed it.
I had "Keyboard Qwerty" insteat of "Keyboard QWERTY", so it IS CAP specific!.
cheers, swesome.... This bl00dy phone just gets better and better every day...!
Updated the cab to include the automated startup
GREAT small application, very handy indeed.
re not go
error on startup
saluti dvdfilm
when using the exidler....cab I got an error while starting up. It seems the application is missing a reference. When I start it manually I get an error about missing reference in registry.
I use original Rom 1.93GER
Hey guys, recently joined this forum since i got my first wm device, the SE X1
I searched the forum trying to find a way to stop the virtual keyboard from popping upp as soon as I select an input box in the opera web browser. So I was hoping you guys could help me.
oh btw, atm - I suck on wm, but Im very keen on learning so if you have any newbie tips for me that would be great too.
thanks,
Agaas
Agaas said:
Hey guys, recently joined this forum since i got my first wm device, the SE X1
I searched the forum trying to find a way to stop the virtual keyboard from popping upp as soon as I select an input box in the opera web browser. So I was hoping you guys could help me.
oh btw, atm - I suck on wm, but Im very keen on learning so if you have any newbie tips for me that would be great too.
thanks,
Agaas
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Can't answer ur question, but am gonna ask another - if you don't mind... "does the on-screen keyboard come up when the hardware keyboard is opened too?"
AFAIK this is a persistent problem, but there is a null keyboard without any keys which wont get in your way when it pops up.
http://freewareppc.com/utilities/nullkeyboard.shtml
Surur
yes, thats the problem! it does so when its open. wouldnt mind if it did when closes
thanks for the link to the null keyboard, unfortunatly it didnt work. Ille see if I cant find another one
okey, I tried "Phm null keyboard", it worked but made the icon flick and looked strange so I removed it
Doesn't bother me just hit a button on the hardware keyboard and it dissapears
someone else who has a tip?
Same problem since years and generations of WM
I don't recognize it anymore. One tab on the hardware-keyboard and it is off again.
Pls. This can't be difficult to fix for a smart person.
The easiest fix currently known has already been stated.
Place the cursor into a text box, and allow the on-screen keyboard to pop up. Then slide the phone open and expose the hardware keyboard. Next hit the space key, and then slide the phone closed.
Problem solved until you bring the on-screen keyboard up again.
NotATreoFan said:
The easiest fix currently known has already been stated.
Place the cursor into a text box, and allow the on-screen keyboard to pop up. Then slide the phone open and expose the hardware keyboard. Next hit the space key, and then slide the phone closed.
Problem solved until you bring the on-screen keyboard up again.
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Yes ofcourse but it would be nice to somehow disable it from popping up automaticly
I don't see the big problem about this issue. Does the keyboard stay up on the Xperia? I know on my device all I do is hit the text box and start typing on the hardware keyboard and the virtual disappears as soon as I hit the first key.
Kloc said:
I don't see the big problem about this issue. Does the keyboard stay up on the Xperia? I know on my device all I do is hit the text box and start typing on the hardware keyboard and the virtual disappears as soon as I hit the first key.
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That's correct it does disappear on the X1.
The symbol key on the keyboard doesnt work in Opera... the on screen symbol menu wont come up
Im sure i saw a registry hack for this problem. does anuone have any more info#?
anyone know of a registry hack yet? This keyboard popping up is getting on my nerves now
here's a reg tweak
http://neato4u.wordpress.com/2009/07/22/disable-the-virtual-keyboard-on-windows-mobile/
it does bother me, but as soon as i press a key on the keyboard it goes away... i've come to live with it. i use skyfire most the time anyways
neato4u said:
here's a reg tweak
http://neato4u.wordpress.com/2009/07/22/disable-the-virtual-keyboard-on-windows-mobile/
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I tried that and could get no virtual keyboard to come up even when I wanted one. Had to change the value back again.