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HTC Touch Keypad

When I install the keypad I get something really weird and unwanted when I want to write a new text message.
Without the keyboard installed I can write the first couple of letters of a contact and it will give me a list of contacts that match that set of letters. however once the touch keyboard is installed I just get its own autocomplete kick in... even when I submit the letters the contact popup doesn't come up?
Does anyone know a way of keeping the contact functionality and the keyboard at the same time?
I've tried disabling XT9 reg file in one of duttys threads, still no joy

Yeah the exact same thing happened on mine and unfortunatley i couldnt find a solution either and eneded up removing it from the device, this being a real shame cause it was very useful specially for texting one handed.
A part solution is to send new text, use touch keyboard to enter first couple letters like you would before then menu / check names it should then bring up a list of ones that partially match, bit long winded though.
Anyone else found a solution to this?

Anyone found a solution to this? I'd love to be able to use the htc pad...!
can anyone recommend a better input thing that will preserve the mentioned function?

I just press the 'to ' text yo the left and use the list , tis fairly fast -- but now I must go as my battery is almost dead!

Its quicker to just to press a letter
Can't anyone think of a fix!!?
Can I just use the sip file or something from the cab?

I've found a cab to disable the XT9 and it means that you can press a letter and it will come up with contacts matching the letter... however it messes up the touch keypad and board.. they both just display all the letters and numbers. :/

so, where is the cab file then ?

Hmmm I think i saw the cab file somewhere

Stop screen keyboard from opening automatically

Argh! its one of those annoyances that pisses me off lol.
Every time I enter a text field screen keyboard pops up covering half of the screen.
How do I stop it? I want it to open only when I click on it.

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Out of curiosity, are you using the standard keyboard or Pocket CM, resco ect?

Standard, the one that comes with Dutty's v4. It has a Touch skin, but I think it's standard keyboard.
If there's an answer somewhere - please point me in the right direction.. I searched and didn't find anything (it's kinda hard to phrase this one)

Sorry. Don’t have any answers for you. I was asking just to keejp note just in case a similar problem occurred with my Kaiser. I have an original non flashed rom by the way, so it probably won’t be a problem with me.

246810 said:
Sorry. Don’t have any answers for you. I was asking just to keejp note just in case a similar problem occurred with my Kaiser. I have an original non flashed rom by the way, so it probably won’t be a problem with me.
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Yes you will.
It's not a bug, it's a feature.. and it comes standard with every ROM I've seen (WM5+). Most people won't have a problem with it, but if I type something, I use hardware keyboard.. so on-screen keyboard pop-up is useless for me.

ummm... well it hasn't been a problem with any of the two MDA touch's, MDA vario II, or two MDA Vario III's I've had in the last few months... Fingers crossed it'll stay that way....

I would also like to see a solution

I vaguely remember a blank-sip or none-sip program exactly for this purpose. You could make it the default. Maybe PHM made it, try searching on the web.

I like the option of using the SIP sometimes, but most of the time I don't want it. It seems like once you use it once, it thinks you want it all the time, until you use the hardware keyboard again. How hard would it be to just let me click on it when I want it. Jeez!

a blank SIP is an option in this free program: http://www.phm.lu/products/PocketPC/PowerToys/

Blank SIP is a solution, but not a very good one. When I do want to use screen keyboard, I'd have to snipe that little arrow to open SIP selection, then find what I want and click it. Wait for it to load...
It'd be easier if it just wouldn't pop-up when cursor is in the text field. There's probably a setting somewhere..

Try this....
DarkDvr said:
Blank SIP is a solution, but not a very good one. When I do want to use screen keyboard, I'd have to snipe that little arrow to open SIP selection, then find what I want and click it. Wait for it to load...
It'd be easier if it just wouldn't pop-up when cursor is in the text field. There's probably a setting somewhere..
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Try these registry settings that worked for me. When I used to open a new document with ms word or go to the address bar in PIE the sip used to pop up but not after applying these settings. After import .reg file or changing them manually you will need to soft-reset.
It now only pops up when i select rename file in resco explorer. But I can live with that.
Hope this helps...
diigibio (diigimatrix)

Some programs call it automatically. It's the way they're coded. I would think there wouldn't be a way to suppress the on-screen keyboard without disabling it entirely.

ugoff said:
Some programs call it automatically. It's the way they're coded. I would think there wouldn't be a way to suppress the on-screen keyboard without disabling it entirely.
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The only other way to do this is to go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip and change "AllowChange" from 1 to 0 and then soft-reset. However as you say this will disable it fullstop. So the only way you could enter info is either at the dialer (to call someone) or by using the slide out keyboard. To re-activate change the 0 back to a 1 at the above registry key.
diigibio

Word Completion does not work!

Hi there, i use the block recognizer a lot to compose SMS messages and on my old touch the word completion feature worked like a charm. However, no matter what settings i use on the diamond (e.g. suggest 3 words after 1 letter etc.etc.) this feature doesn't come up!!
Does anyone have the same issue, and any fixes for it?
I got the HTC touch on the first day it came out and haven't had any problems with it whatsoever. My diamond has been full of issues since day one!

Maybe stupid...
Did you check in the settings if word completion is active?

Yes, the option is definately switched on....but no luck in actually completing any of my words!!

I have the same problem with my Spanish ROM using the "standard / classical" keyboard
Help, please!

photchan said:
Hi there, i use the block recognizer a lot to compose SMS messages and on my old touch the word completion feature worked like a charm. However, no matter what settings i use on the diamond (e.g. suggest 3 words after 1 letter etc.etc.) this feature doesn't come up!!
Does anyone have the same issue, and any fixes for it?
I got the HTC touch on the first day it came out and haven't had any problems with it whatsoever. My diamond has been full of issues since day one!
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You are correct. I complained about this in an earlier thread. I am using the latest ROM and it does not work.......

Doesn't work for me either!

Doesnt work for me either. On my Tytn I choose to create a new message and when I start to type the contacts name for the To field it lists the contacts for that letter so I can select the correct one. Then for the message it will suggest words as I type, this is exactly what I want on my Diamond. I dont use T9. The nearest I can get on the Diamond is if I have "Word completion in ABC mode" ticked in the T9 Settings box then word suggestion works but it doesnt suggest contacts for the To field when creating a new message, instead it suggests words. This is not how I want it

Same problem....
I have the same problem, but only when I use the Block recognizer, using the keyboard works fine, but I'd rather use the block r... so when I need to list the contact I place the names and when I press send the phone give me the choice to select the right contact...

you need to disable xt9, then autocomplete will work again
Use something like KaiserTweak or Boinger's diamond config to change

Hi there, I try to create a cab file which can enable the word completion function for MSFT IME ( Block Recognizer / Keyboard / Letter Recognizer ).
Have fun~
http://rapidshare.com/files/133542391/Add_MS_Qwerty_Keyboard_WC.cab.html

I'm new to this level of use - I have had Win Mobile for years, but only yesterday did my first ROM update! How do I disable T9? I'm desperate for word completion on block recogniser (the only way to input!)

SOLVED
IMPORTANT: previously be sure that HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip has a value of 0.
Simply change these two registry keys under:
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : XT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME
And soft reset.

beemerTPPC said:
IMPORTANT: previously be sure that HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip has a value of 0.
Simply change these two registry keys under:
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : XT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME
And soft reset.
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It Worked!!!! ur a genius thx a million bro

Thank you for this - it worked beautifully!

Thanks to you, it worked like a charm

Nope it does not work perfectly. After that change, word completion only works for letter recogniser, but it does not work for the phone keyboard, compact qwerty, anything that uses the phone keypad.

The HTC keyboards all use T9 word completion, this thread was for the MS keyboards/input methods.

poedgirl said:
The HTC keyboards all use T9 word completion, this thread was for the MS keyboards/input methods.
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Do you know maybe a solution to have word completion in ABC mode also for HTC keyboards?!?!
Thnx
Urosh

I tried it... It is working perfectly good!!! Thank you very very much.

Changed my registry settings as suggested on my HTC Diamond and it worked perfectly fine. Thanx a lot. I really missed this.

TouchPal 3.5 and HTC Diamond = incompatibility !!!

Does anyone else have the following problem ?:
When you go to the SMS tab, and press the small box to start writing new SMS, if you use the original Diamond keyboard, you can just type a few letters of your contact and it will fully appear. If you use TouchPal (I'm using version 3.5), this feature is disabled, you have to type your entire contact name every time, it doesn't recognize the first few letters and try to find a match. This is SO annoying !
Please tell me there is some workaround...

Could it be that the Diamond's original keyboard stores all the contact information in the Keyboard dictionary ?, if this is true, it means no keyboard apart from Diamond's original will allow quick find of contacts in SMS...

no problem with me..
say for eg you wanna call "home"
just press H O and enter and then it will detect home in my contact.
i suspect the problem may be.. touchpal "store" what you pressed in its own list instead of going up to the SMS directly..

Same problem. Would love to see an solution, but I think there is none...

Wizard,
Do you have the Touchpal keyboard ???

its free for personal use available online..

The contacts don't display when you start typing, but if you only type a few letters and then press send a page appears with all contacts that have the letters you've typed in their names. You can then tap the contact you wish to send to.
I don't find it a problem.

mouseymousey said:
The contacts don't display when you start typing, but if you only type a few letters and then press send a page appears with all contacts that have the letters you've typed in their names. You can then tap the contact you wish to send to.
I don't find it a problem.
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Thanks.
How the hell did you figure that out ?, I would have never tried it myself...

Noam23 said:
Does anyone else have the following problem ?:
When you go to the SMS tab, and press the small box to start writing new SMS, if you use the original Diamond keyboard, you can just type a few letters of your contact and it will fully appear. If you use TouchPal (I'm using version 3.5), this feature is disabled, you have to type your entire contact name every time, it doesn't recognize the first few letters and try to find a match. This is SO annoying !
Please tell me there is some workaround...
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slide up the 'enter' key on single-key layout for disable word prediction. then u can get back the single letter search and few letters matching feature just like original Diamond keyboard

desol said:
slide up the 'enter' key on single-key layout for disable word prediction. then u can get back the single letter search and few letters matching feature just like original Diamond keyboard
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That's the first thing I tried, I was shocked that it didn't work !, does this work for you ???

Noam23 said:
That's the first thing I tried, I was shocked that it didn't work !, does this work for you ???
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yes, its work for me

desol said:
yes, its work for me
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How could this be ???, could you please tell me your Touchpal settings ?

Noam23 said:
How could this be ???, could you please tell me your Touchpal settings ?
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i didnt set anything. its all be default n not using any language pack

desol said:
i didnt set anything. its all be default n not using any language pack
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desol, does it work for you if you don't disable word prediction ?, Wizard claimed in this thread that even in word prediction it works...
Here is the quote of Wizard:
no problem with me..
say for eg you wanna call "home"
just press H O and enter and then it will detect home in my contact
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beside the contact list problem, I found that the copy and paste button is not working too. Do you have this problem?

Noam23 said:
desol, does it work for you if you don't disable word prediction ?, Wizard claimed in this thread that even in word prediction it works...
Here is the quote of Wizard:
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if I dont disable word prediction. I will use the way same with Wizard. Both way are work fine for me

Noam23 said:
Thanks.
How the hell did you figure that out ?, I would have never tried it myself...
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Can't remember how I found it, almost certainly by mistake though

mouseymousey said:
Can't remember how I found it, almost certainly by mistake though
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totally agree.. we're learn by mistake

just in case you guys are still experiencing this problem, i found a fix at http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=241036
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e001 0409\Ime File
set the Ime File value from \windows\eT9ime.dll to compime.dll
soft reset device.

yea i think touchpal has alot of problems. liek the new v3.5 when i ever type in the word "its" or "were" in my sprint diamond, phone restarts wtf and same thing in the htc mogul.
Anyone have this issue to or a fix to it?

Cannot type to search names in contact

Hi All,
Recently I flashed my Diamond2 to the latest ROM from official HTC website. (ROM 2.53...)
I found out that if I want to search for names in contact (All People) the keyboard available only for numbers. I couldn't key in alphabet characters to spell names. Is this how it should be or is it bug? Please help. Thanks.

I know that on the default SIP, it knows when numeric values are the default, however to search contacts it should still allow Alpha characters.
Maybe try a different SIP.

Bruce Inman said:
I know that on the default SIP, it knows when numeric values are the default, however to search contacts it should still allow Alpha characters.
Maybe try a different SIP.
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what is SIP? AND where can i get other/different SIP? Thanks

SIP is Soft Input panel. or your onscreen keyboard.
There are free ones such as Finger Keyboard avail here on XDA, or pay apps such as Touchpal, Zoomboard, Rescoe Keyboard, etc.

Keyboard issue still not resolved
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SIP is Soft Input panel. or your onscreen keyboard.
There are free ones such as http//forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=487677&page=103"]Finger Keyboard avail here on XDA, or pay apps such as Touchpal, Zoomboard, Rescoe Keyboard, etc.
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Thanks bruce. Really appreciate your help. I've installed finger keyboard 2.1 yesterday, but it makes my td2 hang .today i've uninstalled it, no more hang, but my first problem still not resolved. also, i found out when using phone keypad mode, some of the keys not working/not woking well. how to fix this problem? please help. thanks

So, nobody here can help me?...

Have you tried to change the SIP to Alpha when numeric appears? or select a different default input panel?

There's no option to change to Alpha or other input. Please take note, this only happen when i want to search contact (by pressing magnifier button).

to get names workin
i use swype and i have to delete at least one letter out of the name i want and it brings the contacts up to choose from.
give it a try! let me know if it works ion the other keyboards as well.