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Thumb-friendly keyboard (PocketCM alternative)?

PocketCM is good, but I'm looking for something better. Even though PocketCM doesn't require a stylus, I'm still having a horrible time typing with it.
What I'm looking for is a thumb-friendly, on-screen keyboard that'll take advantage of predictive text to allow larger buttons. Something like the Blackberry Pearl keyboard (1 or 2 letters per key), or even the traditional phone pad (with 3-4 letter per key) would be enough.
Anyone have a suggestion?

cootek touchpal is the best i've tried.
its all over these forums should be easy to find

Johnston411 said:
cootek touchpal is the best i've tried.
its all over these forums should be easy to find
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Thanks! Searching now.

Here's the link to Cootek Touchpal, its the best http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334437

Did you spell it right? A search revealed nothing...
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Got link, thanks!

Thanks for the recommendation! It works great!
Three questions:
1) Is this free until December, when I'll have to register it?
2) Is there any way to move the space button to the center (and why is it on the left in the first place?)
3) What is "precise" mode supposed to do?

Flapjack said:
Thanks for the recommendation! It works great!
Three questions:
1) Is this free until December, when I'll have to register it?
2) Is there any way to move the space button to the center (and why is it on the left in the first place?)
3) What is "precise" mode supposed to do?
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hold down the spacebar and drag to the middle and it'll move
precise mode appears to take away predictive text so you have to rely on finger slides to get the right characters.

gadgetluva said:
hold down the spacebar and drag to the middle and it'll move
precise mode appears to take away predictive text so you have to rely on finger slides to get the right characters.
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Thanks for the tip. I tried precise mode after I posted an it was horrendous.
I'm still getting used to the program. There are a few things I don't like about it:
1) It takes up a lot of screen space. I would like to see a smaller key option
2) It doesn't always remove itself from the screen when you leave a text area
3) There is no way to spell words efficiently, for example:
I wanted to type "download". I enter "down", but as soon as I hit the "L" button, the letters "down" change to something else. You have to accept "down" as the word, backspace over the space that is automatically entered, then finish the word. PITA.

It's not for one thumb but Spb Full Screen keyboard is the best I've used. I actully don't use the Kaiser keyboard and type 3 times faster with Spb. Also try Tengo its a one thumb kb with big keys.

Touchpal is nice ive used it before.. Im still waiting for PocketCM to release a newer versions as i had some issues with the current version..
As for another one, I flashed my Tilt to the AKU cooked rom thats floating around the forums and there is actually a SIP that is a phone pad that supports T9 input and I find it very handy and works well for one handed operations!

Touchpal is the best in my opinion. Once you get the feel of it you can really type fast.
Yes a slight reduction in hight would be good. I suggest if they half the height of the top row which contains the various options we could benefit with some more screen real estate.

try to go to the htc asia website and download the official phone pad from HTC! I really find it useful!!

where can i get Spb Full Screen keyboard ?

gimini said:
where can i get Spb Full Screen keyboard ?
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Here;
http://www.pocketgear.com/en_US/htm...Page=searchResults&id=prod5702026&sf=48190044

thank you. you guys are always so fast to help

If you buy the PRO version you can do that
This is the website:
http://www.cootek.com/index.html
srmz said:
Touchpal is the best in my opinion. Once you get the feel of it you can really type fast.
Yes a slight reduction in hight would be good. I suggest if they half the height of the top row which contains the various options we could benefit with some more screen real estate.
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What about Resco Keyboard ?

Flapjack said:
Thanks for the tip. I tried precise mode after I posted an it was horrendous.
I'm still getting used to the program. There are a few things I don't like about
1) It takes up a lot of screen space. I would like to see a smaller key option
2) It doesn't always remove itself from the screen when you leave a text area
3) There is no way to spell words efficiently, for example:
I wanted to type "download". I enter "down", but as soon as I hit the "L" button, the letters "down" change to something else. You have to accept "down" as the word, backspace over the space that is automatically entered, then finish the word. PITA.
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yeah it is a slight learning curve, but once you get used to it it'll be the best sip out the there! I got the same thing when trying to spell download, but after spelling out by using the sliding function, it showed up everytime when using the predictive mode! it just takes a little getting used to!

Well, now that I've been using it for a while, I have several big problems. I don't know who to blame (M$ or Cootek), but here they are:
1) The program will only work if I use it in conjunction with sipchange. Once I do that, I cannot select any other keyboard. They come up in the choice list, but if I select them, nothing happens. So I'm stuck with it. If I'm using the stylus, I prefer the standard windows keyboard, which is why this is an issue
2) The program does not go down and stay down. Unlike the standard windows keyboard, TouchPal is always popping up in your face. It drives me nuts, as I only seem to actually need it 1/4 of the time it decides to pop up. It seems to take 2-3 times minimizing it for it to finally stay down... and when it does, it can pop up again for absolutely no reason.
3) It may be the most the most intuitive keyboard, but it's still not very "finger-friendly". I don't consider myself to have unusually large hands, but I still cannot reliably hit the right key every time, even when I'm careful. Another thing it will do is detect a capital letter (diagonal motion) when I very clearly touched it without a swipe. Not sure why this is...
I'm still in search of something better....
princeasi said:
yeah it is a slight learning curve, but once you get used to it it'll be the best sip out the there! I got the same thing when trying to spell download, but after spelling out by using the sliding function, it showed up everytime when using the predictive mode! it just takes a little getting used to!
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gabriel31337 said:
What about Resco Keyboard ?
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I'm curious about the same thing. I love the Fx mode that the Resco keyboards offer.

Why sometimes (most of times actually) 3rd party keyboards does not appear?

I have this bad problem ever since I am the user of WM5 with Dopod 838pro. I install PCMKeyboard and Blimkeys to enable one-handed application for writing short message and some small write-up.
Most of the time, when I select PCMKeyboard or Blimkeys, it just does not appear. Instead the idiot Microsoft default keyboard that will appear. Only when I am very lucky those keyboard will appear.
This is really annoying me
Anybody knows how to solve this?

Have you installed the keyboards on SD card? The SD card doesnt get power immediately on device wake-up and the keyboard stuff may not load properly. Also, the default keyboard is switched everytime after a soft-reset unless youve changed it with other applications once.
Regards,
Carty..

everytime you reset/restart the phone it reverts back to the default MS keyboard. you would need to manually set the SIP back to the custom board you want.

Carty said:
Have you installed the keyboards on SD card? The SD card doesnt get power immediately on device wake-up and the keyboard stuff may not load properly. Also, the default keyboard is switched everytime after a soft-reset unless youve changed it with other applications once.
Regards,
Carty..
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No, all the keyboards were installed in the device. not in SD card. by the way, I also have another Arabic keyboard also installed. Is it the culprit?

NguyenHuu said:
everytime you reset/restart the phone it reverts back to the default MS keyboard. you would need to manually set the SIP back to the custom board you want.
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Previously, I did that by using SIPChange and I ended up not able to boot my device...
I dare not try for second time..

do you have QuickMenu installed in your device? useful program that gives a windows pc style start menu. anyways, if you do it comes with it's own SIP changer, simply changes to each board type doesnt mess anything else up.

Stop screen keyboard from opening automatically

Argh! its one of those annoyances that pisses me off lol.
Every time I enter a text field screen keyboard pops up covering half of the screen.
How do I stop it? I want it to open only when I click on it.

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Out of curiosity, are you using the standard keyboard or Pocket CM, resco ect?

Standard, the one that comes with Dutty's v4. It has a Touch skin, but I think it's standard keyboard.
If there's an answer somewhere - please point me in the right direction.. I searched and didn't find anything (it's kinda hard to phrase this one)

Sorry. Don’t have any answers for you. I was asking just to keejp note just in case a similar problem occurred with my Kaiser. I have an original non flashed rom by the way, so it probably won’t be a problem with me.

246810 said:
Sorry. Don’t have any answers for you. I was asking just to keejp note just in case a similar problem occurred with my Kaiser. I have an original non flashed rom by the way, so it probably won’t be a problem with me.
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Yes you will.
It's not a bug, it's a feature.. and it comes standard with every ROM I've seen (WM5+). Most people won't have a problem with it, but if I type something, I use hardware keyboard.. so on-screen keyboard pop-up is useless for me.

ummm... well it hasn't been a problem with any of the two MDA touch's, MDA vario II, or two MDA Vario III's I've had in the last few months... Fingers crossed it'll stay that way....

I would also like to see a solution

I vaguely remember a blank-sip or none-sip program exactly for this purpose. You could make it the default. Maybe PHM made it, try searching on the web.

I like the option of using the SIP sometimes, but most of the time I don't want it. It seems like once you use it once, it thinks you want it all the time, until you use the hardware keyboard again. How hard would it be to just let me click on it when I want it. Jeez!

a blank SIP is an option in this free program: http://www.phm.lu/products/PocketPC/PowerToys/

Blank SIP is a solution, but not a very good one. When I do want to use screen keyboard, I'd have to snipe that little arrow to open SIP selection, then find what I want and click it. Wait for it to load...
It'd be easier if it just wouldn't pop-up when cursor is in the text field. There's probably a setting somewhere..

Try this....
DarkDvr said:
Blank SIP is a solution, but not a very good one. When I do want to use screen keyboard, I'd have to snipe that little arrow to open SIP selection, then find what I want and click it. Wait for it to load...
It'd be easier if it just wouldn't pop-up when cursor is in the text field. There's probably a setting somewhere..
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Try these registry settings that worked for me. When I used to open a new document with ms word or go to the address bar in PIE the sip used to pop up but not after applying these settings. After import .reg file or changing them manually you will need to soft-reset.
It now only pops up when i select rename file in resco explorer. But I can live with that.
Hope this helps...
diigibio (diigimatrix)

Some programs call it automatically. It's the way they're coded. I would think there wouldn't be a way to suppress the on-screen keyboard without disabling it entirely.

ugoff said:
Some programs call it automatically. It's the way they're coded. I would think there wouldn't be a way to suppress the on-screen keyboard without disabling it entirely.
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The only other way to do this is to go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip and change "AllowChange" from 1 to 0 and then soft-reset. However as you say this will disable it fullstop. So the only way you could enter info is either at the dialer (to call someone) or by using the slide out keyboard. To re-activate change the 0 back to a 1 at the above registry key.
diigibio

Duttythroy touch keyboard/HTC touch keyboard

Hi all,
I've finally narrowed down where all my sytem crashes are coming from, and it appears to be my installations of "duttythroy HTC Touch Keyboard" and "HTC Touch Keyboard + Keypad"
Both are installed (HTC one first, then duttythroy), and when I come to type something, the options are there in the pop-up menu ("Touch Keyboard" "Touch Keypad"), however if I select one, the normal keyboard appears and the selected entry jumps back to "Keyboard", so I'm guessing thats because it failed to access/load the touch keyboard?
So I then go to uninstall, and it cannot uninstall either of them, it sits forever with the little spinning icon as it tries to uninstall, eventually failing by either locking the device needing a reset, or by popping up saying it cannot remove the application at this time.
Can anyone provide me manual removal details for this application, I'll need registry, files, etc to remove it as cleanly as I can if possible.
Thanks in advance

I dont know about your system crashes, but the solution to the keyboard and keypad problem is found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271008

Hiya,
Thanks for that but I don't believe thats the actual issue, as its not between resets that it won't permit me to select the touch keyboard, its actually when I manually select the touch keyboard it cancels that and reverts back.
So, I really need to manually clean/uninstall these applications that appear to have become corrupted somewhere along the way.

That is the actual issue with the keyboard, it wont let you select it at all - if you read back through the post linked above it's not aimed at setting a default selection, it's to make it work at all!
I had the same issue, clicked on either and it would just stay on keyboard and so have many others. Installation of SIPchange sorted it. Maybe then you can rule out this being the problem for your system crashes?
Good luck

Software Keyboard (seems fast)
Try FingertouchPRO, the layout is customizable and so is the keyboard height, I was able to make this as big as fullscreen and also little as I liked.
The cab resides on www.fingertouchpro.com , just click the big CAB button.
There is a movie showing this toy in action, the speed (if it's real) is incredible!

Another SIP when stylus out

New version at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2622590&postcount=45
Old version
I'm make a small program, which change current SIP when stylus out of the case and in the case.
Just unzip, and run program. Run again, and you can stop background process.
Settings in registry:
key HKCU\Software\HtcExtFun
value StylusInSipName - string name of SIP when stylus in the case
value StylusOutSipName - string name of SIP when stylus out of the case
example of reg settings (included in attached archive):
Code:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HtcExtFun]
"StylusOutSipName"="Keyboard - VGAKEY"
"StylusInSipName"="TouchPal"

Sorry I messed up im such an idiot!

And would it be possible to change the diamond in some kind of explosive device if the stylus is pulled out and in five times in less than three seconds ?
Hmmm James Bond on TV tonight, sorry for that.
The real question was : what do you call SIP : is it any program ? Does it interfere with the "notes" opening during a call ?

SIP = "Soft Input Panel"
It's the method of inputting text on a ppc, such as keyboard, transcriber etc...
Thanks a lot exidler, I've been missing this feature

My question is will it interfere/conflict with a SmartSIP application? I'm not in the mood for a Hard Reset just now due to conflicting SIPs...

Hello,
Nice idea but when I execute the HtcExtFun.exe I received this message :
"can't initialize SIP CLSIDs for stylus status"
My Rom is HTC_FRA_1.93.406.1
Thank's for you help

ralfred said:
Hello,
Nice idea but when I execute the HtcExtFun.exe I received this message :
"can't initialize SIP CLSIDs for stylus status"
My Rom is HTC_FRA_1.93.406.1
Thank's for you help
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Just change the registry keys to whatever SIPs you use. You probably don't even have a "Keyboard - VGAKEY" installed.
2ALL: Also be sure to input localized names for SIPs into reg keys (for non-WWE ROMs). Good luck!
Btw, it works just fine with SmartSIP...
Good job, exidler! Thank you. It's just what I wanted. Will probably uninstall SmartSIP now...

At begining of topic, asking about runing Notes when stylus pulled out.
My question: may be add feature to run something when stylus pulled out? Not only when call in progress.

exidler said:
At begining of topic, asking about runing Notes when stylus pulled out.
My question: may be add feature to run something when stylus pulled out? Not only when call in progress.
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Would be a nice addition, but I'd prefer it to be user-configurable (on/off), with a list of exceptions. So each time I'm about to rename a file it won't open Notes or whatever.

help stylus
for open the program???
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HtcExtFun]
"StylusOutSipName"="Keyboard - VGAKEY"
"StylusInSipName"="TouchPal"
hello graziano

WOW Fantastic app thanks
I Repackaged it in a cab file that adds the reg key to change between Compact QWERTY and Keyboard. Also drops a shortcut under
Start Menu>Programs
Jules

Video of the software here. I think its great, but could obviously do with a configuration panel and having a shortcut dropped into \windows\startup.
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=739
Surur

ZaJules said:
I Repackaged it in a cab file that adds the reg key to change between Compact QWERTY and Keyboard. Also drops a shortcut under
Start Menu>Programs
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Really nice, but the shortcut doesn't work.

peterbonge said:
Really nice, but the shortcut doesn't work.
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It only worked for me after a soft reset, and then starting the app once.
Surur

To have it start at every boot up, paste the app in /Windows/StartUp
Very convenient app, they should have implemented this in the original ROM .

Awesome!...
It worked after I add ZaJules's Reg file.
But I want to be able to switch between:
Compact QWERTY and Fitaly by textware.
I edited the reg location (in windows registry) from keyboard to fitaly
now removing/replacing stylus doesn't do anything...
cheers, stevo.
[edit] Maybe it's called something else in the registry...
[edit] fixed it.
I had "Keyboard Qwerty" insteat of "Keyboard QWERTY", so it IS CAP specific!.
cheers, swesome.... This bl00dy phone just gets better and better every day...!

Updated the cab to include the automated startup

GREAT small application, very handy indeed.

re not go
error on startup
saluti dvdfilm

when using the exidler....cab I got an error while starting up. It seems the application is missing a reference. When I start it manually I get an error about missing reference in registry.
I use original Rom 1.93GER