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Tytn II screen replacement cost !!!

It costs 142 US dollars for screen replacement in India's service center.
plus servicing charges of 20 US dollars.
If I sell this tytn II as a used piece (after replacing the screen), it will fetch me 300 US dollars.
Why the hell is this screen so expensive.
when will HTC stop looting WM lovers.

there are other screens ive seen cheaper. but sorry i forgot the website =/. go look around google or something.

You'll find them for about $80 on ebay. LCD's have always been expensive, nothing new...

you tried ebay mate?
however, if you do get a screen, do not try and install it yourself, let someone experienced do it as HTC's are difficult to take apart and put together, trust me, i learnt the hide way trying to install a screen on my old Artemis....

Realz. said:
you tried ebay mate?
however, if you do get a screen, do not try and install it yourself, let someone experienced do it as HTC's are difficult to take apart and put together, trust me, i learnt the hide way trying to install a screen on my old Artemis....
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Bah, its not that hard!! Just follow the instructions of Mike Channons page, hes got all the service manuals. I've had devices completely to pieces and re-assembled them using those instructions. Its all good as long as you follow them exactly (and have a really tiny torx). You've gotta learn somewhere!

haha i would still have a professional do mine

I need to replace a customer's TYTN II LCD. Another phone shop in my city (Brisbane, Australia) says they can sell me a screen, but they need to know the serial number of the broken screen because apparently, there were 20 different LCDs used in the TYTN range and I have to install a new LCD with the same type of serial number.
Questions:
1. is this correct?
2. I was very close to buying from blackberry8100parts.com but it looks like they only sell within the US. Anyone got them to sell internationally?
I plan on buying the screen from ebay, unless someone can convince me otherwise.

I wouldn't believe 20 different screens, but for many HTC phones (Blueangel, Wizard,..) there were each time 2 different possible screens indeed, not compatible of course. Don't know if it's also the case for the Kaiser.

Broke Tilt in half

So one of my friends at work had an att tilt. However his son dropped it out of his pants pocket and the screen popped off. Screen is still in one piece however completly seperated from the tilt mechanism and the ribbon cable is missing. So I told him instead of throwing it away (cause att does not offer insurance) to give it to me and I'd see what I can do (Gonna unlock it and use it as an upgrade for my wing ).
I've read some of the hardware manuals and can already see I'll need parts to fix it. But I have no ideas what ones. Or if it's even worth it to fix. I mean its basically a free tilt minus any repair costs. Any help?

wshader said:
So one of my friends at work had an att tilt. However his son dropped it out of his pants pocket and the screen popped off. Screen is still in one piece however completly seperated from the tilt mechanism and the ribbon cable is missing. So I told him instead of throwing it away (cause att does not offer insurance) to give it to me and I'd see what I can do (Gonna unlock it and use it as an upgrade for my wing ).
I've read some of the hardware manuals and can already see I'll need parts to fix it. But I have no ideas what ones. Or if it's even worth it to fix. I mean its basically a free tilt minus any repair costs. Any help?
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Check thi site, there is a manual how to dismantle kaiser. Could be helpful:
http://michael-channon.spaces.live....smantling+%2f+Disassembling+Guides+HTC%2fETEN

Thank you, however thats actually the repair manual I looked at. However while looking for parts I have yet to find the ribbon cable that connects to the display.
This is basically what I have except the ribbon cable is missing. And alot of steps missing to get it this way.

wshader said:
Thank you, however thats actually the repair manual I looked at. However while looking for parts I have yet to find the ribbon cable that connects to the display.
This is basically what I have except the ribbon cable is missing.
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OMG, that had to hurt.

Yeah, kid was playing basketball and fell out of his pocket. I guess the kid has broke 4 phones this month... curve, tilt, 2 pantec duos. Told my friend to get him a $20 go-phone now lol. And use the savings to get me a tilt
I dont know what kind of damage besides the physical the drop may have caused. Phone was not on at the time so that may have helped it (I hope)

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Yeah, and I dont know what kind of damage besides the physical the drop may have caused. Phone was not on at the time so that may have helped it (I hope)
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I hope u repair it. Wish u luck.

Without actually looking at it, its hard to say what exactly you need. But you for sure need a new flex cable. Unfortunately that is the hardest part to find. At least here in the US. I usually buy broken phones from people who don't want to pay for a repair. Then I use the parts from them. You can get a new housing easily enough if you need it but the flex cable will be your biggest hurdle.
I suggest trying to find one broken on ebay and using the 2 you have to make one working phone. Even a broken Tilt can run for $200 on ebay though.

Anyone notice that case has already been replaced at some stage as it has a camera hole (not standard for Tilts) a keyboard without the white part and no logo. Perhaps the replacement was weaker than the original one. If the O/P searches the forum here for LCD Screen replacements there's loads of links to different companies supplying parts for Kaiser variants. I have no experience using any of them though so cant suggest which ones are best.

@Planet Neo
Yeah I was thinking that but was hoping it wouldn't come to that. Would suck to spend $200 for parts just to find the motherboard is broke or something to that effect. Was hoping someone knew of a place to buy a new cable or had one to sell. Also was hoping someone with some experience could let me know if they think I'd need a new tilt assembly.
@Flying Kiwi
Lol, I used a picture from kaiser disassembly guide to show what i was referring to. It has the standard tilt case. I'll be taking pictures of what I have as soon as I have the phone in my possession.

Okay I assume that its going to be very hard to get the ribbon and you're going to need housing. I believe that it will be the same as making a new tilt, because the screen is as good as dead without the ribbon so all you could do is get new housing and a new screen and it should rack up about $150-200. Which in my opinion is much easier and faster and better than frustrating on getting a ribbon.
Just my 2 cents.
Kraize

Planetneo said:
Without actually looking at it, its hard to say what exactly you need. But you for sure need a new flex cable. Unfortunately that is the hardest part to find. At least here in the US. I usually buy broken phones from people who don't want to pay for a repair. Then I use the parts from them. You can get a new housing easily enough if you need it but the flex cable will be your biggest hurdle.
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I'm sure you'll think I'm busting your balls / stalking you but hard to find? Hell no! Expensive, maybe ( $100) but hard to find? I think not. Good job you're not charging people for you expert advice else they'd be wanting refunds....how long did you say you'd been doing this for?
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=tytn+flex&category0=
You need a TYTN II flex. There are many other suppliers and if you go direct they may be a bit cheaper. google is your friend....
To check the board - connect to a windoze computer with a mini USB cable and power up or press the soft reset button to boot it - it should ident and install then try to sync. It should boot fine even with no LCD if it's OK assuming the battery still holds some charge.
A full housing will run you about $60. Some sellers have just front panels for about $40 though I'm unsure if these have the pivot.
M.S

Mysterious Stranger said:
I'm sure you'll think I'm busting your balls / stalking you but hard to find? Hell no! Expensive, maybe ( $100) but hard to find? I think not. Good job you're not charging people for you expert advice else they'd be wanting refunds....how long did you say you'd been doing this for?
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=tytn+flex&category0=
You need a TYTN II flex. There are many other suppliers and if you go direct they may be a bit cheaper. google is your friend....
To check the board - connect to a windoze computer with a mini USB cable and power up or press the soft reset button to boot it - it should ident and install then try to sync. It should boot fine even with no LCD if it's OK assuming the battery still holds some charge.
A full housing will run you about $60. Some sellers have just front panels for about $40 though I'm unsure if these have the pivot.
M.S
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Man, MS you really need to get off my nuts. It's getting creepy. I said in my post hard to find at least in the US. And the link you gave was for a seller in China. One more word of advice for the OP, Make sure this part actually works for the AT&T Tilt variant. I had a customer buy a Flex cable for the HTC Herald thinking it would work for the T-Mobile Wing but due to the modified button layout of the Wing it did not fit correctly. Much like this person HERE experienced.

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Man, MS you really need to get off my nuts. It's getting creepy. I said in my post hard to find at least in the US. And the link you gave was for a seller in China. One more word of advice for the OP, Make sure this part actually works for the AT&T Tilt variant. I had a customer buy a Flex cable for the HTC Herald thinking it would work for the T-Mobile Wing but due to the modified button layout of the Wing it did not fit correctly. Much like this person HERE experienced.
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These things are made in Shenzhen so where you think the parts come from?
Stop talking &*%(* and I'll stop correcting your posts Instead of saying something is a fact say it's your opinion. It's not a 'rare' part - and they ship WORLDWIDE. It's not as if he'll get one from a local mom and pop store - it's gonna be mail order wherever you get it from and looking at the seller's feedback is a good judge - all my parts come from China - so why pay a middleman such as yourself extra $ just so it has a US stamp on the package?
Someone needs to act as quality control on your posts and it looks like it's gonna have to be me if you keep posting [email protected]
M.S

Tilt Warranty Question

Since AT&T discontinued the tilt what will they exchange my phone for?? will it be something with lesser value? or will it be the fuze? i heard that at&t starts offering warranty right before they discontinue the phone your purchasing.. do they do that so they can rip u off? has anyone here previously reported there phone missing? what did they exchange it for? any help would be great thanx!

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Since AT&T discontinued the tilt what will they exchange my phone for?? will it be something with lesser value? or will it be the fuze? i heard that at&t starts offering warranty right before they discontinue the phone your purchasing.. do they do that so they can rip u off? has anyone here previously reported there phone missing? what did they exchange it for? any help would be great thanx!
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well i doubt that they will replace it with a fuze yet. I mean they have to run out of tilts (including refurb's) before they replace it with another phone. Once that happens than they will offer you the next most competant phone to replace yours.. which will be the fuze eventually.
However depending on when you got your tilt you have a 1 year warranty on it so there is no way att can rip you of that. That warranty is effective from the day of purchase. Att, however, just started (about a month ago) offering insurance for the tilt; this was not available before.
When you report your phone as lost ... that isn't a device defect that is your mistake (in their eyes) for being careless. In order for you to get a replacement under these circumstances you need to have insurance otherwise you are SOL (sh*t out of luck). However, bear in mind the deductible for replacing a tilt is 150.00 dollars so this really doesn't do any good what so ever as alot of members here are selling their tilts for that price.
Hope this helps get rid of confusion ... than again it might not as we live on a planet that revolves around itself and around a star ... and agh that is confusing... am i floating .. walking .. damn which side is flat (no wait earth is round nothing is flat) .. than how come i don't fall ... aah thank you sir isaac newton for that info... confusion cleared

I read that they are just pulling it from AT$T stores,but that it will still be manufactured and available at AT&T online only.

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well i doubt that they will replace it with a fuze yet. I mean they have to run out of tilts (including refurb's) before they replace it with another phone. Once that happens than they will offer you the next most competant phone to replace yours.. which will be the fuze eventually.
However depending on when you got your tilt you have a 1 year warranty on it so there is no way att can rip you of that. That warranty is effective from the day of purchase. Att, however, just started (about a month ago) offering insurance for the tilt; this was not available before.
When you report your phone as lost ... that isn't a device defect that is your mistake (in their eyes) for being careless. In order for you to get a replacement under these circumstances you need to have insurance otherwise you are SOL (sh*t out of luck). However, bear in mind the deductible for replacing a tilt is 150.00 dollars so this really doesn't do any good what so ever as alot of members here are selling their tilts for that price.
Hope this helps get rid of confusion ... than again it might not as we live on a planet that revolves around itself and around a star ... and agh that is confusing... am i floating .. walking .. damn which side is flat (no wait earth is round nothing is flat) .. than how come i don't fall ... aah thank you sir isaac newton for that info... confusion cleared
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thank u so much for clearing that up.. 1 more question though if i go to a store that has run out of the tilts will they be able to give me a fuze? or would i need to wait for at&t to send me one?

filo4u said:
thank u so much for clearing that up.. 1 more question though if i go to a store that has run out of the tilts will they be able to give me a fuze? or would i need to wait for at&t to send me one?
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no exchanges are done through customer service (99%) not at store level. They won't be able to help you out they'll give you 800 number for customer service and they will handle that for you.

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Broken LCD

Hi Guys,
Last night my phone got damaged in an accident. The LCD is broken i think. but the digitizer is alright. I have run out of warranty so just wanted to know how much does the HTC service center charge for the repairing.
I am living in INDIA, Pune.
Also is there any way I can do it myself?

ebay tytn ii lcd... you should be able to find a couple... make sure you get a trox screw driver with it... its really simple to replace

HTC repair services are hard to come by, but there are some online services around $150 or so. you could find a screen on ebay for cheaper, but you will also need a T5, T6, and T7 torx screw drivers as well as tools to break the seam, and flat head and philips screw drivers, along with directions and about 3.5 hours of your time if you want to fix it yourself.

higherbeing said:
ebay tytn ii lcd... you should be able to find a couple... make sure you get a trox screw driver with it... its really simple to replace
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I found this listing
http://cgi.ebay.com/LCD-Touch-Scree...286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:15|39:1|240:1318
IS it so cheap?

mufazzal123 said:
I found this listing
http://cgi.ebay.com/LCD-Touch-Scree...286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:15|39:1|240:1318
IS it so cheap?
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Ummmm nope friend....thats just the digitizer. They generally run around 45$ or so.
This one looks pretty decent

thanks!
I hope this works. Also I read somewhere that there are two types of LCD,
Green and Normal.
Which one is this?

Take a look there:
http://cnn.cn/shop/8925-tilt-kaiser-c-277_448.html
I purchased one, my was broken too, its very cheap and delivery from China to Swizerland costs only 5$.

ziko said:
Take a look there:
http://cnn.cn/shop/8925-tilt-kaiser-c-277_448.html
I purchased one, my was broken too, its very cheap and delivery from China to Swizerland costs only 5$.
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That shows 75$ + 5 SHIP
What I linked was 36 + free ship.
I was trying to keep costs down for him lol

pyraxiate said:
Ummmm nope friend....thats just the digitizer. They generally run around 45$ or so.
This one looks pretty decent
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I already ordered that one. I got a offer of free shipping too.
But I will need the help of you guys to fix the screen, Because though I am a Mechanical Engg. I am not so expert in such delicate things.

Mike Channon Should be your friend then
Mike has got you covered for detailed pics and I thought he had vids on his site as well, found HERE. It truly is a simple task. I've done it on 1 Hermes and 2 Kaisers. I should put a shingle up for this kinda stuff !

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Mike has got you covered for detailed pics and I thought he had vids on his site as well, found HERE. It truly is a simple task. I've done it on 1 Hermes and 2 Kaisers. I should put a shingle up for this kinda stuff !
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Thanks. Doesn't look that easy. But I think Practical is always easier than theory

mufazzal123 said:
Thanks. Doesn't look that easy. But I think Practical is always easier than theory
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Ive taken apart my hermes about 50 times in total. It doesnt look like the kaiser is much harder. Ive had no need to as of yet. It might look a tad intimidating at first, but you should be fine. Just take careful to note what came from where as you disassemble it. Mikes guide is pretty in-depth do I would print it out and have a hard copy near you as you make the attempt

asrrin29 said:
HTC repair services are hard to come by, but there are some online services around $150 or so. you could find a screen on ebay for cheaper, but you will also need a T5, T6, and T7 torx screw drivers as well as tools to break the seam, and flat head and philips screw drivers, along with directions and about 3.5 hours of your time if you want to fix it yourself.
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It took me 35 mins while watching tv and checking emails.
so it may not that long...

It was much easier than I thought. However use the 'only four screw removal method' - no need to take two parts apart as mentioned in some of the instructions you will find here.
I was able to take out four screws, pry apart the two pieces (had to order the special pry tool) and just push up the LCD screen, remove the connecting cable and take it out by sliding it out.
See the following links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390724&page=2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337102&page=5

Thank You guys for all your support and guidence.
I have fixed the LCD and yes it is very simple task, hardly took 30 min.

how hard is it to put a new case/housing/body on the g1?

mine's gotten pretty beat up. how hard is it to a) find replacements for and b) replace the:
housing/body
digitizer
trackball
and could a noob do it? the only other device I've done a case swap on was a psp 3000.
and I don't have a warranty, so that isn't an issue.

and how do I know if something like this is authentic?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-Housin...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3a586212fb

gonintendo said:
and how do I know if something like this is authentic?
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I don't think you could just walk into any store and find a housing for the G1 or nearly any phone for that matter. Maybe a wireless shop that deals with all types of phones might be able to get there hands on it.
As far as knowing whether that ebay ad is authentic, you really can't say. I would contact the seller and ask him personally. Also, 22 bucks isn't bad at all.

anyone else?

I'm also interested in this issue as I want to switch from black to white. Anybody?

bump...............

It has to say OEM in the description (original equipment manufacturer) if you want it to be authentic. Here's a link on dissasembly. It's straight from HTC

mejorguille said:
It has to say OEM in the description (original equipment manufacturer) if you want it to be authentic. Here's a link on dissasembly. It's straight from HTC
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thank you.
has anyone here ever done it? any tips/tricks/warnings about doing it?

Not too hard, you just have to be really careful not to damage/remove internals xP

protomanez said:
Not too hard, you just have to be really careful not to damage/remove internals xP
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ooh, well I took apart a psp once for the same reason and I broke the connector for the screen's ribbon cable (apparently super glue is not a conductor b/c i was able to super glue it back on and it worked from then on) but I guess I now know to make sure to try moving the little lever in both directions and not to apply force.
If anyone has ever taken apart a psp, how does this compare to it?

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ooh, well I took apart a psp once for the same reason and I broke the connector for the screen's ribbon cable (apparently super glue is not a conductor b/c i was able to super glue it back on and it worked from then on) but I guess I now know to make sure to try moving the little lever in both directions and not to apply force.
If anyone has ever taken apart a psp, how does this compare to it?
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bump please, I am interested in this as well... I have customized/built computers, fixed iphones, xbox remotes, xbox and xbox 360s ...not to mention took apart a TV, and a few laptops....
anything compareable in that list at all?
What would you rate the difficulty of replacing the entire housing on the G1 ? Please advise me..

I am getting ready to undertake this task as well. I ordered a complete replacement from Hong Kong OEM branded, the works. I will be documenting the process step by step, and may even make a youtube video, and link them here, to contribute to the HTC G1 community. It'll be at least 3 weeks before it comes, though, most likely. If you haven't done it by then, look for my work.

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I am getting ready to undertake this task as well. I ordered a complete replacement from Hong Kong OEM branded, the works. I will be documenting the process step by step, and may even make a youtube video, and link them here, to contribute to the HTC G1 community. It'll be at least 3 weeks before it comes, though, most likely. If you haven't done it by then, look for my work.
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I will be looking forward to that!...

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i was thinking about doing this but i never really got to it because none of the sellers had a manual on how to do it. ive taken apart ipods and whatnot but i love my g1 and i really dont want to mess it up :l.