T-mobile V3 & TT6 what version have you got working - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

been tying all morning, and reading various posts.
now i think its V6.030 for use with the internal GPS but it fails to install, tho ive not found an offical tomtom link? anyone,

fil said:
been tying all morning, and reading various posts.
now i think its V6.030 for use with the internal GPS but it fails to install, tho ive not found an offical tomtom link? anyone,
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I'm running 6.030, I took the SD card out of my old Wizard, did a direct copy to my new MiroSD (6gig :-D) did a little file tidy up and then popped it into my Kaiser. It auto ran and did its install and worked straight away. I've since done a hard reset and it installed first time again.
In TT6 I have selected NMEA GPS receiver, baud rate of 4800 and COM4.
I'm really pleased with the GPS performance, I was worried that it wouldnt work as well as my bluetooth one as that could get a signal in seconds anywhere, even indoors, but the Kaiser is not a bad match, it struggles a bit indoors, but it gets there, over all very pleased.

hmm, i must have some issues, as i took my sd out of my hermes, where it would auto run, but when plaxing it in the kaiser it wont run atall?

fil said:
hmm, i must have some issues, as i took my sd out of my hermes, where it would auto run, but when plaxing it in the kaiser it wont run atall?
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On the root of the SD card there should be a folder called 2577, this has the TomTom cabs
I think all the auto run does is run these, just select them in File Explore and run them manually, should work...

nlhall said:
On the root of the SD card there should be a folder called 2577, this has the TomTom cabs
I think all the auto run does is run these, just select them in File Explore and run them manually, should work...
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yep got that, click the autorun, the tt hands pop up on the screen then it just reverts back to the same screen, ie can just click autorun again?

Currently running 6.032 (8351) with UK & IE plus major roads of WE 1409 v675.1409
lots of info here .... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330235&page=5

fil said:
yep got that, click the autorun, the tt hands pop up on the screen then it just reverts back to the same screen, ie can just click autorun again?
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What about if you just run the cab's directly?

if your talking about the ttn2003.cab or ttn.cab @ 5.50M then it asks to install and the progess bar just hangs , have to soft reset the phone to get out of it.

I am running 6.010 still and it works fine using the NMEA GPS with the above settings. I think the only thing I would say is once its installed if you have any problems with getting a fix on sats hit the tomtom traffic/update button as I did this and since then it was fine getting the sat info even if it takes a little time .
Russ

ericb said:
Currently running 6.032 (8351) with UK & IE plus major roads of WE 1409 v675.1409
lots of info here .... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330235&page=5
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that was the 1st thread i found, and thought great! downloaded installed and got "Setup Error: Unable to install application. Please update your device ROM to the required version before trying again."
like many of the other T-mobile users on that thread, the solution seemed to be to get 6.030 version installed, but that aint playing the game!!!!
goes off to bang head againt the wall!

just checked, put my memory card back in my hermes, tomtom runs fine version 6.030, put the card in the kaiser and no go?

Might be worth trying to downgrade to 6.010? as I say I am using that version perfectly fine, 6.030 gave me **** regarding my maps which i bought v6.75 maps a while back but they wont initialise with the tomtom home software so thought bugger it just install 6.010 which works on my Vario I with WM6 and its all fine.
Russ

allthough 6.030 didnt run well for you , you could actally install it?
if thats the case, i might hard reset the device and start again?

hard reset the piece of crap
still wont work???????????????????????????
Get "Installing ttn.cab" then the lttle windows timer in the centre of the screen and that it it just does bugga' all!

Sorry for the delayed response but yes i managed to install 6.030 no problems there it was just everytime i started it and it wanted to register the map no matter what i tried it would not accept the key information even via tomtom home.
Russ

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iGuidance 3.0.1 and the Tilt

Has anyone got iGuidance 3.0.1 to work on a Tilt. I am getting mine tomorrow and really need this program to work. Thanks.
Sorry, 3.01 won't work on any WM6 device I believe. I found display issues, prog closes if you touch any key while navigating.
The good news is that v4 works great on WM6 and Kaiser for sure and I believe that it will work on Tilt as well. (If it won't work on tilt, I'd flash the tilt to the HTC rom).
V3.01 works GREAT on the Kaiser.
The only issue is that you need to disconnect the data connection or it wont boot up. Other than that, I have seen very few issues.
(If you dont disconnect data, it may take iNav 5 minutes or so to load up. When disconnected, it takes about 3 seconds on mine).
I have iguidance v4, but I have a problem with the maps. Instructions tell me to load the map folder on my SD card, but I don't want to put 1.4GBs worth of maps when I only want 1 or 2 states for the time being. Is there any way to just load 1 state's map?
Ken
Data Connection w/ iGuidence
Thanks for the tip about the data connection! That was driving me crazy. How did you figure that out?
kjones2k1 said:
I have iguidance v4, but I have a problem with the maps. Instructions tell me to load the map folder on my SD card, but I don't want to put 1.4GBs worth of maps when I only want 1 or 2 states for the time being. Is there any way to just load 1 state's map?
Ken
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V3.01 came with a map-loader which let you select exactly what you wanted.
Look in your program files and see if you can find something like that.
Miclo77 said:
Thanks for the tip about the data connection! That was driving me crazy. How did you figure that out?
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Trolling these boards and emails to iGuidance support. Glad it helped.
yeah i to don't like the map size so i went back to v4 until i get a 6GB card (or 8GB)
there is no map loader with v4 from what I have seen so I believe you are stuck on that point.. hopefully there is a solution to it that i just don't know of
Did you do anything unusual to get iGuidance 3.0.1 working? I keeps crashing on me on a fresh out of the box Tilt. Do you have it installed in main memory or on the storage card? I put it on the card and I'm wondering if that is my problem.
I knew about disconnecting the data, coming form an 8525 and an BT GPS
I'm suprised that 3.0.1 works on WM6, it closed abruptly on my 8525 (running Black Satin WM6) every time I touched any display button while actively navigating. Only the v4 worked solid for me. I personally don't miss the map loader since now the a single file contains the whole country including Hawaii, something you could never load except by itself due to some goofy NavTec contract issue. The v4 map is only 1.3 gig and 4gig micro SD's are now fairly available and reasonably priced.
I tried it and it took like 5 minutes to come up after clicking on the icon. Not good.
w4rmk said:
I tried it and it took like 5 minutes to come up after clicking on the icon. Not good.
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Read previous posts on this thread. Disconnect Data before booting it up and it should be fine.
chop69 said:
Did you do anything unusual to get iGuidance 3.0.1 working? I keeps crashing on me on a fresh out of the box Tilt. Do you have it installed in main memory or on the storage card? I put it on the card and I'm wondering if that is my problem.
I knew about disconnecting the data, coming form an 8525 and an BT GPS
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I didnt do anything special. I just loaded it up on the device (Storage card option) and went to town.
yeah i just loaded it on the device and put the map on the card. true about it only being 1.3gb but while i only have 2gb overall, until i get a new card.
kjones2k1 said:
I have iguidance v4, but I have a problem with the maps. Instructions tell me to load the map folder on my SD card, but I don't want to put 1.4GBs worth of maps when I only want 1 or 2 states for the time being. Is there any way to just load 1 state's map?
Ken
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IGuidance v.3 works great (and is, imo, the best gps software available) on AT&T Tilt. Version 4, because it is one continuous map (instead of individual state files) is an all or nothing install. If that is a problem, I have a nice almost-brand new version 3 that I would ever so happy to trade you for so you can load only the states you need. Let me know.
RemE said:
I'm suprised that 3.0.1 works on WM6, it closed abruptly on my 8525 (running Black Satin WM6) every time I touched any display button while actively navigating. Only the v4 worked solid for me. I personally don't miss the map loader since now the a single file contains the whole country including Hawaii, something you could never load except by itself due to some goofy NavTec contract issue. The v4 map is only 1.3 gig and 4gig micro SD's are now fairly available and reasonably priced.
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OK now I see the problems you are talking about. It starts up just fine and if I'm just using it to follow where I am (not navigating) it works fine, but if you tap the menu button to set a destination or try to pan the map, it locks up. This is on a freshly hard reset Tilt with nothing else installed at the moment. Program installed to main memory and the maps on SD.
OK I kind of found a solution (and maybe the reason why some people have it working.) The on screen keys will quit working after it goes into full screen mode. The solution unfortunately is going back to 3.0. That works for me because I don't use the spoken directions. I've seen over on gpspassion.com that 4.0 still has some bugs, so I will wait until they patch it to make the switch.
What did you guys do to get the GPS working? I just got my tilt today and I can't figure out how to get the GPS info working into iGuidance....any help would be awesome.
just make sure the gps settings in i guidance are set to port 4 with the 4800 baudrate. let me know if there are any problems.
p.s. make sure you mention your exchange server on the kaiser forum for those that didn't go from hermes to kaiser.
y2whisper said:
just make sure the gps settings in i guidance are set to port 4 with the 4800 baudrate. let me know if there are any problems.
p.s. make sure you mention your exchange server on the kaiser forum for those that didn't go from hermes to kaiser.
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Ya I finally got it to work. I had it set up like that, but the phone wasn't picking up satelites in my house...but when I went outside it started working.
I'll re-post another forum thread later today for Exchange in the Kaiser forum.

Kaiser and TomTom voice instruction cut-off issues

On a different thread I have been looking for a fix for a voice instruction problem where the voice 'cuts-off' before the end of the command.
I get 'After 200 yards...' but no more, when the command should be 'After 200 yards, turn left'.
So, I re-flashed my device (which was a Vodafone v1615, with Vodafone ROM) to the standard HTC ROM, and re-installed TomTom.
Same problem!
So, my question now is, how many other Kaiser users with TomTom suffer the same problem?
I'm really beginning to think this is an issue with the version of TomTom with internal GPS...
Any others have comments on this?
I have the same with my TomTom and every rom for Kaiser so I think it's the TT version. Doesn't make any difference if the voice is installed on device or microSD card.
never experienced this issue,
Do you have a legitimate copy of tom tom on your devices?
Hi,
I have the same TT voice problem: "after ..." then nothing !!!
I 've tried with Tomtom V6.00, 6.03 but I have the same problem.
My ppc phone is LG KS20 on WM6
+++ Important note: I used TT V6.00 with my old HTC S110 running on WM2003SE and I don't have this problem. But when I changed to KG KS20 (wm6), I get this probleme with the same maps, same version of tomtom (same installation: tt6ifalleni.cab). Tested with 2 maps v675.1409: FR_plus & Western_Europe -> same voice problem.
Please help !!!
I've read a couple threads where people complain about the voice not completing,and they indicated that the fix for them, if I remember correctly, was moving the voices to the main memory from the SD card.
Hi ewingr,
That was a post from me when I thought it had fixed the problem - it didn't, although it seemed to work for a while - hence the post...
Still looking for the fix!
Oh, and everything is legit - as supplied with the CD that came with the device, and the small 'town' map your area able to download for free.
Used to use a Qtek 9100 - with no problems!
ewingr said:
I've read a couple threads where people complain about the voice not completing,and they indicated that the fix for them, if I remember correctly, was moving the voices to the main memory from the SD card.
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All my voices are in the SD card. I tried also to put them in phone memory (/navigator/voices) and had always this problem. Voices are selected in TomTom but not completing !!!
Have now tried an older version of TomTom (6.030), and still have the same problem.
Also placed map and Navigator all in device memory, and still same problem...
What the %*!$ is going on???
How many other people are suffering this? Does no one have any other ideas I can try?
i had this problem too
i deleted these files, MapSettings.cfg, TMCCODES.DAT, TRAFFIC.DAT, TRAFFIC.INC (where u place ur map). then i reset tomtom back to default setting. and i still have same problems, then after 2 or 3 uses of tomtom in two days. Now it's back to normal. I use TT6.030.8320.
Hope this help. I thought iam the only one
TT6.01 is working perfectly for me, but i have problem recieving call while using TomTom. that's right, i switch to 6.03.
hi all. i am running TT 6.030 on my unbranded kaiser with no flaws whatsoever. the internal gps works a treat. its not the most legit copy going, anyone browsing mininova.org could find it. i have all the voices installed to the sd card, however i have never used any of the "supplied" voices. i use the john cleese voice which i also "found"
no tomtom voice problems with me either, and i also place my voice files in the sd card. as for the voice type, i use a knight rider one . you can find many more of these custom voices here
http://gps-data-team.com/pda-gps-navigation/links/index.php
Same voice cut-off problem on my At&T Tilt using TT Version 6.032 (8351)
Had to use that TT version because I could not install previous versions onto the device. That was the only version that would load.
Are any of the people that don't have the cut-off voice issues using an AT&T-branded device?
yup, i use a tilt
XtreMe_G said:
yup, i use a tilt
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what version of tt?
mbn said:
what version of tt?
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version 6.020
waichai, are you saying deleting those files fixed the problem?
eugene7 said:
waichai, are you saying deleting those files fixed the problem?
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for me, yeah, becuz i tried everything (all the tomtom version), but make sure u backup ur original file first, then u open start tomtom, tomtom will automatically create the new files for u.
I am running TT 6.032 and having no problems at all with the John Cleese voice. I did notice there were some problems with a few other voices I tried....Sean Connery, Naughty Natalie etc in that they would be cut off as they are taking too long and the instruction has passed due to speed and position...
I really don't believe it has anything to do with your ROM version.
waichai said:
for me, yeah, becuz i tried everything (all the tomtom version), but make sure u backup ur original file first, then u open start tomtom, tomtom will automatically create the new files for u.
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Same problems. TomTom Version 6.032, Map Western Europe v.675.1409. Original TyTN II. All legal. I saved the files you mentioned on my desktop. Restarted TomTom and so far it recreated the MapSettings.cfg and the traffic.inc. Not the traffic.dat or the tmccodes.dat though. Will use it tomorrow and see if it works again. Thanx for the help.

TomTom Autoruns Sometimes ... Any Solution

Greets,
I think someone once posted a possible solution to keep TomTom from starting up when you do a soft reset.
I have searched for that solution (including HOPING it was added to the TomTom string), but can't find it.
Does anyone know?
Thanks!
If you look on your storage card, I bet you have a folder called (IIRC) 2577.
This folder is the installation folder for TomTom and it will be run when you insert the memory card (and very likely, when you soft-reset).
If you have the folder, I suggest you rename to something different (maybe 'OLD_2577' or something like that?).
I think that will fix the problem.
yes
i've got the same problem.
i've deleted this folder and the problem is disappeared
I had this problem once.... actually after a soft reset it ran tomtom and also the installation of tomtom... very annoying....
In the end I think it came down to 2 files on the root of the memory card... one called "install.bif" and the second was called "tomtom.bif".. think these must be some sort of autorun files. as after I removed them... everything was sorted..
see if they are on your memory card...
GPS lags when trying to receive signal
When I first installed a cracked version of TOMTOM version 6.010 it worked great and receiving signal was fast. Now it takes forever to get satellite signal. Any suggestions guys? Thank you thank you
lamson said:
When I first installed a cracked version of TOMTOM version 6.010 it worked great and receiving signal was fast. Now it takes forever to get satellite signal. Any suggestions guys? Thank you thank you
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Could be your radio
lamson said:
When I first installed a cracked version of TOMTOM version 6.010 it worked great and receiving signal was fast. Now it takes forever to get satellite signal. Any suggestions guys? Thank you thank you
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Is your QuickGPS file current? I have mine set to autoupdate when necessary, but an error could have changed that setting so it only updates manually.
-Jay
I found it makes a huge difference with TomTom and Google Maps when I first turn on the HTC GPS Tool
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360477&highlight=HTC+GPS+Tool
I let it go for a couple of minutes, I make sure my QuickGPS is current, and then I turn on TomTom and it works great.

TOMTOM 6 Backlight issue

Oki here we go again. I have been looking for backlight fix of TomTom 6. I did find a link from the forum ages ago but now I can't find it.
I have installed C_Shekar new 6.1 Rom and installed my TomTom on it. When running tomtom the backlight switches off and I cannot see anything on the screen. Someone pointed (ages ago) that WM5 has issues with it and he gave me the fix for it which was working fine uptill now. I have tried the fix error message cab file from the forum as well but no luck. I think I need to edit the registry file for TomTom from backlight to bbcklight or something.
Now when I run TomTom with backlight fix it gives the following error message:
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The file 'TomTom Navigator' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. If the problem presists, try reinstalling or restoring the file.
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Please help!
Regards
Jay
Oki I found another TomTom version which is working just fine.
Great news
Just a quick question... which version of Tomtom are you using that has fixed this issue? There seem to be different opinions about which one is best...
6.100
6.032
6.030
6.020
6.010
Do you ever get a "jerking" problem where the position goes forward and backward along the same road as you move (instead of moving forward smoothly?).
Thanks.
gomango said:
Just a quick question... which version of Tomtom are you using that has fixed this issue? There seem to be different opinions about which one is best...
6.100
6.032
6.030
6.020
6.010
Do you ever get a "jerking" problem where the position goes forward and backward along the same road as you move (instead of moving forward smoothly?).
Thanks.
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Afternoon! I am not sure what version of tomtom it is exactly as it doesn't say on the file I downloaded. All it says it is "TNT2007" and nothing else. I have tried to check its settings from within TOMTOM but I was unable to find the version number.
Yes! there is a "jerking" problem, it did it when I went to France from UK through a road trip and it was getting stuck in Paris. It didn't find the most important places like "Eiffel Tower, Champs Elyees" even though I setup POI's, tried manually entering the name and still nothing. I wonder how POI's work in this software.
anyways all things aside, if you want the file I can upload it here and you can download it and try it out?
Regards
Jay
I'm using TT too, (Version 6.200, to find out: tap screen, settings, GPS Status lower right corner) and i have the same Problem. someone who kwnows how to solve?
My workaround: press call answering, start, settings, system, Lights, battery tap twice on checkbox, close... back to TT and lights on...
It seems that TT forces the Lights-settings...
Greetings, Camaelion
btw: sorry for my bad english, i'm german ;o)
jaytheguru said:
Afternoon! I am not sure what version of tomtom it is exactly as it doesn't say on the file I downloaded. All it says it is "TNT2007" and nothing else. I have tried to check its settings from within TOMTOM but I was unable to find the version number.
Yes! there is a "jerking" problem, it did it when I went to France from UK through a road trip and it was getting stuck in Paris. It didn't find the most important places like "Eiffel Tower, Champs Elyees" even though I setup POI's, tried manually entering the name and still nothing. I wonder how POI's work in this software.
anyways all things aside, if you want the file I can upload it here and you can download it and try it out?
Regards
Jay
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To find your version of TomTom open the software and tap the GPS signal strength meter in the bottom right corner. Your version will be displayed in a white box in the lower right corner. I am using version 6.010 on an AT&T Tilt using the latest stock ROM minus the bloatware. I have little issue with how the screen scrolls, it is a lot better than my old iPAQ.
To be able to find POI's you need 2 things, a map, and a list of POI's. You don't always get a complete list of POI's with the map. If I was traveling out of the country I would make sure I had all the proper maps, and POI files before I left home.
-Jay
Camaelion said:
I'm using TT too, (Version 6.200, to find out: tap screen, settings, GPS Status lower right corner) and i have the same Problem. someone who kwnows how to solve?
My workaround: press call answering, start, settings, system, Lights, battery tap twice on checkbox, close... back to TT and lights on...
It seems that TT forces the Lights-settings...
Greetings, Camaelion
btw: sorry for my bad english, i'm german ;o)
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I used to tap the red end key on my old iPAQ to minimize TomTom... I think the green key brought up the dialpad.
-Jay
The best solution is using a hex editor to open the exe file under tomtom folder.
Search for Backlight and replace the 'a' to 'b', becomes Bbcklight.
Save and replace the original exe file.
Sounds a ridiculous way but it does work for all versions.
Suggestions
Hi Jay,
Sorry for taking so long to reply to your suggestion - work has been getting the better of me.
I've now trialled a number of different versions of tomtom and I believe the best one for this ROM is v6.032 build 8351.
Try googling "tomtom 6.032 torrent".
In terms of jerky and slow screen updates I've found a major improvement by backing up my SD card, re-formatting it (full formatting, not quick formatting) and then copying the map back first, and then everything else that was on it. It seems that my SD card was fragmented and defragging it made a massive difference. I didn't believe it would when I first read about it on another forum, but it really works!
I've also found a slight improvement by overclocking the CPU using the program XCPU Scaler v3.03. It runs tomtom at 472mhz. Not as big an improvement as the SD card trick, but still a small improvement.
I still think that tomtom performance was better under wm5 AKU2.3 (and even wm2003se) but we get quite a few more features with wm6.1.
I now have no backlight or other issues.
I hope that helps.
mtom
i have 2 phones one with wm6.1 and one with wm6.0 will tomtom woke on the 6.0 already have it on 6.1and works good

TomTom brakes WM6 Installation on Kaiser.

My TYTN II has been rendered half-working for a second time. Both times this happened after Tom Tom was installed.
I have 4 GB SD Card. I use TomTom by copying all files/directories from the TomTom provided MicroSD card to the root of my 4 GB SD card. There are also other directories ( i.e Program Files ) in the root of the SD card.
The first time it broke , I simply run the TomTom Update function from within TomTom. It downloaded an update , installed it and then broke the device/Windows Media installation.
When it “brakes” the Windows Media 6 installation , it renders the mobile OS half working. The buttons on the side - TurnOff/On and Camera buttons - stop working. The device itself becomes very slows – it takes 2 secs to go into Programs. The camera application starts but then nothing happens when you tap the on-screen functions /buttons. , The device will not rotate the screen when using the external keyboard , TomTom stops starting at all.
The second time TomTom broke my device was after simply starting TomTom – it hung and after a soft reset my device was left in the same state.
Device:
HTC TYTN II Kaiser / Vario III
ROM ver 1.56.110.4
Windows Mobile 6
TomTom ver 6.010.
try intsalling tomtom 6.030 which can be found in the kaiser wiki. I have that installed on my kaiser and have no problems, then just copy the maps you want over to your storage card.
good luck.
fone_fanatic said:
try intsalling tomtom 6.030 which can be found in the kaiser wiki. I have that installed on my kaiser and have no problems, then just copy the maps you want over to your storage card.
good luck.
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I am not sure where I can get the latest version from ! I don't have any TomTom versions on my Kaiser CD and I didn't find any updates downloads on tomtom.com. Tomtom Home is saying may device doesn't need updates.
The only thing i can re-try is to reinstall the whole device and then run update from within TomTom but then this broke the device once already ..
Tom Tom,
3uk said:
I am not sure where I can get the latest version from ! I don't have any TomTom versions on my Kaiser CD and I didn't find any updates downloads on tomtom.com. Tomtom Home is saying may device doesn't need updates.
The only thing i can re-try is to reinstall the whole device and then run update from within TomTom but then this broke the device once already ..
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Try using a torrent or p2p... Im running a recent copy without a problem, make sure its a recent build, also i found works better if you assign the gps the microsoft bluetooth gps serial port and reshared to tomtom with that
Don't install from a cab file. Download TTN 6.020 from here
http://rapidshare.com/files/91282009/TTN_6.02.7910.zip.html
copy to your device and run TomTom from there.
This is also the only ver. that doesn't have voice problems on my device.
blagoy said:
Don't install from a cab file. Download TTN 6.020 from here
http://rapidshare.com/files/91282009/TTN_6.02.7910.zip.html
copy to your device and run TomTom from there.
This is also the only ver. that doesn't have voice problems on my device.
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I will try although I have always been wary of running exes from the internet on my Windows Box be it mobile or not.
Anyway , it turns out the problem is not specifically within TomTom 6.010 but has to do with the fact that I am running another app , a dictionary, besides TomTom. After uninstalling the the App , the device works fine.
I am very angry with TomTom support though , whose response was , as expected - "TomTom works on the Manufacturer provided 1 GB SD card - use it from there. If you have problems call HTC" .
[email protected] Fflippers TOMTOM , IF YOU MAKE SOFTWARE FOR PDA DON'T ASSUME THE MICROSD CARD WILL HOLD ONLY YOUR STUPID TOMTOM SOFTWARE and NOT OTHER SOFTWARE. MoNKEYS !

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