Ok, try not to flame me before reading the whole post. Thanks.
I have a Tilt and I set it up to sync w/ my work Exchange server via Active Sync. That is working wonderfully, however it prompts me for a 4 digit password every 20 minutes. It does this while docked at my computer. This is stupid. I know the reason is for security, yadda, yadda, yadda.
However, I previously had a work-issues blackberry. When tethered (or not, even) it NEVER asked me for a password.
So what's the real use of the password being entered every 20 minutes? I can't see any. So, what I want to know, is there some sort of program that can cause whatever activity is required to delay the "20 minute inactivity" setting?
I mean, entering the password 24+ a day is stupid when I never had to do that from my blackberry.
thanks.
Robert
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279073&highlight=stayunlock
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Folks,
I've done a TON of searching, here and elsewhere, and have yet to find a good answer here.
Logging into Comcast POP takes FOREVER from a Windows Mobile device, due to some sort of issue with SSL where even though the checkbox saying "use SSL" is unchecked, Comcast wants to use SSL but can't... etc.
It takes a good couple MINUTES just to connect and log in. Once logged in it all goes fine.
Under WM5, there was a "ForceOffSSL" registry entry that was a partial solution - it forced off SSL for all POP servers, but that was better than nothing. It doesn't work under WM6.
There must be a lot of people here with Comcast - how do you get your mail? I'd like to check every 5 minutes, but with the current situation my phone would be spending ALL its time negotiating with Comcast.
Ideas? I've already tried the registry entry, I've already tried appending :110 and :25 to the servernames. No love.
*bumpity!*
Hey Guys,
I have an issue (not really an issue, but would like some information)
I currently have my phone setup with my work email via microsoft exchange setup through the phone. Now i'm assuming that the certificate that my company uses, requires me to have a password lock on my phone for security purposes. It initiates the password when the phone is not in use for more than 20 minutes. This drives me INSANE! i always have to type in a 4 digit "simple pin" to unlock my phone if i haven't touched it for 20 minutes.
How can i disable this? The menu which i have to setup the pin # doesn't allow me to uncheck enable.
Is there another certificate i can use which doesn't require me to lock the phone?
My friend works for a different company, and uses the same method for email, and i guess their company isn't secure as she doesn't have to use a security pin at all.
Any help would definitely be appreciated!
Thank Guys!/Girls!
I know that having a password forced on you, when you didn't have one before, can be really annoying at first. However, after a bit of time it just becomes normal and isn't really an issue. You are talking a trade off of 2-3 seconds vs. free access to confidential company data/files.
When you first connect to an Exchange 2007 (guessing this is what's being used) system it prompts the phone to make the changes (accept), you don' t have a choice. As you mentioned, having the password feature is "secure" compared to your friends company that "isn't secure". Enterprise users should have passwords enabled. Wanting to bypass it kinda smacks of not caring about your employers rules/policies, security and ultimately others who work at your company.
I know in our environment it would be a violation of company policy and a clear and deliberate breach of it, turning off a security feature. You would be speaking to the IT Manager and Human Resources as soon as caught about your future or lack thereof.
Damn.... i guess your right!
Thanks for the input!
If you do a search you will find a fix which will essentially push the timeout to 24 hours versus the 5-10 minutes that is given normally. This ensures the lock is still present (especially for rebooting and activesynch connect) but you only get bugged to do it every once in a while.
Just search around - you'll find it (I recently changed my registry to have a 24 hr time out.) This is something that Exchange does not check when you synch. If the password is removed then you will get dinged by your admin sooner or later.
jessiethe3rd said:
If you do a search you will find a fix which will essentially push the timeout to 24 hours versus the 5-10 minutes that is given normally. This ensures the lock is still present (especially for rebooting and activesynch connect) but you only get bugged to do it every once in a while.
Just search around - you'll find it (I recently changed my registry to have a 24 hr time out.) This is something that Exchange does not check when you synch. If the password is removed then you will get dinged by your admin sooner or later.
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agh... wtf do i search? lol
oh boy, the adventure begins! wish me luck!
ok i think i got it!
the only stuff i could find was to disable it permanantly... nothing regarding changing it to 24 hours.
mightymike84 said:
ok i think i got it!
the only stuff i could find was to disable it permanantly... nothing regarding changing it to 24 hours.
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nevermind.
i did the following:
HKLM/Security/Policies/Policies/00001023 to value 1
changed that reg entry, and instead of disabling the lock, it actually displayed a 24 hour option, so i chose that instead of disabling it.
thanks for the help guys!
Keep in mind that you really dismiss your company's policy. This might be the cause of serious legal problems.
Furthermore, the device will recheck the policy after some hours, iirc the standard is to check every 24hours
Have fun!
mightymike84 said:
nevermind.
i did the following:
HKLM/Security/Policies/Policies/00001023 to value 1
changed that reg entry, and instead of disabling the lock, it actually displayed a 24 hour option, so i chose that instead of disabling it.
thanks for the help guys!
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Just what I was looking for The other option was to turn on the phone regularly before the Password timeout
tugboat said:
Just what I was looking for The other option was to turn on the phone regularly before the Password timeout
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And should your problem return (as your server will probably reinforce it´s policy), have a look at this page: http://www.zenyee.com/?s=stay+unlock
This great tool has been working fine for me on all my WM5/6/6.1 devices....
So I have had the ATT Tilt for a few months now. I love it, it does everything I need, how ever a few things are driving me insane about the phone. Please help figure these out.
btw I upgraded to WM 6.1, everything was fine for about 2 weeks and now it is acting up.
1) I know this isnt related to windows mobile upgrade, but when I send a text, is there any way to stop it from notifying me "message sent" alert?
2) This started to happen this past week and has never done it before. I have the device setup to check my att mail. Everything is fine, downloads messages, but when trying to send a message, it tells me "The message(s) could not be sent. Check that you have network coverage and your account information is correct. Then try sending again"
Like I said, everything was fine, until this past week. Never changed any settings, I have a strong 3g signal and I am connected to my home WiFi. If I disconnect from WiFi, it doesnt matter and I still get that error message.
3) When turning the screen display on, sometimes it turns on then off real quick. Its fine if I try it again and is only a fraction of a second, but when it does it 5 times a day, it gets annoying.
4) This is a big one that I cant stand. Every 10 minutes it tells me "you have such and such messages unread" notification. Granted there might be some email that is unread and I understand it, but how do I disable those notifications from popping up all the time??
One more question and it is a bit off topic. Help me understand how a ROM works. If I install a new ROM, that doesnt get rid of WM6.1 but more changes the interface of the pda right? If I change the ROM, will I still have all my normal functions of the pda? (camera, 3g, calender, etc....) Please help me understand how it works and what would be the most stable ROM.
Thanks everyone!
Sounds like someone needs to look at KaiserTweak for at least one problem.
The ROM is everything. It's windows, it's the software on it, the addons.. ALL OF IT. Of course you can add to it yourself but it's everything that you had on your phone when you turned it on after a flash. If there was no ROM at all you would just have empty memory on your phone.
I'm sure someone will have something more scientific to say but thats really all you need to know about that.
ChumleyEX said:
Sounds like someone needs to look at KaiserTweak for at least one problem.
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I couldn't agree more.....
Here is another link for your reading pleasures......
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
bhaz413 said:
2) This started to happen this past week and has never done it before. I have the device setup to check my att mail. Everything is fine, downloads messages, but when trying to send a message, it tells me "The message(s) could not be sent. Check that you have network coverage and your account information is correct. Then try sending again"
Like I said, everything was fine, until this past week. Never changed any settings, I have a strong 3g signal and I am connected to my home WiFi. If I disconnect from WiFi, it doesnt matter and I still get that error message.
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What are you using for your smtp server? cwmx.com? If so, that server is notoriously unreliable and has been known to be down for a couple of days. I experienced my last straw several months ago and since then, I have been using my ISP's smtp server (my ISP allows this; not all ISPs do).
Having stated that, though, on a few occasions I had solved the problem by simply deleting the account on my phone and re-setting it up. On those occasions, cwmx was fine; it was just something with my account setup on the phone. Like you, nothing was changed by me, but obviously something got corrupted/damaged somewhere.
My recommendation to you is to use your ISP's smtp server and if you are unable to do so, then try deleting and re-setting up the account on your phone.
I have the same problem with sending emails.
Its not the smtp server, it does not matter what SMTP server it was, but its WM6 itself.
The only way I know to solve it is to delete the email account, and enter everything again. Which is a nuisance because you have to type the email that you wanted to send, all over again.
this looks promising, I am giving it a try once I get home.
Do report as well if you can get it to work.
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2008/10/15/windows-mobile-smtp-fix
Hey guys, I've been lurking around the forums for a while, (rooted my G1 the day I got it, thanks guys!)
Before my G1, I had a blackberry, with "push email". It seemed cool, I could send an email to my blackberry address, and get it in seconds. It might have taken longer, I just didn't realize it because I had no web-access to my blackberry address.
Now, with the G1, I get that you have control over whether or not your gmail syncs (seems to be every 5 minutes), but I keep hearing about "push gmail", suggesting that gmail sends a token to your phone telling it you have new gmail.
This doesn't seem to be the case, because my phone doesn't tell me I have new gmail until it "syncs" again.
Do I just have an idiotic fantasy-land idea about "push technology"? Is the ability to have your cell phone's gmail app check for new mail every 5 minutes what they mean when they say "push"?
Because if my mail client still has to check every 5 minutes, that still sounds like "pull".
Not trying to start any arguments, android is awesome!
umaro said:
Hey guys, I've been lurking around the forums for a while, (rooted my G1 the day I got it, thanks guys!)
Before my G1, I had a blackberry, with "push email". It seemed cool, I could send an email to my blackberry address, and get it in seconds. It might have taken longer, I just didn't realize it because I had no web-access to my blackberry address.
Now, with the G1, I get that you have control over whether or not your gmail syncs (seems to be every 5 minutes), but I keep hearing about "push gmail", suggesting that gmail sends a token to your phone telling it you have new gmail.
This doesn't seem to be the case, because my phone doesn't tell me I have new gmail until it "syncs" again.
Do I just have an idiotic fantasy-land idea about "push technology"? Is the ability to have your cell phone's gmail app check for new mail every 5 minutes what they mean when they say "push"?
Because if my mail client still has to check every 5 minutes, that still sounds like "pull".
Not trying to start any arguments, android is awesome!
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Try Seven. It's the best that I can think of at the moment.
http://community.seven.com/main.php
Gmail is push. Check Settings --> Data Synchronization. Note that there is NO time setting. Check Gmail --> Settings --> Labels. Note that the ONLY time setting is in DAYS, which indicates the time period over which you should have sync, i.e., things older than X days won't sync (though they WILL download.
Also note: If your network connection drops, then the connection with the gmail server is broken and push email will be broken until the connection can be re-established. Naturally, you don't want the thing to keep on trying over and over again (draining your battery) to make a connection when it isn't available, so it just tries every once in a while. Once the connection with the gmail server is back, THEN push comes back.
For example, I have no data plan since in canada it just costs so much that it simply isn't worth it -- which means that all my data goes over wifi. In order to conserve battery, I have it set to turn wifi OFF when it is both unplugged AND screen off. During this time, it obviously doesn't get push email. When the connection comes back, it may take a little while before it logs back in to gmail and restarts synchronization. If it is already signed in, then email delivery is literally within a couple of seconds.
Note: it signs in upon forced synchronization (manual or periodic), which is why you observe that email is delivered only after a synchronization. It doesn't synchronize unless it is either disconnected, or you initiate a manual forced synchronization.
Email is pull. This is a separate app from gmail and should not be confused. This would have the option under Account Settings --> Email check frequency.
If you want non-GMAIL push email, I suggest k9mail BETA. It does, of course, have the same limitations as the gmail app in that it can't synchronize unless there is a network connection present.
umaro said:
Hey guys, I've been lurking around the forums for a while, (rooted my G1 the day I got it, thanks guys!)
Before my G1, I had a blackberry, with "push email". It seemed cool, I could send an email to my blackberry address, and get it in seconds. It might have taken longer, I just didn't realize it because I had no web-access to my blackberry address.
Now, with the G1, I get that you have control over whether or not your gmail syncs (seems to be every 5 minutes), but I keep hearing about "push gmail", suggesting that gmail sends a token to your phone telling it you have new gmail.
This doesn't seem to be the case, because my phone doesn't tell me I have new gmail until it "syncs" again.
Do I just have an idiotic fantasy-land idea about "push technology"? Is the ability to have your cell phone's gmail app check for new mail every 5 minutes what they mean when they say "push"?
Because if my mail client still has to check every 5 minutes, that still sounds like "pull".
Not trying to start any arguments, android is awesome!
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Up until recently, the corporation I work for only authorized blackberry devices to sync with the exchange servers. They've just recently started allowing iPhones and certain android devices to do the same.
On the corp intranet page that deals with this it explains that once you setup activesync a phone lock passcode is required, screen timeout of less than 15min is required, and 5 incorrect passcode attempts, lost/stolen, or something like leaving the company will result in a wipe that will affect non work related data loss as well. The next sentence then says that if it can't be wiped remotely it is the employee's responsibility to do so.
I don't know if some of that wording is from the blackberry only days or what.
If I were to go ahead and get authorization for this, would setting up an activesync with the corporation exchange server really allow them to wipe my phone, including personal data? Would it really make my phone require a passcode and limit my screen timeout all by just syncing?
I just don't know what kind of control simply setting up an activesync account is really possible.
I hate using our web access bc it requires and id and 2 passwords and even though I can use lastpass to make that easier its still slow/inconvenient.
I don't want to ask IT about all this bc I don't want them to think I'm trying to get around the system or give me an incorrect answer (fortune 100 company, they deal with a lot and don't know everything about everything ).
One of the features introduced in Froyo with Exchange/ActiveSync support was remote wipe. I believe they'll have no problem wiping your phone, unless you disconnect that account first.
Jack_R1 said:
One of the features introduced in Froyo with Exchange/ActiveSync support was remote wipe. I believe they'll have no problem wiping your phone, unless you disconnect that account first.
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I'm actually less concerned with wiping than I am with being forced (by that I mean them somehow enforcing my settings such that I can't make my screen timeout longer than 15min or have to use a passcode to come out of sleep). I've never lost a phone and am willing to deal with consequences of not having a damn unlock code. I just don't want my phone to be locked into particular settings. Hope that makes sense.