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Automatic powerups of Wizard on crossbow

Hi, I have discovered that Direct Push e-mail is causing the wizard to power on at certain intervals and for me at least was causing significant power drains under crossbow. Here are 2 fixes.
1. This is for those that use an exchange server and/or direct push email.
-Locking the device stops the wizard powering on and still allows use of direct push email.
2. Those that don't wish to lock their device and don't use direct push email.
-Change the following Registry values:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\ActiveSync\
HeartbeatIncrement DWORD: 0
InitialHeartbeat DWORD: 0
MinHeartbeat DWORD: 0
MaxHeartbeat DWORD: 0
Reset
Hopefully this will work for you guys it did for me, no power on all night.
EDIT: Sorry after longer testing No. 2 appears not to work however I still think it has something to do with Activesync and Direct Push E-mail. The settings reset themselves after soft reset.

It works!
Confirmed. Locking the device via the Today screen plug-in prevents the undesired power ups.
I am using a small program called Device Lock with the Suspend option. I set Button 4(Hold) to Device Lock. Sometimes it wakes up immediately after suspending, but I can press the power button and it stays off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=261277

I discovered this yesterday also.
He means using the today screen plugin to lock it, not just having buttons locked except power in case you weren't aware of that.

No wonder I never had this problem. I use batterystatus to lock my screen all the time. Isn't the lock nice? Very convinent. My only hope is if there is anyway to unlock it with one hard button.

Oh. I was using the Lock in the control panel set to lock after 0 minutes of idle so when I pressed power it would power down and lock.
I'll have to find a better way to lock.

it didnt work....

Malik05 said:
it didnt work....
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using the batterystatus, not the lock in the control panel.

i meant the regedits, it didnt fix the problem...i dont like to lock my phone when not in my pocket...

i hit the lock button on the today screen and i watch it turn on and off every minute... still... it didn't help ...

I wonder how did faria fix it in his ROM.

any update? wokring solution ?

Faria has the only known solution to this but is refusing to share that knowledge by looks of things, maybe so he can forces users to use his own cooked ROM or something...

the only working solution i have seen was the one rusigor suggested and that was taking the device password off. and im believer because it worked for me. so im sticking with that. Also i noticed that my battery is lasting like alot lot lot lot lot lot lot longer now. before i would go to bed with the phone at 80% battery and when i would wake up it would be like at 30. The last couple nights i would go to bed with it at 59 and woke up and it was at 55. I was shocked. so thats why im sticking with this method.

neonkoala said:
Faria has the only known solution to this but is refusing to share that knowledge by looks of things, maybe so he can forces users to use his own cooked ROM or something...
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I hope it's just a case of him not knowing of this thread! Has anyone PM'd him?
I will if no one has yet.
Karl

Sorry meant to update this, fix has been around for a little while now.
Untick Turn off backlight for both battery and mains power and this will cure the problem however you may still have automatic power offs.

I don't use push, nor do I have an Exchange server configured. I also had a problem with automatic power-ups. I found that having the device configured to display the owner info screen when it is switched on caused it to power up on its own shortly after it was switched off.
Getting rid of the owner info display on power-up did the trick for me.
I'd love to know how those two things are connected.

I found a solution for me
I also think is more related with the screen light as I used the WM6 MB and i put the screen auto off after 30 sec, and it was waking up very frequently. I completly removed the screen light auto off and now my phone never wakes up alone (just when it should be =D).
Hope it helps!

Screen Turning Off During Calls?

I just got my Kaiser and am playing with it and noticed one annoying thing so far.
The screen will turn off during a call and I have to hit the "power" button to get it to come back on.
Is this normal? This is the first PPC Phone that does that to me and I haven't been able to figure out what program to adjust to make it stop behaving like that.
Thanks!

I have read about this at 2 other places. It's a feature I think and it's 'solved' by using the scroll button untill the screen gets dark again

jamng said:
I just got my Kaiser and am playing with it and noticed one annoying thing so far.
The screen will turn off during a call and I have to hit the "power" button to get it to come back on.
Is this normal? This is the first PPC Phone that does that to me and I haven't been able to figure out what program to adjust to make it stop behaving like that.
Thanks!
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You need to change the backlight settings.

I've adjusted it, but the backlight doesn't dim. The screen goes out entirely and you have to use the power button for it to come back on.
Normally when the backlight dims, touching any part of the screen will resume the normal brightness. When this blanks the touchscreen is "off".
sherpa said:
You need to change the backlight settings.
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jamng said:
I've adjusted it, but the backlight doesn't dim. The screen goes out entirely and you have to use the power button for it to come back on.
Normally when the backlight dims, touching any part of the screen will resume the normal brightness. When this blanks the touchscreen is "off".
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from what ive read it seems to be a feature to save battery life and keep you from accidentally pressing buttons on the touchscreen with your ear. i dunno if there is a way to shut it off though

I can see how it would prevent me from messing with the keys and all that. It's fine when I'm on the call, but its annoying when I listen to my voicemail and then go to hit keys to do something and realize I need to hit the power button first .
XSIVSPD said:
from what ive read it seems to be a feature to save battery life and keep you from accidentally pressing buttons on the touchscreen with your ear. i dunno if there is a way to shut it off though
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jamng said:
I've adjusted it, but the backlight doesn't dim. The screen goes out entirely and you have to use the power button for it to come back on.
Normally when the backlight dims, touching any part of the screen will resume the normal brightness. When this blanks the touchscreen is "off".
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Then check your Power settings.

This is a known bug...
Hopefully HTC will be addressing this issue - for those experiencing it, no backlight, power, or software app, or any other settings have been discovered (as of yet) to eliminate it.
R

jamng said:
I can see how it would prevent me from messing with the keys and all that. It's fine when I'm on the call, but its annoying when I listen to my voicemail and then go to hit keys to do something and realize I need to hit the power button first .
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FYI: I found that modifying the DWORD stored in:
Code:
\HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL\EnableFastDormantDisplayDuringCall
from "1" to "0" will leave the screen on long enough for voicemail use (probably falling back to the backlight/power settings)...

AlD044 said:
FYI: I found that modifying the DWORD stored in:
Code:
\HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL\EnableFastDormantDisplayDuringCall
from "1" to "0" will leave the screen on long enough for voicemail use (probably falling back to the backlight/power settings)...
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good catch!

Woohoo! Thx!

Nice work! I tweaked the reg and it didn't seem to work, I powered the phone OFF and then it worked like a charm, Thanks!

Worked Perfect!!!
Thx!!!

Is there a registy hack to NOT DIM the light out when key-locking the device?

thank you sir ald044

ROOSH315 said:
Is there a registy hack to NOT DIM the light out when key-locking the device?
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Kind of.
\HKCU\ControlPanel\BackLight\LockLevel\
Change LockLevel to what ever value you want the backlight set to when your device is locked.

Jason Lee said:
Kind of.
\HKCU\ControlPanel\BackLight\LockLevel\
Change LockLevel to what ever value you want the backlight set to when your device is locked.
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Thanks Jason,
I tried that before and when I change the value to "1", it completely dims out my phone and I haven't even locked it. Any suggestions?

ROOSH315 said:
Thanks Jason,
I tried that before and when I change the value to "1", it completely dims out my phone and I haven't even locked it. Any suggestions?
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try 4. That should be 4 notches up on the backlight slider in the control panel.

AlD044 said:
FYI: I found that modifying the DWORD stored in:
Code:
\HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL\EnableFastDormantDisplayDuringCall
from "1" to "0" will leave the screen on long enough for voicemail use (probably falling back to the backlight/power settings)...
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And may I ask how one accomplishes this? I have no idea how to edit the REG in Windows mobile.
Thanks!!

Do a search for PHMregedit, it's a good, free, mobile editor.

I do not understand the screen turn off. Hoping you guys could help?

So i just got the Tilt last week. Been using it every day and would say that I am in pretty good understanding of how it works.
My understanding:
Screen dim is set to 10seconds - Meaning after 10 seconds of no use screen will dim (wont be as bright) this works perfectly every time
"Turn off divice if not usef for 1min" - From my understanding it should turn off the screen after 1 minute of no use and shouldnt come on unless I press the power button on the right.
This is where I am having issues. It wont turn the screen off.. it just stays at dimmed.
First let me explain how i have the phone set up since I think it has something to do with that.
I use it for phone calls, email (through Exchange), and text messaging.
Ive tested it a couple times and the screen turns off just fine if I have direct push (email feature) turned off in the Comm Manager.
However with the Direct push ON it seems to not wanna turn off... just dims.
At first I thought... well maybe it cant get email pushed to it if its turned off... but nope, if I manually turn the screen off (by pressing the side button).. and email myself.. sure enough the phone comes out of the turn off state and tells me I got an email... same deal with texts.
So I am dumbfounded. What is not letting it turn off the screen? The only thing that is running in tast manager is ActiveSync.
Thanks in advance for any help

Where do you leave your 400$+ device that it is unattended for over a minute? Mine is out, on, check mail, off, back in pocket.

it has nothing to do with being unattended... i just feel like i should be able to..
Pick it up -> Turn on -> Glance for new emails -> Put it back down.
Without having to turn off the screen every time... seems like it should do that on its own.. otherwise it would be kind of pointless to have that auto turn off after 1 min function.. right?
So... since that function is there.. and its not doing it.. that means something is wrong. so im trying to figure out what is wrong.

It could be a lot of factors so its going to be time consuming to find the exact cause of the problem. Not sure if your willing to hard reset the device to attempt troubleshooting from a hard reset with no other programs installed to rule out the ROM itself your using or if its third party software or possibly other changes/tweaks you might have made.
I know it works as it should for me with the Q-Mobile 1.2 ROM. Both the dimming and device power off setting work fine. And I have Push email enabled so activesync is always connected.

tyeo098 said:
Where do you leave your 400$+ device that it is unattended for over a minute? Mine is out, on, check mail, off, back in pocket.
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Some of us have a life...
I have the same issue... stock ATT rom, with lots of stuff on it. I'm pretty accustomed to using the power button to turn off the screen when I'm done. All 3 tilts I've had have this issue. I know it also happened running the stock HTC rom.
I am interested in a solution if anyone has any ideas.

I believe I had the same problem. There are two places to change the dim settings. One setting is under:
Settings\Systems\Power\Advance
Another is under:
Settings\System\Backlight\BatteryPower.
At that point I would make sure all these numbers match up that way you know it will dim and shut off at the correct time. One time is to dim, the other is to shut the screen off. Hope were talking about he same problem, and see if that helps.

Punker1234 said:
I believe I had the same problem. There are two places to change the dim settings. One setting is under:
Settings\Systems\Power\Advance
Another is under:
Settings\System\Backlight\BatteryPower.
At that point I would make sure all these numbers match up that way you know it will dim and shut off at the correct time. One time is to dim, the other is to shut the screen off. Hope were talking about he same problem, and see if that helps.
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This works for me, I set them all the same and the screen dims and turns off.
Thanks much!

xconradx said:
This works for me, I set them all the same and the screen dims and turns off.
Thanks much!
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Welcome. I had the same trouble, as I was irritated that the screen would shut off at 1 minute. Sometimes programs or installations take longer then that and with Wifi it can disconnect. Glad I could help.

The problem is related to Activesync and Exchange direct push.
I had the same problem. As long as Activesync is connected to Exchange the phone does not enter standby.
Try disabling direct push and kill activesync and then see if it works.
I had to configure activesync to check for mail every 30mins instead of direct push to work around the problem.
If anybody has direct push and standby working please let me know. I'm sick of this workaround.
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Titan00

titan00 said:
The problem is related to Activesync and Exchange direct push.
I had the same problem. As long as Activesync is connected to Exchange the phone does not enter standby.
Try disabling direct push and kill activesync and then see if it works.
I had to configure activesync to check for mail every 30mins instead of direct push to work around the problem.
If anybody has direct push and standby working please let me know. I'm sick of this workaround.
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Excellent.. changing the setting in both of the places mentioned above to 1minute fixed the issue.. now i have direct push and active sync on.. and it turns off after 1 min yay

Just curious, anyone have any problems with their screens turning back on after being off? I'm pretty sure this is related to my check email interval. Its not a problem for me anymore since I've been using slide2unlock, but before then Id pull my device out and all kinds of programs would be running...but I still get awakened in the middle of the night by a bright screen if I do not put my phone face down on my nightstand.

titan00 said:
The problem is related to Activesync and Exchange direct push.
I had the same problem. As long as Activesync is connected to Exchange the phone does not enter standby.
Try disabling direct push and kill activesync and then see if it works.
I had to configure activesync to check for mail every 30mins instead of direct push to work around the problem.
If anybody has direct push and standby working please let me know. I'm sick of this workaround.
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No problems here. I'm using my own ROM however.

ajmoncrief said:
Just curious, anyone have any problems with their screens turning back on after being off? I'm pretty sure this is related to my check email interval. Its not a problem for me anymore since I've been using slide2unlock, but before then Id pull my device out and all kinds of programs would be running...but I still get awakened in the middle of the night by a bright screen if I do not put my phone face down on my nightstand.
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I've had that. Mine's related to SPB backup which runs at 3AM. Also, pressing any key brings this device out of standby as opposed to my Hermes where only the power button would do this. I don't really like this "feature" much as I now need to have keylock enabled to keep the phone from waking up.

Sleuth255 said:
I've had that. Mine's related to SPB backup which runs at 3AM. Also, pressing any key brings this device out of standby as opposed to my Hermes where only the power button would do this. I don't really like this "feature" much as I now need to have keylock enabled to keep the phone from waking up.
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Hi:
I hope I understood your issue correctly.
If you want phone to ONLY wake when you push the power button, you need to go to Start/Settings/System/KeyLock There, select the first option, which is lock all buttons except power button.

titan00 said:
If anybody has direct push and standby working please let me know. I'm sick of this workaround.
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As stated in my previous post I have Direct Push and Standby works correctly for me. I'm using the Q-Mobile 1.2 ROM.

Chrushev said:
Excellent.. changing the setting in both of the places mentioned above to 1minute fixed the issue.. now i have direct push and active sync on.. and it turns off after 1 min yay
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PsyOpWarlord said:
As stated in my previous post I have Direct Push and Standby works correctly for me. I'm using the Q-Mobile 1.2 ROM.
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That is really strange. I'm using Dutty V3 and just tried activating Direct push. Setting Backlight and power timeout to one minute. After leaving the device for one minute the screen dims but does not enter standby.
If I kill activesync it does enter standby but Direct push stops working.
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Devicelock without return to Today screen?

tI use the standard device lock that comes with WM.
However, it goes back to Today screen everytime after lock.
Can anyone tell me how to stay at the original screen after lock?
Thanks

HTC's LongPressEndKey
go to Settings/System/HTC LongPressEndKey...
i don't know how you can make it stay at the original screen: since WM5, afaik locking has taken you back to the home screen

When I want to lock the device I just give a short press of the button on the top - that switched the device into sleep mode, the screen goes off and all the keys lock. To do that go into settings/keylock and then choose under "when device is off" "lock all buttons except power button".
One short press again on the top button then wakes it up and switches it on and it comes back to the screen you were last in when you switched it off.
Is that what you want?

peterc10 said:
When I want to lock the device I just give a short press of the button on the top - that switched the device into sleep mode, the screen goes off and all the keys lock. To do that go into settings/keylock and then choose under "when device is off" "lock all buttons except power button".
One short press again on the top button then wakes it up and switches it on and it comes back to the screen you were last in when you switched it off.
Is that what you want?
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It's not really locked is it? You turn the phone on and it works as normal. Similarly with the screen lock, you just push 'unlock' that appears on the screen and it works as normal. What I need is the device lock as found in settings. I just need it on an icon in my programs list would be good enough.
Pete

Found what I want at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408946&highlight=device+lock
if anybody wants it.
Pete

qwertgfdsa78 said:
tI use the standard device lock that comes with WM.
However, it goes back to Today screen everytime after lock.
Can anyone tell me how to stay at the original screen after lock?
Thanks
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Anyone did resolve this problem? I tought it's me, but have found the same problem here.
Help appreciated!

wizja said:
Anyone did resolve this problem? I tought it's me, but have found the same problem here.
Help appreciated!
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You can try StylusLockPro special designed for locking/unlocking while a running application is active.

diamond comes out of standby unregulary or when put on a table

Hello
I got an new Touch diamond because of warrenty reason.
Since i have this new phone, i have problem with this.
I try many custom roms from here. now i have BsB 6.5.1F on it.
My problem is: This phone comes out of standby unregulary.
Often i is "on" when i take it out of my jeans or i when i push the ON/OFF button on the top of phone and put i on a table, i can often see how it comes out of standby.
Can anyone help me!?

chaos_taker said:
Hello
I got an new Touch diamond because of warrenty reason.
Since i have this new phone, i have problem with this.
I try many custom roms from here. now i have BsB 6.5.1F on it.
My problem is: This phone comes out of standby unregulary.
Often i is "on" when i take it out of my jeans or i when i push the ON/OFF button on the top of phone and put i on a table, i can often see how it comes out of standby.
Can anyone help me!?
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the on/off button is also used to turn the screen on and off, maybe thats why its happening

mancsoulja said:
the on/off button is also used to turn the screen on and off, maybe thats why its happening
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What do you mean? I push this button mostly for turning it off. screen off and standby is the same for me.
I mean when i put i on the table or wait a few seconds the screen comes back on wihtout pushing the ON/OFF button again

chaos_taker said:
Hello
I got an new Touch diamond because of warrenty reason.
Since i have this new phone, i have problem with this.
I try many custom roms from here. now i have BsB 6.5.1F on it.
My problem is: This phone comes out of standby unregulary.
Often i is "on" when i take it out of my jeans or i when i push the ON/OFF button on the top of phone and put i on a table, i can often see how it comes out of standby.
Can anyone help me!?
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You can install TouchLockPro as locking solution.
You can enable debug logging of TouchLockPro, so maybe that gives insight why your phone is awakening, by checking the log file \TouchLockPro.log.txt.