I am using Xpress Mail [which I believe is Seven v.6] to push my work email and calendar items to my Tilt. It works fine except for 2 annyoing integration issues. 1. Xpress Mail uses a separate calendar than the Outlook calendar instead of integrating the two so that on my Today screen on the phone I need to enable both the Outlook calendar and the Xpress Mail calendar. This takes up 2 lines and often is repetative. 2. The Outlook calendar will list upcoming appoiintments several days in advance so it can remind you of upcoming appts. The Xpress Mail calendar only will show the appointment on the day of the appointment. It would be nice if it gave at least an extra day notice so that when I check the today screen the night before I know I have a meeting in the morning.
Does anybody here know of a way to tweak to reg so that the Xpress Mail calendar entries are integrated into the Outlook calendar?
Or, if not, then is there a way to have Xpress Mail show appointments prior to the actual day just like the Outlook calendar?
Also, there is a Seven v.7 beta of Xpress Mail that is supposed to be better. Does anybody know if this has been fixed in v.7 beta?
Thanks.
I gave ip on the xpress mail....unstable as ***
I started using emoze and it's great and free
van_mierlo said:
I gave ip on the xpress mail....unstable as ***
I stated using emoze and it's great and free
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I just found out about emoze after your post. I noticed that they support Gmail - which I use (Google Hosted) for my domains. Are there any real advantages to using emoze to push emails from Gmail vs. POP?
How does emoze handle calendar entries from non Outlook sources such as Lotus Notes? You may not know if you just sync with Outlook. Do all calendar entries get integrated into the Outlook calendar on the device or is there a separate calendar like in XpressMail?
jboz said:
I am using Xpress Mail [which I believe is Seven v.6] to push my work email and calendar items to my Tilt. It works fine except for 2 annyoing integration issues. 1. Xpress Mail uses a separate calendar than the Outlook calendar instead of integrating the two so that on my Today screen on the phone I need to enable both the Outlook calendar and the Xpress Mail calendar. This takes up 2 lines and often is repetative. 2. The Outlook calendar will list upcoming appoiintments several days in advance so it can remind you of upcoming appts. The Xpress Mail calendar only will show the appointment on the day of the appointment. It would be nice if it gave at least an extra day notice so that when I check the today screen the night before I know I have a meeting in the morning.
Does anybody here know of a way to tweak to reg so that the Xpress Mail calendar entries are integrated into the Outlook calendar?
Or, if not, then is there a way to have Xpress Mail show appointments prior to the actual day just like the Outlook calendar?
Also, there is a Seven v.7 beta of Xpress Mail that is supposed to be better. Does anybody know if this has been fixed in v.7 beta?
Thanks.
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I used Seven's beta of Version 7 on my 8525 and now on my Tilt. It uses the built in databases for Calendar and Contacts. It is beta, but I have found that it works great and is stable. In version 6, I hated not being able to sync contacts and I had turned off the calendar sync because I didn't want to have two different databases plus their calendar app was crap (as you pointed out). Version 7 fixed that by using the internal database. Additionally, if you have Outlook Web Access, you won't need to keep a PC on conneted to your work network. (We don't, so I couldn't use that new feature). You will need to sign up and apply for the beta if you want to use it. Here is the link: http://community.seven.com/forum/main.php. No, I am not affiliated with Seven, just like their product. Also, I tried emoxe, but could never get it to work reliably.
jboz said:
I am using Xpress Mail [which I believe is Seven v.6] to push my work email and calendar items to my Tilt. It works fine except for 2 annyoing integration issues. 1. Xpress Mail uses a separate calendar than the Outlook calendar instead of integrating the two so that on my Today screen on the phone I need to enable both the Outlook calendar and the Xpress Mail calendar. This takes up 2 lines and often is repetative. 2. The Outlook calendar will list upcoming appoiintments several days in advance so it can remind you of upcoming appts. The Xpress Mail calendar only will show the appointment on the day of the appointment. It would be nice if it gave at least an extra day notice so that when I check the today screen the night before I know I have a meeting in the morning.
Does anybody here know of a way to tweak to reg so that the Xpress Mail calendar entries are integrated into the Outlook calendar?
Or, if not, then is there a way to have Xpress Mail show appointments prior to the actual day just like the Outlook calendar?
Also, there is a Seven v.7 beta of Xpress Mail that is supposed to be better. Does anybody know if this has been fixed in v.7 beta?
Thanks.
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I replied a nice long thorough reply to your post on HoFo. Basically it says Seven's beta rocks. I've used Emoze and Xpress Mail. Both suck in comparison to Seven. See my post there:
http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1256897
Similarly, even though I now sing Seven Beta's praises, I am not affiliated with them in any way. And I can prove that via my posts on the Seven msg support board which I also provide linkage to.
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I'm using Outlook 2007 on my desktop with 3 POP email accounts, calendar, tasks, etc.
Is there a fairly simple way to sync and push email to my Tilt without having exchange server available ?
Thanks,
DLD
Direct push is for exchange 2003 & 2007 only, it has nothing to do with the outlook client. Why don't you setup the pop3 on your phone? On my phone I have 1 exchange account, and 2 pop3 accounts, and it works great.
You could always try Emoze - http://www.emoze.com/ - some people love it, some people hate it. Not tried it myself.
Other options include using Live Mail - which supports push in WM6, or setting up a Mail2Web account. You could then create a rule in Outlook to forward any received mail to your new address. You might be able to configure Live Mail to pull from other Pop3 mailboxes (I know Gmail does this, but I don't know about Live Mail). That way all three Pop accounts end up in your Live Mail bucket, and you sync just that one account with your phone.
Any good?
TimSykes said:
Direct push is for exchange 2003 & 2007 only, it has nothing to do with the outlook client. Why don't you setup the pop3 on your phone? On my phone I have 1 exchange account, and 2 pop3 accounts, and it works great.
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I could do that, but then I'd have to manually check for mail.
It would just be nice to have blackberry-like mail arrival.
DLD
you can tell the phone to check every 5 mins for emails? that's just as regular as blackberry. battery sapping tho. its in the advanced section of the messaging setup. you can do it on symbian nokias too.
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You could always try Emoze - http://www.emoze.com/ - some people love it, some people hate it. Not tried it myself.
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just installed it, and it appears to be working GREAT !
i wonder why this is free ?
DLD
Unless it is an unlocked version, there is a client ready to install on the Tilt that does the same thing. ExpressMail
WWI said:
Unless it is an unlocked version, there is a client ready to install on the Tilt that does the same thing. ExpressMail
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I like the concept of XpressMail (using SMS notification, therefore good for battery life), though I've had little luck getting push to work. It rarely, if ever, worked on my MPX220. I eventually accepted the fact that I'd simply have to do a send/receive when I was interested in seeing if there was new mail. Now that I have the Tilt, I'm having the same reliability issues. It HAS worked... I've had a couple messages show up all on their own, but for the most part, they don't. I've gone into the online configuration @ https://xpressmail.cingular.com/, and found that I had not only one, but two devices set up (my MPX220 set up twice). I deleted both of those, but for some reason can't seem to get the Tilt added. I can go through the process, but once I select it, it just never gets added to the list. The list of emails online is correct, so obviously the xpress mail app is properly getting the emails from my mail provider (comcast), but it's either not sending out the SMS messages, or they aren't being interpreted correctly by the phone.
I had a situation where i needed to syn with 2 exchange servers, and i didnt' want to run a desktop app.
Google for "seven beta" and get the OWA Out of office. You can set it up to sync only email and it works like push off of the OWA of exchange. If you don't have exchange they have a desktop version. Seven is the same people who develop the xpress mail for cingular.
Is there a real time, 2 way sync, push solution for Gmail? Or even better Google Apps?
I've seen Emoze but it's not real time and doesn't do 2 way syncing.
Any other solutions for pushing Gmail to my Tilt?
No there is not. Reason you can't have real time is the delay involved for Gmail to forward your email to a service that can Push it to your device.
So the closest you can get is something like setting your Gmail to forward all your email as it arrives to an Exchange service that supports Push like mail2web.com (or any other of your choice) and the then have your device sync to mail2web.com over the air.
And as you've noticed its only one way. There is no 2 way syncing.
I have set up IMAP settings for GMAIL, two way sync possible and you get almost instant notification with new emails.
Check in google mail under help for IMAP, or use these settings. Works great with Flexmail.
Here is a post from TangerineTractor on the XDA forum how to set up:
Good news for Googlemail/gmail users... IMAP supoport now implemented, so you can schedule checks of your mail account and manage
mails whilst keeping synced up with the gmail servers...
serversettings: imap.gmail.com:993
smtp.gmail.com:587 use SSL
user name is [email protected] or [email protected] etc...
If you set up labels in gmail, these appear as folders in your artemis mailbox, so moving a mail to a folder on your atremis has the effect
of adding a label to it and moving it to 'All Mail' in gmail.
In the advanced mail options, make sure you check to delete mail off server when deleting, otherwise all deleted mail stays in the gmail
all mail folder.
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Daan
Yup, Gmail works great with Flexmail 2007, using IMAP IDLE for instant notification. (push)
PsyOpWarlord, please don't state your knowledge so absolute. Something like "Not as far as i know" makes things much clearer, now people are just confused.
Just create a hotmail account and use windows live. It's push email although I haven't figured out how to push my calendar to my Pocket Informant Calendar or outlook calendar on my device. If anyone could help. Thanks
After dealing with buggy versions of Windows Live (I got one version to work reasonably well with push, though it's spotty), I decided to try
Xpress Mail after reading that it has improved.
I set it up on my AT&T Fuze (stock ROM) to use my Gmail account and soft-reset. It's set up to do push by default. I sent myself three test e-mails and, of course, none of them came to my phone immediately. It took anywhere from five to 15 minutes for an e-mail to come through.
After I performed a manual send/receive I sent myself a couple more e-mails and NOTHING! They all came super late.
I know some folks on here are having no problems with their e-mail, but why the hell is it so hard for others to get our push e-mail going?
I've always been under the impression that "push" mail only works with an Exchange Server... and it works well with my business e-mails. I check gmail through IMAP which is an improvement overPOP3, but still needs to poll the server on a schedule.
diar said:
After dealing with buggy versions of Windows Live (I got one version to work reasonably well with push, though it's spotty), I decided to try
Xpress Mail after reading that it has improved.
I set it up on my AT&T Fuze (stock ROM) to use my Gmail account and soft-reset. It's set up to do push by default. I sent myself three test e-mails and, of course, none of them came to my phone immediately. It took anywhere from five to 15 minutes for an e-mail to come through.
After I performed a manual send/receive I sent myself a couple more e-mails and NOTHING! They all came super late.
I know some folks on here are having no problems with their e-mail, but why the hell is it so hard for others to get our push e-mail going?
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Push email is a service provided by the email carrier or vendor, exchange works very good with push because I use it on a daily basis. GMail (as far as I know) does not offer Push, what Xpress mail does is poll (via IMAP) to gmail and pushes the emails once Xpress has received it rather then having your phone do the polling.
Are you serieus? Why my w810i/k850i/w960i all used pushmail service from Gmail? So yes it have pushmail for shure, only MS don't like the idea of not using exchange for it and now we all have to suffer for that :S
diar said:
After dealing with buggy versions of Windows Live (I got one version to work reasonably well with push, though it's spotty), I decided to try
Xpress Mail after reading that it has improved.
I set it up on my AT&T Fuze (stock ROM) to use my Gmail account and soft-reset. It's set up to do push by default. I sent myself three test e-mails and, of course, none of them came to my phone immediately. It took anywhere from five to 15 minutes for an e-mail to come through.
After I performed a manual send/receive I sent myself a couple more e-mails and NOTHING! They all came super late.
I know some folks on here are having no problems with their e-mail, but why the hell is it so hard for others to get our push e-mail going?
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i'm using Mobipush(.com) with satisfaction.
Ciao
I have windows live set up on ROMeOS and I'm having no problem with push. Sometimes I send CABs to myself so i can get them on my phone and it always happens instantly.
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So yes it have pushmail for shure, only MS don't like the idea of not using exchange for it and now we all have to suffer for that :S
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If MS didn't like the idea of not using exchange... they wouldn't allow outlook to get mail from pop3/imap. If that's suffering you need to expand your horizons a bit... Sorry for the rant, just tired of anti-MS (not that I'm a big fan). Credit where credit is due.
I didn't read the RFC, but I don't think IMAP supports "push". There is a new proposal for Push-IMAP (P-IMAP) based on IMAP4... Android OS seems to support "push" Gmail and iPhones have some proprietary hooks to get "push" Gmail. So "push" Gmail is out there...
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Push email is a service provided by the email carrier or vendor, exchange works very good with push because I use it on a daily basis. GMail (as far as I know) does not offer Push, what Xpress mail does is poll (via IMAP) to gmail and pushes the emails once Xpress has received it rather then having your phone do the polling.
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GMail (as far as I know) does not offer Push.....
Emoze - www.emoze.com offers not only G'Mail "pushed" but also access to G'Apps too!!!!!
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IMAP IDLE can be called Push-Mail.
The email client can stay in contact with the IMAP server, which tells the client that there is new mail.
Unfortunately, Outlook Mobile does NOT support IMAP IDLE.
ImapPusherService adds this functionality, but it's still an early version...
I'm not satisfied with Xpress email either. I've only added my main Gmail on so far for testing, but I have several more I want to monitor. With my Treo 680 I had no problem with email monitoring. During Mon-Fri daytime I monitor all my accts with thunderbird portable and therefore don't want email being picked up by the phone too. I set up the custom time settings in Xpress to not do this and yet, email still came through. Also it often picks up old mail - mail that was sent several days ago that I'd already read via POP on thunderbird, etc. I don't want to deal with this ridiculousness. I don't need instant Push per se, but at least the ability to set an account to check every five minutes. Would I be able to replace Xpress with Emoze, FlexMail, ProfiMail, or other email apps smoothly? As in replace it on my email tab easily?
I've had no issued with xpress mail. I'm actually participating in their beta program and have hotmail, yahoo and my work lotus notes mail pushing. A lot of times I will get mail on my htc touch pro before my Notes client on my laptop pulls in the mail.
The big ting I'm looking for (for my wifes phone) is a solution that can push contacts and calendar from yahoo, hotmail or gmail.
Lastly I wish one of these solutions would some how include a script or something triggering your VPN client. When I'm away from my desktop I need the connector to reconnect to the work mail server but it can't without me manually starting my vpn client.
Maybe I need to learn how to write a script to not own launch my VPN client but also to click on connect...
For everyone that claims Gmail doesn't offer push, if i connect the first time to it via imap on every latest model (later then w810i) it says 'gmail offers pushmail, activate it on this phone?'... it workes really great (on a SE phone) but MS don't like us to use other clients...
It just sucks, and of there was a real solution for this (a real program instead of ms outlook) it wil be used by almost everyone with wm i quess!
I wanted to throw out some names: I use Seven's Beta for my university (Yale) IMAP push. I also use Funambol to synchronize contacts, tasks, notes, calendar with Outlook.
Alternatives for Push Gmail include Emansio, Emoze, IMAP-pusher service, Mobipush.
I've posted on this issue extensively, so just do a search!
Okay so I need to know which is better:
Seven?
eMoze?
Mobipush?
Emansio?
I currently use seven and don't like that it can't set times to push the data (say every hour). It just leaves a time on to push. Like a time period. How is mobipush or emoze?
Kraize said:
Okay so I need to know which is better:
Seven?
eMoze?
Mobipush?
Emansio?
I currently use seven and don't like that it can't set times to push the data (say every hour). It just leaves a time on to push. Like a time period. How is mobipush or emoze?
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Be frank forget all above. there is 2 best option you can have.
1) get mail2web.com account: they offering free exchange service.( my opionen best for free only negative point.. the mails that you send hve the extension [email protected]
2) flexmail software:I think best email client but takes some memory. with that you can download you mail (gmail) IMAP and IDLE which is kinda pushmail. it take 1 minute to arrive on you device.
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Be frank forget all above. there is 2 best option you can have.
1) get mail2web.com account: they offering free exchange service.( my opionen best for free only negative point.. the mails that you send hve the extension [email protected]
2) flexmail software:I think best email client but takes some memory. with that you can download you mail (gmail) IMAP and IDLE which is kinda pushmail. it take 1 minute to arrive on you device.
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Seriously? Why? I have a yahoo account. And I've been using SEVEN so far, and it gets my mail faster than my mail counter on my yahoo widgets can count.
What do you guys think? I want to push yahoo mail to my phone without using XpressMail. Do you think emoze is better? or System Seven?
I've been using Seven for a couple of years now. It works great and it allows multiple accounts controlled seamlessly through the native e-mail client. It also has gmail contacts sync. The challenge is that it is a beta product so they will occasionally have downtime (due to upgrades, testing or fixes), maybe once or twice a year.
After setting up my Fuze, I was having some trouble installing Seven where it would freeze on the initial setup screen (you have to close TF3D first, or just restart after installing to complete the setup). So I decided to try emoze. But the biggest limitation for me was that emoze only allowed push for one e-mail account and it had some limitations in how it took over the native messaging app.
I decided to go back to Seven and have been happy ever since. Hope that helps.
emoze2 supports multiple accounts
emoze version 2, which can be downloaded from emoze website, supports multiple accouts.
You can have your OWA, gmail, home mail and Facebook messaging all on one emoze client with separeted accounts.
FIY.
gilirock.
Hello! So i'm new to the whole android scene, ive been using iPhones for 2 years, and windows mobile for years before that.
Currently on my phone, i have the gmail app for my gmail, some other email app that came with the captivate for my exchange syncing, and im using K-9 mail for my MSN email accounts (there's 3).
Everything works very well EXCEPT for the hotmail accounts. I would prefer to have all of my email accounts in 1 email app where i can open it up, pick the account and choose the folder i want to view (inbox, junk, trash, sent items, etc..)
Im having a tough time finding one... I'm ok with using 2 or 3 but 1 would of course be ideal. The biggest issue im having is the syncing. Ive tried every setting possible and my K-9 mail will not auto sync with the msn/hotmail servers. The only way to get my mail is to get into K-9 mail and tell it to sync, then after several minutes i'll have everything synced and see my new emails.
Is there an app that can combine all these, or just the hotmail accounts that will sync every hour or so automatically that anybody knows of?
Why not auto-forward your hotmail to your gmail. Or POP your hotmail from your gmail? You can set up a filter to label them as hotmail messages, or even use the multiple inbox lab.
There is no good all in one email app
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MSN/Hotmail now supports full exchange sync with email, contacts and calendar. MS claims there is known issue with Android 2.1. In my case, I found the contacts sync doesn't work for me. MS advise you to use Android apps like TouchDown etc to do the sync instead.
The exchange server address is m.hotmail.com and use your email address and password to login.
So, you can use the default email app to add exchange sync for your MSN/hotmail account. The downside is that email app limits you to max two Exchange accounts.