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Email question for all you gurus

When i get my kaiser, i will be setting it up to sync with outlook at home (via a gmail server). This will sync all my mail with outlook, but I am wondering, is there any way to actively send and recieve mail, that would be reflected in outlook at home, on my Kaiser (without using gmail's website).
I believe this is a no, where i can compose messages, and they would be sent next time i sync at home, and where i will only recieve messages when i sync at home, but I am hopeful that there has been some change with this, as the last time i used this type of stuff it was with a windows mobile pda, with only wifi (i.e. not a smart phone).
Thanks for any and all input.
elbweb

I think (and others here may have much more elegant solutions) that the easiest way to do what your asking (or at least what I think your asking) is to simply set Activesync on your phone to sync manually (and sync it only when you are at home). If you can elaborate on what it is exactly you are trying to do a better answer will be forthcoming.

this is what i have set up now:
My home comp, set up with outlook 2007, vista, etc.
My HTC Kaiser 3G via AT&T.
They sync when i am at home, so any messages i have composed on the Kaiser get sent, and any emails i have recieved since my last sync get updated on my phone.
If i set up an email account on the phone, it will use push email, and then i will be able to activly send and recieve messages trough 3g while on the go.
Is there a way (other then Exchange Server) to be able to activly use my Outlook Email account on the go, and have those changes reflected in the Outlook on my computer, without setting up a seperate account for email only on the phone?

Hosted Exchange?
These questions are specific to the Kasier but more to how ActiveSync works.
The only way that I know of to sync contacts, calendar and email with Outlook is to use Exchange. You can certainly sync POP email accounts and Hotmail accounts, even Gmail accounts one your phone and the contact info with Hotmail but not calendar entries.
To me the most comprehensive solution would be to get a hosted exchange account and then sync with it. You can install Outlook on your computer and connect via RPC over HTTPS (if using Exchange 2003) or Outlook Anywhere (if using Exchange 2007) Hosted Exchange services are not very expensive and they work well. Simple google search will give you all the details.

There is even another Microsoft Exchange thread on this Kaiser forum that mentions 2 different "free" hosted exchange servers

Try emoze: www.emoze.com

PUSH email w/o exchange ?

I'm using Outlook 2007 on my desktop with 3 POP email accounts, calendar, tasks, etc.
Is there a fairly simple way to sync and push email to my Tilt without having exchange server available ?
Thanks,
DLD

Direct push is for exchange 2003 & 2007 only, it has nothing to do with the outlook client. Why don't you setup the pop3 on your phone? On my phone I have 1 exchange account, and 2 pop3 accounts, and it works great.

You could always try Emoze - http://www.emoze.com/ - some people love it, some people hate it. Not tried it myself.
Other options include using Live Mail - which supports push in WM6, or setting up a Mail2Web account. You could then create a rule in Outlook to forward any received mail to your new address. You might be able to configure Live Mail to pull from other Pop3 mailboxes (I know Gmail does this, but I don't know about Live Mail). That way all three Pop accounts end up in your Live Mail bucket, and you sync just that one account with your phone.
Any good?

TimSykes said:
Direct push is for exchange 2003 & 2007 only, it has nothing to do with the outlook client. Why don't you setup the pop3 on your phone? On my phone I have 1 exchange account, and 2 pop3 accounts, and it works great.
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I could do that, but then I'd have to manually check for mail.
It would just be nice to have blackberry-like mail arrival.
DLD

you can tell the phone to check every 5 mins for emails? that's just as regular as blackberry. battery sapping tho. its in the advanced section of the messaging setup. you can do it on symbian nokias too.

dan13l said:
You could always try Emoze - http://www.emoze.com/ - some people love it, some people hate it. Not tried it myself.
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just installed it, and it appears to be working GREAT !
i wonder why this is free ?
DLD

Unless it is an unlocked version, there is a client ready to install on the Tilt that does the same thing. ExpressMail

WWI said:
Unless it is an unlocked version, there is a client ready to install on the Tilt that does the same thing. ExpressMail
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I like the concept of XpressMail (using SMS notification, therefore good for battery life), though I've had little luck getting push to work. It rarely, if ever, worked on my MPX220. I eventually accepted the fact that I'd simply have to do a send/receive when I was interested in seeing if there was new mail. Now that I have the Tilt, I'm having the same reliability issues. It HAS worked... I've had a couple messages show up all on their own, but for the most part, they don't. I've gone into the online configuration @ https://xpressmail.cingular.com/, and found that I had not only one, but two devices set up (my MPX220 set up twice). I deleted both of those, but for some reason can't seem to get the Tilt added. I can go through the process, but once I select it, it just never gets added to the list. The list of emails online is correct, so obviously the xpress mail app is properly getting the emails from my mail provider (comcast), but it's either not sending out the SMS messages, or they aren't being interpreted correctly by the phone.

I had a situation where i needed to syn with 2 exchange servers, and i didnt' want to run a desktop app.
Google for "seven beta" and get the OWA Out of office. You can set it up to sync only email and it works like push off of the OWA of exchange. If you don't have exchange they have a desktop version. Seven is the same people who develop the xpress mail for cingular.

Help me figure out how to synchronize emails properly

I've looked around a lot but I can't find this specific issue mentioned.
My Diamond currently syncs well with my outlook, which receives emails from a few accounts and aggregates them in one inbox. This is good because I'm able to take them with me anywhere.
What I want is for the Diamond to also be able to download mail from my gmail account - which it does without a hitch - but this means I won't get that email in my desktop inbox. When connecting the device and starting activesync, it will pull new messages from my desktop index, but instead of moving the gmail stuff to the desktop, it just deletes all messages completely and there's no trace of them anywhere.
Is there a way to attach an account to the "outlook inbox" so that the gmail mails I download are added to it instead of to a new account? If not, is there any way to synchronize that new account to my desktop inbox instead?
This sounds very trivial, but I can't get it to work.
I am using Dutty's latest ROM (3.6b).

Email settings...
Have a look in your email settings on your device for your gmail account. At the bottom of one of the pages you'll see underlined 'Advanced Settings'. Tap on this and change the setting to 'Leave on server'. This way, you can receive it on your device, but when you check your mail back at your desktop, it will be there too.
Look under Send/Receive Settings?

That's the option currently set, and it does indeed leave the messages on gmail, but they are not automatically downloaded to my desktop if they were already downloaded to the Diamond.
I don't understand why it doesn't synchronize them with outlook on my computer...

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Spiral Architect said:
That's the option currently set, and it does indeed leave the messages on gmail, but they are not automatically downloaded to my desktop if they were already downloaded to the Diamond.
I don't understand why it doesn't synchronize them with outlook on my computer...
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I'm sure why that is then. I use Tiscali email, and that downloads to my desktop whether I've already viewed them on my device or not. Perhaps someone else who uses gmail can help you... strange

in gmail, even if u leave the emails in the server, they wont be downloaded more than once. i know that, i am using a gmail account with my office pc as well as my home pc. and if i download an email from gmail using one of the two pc's, i cant download it again using the other pc, unless i go into the gmail server and "refresh" all emails making them as new. Same of course applies if you use a win mobile system.
Solution? yep and pretty simple. Have a new account in an exchange server, which can sync with your diamond. Have all your emails forwarded to this account. My diamond syncs only with my push-emailing exchange server, whilst all other accounts of mine are set in order to forward copies to the exchange server.
dunno if i made myself sufficiently clear... ?

How do I uhh.. set up an exchange server?
Is it seriously impossible to synch email I receive on the phone with desktop outlook? This is stupid. :/ One of the reasons I got the phone was that I could get emails everywhere, but it's useless if not only it doesn't synch it with the computer, but it deletes these mails automatically.....

Spiral Architect said:
How do I uhh.. set up an exchange server?
Is it seriously impossible to synch email I receive on the phone with desktop outlook? This is stupid. :/ One of the reasons I got the phone was that I could get emails everywhere, but it's useless if not only it doesn't synch it with the computer, but it deletes these mails automatically.....
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i opened an account in a microsoft exchange server, to which i forward all my emails from other accounts. Also all my contacts and to-do list are in this exchange server, and are sync together with outlook in my other two computers (+diamond). I do so not just for sync but also because this is the best way for getting push-emailing... meaning my diamond gets the email right in the moment i receive it.
btw u can get a free email account in the following exchange server: http://live.mail2web.com/

Do you have imap enabled or just pop3? If you let the phone automatically setup your email then it will automatically chose pop3. Don't enter your email adress when configuring your gmail because it automatically sets up everything. Just enter something like [email protected] and it should give you the option to choose imap.
And make sure your computer also uses imap.

[Q] Good EMail App

Hello! So i'm new to the whole android scene, ive been using iPhones for 2 years, and windows mobile for years before that.
Currently on my phone, i have the gmail app for my gmail, some other email app that came with the captivate for my exchange syncing, and im using K-9 mail for my MSN email accounts (there's 3).
Everything works very well EXCEPT for the hotmail accounts. I would prefer to have all of my email accounts in 1 email app where i can open it up, pick the account and choose the folder i want to view (inbox, junk, trash, sent items, etc..)
Im having a tough time finding one... I'm ok with using 2 or 3 but 1 would of course be ideal. The biggest issue im having is the syncing. Ive tried every setting possible and my K-9 mail will not auto sync with the msn/hotmail servers. The only way to get my mail is to get into K-9 mail and tell it to sync, then after several minutes i'll have everything synced and see my new emails.
Is there an app that can combine all these, or just the hotmail accounts that will sync every hour or so automatically that anybody knows of?

Why not auto-forward your hotmail to your gmail. Or POP your hotmail from your gmail? You can set up a filter to label them as hotmail messages, or even use the multiple inbox lab.

There is no good all in one email app
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MSN/Hotmail now supports full exchange sync with email, contacts and calendar. MS claims there is known issue with Android 2.1. In my case, I found the contacts sync doesn't work for me. MS advise you to use Android apps like TouchDown etc to do the sync instead.
The exchange server address is m.hotmail.com and use your email address and password to login.
So, you can use the default email app to add exchange sync for your MSN/hotmail account. The downside is that email app limits you to max two Exchange accounts.

Nexus 6 Best email app?

Hi,
I'm looking for a good email app for my Nexus 6. I basically only use a personal outlook/hotmail account. I want to sync emails manually only, not push nor auto sync after a few minutes. With the gmail app, when I delete an email in my outlook IMAP account, it comes back and i have to delete it again. it annoys me. I've tried removing and re-adding my account as well. So Gmail is a no go unless this problem is fixed. I've tried many apps from the Play store including aquamail, cloudmagic, K9-mail, bluemail, WeMail, Air Mail-email, Solmail, Outlook app and Email Typemail mail. I'm not satisfied with any of these apps because either 1. no manual sync option (only push) 2. interface isn't that nice, 3. takes too much time to load emails. I've tried Nine which is perfect for me, but I'm looking for a free app. Currently, I'm using Boxer but still not totally satisfied as it takes time to refresh my emails. Any suggestions of free third party apps will be appreciated or maybe testes stock email apps of other phones?
Thanks!

You've mentioned that you have to delete the email twice. I'm assuming you're deleting the email in GMail, then having to enter your Outlook account and delete it there, if I'm understanding you correctly. If that is the case, then the problem is with your email setup. IMAP by design leaves messages on the server, since with IMAP only a copy is downloaded to a client, with the original remaining on the server. Since Outlook is your server, you have to access Outlook to permanently delete the message. If that behavior is not what you want, check in the settings for your Outlook account and see if you can send messages using POP3 instead of IMAP.
If you can make the switch to POP, the GMail app should then function as you expect it to, deleting the messages off both server and client.

yasirrfc said:
Hi,
I'm looking for a good email app for my Nexus 6. I basically only use a personal outlook/hotmail account. I want to sync emails manually only, not push nor auto sync after a few minutes. With the gmail app, when I delete an email in my outlook IMAP account, it comes back and i have to delete it again. it annoys me. I've tried removing and re-adding my account as well. So Gmail is a no go unless this problem is fixed. I've tried many apps from the Play store including aquamail, cloudmagic, K9-mail, bluemail, WeMail, Air Mail-email, Solmail, Outlook app and Email Typemail mail. I'm not satisfied with any of these apps because either 1. no manual sync option (only push) 2. interface isn't that nice, 3. takes too much time to load emails. I've tried Nine which is perfect for me, but I'm looking for a free app. Currently, I'm using Boxer but still not totally satisfied as it takes time to refresh my emails. Any suggestions of free third party apps will be appreciated or maybe testes stock email apps of other phones?
Thanks!
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k9mail is best option.
And I suspect that complaint of "only push" is targeting k9mail (since the rest of your complaints definitely don't apply), so I will say that you CAN set it to be exclusively manual. Its in Account Settings --> Fetching Mail --> Push folders, set it to "none". Also so it NEVER checks unless you tell it to, set Poll folders also to "none".
Edit: This should give you a hint;
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159420
Seems that MS does NOT implement the "Trash" directory in their IMAP structure. That means that any attempt to delete a message via an IMAP client will perform the deletion locally, then issue a MOVE command to move the message from INBOX to Trash on the server, and since the "Trash" directory doesn't exist, the MOVE fails on the server and the message remains in the INBOX.
Solution: in k9mail account settings --> folders, scroll down to "Trash folder", and select "Deleted Items".

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
You've mentioned that you have to delete the email twice. I'm assuming you're deleting the email in GMail, then having to enter your Outlook account and delete it there, if I'm understanding you correctly. If that is the case, then the problem is with your email setup. IMAP by design leaves messages on the server, since with IMAP only a copy is downloaded to a client, with the original remaining on the server. Since Outlook is your server, you have to access Outlook to permanently delete the message. If that behavior is not what you want, check in the settings for your Outlook account and see if you can send messages using POP3 instead of IMAP.
If you can make the switch to POP, the GMail app should then function as you expect it to, deleting the messages off both server and client.
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Actually, I meant deleting it twice from the Gmail app. So for instance, I get an email and delete it in Gmail by swiping. After several seconds, I'll get a notification or receiving that same email. And then I have to delete it again in the Gmail app.

Even so, IMAP could very easily cause this, for the reasons stated. But thanks for the clarification.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Even so, IMAP could very easily cause this, for the reasons stated. But thanks for the clarification.
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No. IMAP *can't* cause this unless there is either a protocol failure OR a configuration error.

How do you resolve the OP's problem then?

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
How do you resolve the OP's problem then?
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I've actually setup my account with exchange activesync on the Gmail app. Entered the manual settings for setting up the Exchange account and now the Gmail app seems okay. Although, it's sending emails only from my outlook alias and not the orignal email ID, but that's not an issue at the moment.