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I have two little annoyances that I would like to sort out regarding the messaging app in windows mobile. First, I would like to remove the "Outlook Email" account from the account chooser. I have a windows live account, so the outlook email folder is always empty. It's annoying. Secondly, whenever I get an email, I also get an sms with the email header in it. Where is this coming from and how the hell do I get rid of it? I can't figure out if maybe it was a feature from gmail, or if it was something phone related. It's annoying as hell. That's all I got, thanks in advance.
Ok I figured out why I was recieving an sms with email headers, I had an email notification set up through T-mobile. It was a good thing back when I had a crappy phone that had no email capabilities. (5 years ago) Damn thing's been irking me ever since. Good riddance! One down, one to go. How do I delete the damn outlook account?
Heya,
I just recently got the Fuze and also a first time user of the wimo OS and I just found out that I get charged for the IMs that i send through the default IM softwares. Is there any decent or good IM software out there for wimo? I have the unlimited data plan so I'd like to make the best of it. Thank you very much.
There's a plethora of programs for this purpose. Try looking for Sling, Octro Talk, Fring, IM+, etc. My personal program is BeeJive/JiveTalk.
Have a look here and here
does beejive and IM+ required to be paid for?
and among the freewares, which would you recommend the most?
I tried installing Beejive but for every message that comes in/or I send i receive a text message saying WVCI 1.1 aim. Any way to get rid of this?
For ICQ especially is the best solution software named Pigeon. For Push-to-talk conversation via internet use Palringo.
I ended up using EQO.. the only problem i have with it is the fact that i cant read what i typed down until i send it.. it seems to be a bug of some sort.
mputtr said:
I ended up using EQO.. the only problem i have with it is the fact that i cant read what i typed down until i send it.. it seems to be a bug of some sort.
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So far every aim client i've tried is doing the same thing. The one that comes with the fuze was great until i found out it uses SMS.
yeah. i found that out after wasting 10 or so txt msgs....
EQO is a pretty nice freeware IM and it seems like the landscape mode issue is present in all other IM software.. maybe it's a HTC thing.
might it have anything to do with the resolution of the phone? maybe the programs aren't optimzed for this res?
Slick messenger is free...... He supports ICQ, MSN, GTalk, Yahoo, AIM and Jabber.
I do love Palringo. It is very fast and can do everything you need!
Palringo
I have to agree with the previous poster. http://palringo.com - easily the best option out there. Tight integration, multiple accounts active on multiple services, includes AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, and Jabber/GTalk.
Only weird thing is that you have to create an account on their website first. But then if you ever move phones / reinstall, your profile includes all your accounts already. And you can send picture messages inline directly.
Personally I like IM+ the best, It has support for aim,msn,yahoo,googletalk,icq, and jabber. You do have to pay for it however.
edit, but now that ive seen palringo in the posts above i think my first impression is wow that looks a lot nicer than im+.
another vote for plaringo. i use it very often with the voice chat, picture now location (gps/cell tower trianglutaion) works on my desktop and ppc
One big minus for Palringo...it drains the battery very quickly. Instead that,it is perfect solution for voice messaging also via slow GPRS! and it's multiplatform(I use it with Hurricane and previously with Himalaya).
I don't think Palringo is all that big of a battery hog. I used to keep it on for hours at a time and never had any issues on my Kaiser. This was generally quick bursts of a dozen messages a couple times an hour.
But yes, my preferred IM client on Windows Mobile so far. Have not tried any of the for-pay ones. Yeah you do have to create an account, but it's because they want you to use their messaging service which seems like it would be very useful if you know anyone else with the program. It's multiplatform, and has media sharing and push-to-talk which I hear works decently well.
Palringo is my vote. I BOUGHT IM+ about 2 days b4 someone showed me Palringo. I was sad.
Only drawbacks for me is I use AOL IM alot. It doesn't keep my AOL directories. It just throws everything into "online" or "offline".
No vibration feature or light. I think IM+ had those.
I LOVE voice IMing. As long as you AIM someone with the sound on, they get a tag saying I sent a voice message. When they click on it, it plays back what I said. Very handy while driving.
Allows two different AIMs to be signed in. I like that. Sometimes I need work aim and home aim on.
Now I kinda use AOLIM client for Windows Mobile. Works fine. And has my directories.
+1 for Palringo
I've tried every PPC IM program out there and Palringo is the one I settled on. I'm very happy with it and it's free. They also continue to improve it and add features (though I'm very happy with it now).
-Mc
Oh. I dloaded IM+ since I havn't used it in about a year. They IMPROVED it. Now has a history, remembers my aol groups. Only thing still missing is vibration and teh ability to show AIM personal messages.
Hey all, first time poster here. Just bought a Fuze the other day, loving it thus far - but AT&T is gay in regards to their texting, $20/mo for unlimited texting on top of $30/mo for unlimited bandwidth. I have the unlimited bandwidth, but only $5/mo texting. (200 text messages)
My question is, like the title suggests, out of all the Google apps listed on their mobile page, which ones use messaging and not bandwidth? Specifically, I want to know about Gmail - but I also want to know if any of their other apps use messaging, too. I was playing with the maps part last night with the traffic option turned on, and it's so pimp I nearly had to change my pants. I need to make sure stuff I want to use doesn't sit and use text messages, though. I found Palgrino in another thread here for non-messaging IM services and that's a pretty tight app, but I want something to check email with. (could also use an app to check non-Gmail email with that only uses bandwidth, but I'm guessing I can find that via search, haven't tried yet)
Thanks in advance
Congratulations on your purchase. Hope you're happy with it. I think only the default AT&T "instant messaging" program uses text messages. Another revenue opportunity, I guess.
Palringo is my preferred instant messaging program. I switched to it precisely because it only uses data.
As for Gmail, it is - in my opinion - easier to access it via IMAP using the Messaging program. It integrates into the operating system much better. If you need instructions, they should be somewhere in these forums or on the Gmail website.
If the person your "texting" with has accesss to gmail too, they can send you either sms' (youd still have to pay) from gmail. OR do what i did till i turned on texting. Set your IMAP gmail to check every 5 mins.
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Finally, a viable messaging solution for android. The current version of Meebo for the android platform(V6) surpasses the quality of BuddyMob. I(along with others) have confirmed that there are no disconnects while phone is asleep, no forced closing, and no lost incoming messages while phone is asleep. Also, the best part is messages are received almost instantly without using sms. Pure data. I am sooo excited I could cry. Now I can say my G1 is finally a competititor in the pda market. Thank You Meebo!!!!!!!!!
You can find meebo in the Android Market.
Also, please post your results here. Maby the developer will see our support and improve the app.
Interesting. I had a few issues with Meebo that made me switch to BuddyMob instead. I will definitely check the new version of Meebo out.
Ugh. Unfortunately it still won't remember my ICQ UIN/password between sessions. I really can't be bothered to type that in manually every time I log on. It's a pity, because Meebo does seem to have improved a lot in other areas, like how it's now listing my contacts' nicknames instead of their UIN's.
after 2 days of use, I noticed the battery life is better with meebo.
mannyb, have you added this comment to the market? The dev might add the feature if he/she sees enough request for it. I noticed my requested features were added.
Also, for the U.K. users who are upset about the builtin IM missing some networks. This is a good free solution. If we get enough ppl supporting the dev this app would ROCK.
palringo is being worked on too.
Im alpha testing palringo. Its quite promising
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Im alpha testing palringo. Its quite promising
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GReat to hear. Is push-to-talk included? That would be awsome!
RC33 have AIM / ICQ / MSN / Yahoo included in IM
its there a way to get the meebo or build in msn connected in sleep mode via wifi? allways disconect
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RC33 have AIM / ICQ / MSN / Yahoo included in IM
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But the built in IM client really does suck, IMHO. Hard. I have a couple hundred buddies. (I use it for work and for play..) and have multiple accounts with multiple groups and I find that it takes forever to load, then populate with buddies... plus, the stock apps (as well as most of the other IM clients) insist on showing empty groups. So, I've got 15 empty groups showing...
Meebo combines all buddy lists in one, it's SUPER quick to load, can have more than one of each account signed in plus empty groups are ignored. I'm sold.
Plus, the built-in IM app uses text-message credits for both inbound and outbound IMs (with the exception of GTalk).
If Meebo would add Facebook chat to the Android client then this would be a no-brainer.
-tw
It has support for Facebook chat you just have to first set it up on meebo.com and then once you sign on with your Meebo account on the G1 your Facebook contacts will show up. I have tried it and it works well,.
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Plus, the built-in IM app uses text-message credits for both inbound and outbound IMs (with the exception of GTalk).
If Meebo would add Facebook chat to the Android client then this would be a no-brainer.
-tw
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twieder said:
Plus, the built-in IM app uses text-message credits for both inbound and outbound IMs (with the exception of GTalk).
If Meebo would add Facebook chat to the Android client then this would be a no-brainer.
-tw
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get an account on meebo.com and set up your facebook/aim/yahoo/msn/icq/myspace/etc... accounts. Then, sign in under "Meebo" on the android client and they're all there.
I know.
I know.
It's the ****.
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GReat to hear. Is push-to-talk included? That would be awsome!
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Palringo PTT looks to be coming but is not in the alpha release yet (icons there). It's coming along nicely, but far from complete. I love that with Palringo you log in to one Palringo account and bam, all your other accounts come up and log in. Pretty hawt.
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I love that with Palringo you log in to one Palringo account and bam, all your other accounts come up and log in. Pretty hawt.
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Meebo does that too. Choose "Meebo" from the drop down list on your phone and any IM networks that you have associated with the Meebo web account auto-log in. I currently have MySpace, Facebook, G-Talk, 2 yahoo accounts, AIM, ICQ and MSN.
(Damn, I sound like I work for the company. (I don't))
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Meebo does that too. Choose "Meebo" from the drop down list on your phone and any IM networks that you have associated with the Meebo web account auto-log in. I currently have MySpace, Facebook, G-Talk, 2 yahoo accounts, AIM, ICQ and MSN.
(Damn, I sound like I work for the company. (I don't))
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DO any of these apps allow for status updates in aim?
There is so far a HUGE issue with Meebo. There is NO status updating. You cannot go "Away" or "Idle" or any of that, nor can you post your own status. To me this is a major drawback that needs addressing. I tried BuddyMob, it didn't really work very well. Ill be waiting on an update for Meebo. (there was actually one today, but did not address the problem at hand.)
So you can in fact utilize facebook and Myspace messenger within meebo? How does this IM application effect battery life? Is it push messaging or is the application just constantly polling a server?
I haven't noticed any major battery draw while using it... I don't always have it on. As for changing statuses, I just don't think that's a big issue for me. It I'm not available for chat, I just turn the thing off. The only issue I have regarding meebo is the notification is always on even after I've logged off, saying I'm still "signed on with x number off accounts."
@gimpeh - yes, sign on via the website and create a meebo account and you can add facebook and myspace as well as yahoo AIM, ICQ, etc... . Then, on the G1, dont sign on to each account (yahoo and aim, etc..) just signon to "Meebo" and you'll signed onto all of your accounts at once.
So far, none of the IM clients - online or real apps - can handle being in an environment where they lose signal on a regular basis. My office building has scattered signal inside for T-Mobile, and if I walk to another office, I'm bound to lose signal for atleast 15-20seconds. None of the IM clients can handle this. The builtin GTalk is the best, by far though. It's atleast able to reconnect after losing signal. But I will leave Meebo running and come back 30min later (After walking around the building a little bit) and it will ALWAYS be disconnected.
Is it really that hard for the developers to poll whether there is signal every few minutes and try to reconnect? It seems like the apps that "claim" to do the polling tend to give up after a certain number of minutes.
In my opinion, all IM apps should continue to poll for an active connection until the radio is shut off. I know it would be a battery drain to a certain degree after a while, but I know many people who are in my situation where they lose signal for very short amounts of time several times a day.
I was browsing around and came across that Seven, www.seven.com
Has clients for the magic and the htc dream.
For those who don't know system seven is a great push email solution, It is free!
the beta sign up is here.
http://community.seven.com/choose.html
I'd hold off on this one. Have you seen their issue list for the Android version? It's longer than my leg!
It does look interesting though. Does it accomplish PUSH via SMS like everyone else? If so, can I register my Google Voice # to get SMS free? I should probably post this on their forums
thanks, imm downloading it now been wishing for a normal email client for ages!
ok tryed it!
the sign up is only for the forum you dont need to sign up for anything to use the app.
when i first ran the app it asked me for my phone number, i put in a bogus one out of curiosity and my push notifications still worked.
so needless to say, I LOVE THIS APP!!!!!!!
this is looking nice. a few bugs, like it keeps asking me if i want to add another account... and i don't have another to add but i guess its nice it asked ;p Should be nice once it develops.
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For those who don't know system seven is a great push email solution, It is free!
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Yeah, read about this service last year. Interesting to know it is developing an Android client.
However, I can't be the only one who thinks that for a true smartphone platform like Android, it makes little sense (and indeed adds unnecessary uncertainty and security issues) to be routing mail through an intermediate party when there are applications that can connect directly to the mail server.
i looked around thier website but i didnt see anything about thier email being routed through a third party, where did you get that info?
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i looked around thier website but i didnt see anything about thier email being routed through a third party, where did you get that info?
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Doesn't the mail have to go through their servers? How else would it be delivered via SMS?
its not delievered by sms.....
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its not delievered by sms.....
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How else would they do push?
same way the gmail app does, and the iphone and every other phone out there does. through the interweb!
i dont know the details, but sms isnt the only way to push....
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same way the gmail app does, and the iphone and every other phone out there does. through the interweb!
i dont know the details, but sms isnt the only way to push....
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As far as I know, all of the apps you just listed DO use SMS for push e-mail. That is the main reason people with Data plans that don't include messaging cannot use the stock GMail app.
The old "PULL" method is where the mail app reaches out to the server every so often and downloads any e-mails if it finds them. This of course wastes battery life since it does this polling regardless.
The "PUSH" is different in such a way that the server sends specifically-formulated SMS's that are intercepted by the GMail/iPhone Mail/other mail apps. These apps then prevent these SMS's from showing up as SMS, and instead they reach out and grab the e-mail from the server. This saves battery life by eliminating scheduled polling, while at the same time provides that "instant" e-mail feel.
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As far as I know, all of the apps you just listed DO use SMS for push e-mail. That is the main reason people with Data plans that don't include messaging cannot use the stock GMail app.
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The GMail app does not use SMS to push, it can maintain a TCP connection, as does most other "push" type applications.
If Seven does not use SMS to push then mea culpa. However, from the looks of their website, all data still has to route through their servers.
i read through thier privacy statement on thier website. is sais they dont store any of your data. altough it dosnt say it does not route through...
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i looked around thier website but i didnt see anything about thier email being routed through a third party, where did you get that info?
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They ARE the THIRD PARTY
you can compare it simliar to how blackberry works. everything is routeted through blackberry's servers before it hits your phone. blackberry being the third party. that's why when you sign up for a BB plan, u get BIS or BES, it all goes through blackberrys servers. It isnt like microsoft's direct push where the connection is only from the server to your phone, no third party. I used seven when i had WMO, it was ok, it doesnt use SMS.
you download an app to your phone and you connect the app to seven's servers. this keeps a constant connection and when you get email, seven willl alert the app which notify you and download the email. it was ok, but the app was very laggy and it was a major battery killer.