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Hey, I just got my new Tilt running, and I was depressed to see that the built in IM program uses text messageing instead of data transfer. I also wasn't too happy with the default email browser, and it didn't seem to play nice with Gmail for me. So I was wondering if anyone had a decent (and free to use!) IM client for AIM and a decent email one too, both of which using data and not text messages for service? I also had a problem with my Gmail account, where messages that had been read and archieved would appear as new in the app, so I was being flooded by old, saved emails. Thanks for any advice/help!
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google these two....octrotalk and palringo. on the flip side you have mundu im which is $11 for lifetime and agile messenger which is $30 a year or something like that. i think your best bet would be octrotalk....enjoy.
if you go over to handango.com right now and click the free apps banner at the top they're giving away mundu im....go get that!
So I want to check my yahoo email from my AT&T tilt, however according to AT&T there is NO way to do it unless I pay Yahoo $20/year for something. I had it all set up when I first got the Tilt a few days ago and it worked intermitt for a while, but quit last night. After calling tech support they wanted me use xpress mail, but that does not get all the folder info from yahoo.
So, per tech I deleted the accounts, hard reset (I soft reset at the bloatware load) and now I need to install a new email account to check yahoo. After doing so, I get an error that says to check my user name and password...but I know they are correct. I did not get this error before, just got intermit email retrieval.
Is there a chance that when talking to tech they notified yahoo or flipped a switch or something so that there is no way I can do this now.
OR is there a way to check my Yahoo email without using xpress mail...OR by using xpress mail and being able to see all the folders I have in yahoo?
Thanks much...I tried the wiki and the search but did not find any info...although I am sure someone will point me to the solution right away.
outlook on your device should auto detect settings for yahoo, mine works fine and i'm not payin yahoo a cent for access
It does auto detect the pop stuff when I am setting up the email account, however I still get the "check password and user name" error.
i have no problems here...are you sure your putting in the right passworkd username?? lol iot happens to me also
Yahoo used to have a great add on app similar to windows live for hotmail but they put out a new one that blows and didn't allow you to sync your mail with outlook. Thats why I switched to hotmail. Plus i love being able to sync my contacts with my hotmail account.
there's another alternative,one of these threads shows how to direct all mail to a server and just set outlook to that to get everything you need from it
Well...to make me even more mad...I leave the house, go for a drive with the same "bad user name and password" and all of a sudden...BLING...I have mail! So I guess I have the right user name and password. WTF man? I just do not get it...and of course the knuckleheads at AT&T don't get it either. At least I have a non-bloatware phone now...stock ROM though.
Appreciate the help and continued comments.
stock rom shouldnt have to do with it but then again anything is possible these days.i never came across that issue with my old tornado,my 8125,hermes or my kaiser
At this point it still working, but I have little faith that it will continue as such.
Still reloading all my cabs after the reset...forgot I already put that much in this thing...might need to rethink it some. I will flash this sucker sometime soon...still have 20 days to return it if I am not happy.
Thanks again,
Well...that did not last long...it is back at it. Again with the "check your login and password" error. So, could there be a connection issue... ie. do I have to be in 3G to get email? I am on the edge of 3G coverage here.
I just do not get it.
since you get service on and off like that, it may be a different issue. being on 3g or not doesnt affect it, only affect the speed of your transfers.
at this point i dont get it either, maybe it's somethign wrong on Yahoo's end. could be blocking access to their yahoo mail service, making you sign up for their paid service or using thier new app yahoo 2.0 soon to be 3.0
I can't believe someone still uses Yahoo mail when there's Gmail.. It just boggles my mind.
yea i use gmail and comcast mail and have everything forwarded thats important to my gmail.i tend to use yahoo mail only for spam
Gmail has the best hands-down no-argument spam filter.
And charging people for POP3? Are you freaking ****ting me? What is this, 1980? How about charge them $1/email? Fraking ridiculous.
Well, I see you all don't like Yahoo...but that is what I use and I really like it...been using it for years. EVERYONE knows that email address and I I can't risk not having it for now.
But, this morning as I am talking AT&T about this thing...I explain that I have friends that get Yahoo mail...she says "it won't work, there is no way to do it"...then I tell her there is a forum where I posted this question and she says "look sir I do this for a living and I can assure you it will NOT work"...right then I get Yahoo mail on my phone. I tell her, "you might want to think about your line of work a little, or even switch careers and be a coffee jockey somewhere...cuz I JUST GOT YAHOO MAIL ON MY PHONE!!!".
Needless to say she was speechless for like 2 minutes. Then I concluded the call.
For most of today...while not in a 3G area...I got emails. I still don't get it.
I will look into the Gmail thing, however I just can't afford to not have my Yahoo account right now. Years ago I looked at Gmail and it was a joke...this was like 8 years ago or something...so I am sure it is greatly improved.
Thanks again for the help,
I get the same issue listed above, was there ever a fix for this. I've tried everything listed in the thread. I can't drop my Yahoo because I have way to many personal and business contacts linked to this e-mail. I just can't figure out why it is giving me password errors, any advice?
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Well, I see you all don't like Yahoo...but that is what I use and I really like it...been using it for years. EVERYONE knows that email address and I I can't risk not having it for now.
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Was using yahoo and hotmail for the longest time too so I understand your reluctance to switch, AFAIK you can set most these web mail services to forward mail to another address and also have a "reply to:" feature this will make it easier for you to migrate to a new address if ever you do decide to do so. I migrated to Gmail a few years back because they had free POP forwarding. Now that I don't have a PC at home I use my device for all my email. Currently I have 5 email accounts on my tytn2.
3 Gmail = 1 for personal , 1 for forums i join, 1 for mobile , 1 Live Hotmail = the occasional straggler emails, and 1 Yahoo = the occasional straggler emails.
Oh and I don't use POP anymore all of the above are IMAP [Gmail also has free IMAP forwarding]
Yahoo does not provide POP3 email forwarding unless you pay $20 a year for "MAIL PLUS"
see this
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/manage/manage-69.html
you can get your email here
http://us.m.yahoo.com/
on your browser
I got yahoo mail though the AT&T application XpressMail, it worked all the time and you can schedule it to check your email at an interval, its free i havent been charged whatsoever unless its because i use it through wifi. the great thing is it integrates with mobile outlook, i would advise installing that at least so your yahoo problems are solved
Yahoo Go
I used this one and it worked out well, Yahoo Go 2.0. I can't find the download link as i'm in a rush out the door. But this manages your yahoo mail rather well and has other nice features. When I get the my study spot I'll try to find the link and post it.
I have a new AT&T Tilt, straight out of the box with no modifications. I have it set up to track my Yahoo email account and my AIM account. However, both of them have big problems updating. On AIM, it takes almost a half-hour to receive or send a message after the message is actually sent. The email client is also telling me there are no new emails, even though I actually received emails in that account over four hours ago. I'm using the default IM client for AIM, because I have unlimited SMS with my plan, and I need to have AIM open all the time and be able to receive IMs even when the phone is asleep. I don't see why it should take this long regardless, considering I have three (or at least two) bars on EDGE at all times.
Does anyone else have this problem and/or know how to fix it, is possible? I need to be able to send and receive IMs and e-mails instantly at any time, and if the Tilt can't do that, then I need to find a different phone, which is a shame, because I really like the other features and the phone in general.
are you paying for your internet service?
Yes, I have a plan with unlimited data and SMS.
What is the deal with this phone? I just sent an email and it arrived over three hours later. I am required to have working email for my job, and this can hardly be considered working. What is wrong here? I don't see how all the other working professionals here can possibly be accepting of this and still consider it a good phone if it can't even handle simple email and IM. This is insane, considering no other phone offered by AT&T has this many useful features, and if I have to replace this phone it will certainly be a downgrade.
I don't think anyone else is having the same problems as you, which is why you're not finding anyone agree with your complaints.
Usually if you send an email and it arrives late, it's usually because of etiher the sending or receiving mail server, not because of the sending device. I have confidence that the email got from your phone to the email server just fine, and in a very reasonable amount of time.
Also, is there no 3G in your area?
AIM (instant messaging, not email) has always been delayed on all of the windows mobile devices I have used over the years (& on both Tmobile & at&t).
ATT is much faster than Tmob, but there is still a huge delay. That's why I stopped using IM'ing altogether.
As for emails, I set up an exchange email address on my website because for the last couple of weeks I have been unable to send or receive any emails through my AOL account. I have been going back & forth with AOL's tech support this whole time. My emails worked for a just one day during this whole time, & hasnt worked since! Whenever somebody emails me it tells them my mailbox is full even though I only have 29 emails! I erased all of the messages in my spam, sent & trash folders & still nothing. My AOL is what I have been using for many years for everything, its even on my website & all of my business card!
No as for the delayed messages, you may want to look into Push mail (using an exchange server). Do a search for it here & you'll see there are quite a few solutions (some free, some not). Push mail is essentially "instant" if you set it up that way & have decent reception.
I don't see how there could be problems with the email server, I'm using Yahoo mail, and I can send/receive emails fine with my PC, but if I email someone from my phone it take hours for them to get it, and if I receive an email, it takes hours for it to show up on the phone (though it still appears in my inbox instantly if I access it from my PC).
DJayRage, I'm not talking about delayed IMs, I'm talking about it would be FASTER for me to get in my car, drive across the state and tell them personally.
Also, I was told there was 3G in my area, but whenever I scan for service it auto-connects to EDGE, so I assume that's not the case.
I wish I could blame this on something other than my phone, but when it doesn't work, and nobody else is having this problem, I don't see what else there is to blame. Everything on my phone is stock. I'm using the Xpress mail thing or whatever it's called, and the 3-in-1 IM client that comes with the phone, so there aren't any 3rd party mods or anything that could be interfering.
Oh that may be your problem (Xpress mail). When I purchased my Tilt a couple of month's ago the ATT salesman told me not to use it because they've had nothing but problems with it. He wasn't specific, & I didn't ask what problems they were having. I use the built in mail app & that works fine for me. I get my Gmail, my Push mail & my AOL (when it's working) through there with no problems.
How do I do that? On the phone and in the instruction manual it said I needed to get the Xpress mail to check my yahoo mail. Also, do you think that using the built-in AIM client is what is causing the slowness, and that a 3-rd party app would work better?
Click on the envelope button on the button right hand side of your device. That opens up the default WM messaging application.
Once in there click menu - tools - new account. That's where you setup your accounts & options (since you want your emails sent & received as quickly as possible make sure to select "send & receive every 5 minutes". Also check off the the box in adanced settings that says "send mail when I click send" or something like that). Those options may drain your battery faster but that's about as quick as you can get emails, short of using a PC or setting up a Push Mail type account.
I never even opened up the manual that came with my Tilt. Any questions I had with my device I found answers for them here by searching (hint...)
Have you checked if you have 3G in your area?
I've yet to use the AIM app on my Tilt so I can't help you with that. Everytime I log-in to AIM I get random rappers spamming me trying to get me to check out their music.
How do I check if I have 3G in my area? Whenever I connect to the internet and it says searching for EDGE/3G, it always just connects to EDGE, so I assumed I don't get 3G. It's actually weird because other people have told me that we do get 3G around here.
Where are you located? You can check here to see if your area has 3G
http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/popUp_3g.jsp
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Click on the envelope button on the button right hand side of your device. That opens up the default WM messaging application.
Once in there click menu - tools - new account. That's where you setup your accounts & options (since you want your emails sent & received as quickly as possible make sure to select "send & receive every 5 minutes". Also check off the the box in adanced settings that says "send mail when I click send" or something like that). Those options may drain your battery faster but that's about as quick as you can get emails, short of using a PC or setting up a Push Mail type account.
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When I push the envelope button, it brings me to the same thing it brings me for my old email account. There is no Tools option in the menu, and when I click the new account button on the screen, it gives me the same setup I went through to set up my current account after installing the xpress mail thing. There is also no option in the options menu for the s&r every 5 mins or the other thing, either.
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i use im+ for iming. Its realtime and im on edge network with T-Mobile and no delays.
as for the email... maybe your push setting is at every few hours?
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Sorry for the delayed response but I'm still not getting my aol emails, which is what I registered on here with. Can you install Capsure (free app that you will find here with a quick search) & send me a screen shot of what your email inbox looks like? I never used Xpress mail, but it sounds like Xpress Mail took over the Envelope button so it goes there instead of the WM6 Inbox (default).
You may try reassinging it start > settings > personal > buttons > (mine shows button 2 assigned to "messaging", what does yours show?).
PS my email address that you can send the screen shot to is rage at djayrage.com
By the way there's an ATT store by my job & the sales guys come into the building I work at all the time (dropping off phones to clients) so I asked one of the them the other day more details about Xpress Mail (this was the same guy that sold me my phone & told me NOT TO use Xpress Mail).
He said Xpress Mail fetches your emails, stores it somewhere on ATT's server's, & then eventually "pushes" it to your device. (Opposite operation for emails being sent). So that may be what is causing the lengthy delays. You may have new emails sitting in your email providers inbox, but they may not be on Xpress Mail's servers yet.
Just use the default Messaging application & cut out the middle man (Xpress Mail).
Well, it was set to messaging, so I guess it wasn't using Xpress Mail after all, regardless, I uninstalled Xpress Mail, deleted my email account, and added it again, so hopefully it will work better this time.
I will also try IM+ as well and see if it works better.
Any updates? How's your emails working now?
Heya,
I just recently got the Fuze and also a first time user of the wimo OS and I just found out that I get charged for the IMs that i send through the default IM softwares. Is there any decent or good IM software out there for wimo? I have the unlimited data plan so I'd like to make the best of it. Thank you very much.
There's a plethora of programs for this purpose. Try looking for Sling, Octro Talk, Fring, IM+, etc. My personal program is BeeJive/JiveTalk.
Have a look here and here
does beejive and IM+ required to be paid for?
and among the freewares, which would you recommend the most?
I tried installing Beejive but for every message that comes in/or I send i receive a text message saying WVCI 1.1 aim. Any way to get rid of this?
For ICQ especially is the best solution software named Pigeon. For Push-to-talk conversation via internet use Palringo.
I ended up using EQO.. the only problem i have with it is the fact that i cant read what i typed down until i send it.. it seems to be a bug of some sort.
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I ended up using EQO.. the only problem i have with it is the fact that i cant read what i typed down until i send it.. it seems to be a bug of some sort.
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So far every aim client i've tried is doing the same thing. The one that comes with the fuze was great until i found out it uses SMS.
yeah. i found that out after wasting 10 or so txt msgs....
EQO is a pretty nice freeware IM and it seems like the landscape mode issue is present in all other IM software.. maybe it's a HTC thing.
might it have anything to do with the resolution of the phone? maybe the programs aren't optimzed for this res?
Slick messenger is free...... He supports ICQ, MSN, GTalk, Yahoo, AIM and Jabber.
I do love Palringo. It is very fast and can do everything you need!
Palringo
I have to agree with the previous poster. http://palringo.com - easily the best option out there. Tight integration, multiple accounts active on multiple services, includes AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, and Jabber/GTalk.
Only weird thing is that you have to create an account on their website first. But then if you ever move phones / reinstall, your profile includes all your accounts already. And you can send picture messages inline directly.
Personally I like IM+ the best, It has support for aim,msn,yahoo,googletalk,icq, and jabber. You do have to pay for it however.
edit, but now that ive seen palringo in the posts above i think my first impression is wow that looks a lot nicer than im+.
another vote for plaringo. i use it very often with the voice chat, picture now location (gps/cell tower trianglutaion) works on my desktop and ppc
One big minus for Palringo...it drains the battery very quickly. Instead that,it is perfect solution for voice messaging also via slow GPRS! and it's multiplatform(I use it with Hurricane and previously with Himalaya).
I don't think Palringo is all that big of a battery hog. I used to keep it on for hours at a time and never had any issues on my Kaiser. This was generally quick bursts of a dozen messages a couple times an hour.
But yes, my preferred IM client on Windows Mobile so far. Have not tried any of the for-pay ones. Yeah you do have to create an account, but it's because they want you to use their messaging service which seems like it would be very useful if you know anyone else with the program. It's multiplatform, and has media sharing and push-to-talk which I hear works decently well.
Palringo is my vote. I BOUGHT IM+ about 2 days b4 someone showed me Palringo. I was sad.
Only drawbacks for me is I use AOL IM alot. It doesn't keep my AOL directories. It just throws everything into "online" or "offline".
No vibration feature or light. I think IM+ had those.
I LOVE voice IMing. As long as you AIM someone with the sound on, they get a tag saying I sent a voice message. When they click on it, it plays back what I said. Very handy while driving.
Allows two different AIMs to be signed in. I like that. Sometimes I need work aim and home aim on.
Now I kinda use AOLIM client for Windows Mobile. Works fine. And has my directories.
+1 for Palringo
I've tried every PPC IM program out there and Palringo is the one I settled on. I'm very happy with it and it's free. They also continue to improve it and add features (though I'm very happy with it now).
-Mc
Oh. I dloaded IM+ since I havn't used it in about a year. They IMPROVED it. Now has a history, remembers my aol groups. Only thing still missing is vibration and teh ability to show AIM personal messages.
Finally, a viable messaging solution for android. The current version of Meebo for the android platform(V6) surpasses the quality of BuddyMob. I(along with others) have confirmed that there are no disconnects while phone is asleep, no forced closing, and no lost incoming messages while phone is asleep. Also, the best part is messages are received almost instantly without using sms. Pure data. I am sooo excited I could cry. Now I can say my G1 is finally a competititor in the pda market. Thank You Meebo!!!!!!!!!
You can find meebo in the Android Market.
Also, please post your results here. Maby the developer will see our support and improve the app.
Interesting. I had a few issues with Meebo that made me switch to BuddyMob instead. I will definitely check the new version of Meebo out.
Ugh. Unfortunately it still won't remember my ICQ UIN/password between sessions. I really can't be bothered to type that in manually every time I log on. It's a pity, because Meebo does seem to have improved a lot in other areas, like how it's now listing my contacts' nicknames instead of their UIN's.
after 2 days of use, I noticed the battery life is better with meebo.
mannyb, have you added this comment to the market? The dev might add the feature if he/she sees enough request for it. I noticed my requested features were added.
Also, for the U.K. users who are upset about the builtin IM missing some networks. This is a good free solution. If we get enough ppl supporting the dev this app would ROCK.
palringo is being worked on too.
Im alpha testing palringo. Its quite promising
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Im alpha testing palringo. Its quite promising
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GReat to hear. Is push-to-talk included? That would be awsome!
RC33 have AIM / ICQ / MSN / Yahoo included in IM
its there a way to get the meebo or build in msn connected in sleep mode via wifi? allways disconect
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RC33 have AIM / ICQ / MSN / Yahoo included in IM
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But the built in IM client really does suck, IMHO. Hard. I have a couple hundred buddies. (I use it for work and for play..) and have multiple accounts with multiple groups and I find that it takes forever to load, then populate with buddies... plus, the stock apps (as well as most of the other IM clients) insist on showing empty groups. So, I've got 15 empty groups showing...
Meebo combines all buddy lists in one, it's SUPER quick to load, can have more than one of each account signed in plus empty groups are ignored. I'm sold.
Plus, the built-in IM app uses text-message credits for both inbound and outbound IMs (with the exception of GTalk).
If Meebo would add Facebook chat to the Android client then this would be a no-brainer.
-tw
It has support for Facebook chat you just have to first set it up on meebo.com and then once you sign on with your Meebo account on the G1 your Facebook contacts will show up. I have tried it and it works well,.
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Plus, the built-in IM app uses text-message credits for both inbound and outbound IMs (with the exception of GTalk).
If Meebo would add Facebook chat to the Android client then this would be a no-brainer.
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Plus, the built-in IM app uses text-message credits for both inbound and outbound IMs (with the exception of GTalk).
If Meebo would add Facebook chat to the Android client then this would be a no-brainer.
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get an account on meebo.com and set up your facebook/aim/yahoo/msn/icq/myspace/etc... accounts. Then, sign in under "Meebo" on the android client and they're all there.
I know.
I know.
It's the ****.
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GReat to hear. Is push-to-talk included? That would be awsome!
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Palringo PTT looks to be coming but is not in the alpha release yet (icons there). It's coming along nicely, but far from complete. I love that with Palringo you log in to one Palringo account and bam, all your other accounts come up and log in. Pretty hawt.
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I love that with Palringo you log in to one Palringo account and bam, all your other accounts come up and log in. Pretty hawt.
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Meebo does that too. Choose "Meebo" from the drop down list on your phone and any IM networks that you have associated with the Meebo web account auto-log in. I currently have MySpace, Facebook, G-Talk, 2 yahoo accounts, AIM, ICQ and MSN.
(Damn, I sound like I work for the company. (I don't))
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Meebo does that too. Choose "Meebo" from the drop down list on your phone and any IM networks that you have associated with the Meebo web account auto-log in. I currently have MySpace, Facebook, G-Talk, 2 yahoo accounts, AIM, ICQ and MSN.
(Damn, I sound like I work for the company. (I don't))
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DO any of these apps allow for status updates in aim?
There is so far a HUGE issue with Meebo. There is NO status updating. You cannot go "Away" or "Idle" or any of that, nor can you post your own status. To me this is a major drawback that needs addressing. I tried BuddyMob, it didn't really work very well. Ill be waiting on an update for Meebo. (there was actually one today, but did not address the problem at hand.)
So you can in fact utilize facebook and Myspace messenger within meebo? How does this IM application effect battery life? Is it push messaging or is the application just constantly polling a server?
I haven't noticed any major battery draw while using it... I don't always have it on. As for changing statuses, I just don't think that's a big issue for me. It I'm not available for chat, I just turn the thing off. The only issue I have regarding meebo is the notification is always on even after I've logged off, saying I'm still "signed on with x number off accounts."
@gimpeh - yes, sign on via the website and create a meebo account and you can add facebook and myspace as well as yahoo AIM, ICQ, etc... . Then, on the G1, dont sign on to each account (yahoo and aim, etc..) just signon to "Meebo" and you'll signed onto all of your accounts at once.
So far, none of the IM clients - online or real apps - can handle being in an environment where they lose signal on a regular basis. My office building has scattered signal inside for T-Mobile, and if I walk to another office, I'm bound to lose signal for atleast 15-20seconds. None of the IM clients can handle this. The builtin GTalk is the best, by far though. It's atleast able to reconnect after losing signal. But I will leave Meebo running and come back 30min later (After walking around the building a little bit) and it will ALWAYS be disconnected.
Is it really that hard for the developers to poll whether there is signal every few minutes and try to reconnect? It seems like the apps that "claim" to do the polling tend to give up after a certain number of minutes.
In my opinion, all IM apps should continue to poll for an active connection until the radio is shut off. I know it would be a battery drain to a certain degree after a while, but I know many people who are in my situation where they lose signal for very short amounts of time several times a day.