Hi, I have a Tilt, and it came stock with these cabs in it that either add or remove a "hidden proxy". As most will I am sure I will err on the side of not having this "hidden proxy", however, I haven't seen any posts that talk about what it is.
Does anyone know what this "hidden proxy" is and what it is used for?
Wow no one really knows what it is?
AT&T maintains a "hidden proxy" to speed up browsing. This can cause issues with some software that uses the data connection however.
The purpose of the Hidden Proxy is to drive traffic to use the wsp protocol instead of HTTP. This is good for ATT and reduces bandwidth requirements. It's bad for you because while it speeds up some pages, it completely blocks those which do not suport the WSP protocol. (i.e. Google Reader)
Furthermore, if your phone is unlocked and in use on another network, it can choke your network performance to where it's unusable.
Sometimes when I am connected to my Tablet by ActiveSync and try to browse with my Tilt I have to disable the proxy to "pass through" and then enable it when I disconnect. I had a time for a while but discovered this:
http://www.htcwiki.com/page/Desktop+passthrough?t=anon
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OK so I thought I was halfway intelligent about all this but apparently not. I can't seem to get my internet sharing to allow me to tether on my new Tilt. I had it working fine on my Sprint Mogul so I know theoretically how to do it. I have the stock AT&T ROM (allowed customizations; just lazy about figuring out what I'd need of the customizations so I live with the bloat).
I created a shortcut for IntShrUI.exe in my \windows\start menu\programs folder to start the internet shar. I start Internet sharing and select USB and AT&T ISP GPRS (or MEdia Net; same result). It says connected and doesn't give me any errors but I can't seem to connect to anything from my PC or even ping anything. I'm using a Windows Vista PC. While internet sharing is connected I can connect to the web on the phone itself but not from the PC.
I was originally on "PDA Personal Max UNL + 1500 Messages" but I couldn't seem to connect to ISP.CINGULAR and I thought maybe that's why I couldn't tether (and I thought it'd probably prevent me from connecting to my corporate VPN). So I called in and the tech guy said that plan isn't provisioned for ISP.CINGULAR so he switched me to the "older" (his words) PDACnctUntlAdd which is the same price and includes ISP.CINGULAR but not 1500 messages. In hindsight I'm guessing that's not my problem (especially since it didn't fix it) and I'll prob go back to PDA Personal Max with the 1500 messages once I figure out the tethering and assuming it allows me to VPN.
My settings are:
AT&T ISP GPRS
Modem:
APN: isp.cingular
Username: [email protected]
Password: CINGULAR1 (doesn't show it but found that online)
Domain: blank
Advanced Settings:
TCP/IP: Use server-assigned IP Address
Use software compression: not checked
Use IP header compression: not checked
Servers: User server-assigned IP Address
Proxy Settings:
This network connects to the Internet: checked
This networks uses a proxy....: not checked
MEdia Net
Modem:
APN: wap.cingular
Username: [email protected]
Password: ????? (doesn't show it and never looked for online)
Domain: blank
Advanced Settings:
TCP/IP: Use server-assigned IP Address
Use software compression: not checked
Use IP header compression: not checked
Servers: User server-assigned IP Address
Proxy Settings:
This network connects to the Internet: checked
This networks uses a proxy....: not checked
I've tried to do it with the proxy disabled (running Disable Proxy from programs) and with it enabled with the same result.
So what can I be doing wrong? I'm sure it's something supremely stupid (if it's not a provisioning problem but how could it be that?) but I can't for the life of me figure out what I'm doing wrong.
Any help greatly appreciated and let me know if there's anything else you'd need to know to get this working.
If it matters I have the following installed:
Kaiser.HTC.Home.v2.0.814.722.HTCHome.Dir.With.Brig htness.Fix.Updated.01OCT2007-schen.cab
duttythroy HTC Audio Manager 1_2_816716.cab
duttythroy HTC Voice Recorder 1.10.1717.2221.cab
duttythroy HTC_SIM_Manager 6.31.cab
duttythroy Task Manager 2_0_30995_1.cab
HTC Touch Keyboard + Keypad.cab
Kaiser_BCR World_Card_1_0_070724b_x.cab
Vibra (Switch) 1.32.cab
ComMgr3G(10 Buttons)fixed.cab
cecmd.arm.cab (Total Commander beta 2.5 build 3)
HHCv10b5.CAB (HTC Home Customizer v1.0 beta 5)
LiveSearch.cab
Tillanosoft tGetFile.dll (for pocketnester)
Microsoft Office OneNote Mobile
RViewer.cab
Birdsoft All-in Hold-em
Google Maps
So your device says connected (and can surf the web) but your laptop wont connect?
So is your laptops firewall blocking the network?
Have you tried it over bluetooth, and use the BT PAN option. Select BT in ICS and click connect, and click YES to allow it to be discoverable, then in Vista, click start, connect to, Then click Set up a network or connection. Then scroll down to the bottom option (BT PAN). Click it and it will offer your device's BT PAN, select that and click connect.
Wait for 30 seconds, then open the web.
Solution from ATT-Connect your Laptop/PDA
Here ya go! Tried it myself with the usb. Workin good-ATT has a comm manager app that installs on the laptop.
Here's the link to the ATT support for it.
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesssupport/setupOTW.do?phone=ATTTilt
Alemaker
Thanks for your help; hadn't thought of turning off firewall since it worked with the mogul without doing that. Tried that and it didn't work. Then tried with bluetooth and that didn't work either. Didn't want to use the ATT comm manager on the off chance that they could track tethering usage on it.
And of course it was a stupid thing not to check but something made me try connecting to an IP address and not a URL and BAM! it worked. So I guess I have a DNS problem and not a connection problem.
So now anyone have an idea why the laptop can't resolve DNS but the Tilt can? Should I manually set free public DNS servers on the Tilt? Or on the laptop?
Vista you said? correct?
Try making the network that Vista sees when you connect-private; if it's public,it'll block stuff
Yeah, it's already set to private. Still no DNS resolution. I'm going to try using a free public DNS server on the PC. Strange that the Tilt isn't passing thru DNS for me but it seems it is for everyone else.
Well using the free DNS servers (208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220) seems to work now and it even seems to resolve DNS faster. I feel better that I figured out how to get it to work but I'm definitely confused as to why it doesn't work by default like it does for everyone else.
get tethering working yet?
hi,
i have the same issue. have unlimited data plan on my tilt. no problem with connection on my tilt (although i did not put in all that proxy setting crap att asks you to put in).
anyhow
- installed the htc modem driver on my laptop.
- turned on the modem on the tilt
- created a new dialup connection on my xp laptop
---> question here, what is the "phone number" that should be dialed???
--> for [email protected], password is CINGULAR1 also
as a last resort i will try using the att comm manager, but like you i don't really want to do it due to any tracking att may be doing...
would be great to hear if loading that local dns resolves your problem, altho it seems kinda clugey (sp?)
lol-
ya'all kill me.
Anything at all,including data; going through any major network in the U.S., is tracked- period. Cell calls,data,internet connections, and even landline calls are ALL tracked in the U.S. now. Thanks to the current administration, EVERYTHING is tracked.
Alemaker
I meant tracked in terms of tethered vs non-tethered (not being on a tethered plan; but then I tether about once a month when travelling in airports if that so I'm not worried about it). I know big brother is always watching (especially on AT&T):
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=3833172&page=1
@jprai I did get tethering working by just changing my DNS settings on the laptop to free servers. I'm not using wireless modem but the Internet Sharing app on the PocketPC (go to \Windows and copy the shortcut "internet sharing.lnk" to your \Windows\Start Menu\Programs directory and then you'll be able to start the app easily). It's much easier to use (well now that the DNS issue was figured out).
I'm still very curious why DNS isn't working for me with the default settings and it does for everyone else but I'm OK with this work-around for the time being.
erikk said:
I meant tracked in terms of tethered vs non-tethered (not being on a tethered plan; but then I tether about once a month when travelling in airports if that so I'm not worried about it). I know big brother is always watching (especially on AT&T):
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=3833172&page=1
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Sorry for gettin us off topic with this,p but, yup^^^^), and glad ya got tethering working!
Alemaker
erikk said:
Yeah, it's already set to private. Still no DNS resolution. I'm going to try using a free public DNS server on the PC. Strange that the Tilt isn't passing thru DNS for me but it seems it is for everyone else.
Well using the free DNS servers (208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220) seems to work now and it even seems to resolve DNS faster. I feel better that I figured out how to get it to work but I'm definitely confused as to why it doesn't work by default like it does for everyone else.
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This did the trick for me, thanks!
For those not fully aware of how to do this, connect your phone with ICS, go to network connections (control panel->network and sharing center->manage network connections), right click on the phone's connection (hover over them if you're not sure about which is which... mine said NDIS something or other), go to properties, click on TCP/IPv4, go to properties, and then give it the DNS addresses listed above.
Thanks!
-Taylor
I connect to 3G network and PIE, Media Net works well. I disconnect 3G and connect to WiFi, open PIE which is set to Media Net home page and popup reads "Cannot connect with current connection settings. To change your connection settings, tap Settings." It will not go to Media Net home page but most other websites (ie. google, weather channel etc...) work fine. Cingular video reads "having technical difficulties, try again later". Mobile CNN reads "Cnn wireless content is restricted. You may be attempting to access us from an unauthorized mobile service provider, or it could be that your service provider is authorized but has failed to register a new gateway IP with us."
That's with PIE. With 3rd party applications like XM Radio, Windows Live Search, they work well with WiFi but not with 3G. XM pops up "A network error has occurred. Please verify your cellular or WiFi connection is active and restart the app." Live Search will open but wont download maps or get directions.
I've done searches here and in different forums with no success. This happened before and after phone calls to AT&T, HTC then online chat with AT&T tech support I got it fixed with a hard restart. Then after downloading HTC Home Plugin, KaiserTweaks and remapping the PTT button, it started having the same connection problems again.
Now aside from doing another hard restart and having to dowload/install those CABs again, does anyone know how to fix this?
I know the AT&T/Cingular browser settings by heart, but this alone wont fix the problem.
https://www.wireless.att.com/support/knowledgeBase.do?content=KB84444.html
There has to be some missing settings perhaps on Start-Settings-Connections-Connections-Advanced-Select Network : "Programs that automatically connect to a private network should connect using:".
Thanks, I appreciate any help.
I know this is an old thread but I was just having the same problem with all my 3rd party apps.
Simple solution: Edit settings for AT&T ISP so that they match the media net settings. Basically change ISP to wap in adress and user name. leave the password as it is.
Im not sure why my 3rd party apps try to connect to ISP but since i cant figure that out this does the trick.
Hopefully this helps somebody. Im using Alex V5.20 CUBE
With my trusty old Ipaq 5550 i could, but for some reason i cant with my Kaiser.
I had a look in the manual but couldnt find this.
Any tips?
It should work automatically.
Perhaps in your comm manager, active sync is greyed out and needs to be enabled.
Or perhaps in your configuration screen: connections tab, usb on pc (or sometinglike that), you can (un)check a box about advanced network connectivity.
yes for me work You must change in Connections->Advanced->Select network first field where you have your ISP to My Work Network.
Stay0Puft said:
perhaps in your configuration screen: connections tab, usb on pc (or sometinglike that), you can (un)check a box about advanced network connectivity.
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EXACTLY.
Mine was checked, once i UNchecked it. I had internet conectivity.
I have all default and CHECKED use advanced network functionality and it works fine, even when syncing over bluetooth I can get to the internet through ActiveSync
Thanks, been wanting to do this for ages.
Now I have got it working.
Okay, this is a long message but I have had a unique problem in which I had to fiddle with activesync and my PDA for several days to figure it out. So in case this is your problem look here.
Scenario:
At my work we have a proxy server. When i connect my phone to my computer, even though activesync and my PDA are set to connect properly neither my phone nor my computers internet works. I fooled with this, posted on the forums and finally found a way to fix it.
Steps:
1)Change your PDA's advanced network settings in the network management area to BOTH be "mywork network". Do this before plugging in to activesync.
2)load an internet page with streaming content, or constantly refresh a web page if your work blocks all sites!
3)Ensure that your activesync is set to connect to the "work network".
4)Plug in your phone (be sure that data is still streaming on your desktop, if an active connection isn't streaming on your desktop Windows uses logarithms to decide which connection to use as an internet source).
5)Let activesync load and syncronize. Once it is syncronized, go back to your pda's network management page and change the two options BACK to MEdia Net or whatever data service you use on your cell phone. NOTE: Be sure that media is streaming all the way until you change your PDA's options BACK to the proper internet source for your phone and test it by loading a web page. Once the phone is set as it's own internet source and the desktop still has it's active LAN connection you should be golden.
I know you shouldn't have to do this but at least with my works network and their proxy server if i don't do it this way i will NEVER be able to use the internet on either device.
The reason for this is because of Microsoft's crappy network capabilities. In activesync 4.0 + they made activesync use an actual network connection, you can view it via the network connection page. So with some networks (not all) it tries to use your phones connection as the active internet network and vice versa at times.
Hope this helps somebody out there as this drove me nuts!
So far i'm the only person that has had the problem (on this forum, at least that has responded to my threads). But i'm sure there are a couple other people that have annoying problems with their work and activesync.
Thanks,
Luke
Thanks a lot alaiwy, worked just fine for me!
For the AT&T Tilt & AT&T ROM's you also need to disable the Proxy.
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yes for me work You must change in Connections->Advanced->Select network first field where you have your ISP to My Work Network.
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TY I was looking for this finally becuase that was getting very annoying as hell to me.
Hi all,
I've been at these forums a few weeks now and am starting to understand much about the PPC (I have a Tilt), software, ROM's etc.
But the one thing still confusing me is the Connection and Proxy Settings for AT&T.
Specifically, my phone has 4 connection set up: MediaNet/AT&T ISP/My Work Network/MY ISP. Why so many different settings and when are each one used or otherwise needed?
As for proxy settings, there seems to be 2. One setup in the phone connection settings, and then a "hidden" proxy. What are each of these used for and what are the advantages/disadvantes to turning each one off/on?
And finally how does WiFi fit into all of this, if at all?
Thanks in advance!
ok, i'm gonna take a stab at this see if i can get this right......pls feel free to correct me
AT&T isp - this one use the isp.cingular gateway, it is basically the one you use if you have a tethering plan (now tethering without a thethering plan is a whole different story altogether)
MediaNet - this uses the wap.cingular gateway, and you use this if you have a medianet unlimited or pda personal unlimited plan
My Work Network - use this if you want to connect to a vpn network
My ISP - this one has no connection setting whatsoever (at least for at&t) and just leave it at this one if you dont have a data plan and just want to use wifi.
the hidden proxy......its used if you want to access at&t services such as cingular video and the medianet homepage, as for the "other proxy" you mentioned......i have no idea what will happen if you disable it, i just leave it as it is.
I have an OEM HTC Kaiser with no mods whatsoever ( I dont want any awwww Sh%$ts!!) I go to the ATT website, Support by Device for my connection answers and nice screenshots on the settings. I think there is only one that didn't apply to my device...the hidden proxy one. Seems to help me with my problems
Those connection settings get me going too!
for the hidden proxy, you just need to find the enable proxy and disable proxy cabs. you can make shortcuts to both cabs in your start menu or wherever for easy access (just like the at&t roms). those cabs are all over the forums......search for it
I’m here on the coast at Keesler Air Force base. There is no internet to speak of and I do not want to spend roughly $1,400 to obtain it through a Cell provider for my laptop. I setup the Internet Sharing on my TILT and it works somewhat. Well, I lied. It stays “connected” however the damn thing peers off and the laptop continuously loses connectivity.
I only use Skype and sometimes webmail with the Internet Sharing and it cannot handle it. Every minute, sometimes up to six minutes, Skype videocalls and standard webcalls are dropped and I test the internet connection to see that it’s timing out for another minute or so and then it magically reappears.
I closed all applications and the antivirus crap to ensure that there was no extra throughput bandwidth. Anyway, I’m about to lose my damn mind here because I cannot stay in contact with my fiancée who’s on the other side of the globe right now.
According to the phone I’m only getting the Edge network and that makes sense as there are not 3G towers nearby. The signal continually shifts from two bars to four bars. I have used the Kraiser Tweak to enable HDSPA but that service is not being picked up.
Any ideas as to how I can keep the connectivity from dropping between the cellphone and the laptop? I assume that’s the issue as the phone stays “Status: connected” within the Internet Sharing application.
If it matters, I can only use the "Media Net" option under Network Connections. Media Net utilizes the wap.cingular access point.
I have tried to use the "ATT ISP GPRS" option but it continually loops through attempts to connect to the internet. Eventually it gives up without any success. The ATT ISP GPRS uses the isp.cingular access point.
Please any assistance would be most appreciated. This United States Airman is about to lose is frigging mind over the fact that he can’t communicate with anyone any longer. Ugh!!!
Thanks to any thoughts and advice to better my situation...
Oh and for the record, if it isn't understood being a Tilt, my provider is ATT.
HSDPA will not work without 3G service. MEdia Net is the best way to tether, I use it all the time. Make sure the proxy option is unchecked, or you will get very poor speeds and high latency.
What do you mean by HSDPA? Also, I tried with MEDIANET but I continually lost connectivity. However, ATT ISP GPRS seems just as bad if not worse. Any thoughts on something I can do to boost connectivity? I don't know about the proxy but where I looked one is NOT enabled.
I enabled IP Compression and Software Compression for ATT ISP GPRS and it hasn't seem to have any affect...
Thanks a lot.
crypted said:
What do you mean by HSDPA? Also, I tried with MEDIANET but I continually lost connectivity. However, ATT ISP GPRS seems just as bad if not worse. Any thoughts on something I can do to boost connectivity? I don't know about the proxy but where I looked one is NOT enabled.
I enabled IP Compression and Software Compression for ATT ISP GPRS and it hasn't seem to have any affect...
Thanks a lot.
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You mentioned HSDPA, so that's why I said it. As for ATT ISP GPRS, you do not want to use that unless you have a modem tethering option on your AT&T account. If you go under MEdia Net settings, and then check the Proxy tab, make sure the proxy option is unchecked.
Allrighty, I've confirmed that the Proxy is not enabled. The only thing on the Proxy option section that is enabled is the first option where it says this network connects to the internet.
Any ideas on stabilizing internet on a 2 - 3 bar Edge network? If I do more than one task (more than one website OR a website and Skype) the internet gets lost quite easily...
Thanks a lot man.
Wow when I was over that way I dont recall have any issues with ATT and internet. When I access the net while tethered I use the ATT program that connects via laptop... Its not the internet sharing program.... Its called ATT Communication Manager... It may read as being tethered so if you dont have tethering on your plan then I dont know if id use it. If you have tethering it works great for me. Heres a link for the download...
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesssupport/setupOTW.do?phone=ATTTilt
You might want to try flashing another rom and radio. I remember I had an issue similar to this with my hermes from ATT. Swapping to another radio can definitely boost your signal quality. If your signal drops too low even for a second, it can cause major latency issues on the edge network( which WILL cause skype to dop a call ) . I recommend trying a ROM that already has a radio packaged in with it to save you the trouble of having to match a radio to a rom. Also look for one that has the network configuration cab built in so it can automatically set up your Connection settings for you.
Hope this helps
Allrighty... I don't have much time to research ROMS or RADIOS unfortunately. Any suggestions on where to find them, or what I might use? I'd almost prefer just to change RADIOS so long as I can find the original RADIO to replace any changes back to what I was using...
Currently, I have:
ROM 1.62.502.0
RADIO 1.27.14.09
Any help to further this US Airman along would be appreciated.
Thanks.