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Wizard stuck at splash screen!!! DEAD!

Hi,
I accidentally flashed a not CID unlocked wizard with Black Diamond rom using a ShellTool - now it loads only till windows splash screen!
It is G3 device - it allows to flash Buton rom, also MiniSrom and others - process bar goes to 100% but windows doesn't boot anyway!
What options do I have?
PS. I guess I'm one of the guy who have bricked the most devices ever - this one, 3x HTC Tytn, S200, etc.

Need QTEK 9100 German Rom - the wiki links are dead!
Can anybody please advise where to look for Qtek 9100 german rom?!!!

It is G3 device - it allows to flash Buton rom, also MiniSrom and others - process bar goes to 100% but windows doesn't boot anyway!
What options do I have?
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Have a look for the SD Card Backup method - see also in the wiki for reference/link.

hi, thanks for the replay!
How does the SD card method is supposed to work? Do I need a backup of the old rom? I don't have one!
The phone is NOT cid unlcoked!

After a while playing with the Wizards I have found some things - I got 4 wizards by now - and I have managed to brick 2 of them.
First thing to recommend to all - if your Wizard is running and everything is fine - then don't upgrade - you don't need that brick. Trough if you try to upgrade and you can't get from wm5 to wm6 - then probably you should stop trying unless you want to brick your device totally!!!!
Now I have one Wizard G3 probaby not CID unlocked with IPL 1.01 / SPL 1.03 and different OS versions - I can flash button Rom, Wizard Love etc. but nothing changes, just the version of the OS. I have no GSM and the IPL stays 0.01.
The second one - seems to be CID unlocked - allows to flash any rom, IPL changes, SPL stays at 3.08 - can't downgrade, OS changes - can't boot!
I can flash these units forever, I can change bootscreens - but I can't get back to windows!
This happened when I tried to use ShellTool to flash WM6 on my Wizards - don't do that!!!!
Can anybody tell me why I'm not able to boot OS if I have the Wizard Love rom, button rom and other full working roms on my wizards?
Thanks!
PS. I'm starting to consider to donate a few devices to someone who could try to solve this - I could donate: 3 HTC Tytn, 2 Wizards, 2 Prophets, 2 Alpine etc. - is anybody interested?

karlux - I'd be willing to take a crack at the devices you have and get some good documentation going for everyone. I have successfully revived Wizards, Apache, Wallaby, and the Hurricane so far.
PM/Email me if you want my address to send the victims ...er ... I mean "patients".

donate? how about sending one my way?

karlux said:
After a while playing with the Wizards I have found some things - I got 4 wizards by now - and I have managed to brick 2 of them.
First thing to recommend to all - if your Wizard is running and everything is fine - then don't upgrade - you don't need that brick. Trough if you try to upgrade and you can't get from wm5 to wm6 - then probably you should stop trying unless you want to brick your device totally!!!!
Now I have one Wizard G3 probaby not CID unlocked with IPL 1.01 / SPL 1.03 and different OS versions - I can flash button Rom, Wizard Love etc. but nothing changes, just the version of the OS. I have no GSM and the IPL stays 0.01.
The second one - seems to be CID unlocked - allows to flash any rom, IPL changes, SPL stays at 3.08 - can't downgrade, OS changes - can't boot!
I can flash these units forever, I can change bootscreens - but I can't get back to windows!
This happened when I tried to use ShellTool to flash WM6 on my Wizards - don't do that!!!!
Can anybody tell me why I'm not able to boot OS if I have the Wizard Love rom, button rom and other full working roms on my wizards?
Thanks!
PS. I'm starting to consider to donate a few devices to someone who could try to solve this - I could donate: 3 HTC Tytn, 2 Wizards, 2 Prophets, 2 Alpine etc. - is anybody interested?
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How come you have that many devices ? What's your job ?
Your "dead" wizard is not dead. Only stuck. Get it into bootloader and re-flash .

karlux said:
After a while playing with the Wizards I have found some things - I got 4 wizards by now - and I have managed to brick 2 of them.
First thing to recommend to all - if your Wizard is running and everything is fine - then don't upgrade - you don't need that brick. Trough if you try to upgrade and you can't get from wm5 to wm6 - then probably you should stop trying unless you want to brick your device totally!!!!
Now I have one Wizard G3 probaby not CID unlocked with IPL 1.01 / SPL 1.03 and different OS versions - I can flash button Rom, Wizard Love etc. but nothing changes, just the version of the OS. I have no GSM and the IPL stays 0.01.
The second one - seems to be CID unlocked - allows to flash any rom, IPL changes, SPL stays at 3.08 - can't downgrade, OS changes - can't boot!
I can flash these units forever, I can change bootscreens - but I can't get back to windows!
This happened when I tried to use ShellTool to flash WM6 on my Wizards - don't do that!!!!
Can anybody tell me why I'm not able to boot OS if I have the Wizard Love rom, button rom and other full working roms on my wizards?
Thanks!
PS. I'm starting to consider to donate a few devices to someone who could try to solve this - I could donate: 3 HTC Tytn, 2 Wizards, 2 Prophets, 2 Alpine etc. - is anybody interested?
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Shelltool isn't dangerous if you use it properly, meaning you can't flash WM6 if the IPL/SPl are still in 1.xx
To use the SD card method and the phone is CID locked then i recommend using imeicheck's tool to CID unlock (must pay) and then try that method.
As for the donation, i wouldn't mind geeting a Prophet as they are related to the Wizard and in case it could be recovered i could try to make a similar tool to WST: the Prophet Service Tool
let me know if you'd like PM or other means of contact...
cheers

sorry-thread hijacking-
I have a similar problem, i (thought) i had CID unlocked my wizard, followed all the instructions, about reflashing the rom's went to 1.05 the to 2.26 & then IPL & SPL to 3.08 in an attempt to flash WM6..
all went well until the last step & it got to 99% of flashing WM6 & came up with a communication error (battery is fully charged!)
Now im stuck in bootloader, & can't re flash any other roms, tried the wizard with love & 1.05 again ...noting doing... have i made a complete brick ??
HELP!!!!!!!
edit, just tried with the O2 offical upgrade...it started to load on but came up with Error 296 Upgrade Only, the NBF file could not be used...

TRY THIS .... I just recovered from a similar stuck in BootLoader issue.
Steps to recovery:
1. Fully charge your phone (VIA Power Cord ... NOT USB)
2. Get the phone to bootloader (three color mode) - by soft resetting and holding the camera button at the same time
2. Connect it to the computer (Windows XP) with a USB cable
3. You will notice "USB" written in a lower corner of the phone (this means it is connected)
4. Download your providers ROM (The "real" rom provided by Cingular/ATT). You can get the one for the 8125 from HTCAmerica here: http://www.htcamerica.net/support/8125/software-downloads.html
5. Stop ActiveSync (from Task Manager)
6. Run the program downloaded in step 4. This will reflash your phone with the ROM. This seems to be the ONLY WAY possible to reload a ROM from BootLoader.
Enjoy!

Thanks, i;ve tried that with this software & the o2 software....i get the same error message both times...
Error296 UPGRADE ONLY,
This NBF File cannot be used on you PDA Phone,
Please get a newer NBF file.
WTF is a NBF file, where do i get a newer one from & how do i get it on the device!!!
thanks
Zpyro said:
TRY THIS .... I just recovered from a similar stuck in BootLoader issue.
Steps to recovery:
1. Fully charge your phone (VIA Power Cord ... NOT USB)
2. Get the phone to bootloader (three color mode) - by soft resetting and holding the camera button at the same time
2. Connect it to the computer (Windows XP) with a USB cable
3. You will notice "USB" written in a lower corner of the phone (this means it is connected)
4. Download your providers ROM (The "real" rom provided by Cingular/ATT). You can get the one for the 8125 from HTCAmerica here: http://www.htcamerica.net/support/8125/software-downloads.html
5. Stop ActiveSync (from Task Manager)
6. Run the program downloaded in step 4. This will reflash your phone with the ROM. This seems to be the ONLY WAY possible to reload a ROM from BootLoader.
Enjoy!
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What is the make/model of your phone?
A nbf file is the file that gets flashed onto the phone (nk.nbf)

it was an xda mini s....i tried loading WM6 & came unstuck.....

huhu
karlux said:
Hi,
I accidentally flashed a not CID unlocked wizard with Black Diamond rom using a ShellTool - now it loads only till windows splash screen!
It is G3 device - it allows to flash Buton rom, also MiniSrom and others - process bar goes to 100% but windows doesn't boot anyway!
What options do I have?
PS. I guess I'm one of the guy who have bricked the most devices ever - this one, 3x HTC Tytn, S200, etc.
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me too....!

markm2 said:
Thanks, i;ve tried that with this software & the o2 software....i get the same error message both times...
Error296 UPGRADE ONLY,
This NBF File cannot be used on you PDA Phone,
Please get a newer NBF file.
WTF is a NBF file, where do i get a newer one from & how do i get it on the device!!!
thanks
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Hey!
I believe,as u have mentioned in ur earlier post that u have upgraded to ipl/spl 3.08,therefore all the official roms r not flashing.Well its not necessary to upgrade to ipl/spl 3.08 to go for wm6.All the experts & cooks in all their threads have mentioned to upgrade to ipl/spl 2.26 to have a stable/strong working plateform, so now I wud suggest u to plz try to flash Buttons's rom 1.05 and get back to ipl/spl 1.05 than onward upgrade to ipl/spl 2.26 by flashing t_mobile 2.26.
If u r able to get back to ipl/spl 1.05,than again use lokiwiz to confirm CID unlock,hope this works out. U can also use the latest WST tool by mestrini to check the status of ur wizzard as if its cid locked or unlocked.it can also be used to unlock cid,goodluck

zabardast_1 said:
Hey!
I believe,as u have mentioned in ur earlier post that u have upgraded to ipl/spl 3.08,therefore all the official roms r not flashing.Well its not necessary to upgrade to ipl/spl 3.08 to go for wm6.All the experts & cooks in all their threads have mentioned to upgrade to ipl/spl 2.26 to have a stable/strong working plateform, so now I wud suggest u to plz try to flash Buttons's rom 1.05 and get back to ipl/spl 1.05 than onward upgrade to ipl/spl 2.26 by flashing t_mobile 2.26.
If u r able to get back to ipl/spl 1.05,than again use lokiwiz to confirm CID unlock,hope this works out. U can also use the latest WST tool by mestrini to check the status of ur wizzard as if its cid locked or unlocked.it can also be used to unlock cid,goodluck
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I just want to add that you MUST stop at 2.xx bootloader when downgrading from 3.08 to 1.xx, otherwise you might end up with a 'locked' SPL in 3.08

you need donate the device ....

I just want to add that you MUST stop at 2.xx bootloader when downgrading from 3.08 to 1.xx, otherwise you might end up with a 'locked' SPL in 3.08
YUP!!
Thanks Mestrini
very wise & valuable advise
Btw, very valuable tool it is WST TOOL,made our lives soooo simple

zabardast_1 said:
I just want to add that you MUST stop at 2.xx bootloader when downgrading from 3.08 to 1.xx, otherwise you might end up with a 'locked' SPL in 3.08
YUP!!
Thanks Mestrini
very wise & valuable advise
Btw, very valuable tool it is WST TOOL,made our lives soooo simple
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Tx m8, that's why i made it and i'm glad you like it.

ROM upgrade problems please help!

Hi, Ive looked around the forum and cannot find a solution to my problem. Ok, step by step here is what I did: I used the button 1.05 custom ROM, this was installed successfully. Then I used the definitive guide to unlocking the G3 wizard using the lokiwiz tool and this was successful as far as I know. I then upgraded to the t - mobile 3.08 ROM as this was recommended before upgrading to a WM6 ROM. This is where the problems began. I tried to flash Faria's WM6 crossbow rom and partway through the flash it hung and got stuck in bootloader mode. I read around the forums and tried to downgrade back to button 1.05, the tmobile 3.08 rom, and also the cingular 2.25 rom. The furthest I got was about 49% on the progress when my phone returns to the bootloader screen. My phone always seems to do one of two things: I either get a communication error "with my pc" which starts the recovery process(which never actually works) or I get error 274 which says that I am no longer connected to my pc (even though it still says "usb" on the screen of my pocket pc. I know that my battery will soon run out and I will have to buy a new one to resume trying to get my phone to work again. I ve also uninstalled active sync, re- down loaded and installed it, rebooted my computer (as was suggested) and this didnt work. Some one please help me as I am pretty new at this and cannot find this exact issue on the forums. Any help will be greatly appreciated!!!

Try to flash on another PC.

Ok I've tried to flash it on 3 different PCs and I havent been able to make it work, any other suggestions?

You have misread and misunderstood the definitive guide.You are confusing T-mobile 2.26 and IPL/SPL 3.08,its T-mobile 2.26 and not T-mobile 3.08. T-mobile 2.26 is a Rom ,an OS (Operating System) and IPL/SPL 3.08 are the latest upgrades to Bootloaders and not a rom.
Now,after downgrading with Button's Rom 1.05,your phone's IPL/SPL must have been 1.05,then you applied lokiwiz02b to SIM/CID unlock the phone,but ipl/spl must have remained 1.05 as you had Button's Rom 1.05 installed on your phone.
In order to upgrade to wm6,its required to have IPL/SPL 2.xx,so you were supposed to flash T-mobile 2.26 to get your IPL/SPL 2.26,but,instead of flashing t-mobile 2.26,you flashed IPL/SPL 3.08,so you have now IPL/SPL 3.08,correct ?
IPL/SPL 3.08 is an option to upgrade your IPL/SPL (Bootloaders) but upgrading to T-mobile 2.26 is recommended,so that you get IPL/SPL 2.xx to upgrade to wm6.There's your mistake,got my point ?
So,now try to downgrade to ipl/spl 2.xx or 1.xx,to do so,download the official carrier's rom of your phone from it's website and flash to get back to its original default status.
After that reread the guide correctly and follow the method.
Good luck

Thanks for your help, I'll try that and let you know how it turns out.

OK i downloaded the official cingular ROM 2.25 and attempted to flash it. I got about 76% done and got a communication error. I've tried to do it several times since then with no luck. However, my ipl and spl did change to 2.25. What should I do now?

Anybody have any suggestions? I'm dying here guys I would really appreciate some help, thanks

ok,get into Bootloaders (tricolor screen)check usb appear at the bottom of bootloaders,,try to get down to ipl/spl 1.xx,first try with button's rom,if it works,fine,otherwise try xda_minis_launch rom or wizard_love rom,if any of them installs,download WST tool and check the status of your phone by hitting the 'CID Action' button.It'll verify if your phone is locked or unlocked,ok,if unlocked then flash t_mobile 2.26 and if locked,run the lokiwiz02b again to unlock.
while flashing,turn off any antivirus,firewall and don't surf the net,check email or play any games.Leave the phone and pc alone.Must have a fully charged battery.Delete partnership with activesync and uncheck 'Allow usb connection' in the activesync,it helps sometimes.Try with a different usb cable or plugin usb cable in other usb input slot of the pc.I do hope,it might do the trick and work out fine.
Good luck

Help... MDA stuck in bootup

ok so after reading many many times and attempting to flash to 1.05 which worked but i was never able to upgrade. I used the shell tool to try and get XM6R5 to flash and it locked up. since then the phone now starts to boot but locks in on the button rom (from button with love) and shows
IPL 1.05
SPL 3.08
GSM 01.12.10
OS 1.5.4.2
After sitting on this bootup screen for over a minute the picture looks shaky??
So i attempted to reflash to 1.05 again and it goes all the way to 100% and tells me successful and reboots then locks up! So i try to flash back to Tmobile rom and i get a 296 error: ERROR {296} : UPGRADE ONLY This NBF file cannot be used for your PDA phone. please get new NBF file.
The usb and active sync wont work either.
I even held the comm and voice button and pushed reset and tried to format and it says format failed.
Please help, i now wish i never attempted to flash to WM6. This is a brand new replacement MDA and i figured i would attempt to upgrade it before i did anything and now it seems locked!

ok,as long as it gets stuck at the loading splash screen of button's rom,it ain't dead yet.
First,how did you get SPL 3,08 ?,did you flash the ipl/spl 3.08 before flashing the button's rom 1,05 ?
Secondly,There was no need to upgrade with 'Shell Tool',after downgrading to ipl/spl 1.xx by button's rom,you shud have used 'lokiwiz02b' to SIM/CID unlock the phone and upgraded to any wm6 Rom.Try to get the phone in bootloaders mode(Tricolor screen),if it gets there,download the official carrier's rom of your phone from its website and flash it in the bootloaders to bring the phone back to its default status.After that downgrade with button's rom 1.05 and SIM/CID unlock your phone with 'lokiwiz02b' and upgrade to wm6.

its very hard to brick it fortunatly
let us know if you succeeded , it might help others

I flashed to 1.05, then tried tmobile 2.26, once i did that i upgraded to 3.08 which made ipl/spl 3.08. I tried several times to reflash to 1.05 again and the ipl changed back but the spl stays at 3.08. I have flashed several times to 1.05 and the spl will not change from 3.08(how can i make it do this) So now that the 3.08 is stuck there the original tmobile rom wont install and it gives me a 296 error when attempted.
I have taken the battery out and gotten into bootloader on reboot however, when i flash to 1.05 or tmobile and it goes thru the cycle... once it gets to 100%(I also get the pop up that says upgrade successful and hit ok) the phone reboots and then gets stuck again in the splash screen?!?! then the screen gets shaky looking as well?

oh and i used the shell tool because everytime i downloaded the button rom the ipl only changed to 1.05 the spl would never change from 2.26 to 1.05 and i tried several times to flash. then using lokiwiz2b it would NEVER unlock the phone. Kept giving me an internal error. Maybe because the extracting of lokiwiz automatically would open the program when i downloaded in mozilla firefox? is this IE use only maybe?
So anyhow i thot shell tool would be best to use since i couldnt unlock it. Guesss not.
I wish one of you guys lived right down the street so we could do this together or maybe i just call one of you geniouses

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oh and i used the shell tool because everytime i downloaded the button rom the ipl only changed to 1.05 the spl would never change from 2.26 to 1.05 and i tried several times to flash. then using lokiwiz2b it would NEVER unlock the phone. Kept giving me an internal error. Maybe because the extracting of lokiwiz automatically would open the program when i downloaded in mozilla firefox? is this IE use only maybe?
So anyhow i thot shell tool would be best to use since i couldnt unlock it. Guesss not.
I wish one of you guys lived right down the street so we could do this together or maybe i just call one of you geniouses
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hmmmm, thats the mistake.After downgrading to ipl/spl 1.xx after flashing button's 1.05,you shud have first sim/cid unlocked the phone and then flashed t-mobile 2,26 to upgrade to ipl/spl 2.xx.Then shud have upgraded to any wm6 roms,upgrading to ipl/spl 3.08 is not at all necessary for upgrading to wm6,but an option,where as,ipl/spl 2.xx is only required for wm6 upgrading.
You,instead,of getting your phone sim/cid unlocked,flashed and upgraded to 3.08,but to sim/cid unlock,its required to have 1.xx,now it won't downgrade to 1.xx with button's rom.Its very commonly observed that after upgrading to 3.08 without getting the phone sim/cid unlocked,it becomes a pain in a** to downgrade to 1.xx and unlock.Now its a catch22 situation,where it doesn't downgrade to 1.xx for unlocking and nor accepting any other rom flash,its stuck at splash screen at 3.08.
Now,the only solution is to get the phone back to its default status.Try to flash either official stock rom,button's rom,if button's don't work,try the xda_minis_launch rom or the wizard_love_rom in the bootloaders mode.You got to keep your patience and it might take several flashes with either of these roms to get through.
Good luck !!!

thank you, im going to attempt all this now, ill keep everyone posted!

ok heres the scoop...
ive tried the tmobile official rom 2.26 upgrade and the xda_minis_launch rom and the wizard_love_rom (Love rom seems to be in a foreign language and gives a error 300) in the bootloaders mode and every time it will refuse to read the usb and gives me either a 264 or 296 error with these roms. Not sure why the phone says its not connected for the above roms but will read buttons rom still saying its not connected
The only rom that seems to read for whatever reason is buttons rom and i have flashed it 5 times at least now and always tells me it works but then gets stuck in bootloader with a glass of beer and the same ipl-1.01 spl- 3.08 gsm- 01.12.10 os- 1.5.4.2
so i dont know what to do!! there must be someway to get this thing to work!

Yes ! I understand it sometimes becomes very annoying and frustrating,but you got to keep cool. believe me and I can assure you there's nothing wrong with your phone as long as it can get into bootloaders.It's just that the bootloaders have got corrupted and stuck on spl 3.08,its only spl 3.08 which is creating all the problem,untill and unless it doesn't downgrade to either spl 1.xx or 2.xx,it'll not be possible to flash any other rom.now the only way to get the bootloaders corrected is to flash any official rom to bring both ipl/spl to 1.xx or 2.xx.
ok,when you get the phone in bootloaders and connect the phone via usb,does a small usb appear at the bottom of the bootloaders screen ? forget about the activesync for a while,cuz activesync doesn't work or get connected in bootloaders.The only way to verify if the phone has established connectivity with the pc is to verify if usb appears in the bootloaders.Rather I'll suggest you to delete the partnership with pc in activesync and uncheck the option 'allow usb connections' in the Async.If its verified that usb appears and has connection in bootloaders then you are good to go and run RUU,but if there's a problem and it doesn't show in bootloaders then your usb is not establishing proper connection.In that case,either the usb cable is faulty or the mini usb port of the phone is damaged.Check and verify this.
Secondly,lets try to flash the Rom with replaced RUU like 'RomUpdateUtility_wizard_Noid', or 'newromupdateutility_wizard_noid' or 'Ruu_Mun',you can find them in the forum.Either copy and replace it with ruu in the rom or copy and past 'nk_nbf' in the rom to the folder of these RUU and try to flash in the bootloaders,but first confirm the connectivity of the phone via usb as explained above. Hope this might do the trick,lets hope so!!!
Cheers!

I had a same problem like you. Here is the solution: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276963
not my idea. Works great. Martin

maty said:
I had a same problem like you. Here is the solution: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276963
not my idea. Works great. Martin
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ok,was your phone CID unlocked when you did back up with sdcard using 'Mtty' program ? cuz its not possible to go through recovering back by this method if the phone is CID locked,the rom will not back up to sdcard,it'll give error.Here his phone is still Cid locked and he has upgraded to 3.08,now it won't let him downgrade to ipl/spl 1.xx to use lokiwiz02b and SIM/CID unlock his phone.
Cheers!

ok here is the problem im having now. ANY ROM i attempt to flash to in bootloaders mode or 3 colored screen WILL NOT WORK! it gives me a 264 error on any of them besides button rom. I have tried several times to upload tmobiles official rom and it tells me i have to get a newer nbf file!
I pop the battery out and wait a few seconds and then hold camera button and power, (now in bootloaders) i then plug in usb and the USB letters do show on the bottom left hand side. I also disabled allow usb connection on active sync.
i wish i understood why no other rom except buttons will flash? even muns ruu wont work, it gives me a 300 error invalid update tool!

Help on Cingular 8125

I have bought this old phone coz it costs less than other cellphones with Wi-fi. What I really need is to install or have Voip/sip in it. But browsing and searching for answers on how to put voip in it made me stumble on this forum
i've been reading these past few days and as I read on, I am learning something and also being more confused for all the terms and other stuffs.
I would appreciate if somebody could help me.
What I have is unlocked Cingular 8125 (using my own sim via a local network here in Saipan, USA) with the following:
WM5.0 OS 5.1.195 (Build 14928.2.2.0)
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
I checked other posts and this page and found below which are not compatible with my device:
If your IPL/SPL numbers are in the form X.xx (i.e 2.26, 1.08, etc.) you have a G3
If your IPL/SPL numbers are in the form X.xx.xxx1 (i.e. 2.26.0001), you have a G4
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and also below:
Download the appropriate IPL/SPL based on your device and carrier.
T-Mobile MDA G4 IPL&SPL.zip
AT&T 8125 G4 IPL&SPL.zip
Vodafone Qtek 9100 G4 IPl&SPL.zip
Orange SPV M3000 G4 IPL&SPL.zip
O2 XDA Mini S G4 IPL&SPL.zip
Depending on your device and Carrier, download the appropriate Rom for your device:
T-Mobile MDA Official WM5 Rom
AT&T 8125 Official WM5 Rom
Vodafone Qtek 9100 Official WM5 Rom
Orange SPV M3000 Official WM5 Rom
O2 XDA Mini S Official WM5 Rom
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Again, I only need to have voip/sip working so I can call my family in the PHilippines and Canada for free. But I think the ways to have it are so far from now so I would appreciate a lot of help you can give me.
By the way, I am a contract worker and dont have much money so I need to make this thing work and can't afford to pay for somebody who could do this for me.
Thank you so much.

ok,
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
"If your IPL/SPL numbers are in the form X.xx (i.e 2.26, 1.08, etc.) you have a G3",as your's is 2.25 it means X.xx,its a G3 device,so don't bother to read or be concerned about G4 devices,only read and follow the threads and procedures concerning G3 devices,it'll lessen the burden on your mind and make things more clear.
T-Mobile MDA G4 IPL&SPL.zip
AT&T 8125 G4 IPL&SPL.zip
Vodafone Qtek 9100 G4 IPl&SPL.zip
Orange SPV M3000 G4 IPL&SPL.zip
O2 XDA Mini S G4 IPL&SPL.zip
These are IPL/SPL (Bootloaders) for G4 phones,none of your concern.
Depending on your device and Carrier, download the appropriate Rom for your device:
T-Mobile MDA Official WM5 Rom
AT&T 8125 Official WM5 Rom
Vodafone Qtek 9100 Official WM5 Rom
Orange SPV M3000 Official WM5 Rom
O2 XDA Mini S Official WM5 Rom
All these are Official stock carrier Roms of different networks,they are all good for both G3 And G4 phones.they include IPL/SPL for both the devices.when flashed, will only flash those IPL/SPL (Bootloaders) concerning the specific device.These roms can safely be flashed equally both to G3 & G4 devices.
Ok,for setting up 'VOIP/SIP' check out this link below for instructions and appropriate setting :-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299950
Cheers!

Thanks for your reply zabardast_1.
Noted and I will follow you in concentrating only G3 threads and procedures.
For now, my follow up question would be:
T-Mobile MDA Official WM5 Rom
AT&T 8125 Official WM5 Rom
Vodafone Qtek 9100 Official WM5 Rom
Orange SPV M3000 Official WM5 Rom
O2 XDA Mini S Official WM5 Rom
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- if these are the official Roms, and I am using my 8125 thru a local carrier here (which is not included in the above list, although the phone is Cingular branded but unlocked), then which one should I use? The AT&T?
and....
what are the chances that my phone will be bricked if I wont be successful on doing this myself?

Karen29 said:
Thanks for your reply zabardast_1.
Noted and I will follow you in concentrating only G3 threads and procedures.
For now, my follow up question would be:
- if these are the official Roms, and I am using my 8125 thru a local carrier here (which is not included in the above list, although the phone is Cingular branded but unlocked), then which one should I use? The AT&T?
and....
what are the chances that my phone will be bricked if I wont be successful on doing this myself?
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G3's are not that easy to get 'Bricked',its only if you flash G4 ipl/spl to a G3 phone,then there are bright chances of getting it bricked.
Secondly,all wizard phones are build by HTC with same hareware and features,regardless of vendors and cellular networks,it maybe cingular 8125,T-mobile MDA,Qtek 9100 or O2 Mini S,they all are of same build,hardware and features manufactured by HTC.You can flash any of the Roms mentioned but I wud prefer the AT&T 8125 Official WM5 Rom.The rom is the OS of the phone,it doesn't matter which local carrier you are using,its the sim of the carrier which is in use.You can easily flash a T-mobile rom on a At&TT phone or vice versa.Only the GPRS and other network settings differ from carrier to carrier.
Cheers!

I have a few more questions pls see ****
Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies (I've found this here at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies)
Intro
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Audience
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Requirements
Computer with Windows XP ***Im running in Windows Vista so I will take a look at the other post. But Iknow that basically this procedure is almost the same, right?
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Definitions
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Procedure
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However, before you start flashing, consider the following:
1. Is your device a G3 or G4 Wizard? If it's G4, Follow the G4 portion of the tutorial. If you follow the G3 tutorial you will effectively BRICK your phone. I'll tell you how to tell the difference between G3 and G4 below. ****my phone is G3 (as per your previous message)
2. Did you get your phone through a carrier (or is it carrier branded)? i.e. does your phone say T-Mobile or Cingular, or O2, or anything that identifies it as having come from a cell phone company? If yes, it's probably locked. As you now know, a SIM lock is different from a CID lock. We'll need to CID unlock your phone in order to flash WM6. ***** i bought it from ebay and right now, I am using SIM from a local network here so I guess it is SIM unlocked. So that means I only need to CID unlock?
3. Get the right IPL/SPL version. Most ROMs require BOTH IPL and SPL to be 2.xx. If you're at 1.xx, you need to take an additional step of flashing an official ROM. v(G3 Only step) ****my IPL/SPL is 2.25 and I need to use AT&T G3...zip, right?
4. Pick a ROM and flash it! **** AT&T or is this the WM6?
5. Enjoy your new functionality! **** I hope so.
6. Do additional stuff (install applications, change splash screens, and anything else you ask me to write about) *** I need the SIP/VOIP so my VOipcheap would work
1. Phone version (aka "Which guide do I follow if I don't want to have a brick?").....
If your IPL/SPL numbers are in the form X.xx (i.e 2.26, 1.08, etc.) you have a G3
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2. Unlocking (CID and SIM) G3 and G4 Tutorials.
G3 ONLY!
(Credit to Dr. Puttingham for the walkthough which I used as a basis for this portion of the tutorial.)
..... Also, make sure that your phone is nearly fully charged(at least 75%), otherwise things may go loopy.***I will.
1. Download the Button ROM to your computer **** ok
2. Attach your Wizard to your computer using the USB cable. For the love of G-d, do NOT do this over bluetooth or IR. It will most likely not work, but if it does, all hell will break loose.
3. If you have ActiveSync, (****I dont. So if I download this ActiceSync, by default, there is no parnertship, right?) make sure there are no active partnerships with your device. With your device NOT plugged in, go into ActiveSync file->delete mobile device. Once you plug the device back in, cancel synchronization. Your wizard should be showing up in ActiveSync as Guest.
4. With your device connected to your computer as Guest, run the file that your downloaded. (****The Button ROM???) It's pretty much self-explanatory. Agree to everything, and let it do it's thing. It is downgrading your IPL to 1.05. You can only unlock your phone if the IPL is 1.xx, you can't do it if your IPL is 2.xx. (<- ****what do you mean by this? coz i have 2.25) Always have lots of patience. The 10 minutes to complete statement is a guide, if your computer is running at a 90% CPU load with 99% of your RAM full (which it shouldn't), expect this to take a lot longer. If it so happens that you get an error at 99%, try The Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102.exe.
5. Once the flash is done and your Wizard is rebooted, it will display an IPL of 1.xx and an SPL of 2.xx.
6. Download Lokiwiz 0.2b.
7. Use Winzip or Winrar to extract the files to any folder on your computer(it is recommended you create a folder specifically for lokiwiz), DO NOT JUST COPY THEM! There is a directory structure inside the zip file, and this will not work if that directory structure is not maintained. This had driven me nuts the first time I did it, it was giving me all kinds of "file not found" errors. ***ok?
8. Copy enablerapi.cab from your PC to anywhere on your Wizard using ActiveSync. Remember not to create a partnership (make sure you're still connected as a Guest).
9. Go to your Wizard (***while it is connected to my computer???) and use the File Explorer to find the file you just copied. Click on it and install it to the main memory ("Device", not extended memory).
10. Back on your PC, open the folder you just created when you extracted Lokiwiz and click lokiwiz.bat. Another option if you feel comfortable is to extract lokiwiz 0.2b to your C Drive and then open up command prompt type in "cd C:" without the quotes. This should take you to your C:\ drive. Type lokiwiz.bat.
11. You will see the following:
U. Unlock
L. Lock
C. CID Unlock (SuperCID)
Q. Quit
Unlock refers to SIM Unlock and CID unlock refers to...well. If you still don't know the difference, go back and read from the beginning.
1. Press U on your computer keyboard. lokiwiz will SIM unlock your phone and REBOOT. If it doesn't reboot, you did something wrong. Try again. The procedure may take a few minutes to complete, so if your Wizard doesn't reboot right away, don't freak out. ***do i have to do this?
2. Rerun the lokiwiz.bat file, this time pressing C. Wait for the Wizard to reboot.
3. While rebooting, keep an eye on the IPL/SPL numbers. If the IPL is 1.05, good. If they are both still 2.xx, rerun the button ROM (or the other ROM that worked for you). You won't need to re-unlock the device.It is recommended that you make sure you sucessfully flashed the button rom(or whatever rom worked for you) and your IPL is 1.05 before you SIM and CID unlock your device.
4. You have 2 options now. Once you have successfully CID unlocked your phone, you can either re-flash the Button ROM or whichever ROM you used to obtain matching 1.05 IPL/SPL(NOT REQUIRED) or continue to the next step which is to continue with the upgrade and upgrade back to IPL/SPL version 2.xx (yes, you need to downgrade then upgrade back...it's just what you have to do however time-wasteful it may seem). Everyone seems to like the T-mobile Official WM5 ROM (****I need to use the AT&T Official, right?) , so what the heck, I think you'll like it too. Flash it the same way you flashed the Button ROM (double click and go through the installation). Remember to have patience! Also, You should save the T-Mobile .exe file since you will need to flash back to that first every time you want to switch ROMs (again, no matter how time wasteful it seems, trust me, do it).
5. OPTIONAL STEP:: Once you have successfully CID unlocked your G3 device and have the T-Mobile Official WM5 ROM back on your device, you now have the option to upgrade to IPL/SPL 3.08. Upgrading to IPL/SPL 3.08 is just like flashing a tiny little ROM It will not change the functionality of the device whatsoever but will speed up the boot sequence a little. Any little bit helps right? You can Find the download link for IPL/SPL 3.08 HERE Just download the .rar file EXTRACT it to its own folder. <!-- DO NOT COPY AND PASTE THESE FILES TO ANOTHER FOLDER. There is a definite file structure that will be ruined if you copy and paste and it will not work. --> Run the Rom Update Utility (****how?) and again, follow the simple self explanatory steps to complete the upgrade and then your device will reboot itself. Keep an eye on the IPL/SPL when the device is rebooting. It should now be 3.08 for both and your device should now boot more quickly.
WM6 ROMs
Pick a WM6 ROM and flash it. Now that you have a good T-Mobile WM5 ROM with IPL/SPL at 2.26 (if one of them is not at 2.26, RE-FLASH IT!) or IPL/SPL 3.08, you're ready to install a WM6 ROM. This is where I have to step back. Due to forum politics, I cannot go ahead and suggest a ROM (neither can anyone else, and if you ask this on the forums, you will get flamed and your topic will be locked). Besides, the minute I suggest a ROM on this page, a better one will come out. All I can tell you is if you're after all the nice touch stuff (of course you are!), look at the ROMs that boast TouchFlo (TNT and ?BlackDiamond are just two examples). Go to the forum, under Wizard Mobile 6 (***I have to make sure that its AT&T, right?) and take your pick. It is like being a little kid in a candy store, the variety is so immense. The only advice I could give you from personal experience, is that ROMs with newer builds(higher build numbers) tend to have more bugs than the older builds(obviously, the builds that have lower numbers) tend to be more stable with less bugs. THIS IS NOT TRUE FOR ALL ROMS!! Some ROMs with newer builds are VERY stable with only minor bugs if any but I am not going to get into that. I would also suggest reading some of the discussion regarding the author's ROM to see what bugs there are (hint: all ROMs have bugs, the question is how many and what can you live with. A relatively minor bug for me may be a show-stopper for you). You flash this ROM the exact same way you flashed the button ROM and the T-Mobile ROM. Configure it to your liking and enjoy!
**** If this is successful, then I would go on and install voip/sip, right?

HOWA !!!
Long questionair,
Anyway ! just to a cut short,
1. WinXP is highly recommended for flashing and upgrading,with winvista,there are many problems.so I advise you to consider winXP.
2. ActiveSync 4.5 will not work on winVista,it only works on winXP,for Vista you'll have to download Windows Mobile Device (WMD).
3. YES ! its a G3 device(IPL/SPL 2.25),If its SIM unlocked,it might be CID unlocked too,its not essential,but maybe,as you bought a used phone from ebay.To verify if its CID unlocked,download the WST tool and run the "CID Action' button,it'll verify the CID locked/unlocked status of the phone.
4.If its CID unlocked,there's no need to downgrade by flashing 'Button's Rom 1.05 to 1.xx to unlock with lokiwiz02b,but if isn't cid unlocked,you'll have to downgrade it to ipl/spl 1.xx.
5. YES ! if its cid unlocked,you need ipl/spl 2.xx to upgrade to any wm6 rom,yes,you can use the official stock rom of at&tt,but T-mobile 2.26 has proved to be the most stable 2.xx rom and is highly recommended to upgrade to 2.xx for upgrade to wm6 as a good base.
6. NO ! there's no wm6 upgrade available for official stock AT&TT,you'll have to depend on latest custom build wm6 roms,which are avaiable in this forum.
Well,if you have to downgrade and CID unlock through lokiwiz02b,read and follow the guide by Dr.Putts.
Cheers!

follow-up questions ****
1. i will look for winxp
2. if i didnt find winxp pc here, i would have to do it thru vista
3. WST Tool? download it to my PC (with winxp) and connect my wizard?
4. ok. then i will follow the steps.
5. YES ! if its cid unlocked,you need ipl/spl 2.xx to upgrade to any wm6 rom,yes,you can use the official stock rom of at&tt,but T-mobile 2.26 has proved to be the most stable 2.xx rom and is highly recommended to upgrade to 2.xx for upgrade to wm6 as a good base.
(****so i dont need to upgrade coz i have 2.25??? or i still need a new official ROM like T-mobilie 2.26 so I can upgrade to wm6???)
6. NO ! there's no wm6 upgrade available for official stock AT&TT,you'll have to depend on latest custom build wm6 roms,which are avaiable in this forum.
***any wm6 will do, right?
thanks so much.

Hi there!
Im lost! I cant find a PC with WinXP that I can use
I think I will have to do it with Vista. And of course, I need to start all over again from the start on reading and learning.
Is this the right post for me? including the links to the stuffs I need to download? (coz I notice there's not much to download and not much stuffs like the button rom and the At&T rom and others).
I mean, considering that I have a G4 with IPL/SPL 2.25.
Please help.

Karen29 said:
Hi there!
Im lost! I cant find a PC with WinXP that I can use
I think I will have to do it with Vista. And of course, I need to start all over again from the start on reading and learning.
Is this the right post for me? including the links to the stuffs I need to download? (coz I notice there's not much to download and not much stuffs like the button rom and the At&T rom and others).
I mean, considering that I have a G4 with IPL/SPL 2.25.
Please help.
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YUP ! follow the above thread and download the drivers for winvista or you can check out this below link also :-
http://www.anichillus.net/index.php?topic=21.0
well,as you say it has 2.25 then its a G3,but if its got ipl/spl 2.25.0001 thenits a G4,why don't you download and WST tool and get the device info,it'll certify which is your phone a G3 or G4,ok
Cheers!

After I go through the ROM update
The ROM update seems to work fine installs 100% the 8125 then reboots the Splash screen comes up with the beer bottle, but it HANGS on this Screen and Does not do anything should i leave it longer.
ive been working with other ROMS and now this one for the last week, and It seems like its just hanging at this Screen.
also my active sync isnt really regonizing the 8125, under explorer it shows mobile device, and the computer beeps when i plug it in but sync doesnt seem to regonize it...
it has in the past but not while loading this button rom coul that have somethign to do with it?

natdizzle said:
The ROM update seems to work fine installs 100% the 8125 then reboots the Splash screen comes up with the beer bottle, but it HANGS on this Screen and Does not do anything should i leave it longer.
ive been working with other ROMS and now this one for the last week, and It seems like its just hanging at this Screen.
also my active sync isnt really regonizing the 8125, under explorer it shows mobile device, and the computer beeps when i plug it in but sync doesnt seem to regonize it...
it has in the past but not while loading this button rom coul that have somethign to do with it?
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Do a Soft Reset or Hard reset,it'll load up fine,if not,then reflash the button's Rom again.
Cheers!

OKay
Soft you mean the litte reset button hard you mean battery ive tried all of that...
I guess ill keep trying to reload thebutton rom you seem confident itll be lright
I HOPE I MISS MY PHONE!!

zabardast_1 said:
YUP ! follow the above thread and download the drivers for winvista or you can check out this below link also :-
http://www.anichillus.net/index.php?topic=21.0
well,as you say it has 2.25 then its a G3,but if its got ipl/spl 2.25.0001 thenits a G4,why don't you download and WST tool and get the device info,it'll certify which is your phone a G3 or G4,ok
Cheers!
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hi there! I am trying to follow the steps (vista) but cant get to bootloader mode.
which is the side ok button? and which hole should i put my stylus (coz the holes at the bottom are only the earphone, usb and the one that you can put dangle or something)?
also, what does it really look like when its in the bootloader mode?
thanks.
pls note that there is a hole on the right side that when i press it with stylus...the device will reset.

Hi there!
Got the bootloader! I pressed the hole on the right side with the stylus and when the screen is blank, I pressed and hold camera button and there you go....the bootloader with that colorful screen.
I followed the steps and now the WMDC can see my phone.
Now what?
- need to upgrade to wm6, right? (although, i thought that the steps i followed would make my phone wm6 already)
- then, need to get the voip/sip
Now i need to know how. LOL!
Pls tell me something more about this....thanks

it works YUPEEEEEEEEE
u are not going to belive but my phone is working now........... i fix the from cingular to tmobile in the minute............ IT WORKSSSSSSSSSSSS i started with the beer bottle. then i press soft reset button on the boot screen i press camera button and then i got three color screen .after that i plug my USB cord and computer did a beep so my usb was conected..
i went and download the tmobile flash and then unziped on my desktop in the new folder.
did restart on my computer and then run the lockwiz ....... i did update my sistem.. when is booting it say cingular but im using my tmobile sim card..........
HTC 8125
OMAP850
195 mhz
ram sz 64 mb
flash size 128
flashchip m-SYSTEMS
i got version
2.25.11.1wwe
rom date 5/11/06/

something must me wrong with mine..im doing everything have the beer loading screen IPL 1.05 SPL 2.25 Nothing...freezes on splash....
trying the unlocking tools, but i cant get past splash, or RGB screen soo i dont know if it will work from there...

natdizzle said:
something must me wrong with mine..im doing everything have the beer loading screen IPL 1.05 SPL 2.25 Nothing...freezes on splash....
trying the unlocking tools, but i cant get past splash, or RGB screen soo i dont know if it will work from there...
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Relax,try a Soft Reset or Hard reset,if it works,fine,if not get into bootloaders and flash the Button's Rom again.
Cheers!

me, i dont really know what to do next.
Zabardast, pls guide me. After wat i did above, what will i do now?
Thanks.

zabardast_1 said:
YUP ! follow the above thread and download the drivers for winvista or you can check out this below link also :-
http://www.anichillus.net/index.php?topic=21.0
well,as you say it has 2.25 then its a G3,but if its got ipl/spl 2.25.0001 thenits a G4,why don't you download and WST tool and get the device info,it'll certify which is your phone a G3 or G4,ok
Cheers!
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I followed that but I get lost. I thought everythng would be ok. but my phone is still wm5.
pls help. thanks.
by the way, what is that latest RUU.zip?

I just want to make it ENGLISH!!!!

hi guys...
im going crazy!!! i've been surfing the net for last 9 hours looking for some solution for my f__ed up phone....its cingular 8125....but loaded with dopod system. works well bu tthe only thing thats driving me crazy is...there's no english support in it....how can i make it english??? do i have to flash it?? i tried to flash it couple of times....i'm using vista so it took me a long time to understand what was wrong....now im doing everything right but still cant flash it. i installed that RUU driver and tried in bootloader mode....the applicaiton crashes in vista and i got a msg from windows that....this program stopped responding....why??? im a computer programmer also but with pocket pc....this is my first time ever....i cant sleep until i finish this.....can anyone give me a nice and easy solution so i can go to sleep....! i would really really really appreciate it guys

Firstly find out if you have a g3 or a g4 device by entering bootloader mode
press the top two buttons at the side and at the same time reset with the stylus you will get a tri-coloured screen at the bottom will be ipl and spl if its a g3 they will say eg. IPL 2.xx or 1.xx spl 2.xx or 1.xx if its a g4 it will say IPL 2.xx.xxxx SPL 2.x.xxxx. Once you have decided what it is a g3 or g4 then you need to CID unlock it
First download this file
http://rapidshare.com/files/53377946/Wizard__CID___Sim_Unlocker.rar
password for rar file is scousemartin. That file contains the button rom for unlocking and lokiwiz and the o2 official uk rom
if its a g4 you need to download this as well
http://rapidshare.com/files/94972635/ROM_FLashing_For_G4_Wizards_SoftSPL-V0.1.rar
Install the button rom if it is a G£ device run lokiwiz and go through the motions, once it says its CID unlocked you can flash any rom you want. If its a G4 device flash the softSPL then choose what rom you want to flash DONT flash the O2 rom if it is a G4
JUST MAKE SURE YOU KNOW IF IT IS A G3 OR G4 OR YOU WILL BRICK YOUR PHONE