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"W" letter

hey ive been having this problem for the past couple days and was wondering if anyone has experianced the same thing or could shed abit of light on it.
basically whenever writing a text, or word document or typing a web address, etc and i click on the letter "w" nothing comes up and the phone crashes, doesnt let me type anything, goes super super slow and doesnt really respond to nething so i have to reset it. this happens when using the "w" on the on screen keyboard and on the pull out keyboard.
i havnt dropped it recently and its in perfect condition, also havnt installed anything recently that may hav caused it. it just seemed to randomly start happening. will have to try a hard reset if theres no other solution, but any ideas would be greatly appreciated?

I would suggest a hard reset. If it is a software error that should do the trick.
But i guess this has something to do with hardware. I had that problem with my wizard. The commanager button caused the device to crash. Once I opened it I found about 1 kg of dust sitting behind the button. Once that was out of the way the device was normal again.
edit: Just try opening the device as a last resort.
here you can find the service manual. Link removed - no longer valid

thanks mate, may try a hard reset then. but i'll leave it till weekend after exams have finished as its quite time consuming installing everything again, etc.
i perhaps should have mentioned that it only crashes if "w" is the first letter i use. if i type something else an then use it, it seems to work. (altho i havnt tested this properly, i'll assume this is usually the case). just seems like a very strange problem to get
anywayz, thank you for ur advice

nice screen name Is this a stock ROM or a cooked one? maybe the keyboard fix would correct it?

fade2black said:
nice screen name Is this a stock ROM or a cooked one? maybe the keyboard fix would correct it?
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haha thank you.. umm.. its the default one that came with the t-mobile mda vario III. was working fine up until the other day.. whats this keyboard fix u speak of tho?

I have almost the same problem with my "w" key also. I have to press it longer than i do other keys to get it to type a "w" and when i do it causes a slow down on my phone.

sounds like its time for a song..
http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1022602
lol.. u can spell out the name of the band without the letter W.. so its good.
flobots - No "W"
anyway.. on topic.. wat rom is A7LAS using?

Unresponsive/heavy QWERTY keys

Hello fellow Kaiser users,
I don't know if this happened only with me or others have experienced the same.
TyTN II keys on the QWERTY after a year of use has some keys responding after the 2nd or 3rd stroke of the key.
Did anyone else experience this?
Is there a solution?
It is really bugging me when I'm typing an SMS or typing something down.
Any suggestions are appreciated.
Hardware suggestions also I will try on my own risk.

fireblade63 said:
TyTN II keys on the QWERTY after a year of use has some keys responding after the 2nd or 3rd stroke of the key.
Did anyone else experience this?
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Same problem here, but I started noticing it after 4/5 months of use. Would like to know about a solution also.

I feel your pain, this is what is really killing me because the keyboard is a very big part of the phone, and I've only been using it for 7 months. If i knew it would become this unresponsive i would of got an i phone because this phones on screen keyboard and transcriber is useless.

It happened to me after 7 months. The "c" key on my tilt started to become unresponsive so I called up at&t and had it warranty exchanged for a refurb. This second one was already even worse than the one I'd just sent back, so I had them send out another one. This third one is fine, although the "c" key (again, oddly enough) doesn't click like the others. It's responsive, but feels a little different. I didn't feel like going through the exchange process again, so for now I'm living with it.

My 1 month old refurb tilt doesn't type the keys when I press them sometimes. I should have that fixed. I thought it was a software problem...
My brand new XPS M1530 does the same thing sometimes. I guess I reckoned it was just me not pressing on the keys hard enough or something like that...

So I'm not the only one with the problem...
But no solution?!
Even a hint of what might be causing this would help..

have you guys tried using the disable XT9 cab ?

yes
I think it is H/W cleaning related
How to clean is the deal...

you can find disassembling guides on mikechannon's web. just follow the disassembling instructions and after you remove keyboard, try cleaning it.

Same problem for me.
I'm always very carefull with my device, and don't use the hardware keyboard very often.
Now for some letters I really have to press harder to make them work.
I have my device for only 6 or 7 months.

Have had my Kaiser for 6 months now and the Y and B keys are starting to go out. For the past couple weeks I have been considering sending it in for warranty exchange but I have taken very good care of my Kaiser and worry about what I would get back...

Anyone eager enough tried disasembling and cleaning?
Moreover, did it work?
funny thing here is that I get more unresponsiveness in the right side of the keyboard (enter; L; P; direction keys).
It is a real pain...

Most prolly will do it soon
Will let you all know of the outcome

Same here.
Had mine 8 months, the W key is worst, takes a really heavy press to get it to work, has been like that for about 5 months.
Now the B is also getting bad, so is the S.
If i'm likely to get a refurb back i guess i'll just put up with it until my contract is up.

I'm facing the same problem on my HTC herald. HTC keyboard quality has gone way down. I never faced such problem when I had htc universal.

Hey man,
since you had quite some ppls share of PPCs;
did you disassemble any of them before?
Do you think it's a good idea to do it myself?
I'm extra careful normally but I'm having doubts
kdskamal said:
I'm facing the same problem on my HTC herald. HTC keyboard quality has gone way down. I never faced such problem when I had htc universal.
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Similar problems here with my Tilt. FN, CAP/SHIFT, N are all problematic for me.
Has anyone tried a spray liquid electronic "contact cleaner" on a device like this before?

Weird
Oddly enough, I have had this problem a little bit with mine as well. However mine is the space bar. I, like many others I am sure, have hopped from ROM to ROM. When I changed ROMs the last time, it seemed to fix the issue. It was really weird because a lot of the times I would type something, and the letters would turn out something like this:
Iw antt oe at atj oes.
Like I said, I just swapped ROMs and it seemed to fix it. maybe the t9?

killerbeans said:
Oddly enough, I have had this problem a little bit with mine as well. However mine is the space bar. I, like many others I am sure, have hopped from ROM to ROM. When I changed ROMs the last time, it seemed to fix the issue. It was really weird because a lot of the times I would type something, and the letters would turn out something like this:
Iw antt oe at atj oes.
Like I said, I just swapped ROMs and it seemed to fix it. maybe the t9?
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You are correct sir! Just run "disable xt9" (found plenty of places on the kaiser forum) and your problem should be fixed.

I too have had this problem. I noticed it with the d, r, and space bar keys. Interestingly enough the keys that i press often (Take A for example [I have it mapped to the A button in PocketNesterPlus]) aren't hard to press at all. What I'm trying right now is pressing the problem keys over and over again to see if they "loosen up". Best Case Scenario: It works. Worst Case Scenario: I ruin an expensive piece of equipment.
Update: This might be working. To test which keys were unresponsive i typed abcdefghijklmnop.... without exerting any extra effort. The keys w and r didn't show up so i kept working them. I repeated the test and I got r to work. perhaps i am unknowingly pressing r harder, or perhaps not.

slow keyboard

I have been running a older version of Dutty's Kaiser ROM for some time with great results, however, I have noticed that my hardware keyboard is slower than it should be. I can press a button and either get no response or two characters typed. Anyone else experience this and know what causes it?
thanks ahead of time,
Levi

Use Disable T9 cab
I also had more performance with different radios and spls
There is a recen thread on this

do you know where the recent thread is? or where the disable T9 cab is located? i did a forum search but turned up too many hits and after reading the first page of hits i gave up.

The problem has escalated!
you know I tried that disable T9/XT9 cabs and tricks, but they didn't help. I investigated further as to why my hardware keyboard doesn't respond correctly. I think that I have found that is is strictly a hardware related issue. Only a few of the buttons on my device have this problem, and their not really slow, they just don't type each every time I press them. I also found that the harder I pressed those problem buttons, the more likely it was to actually type them. I might end up trying another ROM and hard resetting the device but if not, I may try taking the device apart and cleaning the keyboard, I suppose I have just typed it to death! If all else fails unless anyone else has suggestions, time for a new phone. Anyone else have this problem with the Kaiser, and another thing. Have a kaiser?, look at the front of it and inspect the shiny button cluster. Does your button cluster move about the opening sort of loosely jiggling around? hmmm........ mine does!
Levi

this is a known issue with alot of ROMs that are made from the AT&T OEM rom.

blacksage said:
you know I tried that disable T9/XT9 cabs and tricks, but they didn't help. I investigated further as to why my hardware keyboard doesn't respond correctly. I think that I have found that is is strictly a hardware related issue. Only a few of the buttons on my device have this problem, and their not really slow, they just don't type each every time I press them. I also found that the harder I pressed those problem buttons, the more likely it was to actually type them. I might end up trying another ROM and hard resetting the device but if not, I may try taking the device apart and cleaning the keyboard, I suppose I have just typed it to death! If all else fails unless anyone else has suggestions, time for a new phone. Anyone else have this problem with the Kaiser, and another thing. Have a kaiser?, look at the front of it and inspect the shiny button cluster. Does your button cluster move about the opening sort of loosely jiggling around? hmmm........ mine does!
Levi
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I second both observations.
On my keyboard, it's the R and H buttons that are unresponsive. As to the shiny button cluster, mine moves too. But not as much as my friend's TYTN II does.

spip72 said:
I second both observations.
On my keyboard, it's the R and H buttons that are unresponsive. As to the shiny button cluster, mine moves too. But not as much as my friend's TYTN II does.
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You may want to check your key repeat speed and delays in settings->buttons. I had mine set to lowest delay and highest speed. I tried to double the delay, and reduce the speed to less than half. My keys seems to work a little better now (but i've just been testing for a few minutes).

jiggly buttons
my hardware buttons jiggle around a lot. they still work fine, but yes I believe they are just jiggly by poor deisgn.

Capacitive pad end key problem

Ive noticed that when ever I press the end button, it presses right instead sometimes. this doesnt seem to happen to any of the other buttons.
This also happens when it is either really cold or hot (due to using it with the charger and wifi running with performance set to high) but only with the end key.
I dont remember it being like this and I've had it for a couple of months now although I could be wrong since I hardly use the end key. Does anyone know if this is common or what could be wrong?
Im on orange in the UK and have the original updated 1.93.405.1 Rom.
On a side note (instead of opening another thread):
I used AdvanceConfig to change the startup animation but it doesnt work properly and comes up as a white screen. If I go to 'HKLM\Software|HTC|StartupAnimation' it is blank inside with no values. I know it wasnt like this before because I previously disabled the startup sound by changing a key that was present in this directory.
Could someone post the values which are inside 'HKLM\Software|HTC|StartupAnimation' please?

I also have this problem. Every now and again the end key acts as the right key. Very frustrating when trying to end a call.
Thing is it only happens every once in a while and ( as far as i can tell at random ) so i'm questioning the software rather than the hardware.
I'm seriously considering sending the phone back cause this is one of the key functions of a phone surely lol.... I'm also on Orange with the latest official rom, i'm considering flashing a custom rom to see if it makes any difference.

Solution here: Edit, wrong url...

Same problem here, but happens when I do a long press on the end key. It's intermittent though.

espenjoh said:
Solution here: Edit, wrong url...
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DO you have the correct URL then
This is really bugging me, does this effect anyone else?

Yeah, using the end key to lock is when I notice it the most and when it gets most annoying. It is weird that it only happens with the end key and not the other 3.
Also, Ive got a protective film over the whole of the diamond so Im thinking maybe this reduces the sensitivity? What about the rest of you? Do you use a protective film on the capacitive part too? BTW, Im using a Martin field screen protector.

im having this problem with every rom i flash..so its not rom problem..it is in the device itself

I've only got a protective cover on the touch screen not the keys so thats not an issue.
There must be something we all have in common as it would be more widely reported.. happens for me quite frequently when trying to lock the device and it returns to normal if i just leave it for a while... very strange.
Official Rom HTC and am on Orange UK handset?
What are other people on?

When I get a phonecall the buttons flash as usual, but the end key button does not flash. It´s ligts up and does not flash.
Changed rom but the same. I think it is a hardware problem, What do you think?
Thanks for responding

Omission said:
Official Rom HTC and am on Orange UK handset?
What are other people on?
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Yeah, can people tell us which network their on if your having trouble with the end key and which country? could it be problems with early batches?

Keyboard trouble: missed spacebar keypresses and/or sticking keys?

Hi all,
I was just curious if anyone else is seeing some physical keyboard keypress/release detection issues on their Droid3s? The most common problem I'm seeing is a lack of detection of spacebar keypresses (i.e., I'll find words joined together). Sometimes it also fails to detect the release of the spacebar (or other keys), thus repeating a row of letters.
The keyboard is physically clean. This is however a "day one" phone and I've used it/the keyboard fairly extensively for the nearly two months I've owned it.
The problem seems most likely to occur when typing quickly. I'm certain I am pressing the spacebar though.
Have not modified the stock software.
Thanks
--Tod

Been having the sticking issue with my Droid3 as well. Haven't notice it skipping any keys, though. My spacebar, period, and backspace keys all like to stick every so often. Which can be rather infuriating when you've just typed a lengthy message, only to make a single typo, and have the backspace key wipe out everything you just wrote.
I've been thinking about getting a replacement, but I think I'd rather deal with a minor annoyance than get a refurbished phone.

Same thing.

https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/55080?tstart=30

tliebeck said:
Hi all,
I was just curious if anyone else is seeing some physical keyboard keypress/release detection issues on their Droid3s? The most common problem I'm seeing is a lack of detection of spacebar keypresses (i.e., I'll find words joined together). Sometimes it also fails to detect the release of the spacebar (or other keys), thus repeating a row of letters.
The keyboard is physically clean. This is however a "day one" phone and I've used it/the keyboard fairly extensively for the nearly two months I've owned it.
The problem seems most likely to occur when typing quickly. I'm certain I am pressing the spacebar though.
Have not modified the stock software.
Thanks
--Tod
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I just got a replacement today. My first d3, the middle of the spacebar wouldn't press in. It would usually register a keypress, but sometimes it wouldn't . It got really annoying because I always pressed in the middle. And it would seem to randomly add many spaces untill I pressed another button or not space at all.
Sent from my DROID3 using XDA App

Thanks all, just called 611 and ordered a warranty replacement. Very much hoping it's a new device rather than a refurb.
My current one has also has been experiencing the reboot issue with greater frequency lately.

I'm having the same issues but it's happening to the spacebar AND the backspace. I'll delete a mistake I made than all of a sudden the phone will delete everything like I was holding it.
what do you guys think? if it's software I'll wait for a patch. If it's hardware then I may need a new phone. but I agree with RandomEncounter, I'd rather deal with than get a referb.
Husky

Never had this issue on either one of my Droid 3's. I'm on .890, might make a difference.