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So we finally have 3G in Minneapolis. But i am disappointed about the actual 3G speed. I have HSPA enabled and only get speeds between 350 and 600 kbits/sec. I was in Germany 2 weeks ago and with a Vodafone pre-paid SIM Card i was routinely getting speeds between 800 kbits/sec to 1.2 mb/sec.
Is ATT 3G in the USA inferior to 3G in Germany?
As i am trying to figure this out, i do notice that i only connect to the internet using Medianet. I do not have an isp through ATT. Does an ISP connection make a significant difference as far as 3G speed is concerned?
What speeds are you guys getting her in Minneapolis?
Those sound like pretty standard 3G speeds for the region. I am getting the same speeds in Milwaukee which isn't that far away from you.
I get 750 in detroit
3G Speed in Minneapolis
I use isp.cingular for 3G and see speeds between 567 and 997 mb/s. I'm very pleased with the increase.
What are you using to test the speed with? Let me know and I'll test it. I'm in Roseville right now...I live in Mpls so I can test that later tonight.
.:Christian:.
i use this one
http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1
with the 1mb file which you get after the other files are too small
which takes you to
http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1&more=1
#1 375 kbit/sec on a 1MB file.
#2 513 kbit/sec on a 1MB file.
#3 321 kbit/sec on a 1MB file.
.:Christian:.
Question: isp.cingular did you call cingular to request your account to be setup for it? I had it working before but now I get an error saying the modem is not responding.
As for speeds with 3g the fastest I ever reached was 1046 kbit/s now I get 774 kbit/s roughly.
WOW!! That is damn fast
kb/s I think...
ronleut said:
I use isp.cingular for 3G and see speeds between 567 and 997 mb/s. I'm very pleased with the increase.
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Keep in mind that whenever I've run a speed test with PIE, it's always reported a far slower speed than other browsers...
GermanGuy said:
So we finally have 3G in Minneapolis. But i am disappointed about the actual 3G speed. I have HSPA enabled and only get speeds between 350 and 600 kbits/sec. I was in Germany 2 weeks ago and with a Vodafone pre-paid SIM Card i was routinely getting speeds between 800 kbits/sec to 1.2 mb/sec.
Is ATT 3G in the USA inferior to 3G in Germany?
As i am trying to figure this out, i do notice that i only connect to the internet using Medianet. I do not have an isp through ATT. Does an ISP connection make a significant difference as far as 3G speed is concerned?
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3G and HSDPA are two different thing, HSDPA is also known as 3.5G, the results you get is about right.
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Does the ATT version of the Kaiser not have 3.5G? Or am I just not in the correct areas for such coverage?
My downloads on my 8525 were 700kbits/sec, and the 8925 is 1000kbits/sec. I'm happy, but not 3.6mpbs happy.
it's area specific. I have 3.5g in my area but it's still hit and miss. And you will never see 3.6mbps actual speed, 1mbps or 1.5 is pretty damn good for a mobile phone
smittyofdhs said:
it's area specific. I have 3.5g in my area but it's still hit and miss. And you will never see 3.6mbps actual speed, 1mbps or 1.5 is pretty damn good for a mobile phone
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Yeah i know it wouldnt peak 3.6, but it would be nice to see it get close I use my phone as my permanent internet source... every bit satisfies.
Bah... that wait for new technology coverage continues.
Thanks!
I beleive I've recently started seeing 3.5G in our area. I think it's the 'H' connection, a.k.a. HSDPA which includes rates between 383Kbps and 14.4Mbps.
Metro Philadelphia
I live in the metro Philadelphia PA area, and my phone will reach download speeds of 250-300kb/sec on a regular basis, when downloading large files.
The tilt does supprt HSDPA where available, although I believe this is still usually referred to as 3G, rther than 3.5. 1000Kb/s is about avg for it. I have hit 1.4 Mb/s in my area, I don't expect much higher than that. I am not sure about HSUPA (upload). I know they are rolling it out in some areas but I do not know if it is enabeled on the tilt.
Braymond141 said:
Does the ATT version of the Kaiser not have 3.5G? Or am I just not in the correct areas for such coverage?
My downloads on my 8525 were 700kbits/sec, and the 8925 is 1000kbits/sec. I'm happy, but not 3.6mpbs happy.
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You might want to install KaiserTweak and see if HSDPA is enabled on your phone. It wasn't on mine and I notice a big difference when that H comes on.
KaiserTweaks... Now that I think about it that's why my phone is showing the 'H.'
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The tilt does supprt HSDPA where available, although I believe this is still usually referred to as 3G, rther than 3.5.
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No, HSDPA IS 3.5G. UMTS is 3G.
OK, I must be dreaming! I looked at my x1i today, and I'm suddenly getting 3G/H. Until today, I've always only had Edge.
fieldtest.exe band shows 255:unknown
Ran speed test from dslreports.com using Opera; showing 1124 kbit/sec for a 1MB file test. Ran again with IE and got 1190 kbit/sec
I know the hardware specs on the x1i don't match up with Rogers 3g network, so did Rogers change their network recently?
This is an unlocked x1i with Generic UK ROM 1.05.931.10 R3AA010
I'm in Aurora, Ontario (north of Toronto).
Anyone else seeing this?
Rogers rolling out 3G on the 1900MHz band or you have an X1a.
I've had this x1i since December. So does anyone know if Rogers is changing, and has anyone else suddenly seen 3g?
I started noticing the 3G symbol about 2 days ago myself here in Toronto, before that it was 95% of the time E and sometimes just G. Now its 95% 3G and its unusual for it to go to E anymore. No idea though on benchmarks since I don't have a Data plan at the moment and so I only use it when I really need to. Will see if any friends have a data plan though and don't mind me borrowing my SIM for a few minutes and giving it a try, because I'm curious now. Getting the 30 fps VGA recording and 3G locally - that'd be awesome .
Peter
Thanks, pdamouse. This gives me hope that Rogers has changed their 3g network, and that I'll now finally have a really cool phone.
Anyone else seeing the same thing?
Anyone have a tech contact at Rogers that might be able to confirm?
maybe you just passed by one of the very few 1900mhz towers
Called Rogers tech support earlier; the rep I spoke with had no idea, so he asked a colleague. The colleague apparently said they now support all 4 frequencies.
The colleague was on a call, so I couldn't get any further info.
So theoretically, I was told that Rogers is now running 3g on 850, 900, 1900, 2100 mhz.
I have not been able to find anything on Rogers' site to confirm in writing.
Anyone else able to confirm?
Aha! Think it may be related to Rogers introduction of the HSPA+ ROCKET™ MOBILE INTERNET STICK
See: http://your.rogers.com/Store/Wireless/products/rstick_info.asp
Specs there indicate:
Technology: HSPA+/EDGE/GSM
Frequency:
HSPA+/UMTS 850/1900/2100Mhz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900Mhz
Data Transmission:
HSDPA – Up to 21Mbps downlink
HSUPA – Up to 5.76Mbps uplink
Great I am not the only one that noticed this. Last week I was walking to the subway and noticed 3G and H on my phone. I was blown away! I spent the weekend downtown and had 3G/HSPA everywhere. Couldn't do a speedtest but it was definately faster than EDGE.
From what I noticed, downtown Toronto now has 1900 3G but as you leave the city towards Mississauga you go back to EDGE.
gogadget said:
OK, I must be dreaming! I looked at my x1i today, and I'm suddenly getting 3G/H. Until today, I've always only had Edge.
Anyone else seeing this?
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Got the same situation on last Friday when driving at 401 and 404. But didn't get a chance to test the speed before it jumped back to EDGE.
I'm getting 3g consistently in Aurora and Newmarket. Better in some areas than others.
Also noticed 3g as I was coming down the 404.
Now in Pickering, and it's completely back to edge.
ok wtf, i bought my phone from rogers, and i've been getting 3G and H for a month now, but i just checked settings->device information->identity and under model it says x1i not x1a. anyone else noticing this? maybe because of custom rom?
from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4579528
go into Settings, System, Device Information. Select the Hardware tab. Beside the first entry, CPU, you'll see one of two things:
"QUALCOMM(R) 7200A" means you've got X1i
"QUALCOMM(R) 7201A" means you've got X1a
jimwang76 said:
Got the same situation on last Friday when driving at 401 and 404. But didn't get a chance to test the speed before it jumped back to EDGE.
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lol I live within 200 meters of where those highways meet (404/DVP and 401) - that might be why I've been seeing 3G on my phone 100% of the time I'm at home. I never thought being this close to the busiest highway intersection in Canada would help me get better cell reception - but apparently it does .
gogadget said:
Aha! Think it may be related to Rogers introduction of the HSPA+ ROCKET™ MOBILE INTERNET STICK
See: http://your.rogers.com/Store/Wireless/products/rstick_info.asp
Specs there indicate:
Technology: HSPA+/EDGE/GSM
Frequency:
HSPA+/UMTS 850/1900/2100Mhz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900Mhz
Data Transmission:
HSDPA – Up to 21Mbps downlink
HSUPA – Up to 5.76Mbps uplink
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this was indeed due to the HSPA+ roll out rogers recently did. i can confirm this is the same situation on the west coast in Vancouver...thank you Rogers, now bell and telus the balls in your court.... pick it up!!
pdamouse said:
lol I live within 200 meters of where those highways meet (404/DVP and 401) - that might be why I've been seeing 3G on my phone 100% of the time I'm at home. I never thought being this close to the busiest highway intersection in Canada would help me get better cell reception - but apparently it does .
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Lucky you. The 3G signal disapears at Finch, so I still can only get EDGE at home. Hopefully more towers will be upgraded soon.
Today I managed to stay in place long enough to do a speed test.
I got 2.2mbs down and 0.65 up. Not really mind blowing but I was in a building and wasnt getting full signal. Also, there is 3G in north Mississauga, it's weird.
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Lucky you. The 3G signal disapears at Finch, so I still can only get EDGE at home. Hopefully more towers will be upgraded soon.
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Sorry man, I'm sure they will be adding more towers - the area is expanding quite quickly. I was suprised at getting the signal more than anything, and someone mentioning right where I live as the place they see it - I way way over use the : P smiley...
wait a second here
This thread doesn't make sense - I have read elsewhere that the X1a and the X1i have identical cell frequencies.
To confirm, can someone with an X1i do the following:
Go Start > Settings > Personal > Phone.
Select the Band tab.
The second drop-down box entitled "Select your GSM/UMTS band" should give the following options:
Auto
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100+900)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100)
Those are the options I get on my X1a, purchased directly from Rogers. Aren't those the options on your X1i as well?
benjaminries said:
The second drop-down box entitled "Select your GSM/UMTS band" should give the following options:
Auto
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100+900)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100)
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I actually get this on my X1i:
Auto
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(900+2100)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
But we are discussing 3G support and HSDPA - they use different frequencies for that here as opposed to Europe, and the X1i uses those European Frequencies, while the X1a is specialized for North America. The GSM Quadband is a given that it will work everwhere there is GSM - but the 3G bands are not universal.
Peter
I got a nexus one with at&t in NYC. I was usually getting around 1.2 mbps down with peaks of 2.7 mbps in Brooklyn. In Manhattan, I was on average 2.2 mbps down and peaks of 2.9 mbps. Today all of a sudden I get 3.5 mbps average with peake of 3.8mbps with 1.4 mbps upload. Did at&t upgrade to hspa+?
I just tested again a couple of times throughout the hour and avg now is about 2.7, And i had a peak of 3.6
Technically the Nexus one cannot get full hspa+ speeds. It will see a bump, but will never go over 7.2 or really even come close to it. The limit is 7.2mbps downlink. Yes, you will see the improvements you have though, congrats. I'm in Chicago where Tmobile has not yet covered the whole city in hspa+ or even started for that matter to my knowledge. Hopefully soon though so I can get the speeds your getting.
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Technically the Nexus one cannot get full hspa+ speeds. It will see a bump, but will never go over 7.2 or really even come close to it. The limit is 7.2mbps downlink. Yes, you will see the improvements you have though, congrats. I'm in Chicago where Tmobile has not yet covered the whole city in hspa+ or even started for that matter to my knowledge. Hopefully soon though so I can get the speeds your getting.
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The Nexus One I am assuming does not have the hardware for HSPA+ or is there another limiting factor?
It is hardware limited. But for both At&t and Tmobile there will be speed increases from their upgraded networks. Just not full hspa+
This guy is spamming the forums. He has started 4 threads today all on almost the same thing. This thread is even the same word for word, just with different numbers. What is with these people?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696552
I was looking at the 18MBPS LTE speeds in canada and was confused. I'm getting a consistant 14-17 MBPS on HSPA+. What's with the rush for LTE?
I got 17.56Mbps. However, according to the LTE thread, some people in Canada can get up to ~40-50 Mbps...
Did a speed test the other day on T-Mobile HSPA+ and I got over 20. Not bad considering my home internet connection is 25. My Nexus 4 is lightning fast on HSPA+, I'm not seeing the need to switch to LTE either for at least a couple more years.
I have reached 21 Mbps download and 3 Mbps upload. LTE is average 30+ download and upload.
HSPA+ saves battery and LTE kills it.
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The reason LTE is better is that is generally has lower latency speeds and absolutely has faster upload speeds.
In the US, AT&T has terrible 3G speeds. But T-mobile's HSPA network is generally really fast. So it really depends on your provider. And yes, LTE has very little latency. But if you are on T-mobile and have great coverage, I don't think LTE would be a big change. Unless you are tethering, LTE vs HSPA+ is not a huge difference.
People need to learn the difference of MB and Mb
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People need to learn the difference of MB and Mb
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The shift key?
I haven't had super stellar HSPA+ speeds around town (Portland, OR, on T-Mobile) but just now I did one and got 24.2Mbps down, 5Mbps up. :good: Good enough for me by far. That's faster than my home internet.
Edit: Wait, that was my home internet. Up too late last night... 13Mbps down, 1.5Mbps up. That's still not bad.
If we do enable the LTE part of the phone, does that mean our battery life would be depleting faster?
yahoowizard said:
If we do enable the LTE part of the phone, does that mean our battery life would be depleting faster?
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Yes
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The other day I got 63mbps on my Nexus 4, take that T Mobile
Matt1408 said:
The other day I got 63mbps on my Nexus 4, take that T Mobile
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But T-Mobile is going to construct an AWS LTE network in the US, and it will be newer than the LTE on other carriers.
People also forget.
What is the use of 50 Mbps download if the website you are looking at only displays at 10 Mbps up?
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I guess a lot of people hoping for LTE are on AT&T. I get a bit 2-3 Mbps down, 1-1.5 Mbps up (250-375 KB/s and 125-188 KB/s, I don't get why people use bits for bandwidth when everyone is clearly more familiar with bytes...).
I wonder if you need a smartphone plan on AT&T to get LTE on an off-network-branded device. I'm using MediaNET and I'd rather pay $10 for unlimited 3G than $25 for 2GB of 4G. If we can eventually use LTE incognito on AT&T and keep our MediaNET plans, I'll be happy. Doesn't really make a difference to me either way. 3G speeds are more than good enough for browsing. I don't mind a little buffering if I'm streaming HD video on the go.
I have vzw lte and tmo hspa (via straight talk) with both I see ~10Mbps in and around southern california, so I too see no need to rush out for an LTE phone AND I figure the n5 will have it so in a year this will all be moot.
Hung0702 said:
I guess a lot of people hoping for LTE are on AT&T. I get a bit 2-3 Mbps down, 1-1.5 Mbps up (250-375 KB/s and 125-188 KB/s, I don't get why people use bits for bandwidth when everyone is clearly more familiar with bytes...).
I wonder if you need a smartphone plan on AT&T to get LTE on an off-network-branded device. I'm using MediaNET and I'd rather pay $10 for unlimited 3G than $25 for 2GB of 4G. If we can eventually use LTE incognito on AT&T and keep our MediaNET plans, I'll be happy. Doesn't really make a difference to me either way. 3G speeds are more than good enough for browsing. I don't mind a little buffering if I'm streaming HD video on the go.
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Pre payed att you do require a smartphone plan to get the full speed. It will be like 50 bucks I believe..
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You guys are lucky. I literally get less than .2Mbps down/up where I live due to it being 2G :crying:. Always on my 30/5 WiFi. Sometimes I'll get upwards of 5 in the city. Some "4G" eh? T-Mobile is an absolute joke for me here and I HATE it.
LTE is king for latency.
I play a lot of counterstrike, and there used to be a regular who'd play over VZW LTE. Guy had lower latency than I did over cable. More important, he seemed completely fluid in the game-- no jitter or packet loss. Completely playable. That's huge.
Your thread title's pretty misleading. There is a big difference between 16.5MBPS and 16.5MbPS.