I live in the Chicago area and am testing out AT&T service and the Tilt (thinking of switching from Verizon). Anyway, late last night the Tilt started searching for signal and could not find the Voice or Data network. I tried doing a hard reset... still nothing. When I got up this morning, it was still searching. I tried another hard reset, and now it is able to get on the voice network. The data network is working as well, but only as Edge, as it does not seem to see 3G capabilities anymore.
My question is do you think this is an issue with the radio, the SIM or simply AT&T's network. I was using 3G with no issues since Friday. The phone is brand new and was working flawlessly until last night. I did not perform any tweaks, or install any software other than Flexmail.
Your input is appreciated.
SC
Dont worry, it could be just a network (provider) issue.
I got 3G signal at home, but sometimes (very rare) I got GPRS only
It will be ok
i am in chicago and all of today couldn't get on 3G, I hope it is network because I didn't change anything from when it was working till now
I don't think this is a network problem. For 2 days everything was fine. Now, mine does the same thing as eras2r. Works fine on Edge but when I am on 3G, it not only fails to connect for data, but it also kicks me off the voice network. Takes about 5 minutes or more to reconect. Sometimes it throws me out when 9n 3G area for no reason. AT&T told me to return, but since I was Premiere, I could only do an exchange. Total suck. Hopefully I get my new one and it won't have this prob.
Turns out it was a radio ROM problem. Need to make sure you are using:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Kaiser/Radio/KAIS_Radio_Only_1.27.12.17_CustomRUU.rar
I had 1.27.12.11 and it was killing me, but now all is good in the World!
I just took a trip for the weekend and much of the area i travelled thru didnt have cell service. However I found that when my phone was in a cell service area it wasnt making calls. here is the scenario...
driving down the highway, my cell isnt finding a signal, it sets itself to the airplane setting & thus calls cant be made, my wife's curve has a signal & she's on the phone, so i turn the phone back on & try to make a call...it ends my calls before it rings. i try to wait to see if its a timing issue, 10 minutes lapses, wife still on phone, i try to make a call, no go.
i had to cut my phone off & cut it back on to get the phone to work?? it recognized a signal as i had 1 bar of signal reception on the tilt and my wife's curve had 2 bars. but it'd never start a call. i'd see that it said calling, 3-5 secs later it said call ended...
anyone have any idea as to why this would happen or why i'd be required to restart everytime i leave a cell service area & reenter one? any fixes? i searched for my title & found no results...
Are you on 3G or GSM when it fails? If it's on 3G, you could have that problem, try to switch to GSM only and see if it's better.
kilrah said:
Are you on 3G or GSM when it fails? If it's on 3G, you could have that problem, try to switch to GSM only and see if it's better.
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well as far as i know we're not getting 3g until may...but i do drive towards a 3g network, so it may have been switching over to 3g prior to driving into the back country?
kilrah said:
Are you on 3G or GSM when it fails? If it's on 3G, you could have that problem, try to switch to GSM only and see if it's better.
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i checked & the phone is actually set to gsm only already...so this cant be the issue. any other thoughts?
Wish I had an answer, but my phone does the same thing. I must reset the phone to get a signal
onemilehigh said:
Wish I had an answer, but my phone does the same thing. I must reset the phone to get a signal
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what rom are you on? the 162 htc/att rom? bcuz i know now i am having a problem i wasnt before. because there is a building downtown that doesnt get cell service in it, and i frequent that building. i never had the issue on my original tilt on the 158 (i believe) rom, but this rma came w/ 162 rom & now im having the issue in that bldg too. which goes to further prove its not the 3g network theory. its just a matter of losing signal & then getting signal back where i am experiencing the issue.
thanks for any help.
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Wish I had an answer, but my phone does the same thing. I must reset the phone to get a signal
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I had/have(?) the same problem. Called ATT and got a replacement. Hopefully this fixes it.
sharpja said:
I had/have(?) the same problem. Called ATT and got a replacement. Hopefully this fixes it.
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please post the results...bcuz i hope i dont have to rma yet again!!!
stanGib said:
please post the results...bcuz i hope i dont have to rma yet again!!!
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Today was day one with the new tilt and it didn't have the problem. However, my old one wasn't consistent one way or the other, either, so I'll have to give the new one some time.
(work for at&t) New phone will not fix this problem, nothin wrong w/ phone. U need to go to a local corp store and change the SIM and get someone who knows what they r doing so they put all of the SIM updates while plugged into the comp. OTA updates will never work w/o these initial updates.
I have an issue where i'm connected to the net (GPRS/hdspa) and occasionally i will lose the connection whislt the connection is still active..
No internet functions will work even when i reconnect
I have to then restart the phone to be able to use the internet again
Not the same issue but something similar
Same problem here. It is not possible to establish a 3G connection. If I set the BAND in the telephone Settings to GSM the connection is stable. If try to establish a 3g connection all further connection trys will fail.
I already changed my Kaiser, it did not help.
Update:
T-mobile will sent me a new sim card. Hope this will help...
Hi:
I have a Tilt on AT&T's network. Today I was about an hour away from home, and noticed a complete loss of signal. My other phone, a Motorola Razr V3xx, had 3 bars of signal at the same time. I had this same problem in the same rural area before, and just assumed there was nothing I could do about it.
This time though I decided to turn off 3G on the Tilt (since I know it can sometimes interfere with reception), and still nothing. Then I did a soft reset (still had 3G off), and I finally found a signal, as well as the Roaming icon.
Is this normal behavior? The Razr also has 3G, but apparently must switch over to edge when it is in a non-3G area. Why would my Tilt need to be manually reset in order to find a signal?
Thanks!
Hi:
I'd really appreciate any reply
Even if it's to tell me that this is unheard of behavior. My warranty is about to expire, and need to have my phone replaced before it expires if this is a fault unique to my phone.
Thanks again!
cincy1020 said:
Hi:
I have a Tilt on AT&T's network. Today I was about an hour away from home, and noticed a complete loss of signal. My other phone, a Motorola Razr V3xx, had 3 bars of signal at the same time. I had this same problem in the same rural area before, and just assumed there was nothing I could do about it.
This time though I decided to turn off 3G on the Tilt (since I know it can sometimes interfere with reception), and still nothing. Then I did a soft reset (still had 3G off), and I finally found a signal, as well as the Roaming icon.
Is this normal behavior? The Razr also has 3G, but apparently must switch over to edge when it is in a non-3G area. Why would my Tilt need to be manually reset in order to find a signal?
Thanks!
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I'm not sure why but your phone should have switched automatically. For me, I have my band set to GSM manually.
Are you using usually using 3G with no problem? There's a hardware fault in some devices that will appear about a few months of usage where 3G becomes inoperative. When connected on 3G calls will fail, and one needs to force GSM and reboot to be able to use the phone again. Return to service center needed for repair, mine is there now.
Hi:
Thanks so much for your replies!
I think I probably need a replacement phone, so I guess on Monday I'll call and spend the 15+ hours p) on the phone to AT&T to get a new one, lol.
Kilrah, yes my 3G usually works fine, but apparently when I go into a non 3G area it just loses signal. My phone never really gets great reception anyway, so hopefully the replacement will be an all around improvement.
Thanks again!!
Suddenly it had happened; NO 3G nor GPRS data transmission. I can see the 3G sign , but when I make calls the phone disconnects; when somebody call me, he received a message that my phone is off line. Only when 3G signal is on. But when normal GSM is on, everything will be OK. My phone can not get data from the internet, even though it shows that is is connected. I tried all of the above solutions to fix this problem but no helpand sometimes it shows 3g sign but as soon as i try to call some1 all the signals are gone.. I tried to hard reset and try it before installing any software, no help. I tried mostly all available ROMs and Radio ROMs; even the original, but not fixed. I do not what to do. Now, I am using the phone with GSM only, NO 3G. Please help!!!
nunu said:
Suddenly it had happened; NO 3G nor GPRS data transmission. I can see the 3G sign , but when I make calls the phone disconnects; when somebody call me, he received a message that my phone is off line. Only when 3G signal is on. But when normal GSM is on, everything will be OK. My phone can not get data from the internet, even though it shows that is is connected. I tried all of the above solutions to fix this problem but no helpand sometimes it shows 3g sign but as soon as i try to call some1 all the signals are gone.. I tried to hard reset and try it before installing any software, no help. I tried mostly all available ROMs and Radio ROMs; even the original, but not fixed. I do not what to do. Now, I am using the phone with GSM only, NO 3G. Please help!!!
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Might kinda help to tell folks where you live. Country? State/province?
UK,London
thnx for your reply i live in London,United Kingdom
Signal lost, this might help...
nunu said:
Suddenly it had happened; NO 3G nor GPRS data transmission. I can see the 3G sign , but when I make calls the phone disconnects; when somebody call me, he received a message that my phone is off line. Only when 3G signal is on. But when normal GSM is on, everything will be OK. My phone can not get data from the internet, even though it shows that is is connected. I tried all of the above solutions to fix this problem but no helpand sometimes it shows 3g sign but as soon as i try to call some1 all the signals are gone.. I tried to hard reset and try it before installing any software, no help. I tried mostly all available ROMs and Radio ROMs; even the original, but not fixed. I do not what to do. Now, I am using the phone with GSM only, NO 3G. Please help!!!
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Hi there nunu,
I had the same problem, went back to the store and nope not a known problem.... So I started to troubleshoot this
1. normal G connection
2. 3G appears or even H
3. signal lost and after 30 sec. the cycle starts again.
what worked for me was the changing the of the radio version. I am currently in the Netherlands and here the NEON_Radinly_1.65.24.36 works fine, I confirmed it by loading a rom with a different radio in it and the result was again the same.
hope this helped in any way...
Let me (us) know.
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are you trying to connect with [email protected] / cingular1 ?
this is the kinda information you should have put in your first post
I use the above and have zero problems in Philadelphia
My 3G went out for like a day here (Phone only worked on Edge), then it started working again. Cellular carriers do have outages from time to time. Has it been a long while since it stopped working?
nunu said:
Suddenly it had happened; NO 3G nor GPRS data transmission. I can see the 3G sign , but when I make calls the phone disconnects; when somebody call me, he received a message that my phone is off line. Only when 3G signal is on. But when normal GSM is on, everything will be OK. My phone can not get data from the internet, even though it shows that is is connected. I tried all of the above solutions to fix this problem but no helpand sometimes it shows 3g sign but as soon as i try to call some1 all the signals are gone.. I tried to hard reset and try it before installing any software, no help. I tried mostly all available ROMs and Radio ROMs; even the original, but not fixed. I do not what to do. Now, I am using the phone with GSM only, NO 3G. Please help!!!
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Flash to a different compatible radio. If you do not get 3G/H service back, then you have a hardware issue with your radio, and will need to have the phone serviced.
what newtwork are you on?
have you tried your sim in a different handset?
what happens when running in gsm only mode?
in settings phone network change selection to manual and tap find networks and reselect network (this is known as a manual roam) does this make a difference?
Same here!, im in montreal, canada with Rogers, and in 3g doesnt work, it detects the 3G network, but as soon as i try to make a call or go on the internet it looses the signal and i have to go on GSM mode.
and i'm using LKDV12 but i still had the same problem on AT&T Original rom, and Dual V2.
Anyone?
Major problem --
I have been travelling round the world for a year and have the same problem, Have tried many radios, if I use 3G( wscdma) or auto band then the signal drops everytime i try to make a call, and no data is possible however if I use gsm only data and voice work fine, thease symptoms are on many networks, Chile, Easter Island,Tahiti, NZ, Fiji, Optus ( OZ ), and m1 ( singapore ),
Radios tried
EMO 1.71.09.01
Neon 1.65.24.36
1.65.21.18 ( att )
I even loaded the generic dopod rom + radio and it didnt seem to help.
Is it possible something low level has changed whilst doing all this flashing ?
Or could the Hard SPL affect something.
I always try to buy a 3G USIM in each country and test the sim in a backup G800 to ensure the carrier has enabled 3g data okay.
Phone is Kaiser ( HTC TytnII )
ROM is varied but and usually lorentis series roms -- L26 12 light atm
Symptoms, 3G icon shows but data wont connect, if you try to call radio strength bar drops to zero and cell communications are lost , sometimes reestablishes comms but often needs soft reset to band switch to work.
If 3G icon not showing all calls and GPRS data works Okay.
Personally I would not expect this to be a hardware failiure as many others are experiencing teh same fault and for working hardware to fail in use is more erratic in the failiure mode, but a low level register, or some other type of protocol corruption could easiliy be the cause......
The proven "high GPS current consumption in standby" issue is also present as it seems to be on all Kaisers but afaik the root cause of this was never resolved either .....
my Kaiser do not work with 3G only works on GSM NEED HELP
HI I´m from mexico telcel gsm band and the same problm works on my kaiser tried changing the rom put the htc rom again the radio too
settingsROM 1.62.502.0 WINDOWS MOBILE 6 BUILD 1828.0.4.4
RADIO 1.27.14.09
PROTOCOL 22.45.88.07H
by the way how can i make it work on gsm only or edge or other than 3g that doesn't work
tks for your assistance iñm getting frustrated
edge
nunu said:
Suddenly it had happened; NO 3G nor GPRS data transmission. I can see the 3G sign , but when I make calls the phone disconnects; when somebody call me, he received a message that my phone is off line. Only when 3G signal is on. But when normal GSM is on, everything will be OK. My phone can not get data from the internet, even though it shows that is is connected. I tried all of the above solutions to fix this problem but no helpand sometimes it shows 3g sign but as soon as i try to call some1 all the signals are gone.. I tried to hard reset and try it before installing any software, no help. I tried mostly all available ROMs and Radio ROMs; even the original, but not fixed. I do not what to do. Now, I am using the phone with GSM only, NO 3G. Please help!!!
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i have the same problem did you make it work how you set a gsm band instead of the 3g on the phone tks for your assis
dr.vogel
I have the same problem. Already had it with WM6.0 original HTC ROM (Finnish ROM, but language set to English). Then sent it to service. It came back, they said they "reapplied software or smth" and it worked after that. Then after 6.1 update again, the same problem (even with the latest updated Radio ROM).
When I set band selection to auto, it picks up 3G or even H but tends to loose it and definetly looses connection to network if I try to make a call. Can't take any incoming calls either.
It works ok when I force it to use GSM (EDGE for data) on Band selection tab, in phone properties.
I probably won't bother taking it to service anymore cause there is no local service here in Estonia, they ship it to Finland and it will take a minimum of 3 weeks...
... so I'm waiting for Xperia X1 and hope it's not as much HTC.
nunu said:
Suddenly it had happened; NO 3G nor GPRS data transmission. I can see the 3G sign , but when I make calls the phone disconnects; when somebody call me, he received a message that my phone is off line. Only when 3G signal is on. But when normal GSM is on, everything will be OK. My phone can not get data from the internet, even though it shows that is is connected. I tried all of the above solutions to fix this problem but no helpand sometimes it shows 3g sign but as soon as i try to call some1 all the signals are gone.. I tried to hard reset and try it before installing any software, no help. I tried mostly all available ROMs and Radio ROMs; even the original, but not fixed. I do not what to do. Now, I am using the phone with GSM only, NO 3G. Please help!!!
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Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335074
Hardware problem, repair needed and unavoidable to get 3G functionality back.
I have the same problem.
I bought an O2 Stellar (Kaiser) from a work colleague and it worked fine on 3G/Auto on the day I bought it.
The next morning, when I switched on the phone, it had exactly the symptoms described (i.e. it would only work if forced into GSM mode).
My colleague took it back to O2 under warranty.
1 week later, it was returned as 'fixed', but it actually still had the problem, so my colleague returned it again to O2.
Another week later, O2 provided a replacement unit under warranty.
The replacement worked fine, until the next morning when I turned on the phone and had to force it into GSM mode again because it wouldn't work in 3G/Auto mode.
I'm on 3 in the UK and I suspect the problem is something to do with the roaming onto Orange GSM which happens when there is no 3G signal from 3UK. However, on the day each of the units worked, it was switching between 3G and GSM repeatedly because the 3G signal is fairly poor in my office.
I'm now waiting for my colleague to return from his holiday so that he can return this unit to O2 and we'll see if we get another replacement. If we do, I'm very reluctant to actually use it - I think I'll probably just sell it on and get something different. Shame because I really like the Kaiser.
as mentioned before, another thing that you should've tried is to call the helpline and see if there's an outage in your area. I've been experiencing the same problem in a very particular area (3G hand-off to EDGE problem only happens on campus). Tried different radios and problem still exist, so I gave them a call today and turned out that there is an outage here.
In my case, it's not caused by a network outage - 3G works fine on my Hermes in the same locations.
Good thought though.
Relax boys...I have'd the same problem... The only solution is to go with your phone for warranty return. There they will change your TyTN II mother board and all will be ok. IT IS THE ONLY WAY.
PS do the same thing I did http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418375
i post this thead and the solution
i post this tread an the solution came on tha answer of various of you great ideas i get the solution changing the rom and the wm to 6.1 and the rom is the dutty's it has worked almost perfectly in any wy itested only some install on the gps progrms but no mayor problem tks all you friens for a great support
The same thing has happened to me as well (Orange UK).
Initially I thought that it was an outage in my area as my friends had problems connecting to 3G as well, but their problem has been fixed but I still cannot.
I'll be contacting their tech support dept. later today and I'll post back.
Hey everyone, long time reader, but I don't think I've ever posted before. I've had a HTC Touch Pro for a few months and I think its a great phone. Last was an iMate JASJAM.
I seem to get great HSDPA reception at my home, and a little bit in my office, but drops out all the time at work and goes back to EDGE, skipping 3G altogether.
This wouldnt normaly bother me too much, but 3 charges for going off their data network, and doesnt go towards my download cap, is additional.
I've tried out every radio that you guys have here for it, and none seem to help. And I have taken the SIM out of the phone and put it in my old JASJAM and it gets 3G reception fine in the same spot.
Maybe the actual physical antenna in the Touch Pro is very weak or something...
Any ideas peeps?
Thanks in advance
Forgot to mention, very occaisionaly in certain areas of canberra, I can get 3G reception and HSDPA, annoyingly enough, whenever I am at a 3 store