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I tried to Hard Reset my XDA IIi as one day right half of the screen was not responding to stylus. Now major problem as it is stuck on Align screen. Tried many times to hard reboot it but the same problem. Then I drained both batteries but the problem is there. Now I tried starting it up while pressing at the same time power button, action button and soft reset button. I am getting a dimmed screen which says Serial and at the bottom v1.01 nothingelse.
It synchronises with my PC and I can see the files are there but no idea as to why it will not start.
HELP, PLEASE!
upsbsh
Location: UK
Device(s): XDA IIi 1.60.50
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Most strange death of XDA IIi
Also some other reports on other models:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=285578&highlight=#285578
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50142&highlight=align
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=48540&highlight=align
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=27054&highlight=align
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37570&highlight=align
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=5548&highlight=align
Hang on... You put your device into bootloader mode, docked it and it synced ok and let you see your files? That doesn't sound right at all. When I put my Alpine into bootloader mode (when I was updating the Radio firmware once upon a time) once the phone was in bootloader mode (with the plain black Version 1.01 text on a blank screen) I couldn't sync my device or see any of the files held in RAM, so it sounds like there's really something wrong with your unit.
Have you tried (re)installing the same version of firmware, see if that does the job? It sounds like a deep-rooted software issue....
well, in bootloader mode, nothing to see of course. however, while stuck in the dead-loop of 'aligh screen', synchroniser still works and you can see everything inside! strange!!! beats me.
i tried before to detach the battery for a few hours so as to drain the backup battery. it didn't work for me. shall post again if it works for me if i leave it longer...
i reloaded 1.11.162 and 1.11.172 rom rom o2 and also the o2-stripped version with 1.04 radio, respectively, but none worked...
don't know if wm5 would help, but it's not available for IIi.
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Beginning to sound like you have a hardware fault then, if you've tried multiple different firmwares on fresh installs... Is the device still in warranty?
christopherwoods said:
Beginning to sound like you have a hardware fault then, if you've tried multiple different firmwares on fresh installs... Is the device still in warranty?
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had the same problem before..located the problem..and guess what..the screen is screwed..your only remedy is to replace the screen..damn costly as well..or dump the pda and get a new one ...
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Beginning to sound like you have a hardware fault then, if you've tried multiple different firmwares on fresh installs... Is the device still in warranty?
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had the same problem before..located the problem..and guess what..the screen is screwed..your only remedy is to replace the screen..damn costly as well..or dump the pda and get a new one ...
dvng said:
had the same problem before..located the problem..and guess what..the screen is screwed..your only remedy is to replace the screen..damn costly as well..or dump the pda and get a new one ...
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Wow, an insightful technical answer there then....and it's also a wrong one.
The failure of the digitiser overlay could be down to foreign objects stuck between the screen and the casing rim ( crumbs, solid dust etc etc), or warping / damage to the pressure sensitive overlay - look for scratches or 'puddle' areas on the screen that *look* like water between the sections - these are where the overlay is touching the digitiser glass and if this happens then the screen cannot calibrate as the pressure is not uniform. Heat can also warp the plastic overlay. Or, the connection between the overlay ribbon and screen ribbon could have become loose / broken.
In all instances if the digitiser is damaged you do NOT need an entire screen if the display is still working - you need to open the phone, remove the digitiser frame from the LCD assembly, source a new one and solder back on.
Digitisers are about £35 or so when they come up on ebay, I source mine from PDA's with broken LCD's - if you cannot get the exact type most of a similar size can be made to work - there are only 4 connections.
Now it may be difficult for the novice to do or hard to find a digitiser, but a 'new screen' is NOT the only option in this case just becuase *you* cannot do it or hadn't thought of it.
Richard.
Interesting that, because on my PDA I had that "water" effect in the centre of the screen (where I just bunged my Alpine in my pocket, and it got pushed against my thigh) - I put a screen cover on mine, and it seems to have solved the problem - it must be the even amount of surface tension applied across the top screen surface which has gradually pulled it away from the digitiser overlay layer, solving the problem.
I never had any accuracy problems anyway, and I succesfully realigned my screen a few times (just because I like tweaking) to see if it made a difference with the screen making contact with the digitiser overlay, and it always worked fine - but buying a £5 screen protector and seeing if that makes a difference could be a cheaper alternative to getting a new digitiser overlay.
[edit] Woop! 200th post. Time to crack open a beer [/edit]
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dvng said:
had the same problem before..located the problem..and guess what..the screen is screwed..your only remedy is to replace the screen..damn costly as well..or dump the pda and get a new one ...
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Wow, an insightful technical answer there then....and it's also a wrong one.
The failure of the digitiser overlay could be down to foreign objects stuck between the screen and the casing rim ( crumbs, solid dust etc etc), or warping / damage to the pressure sensitive overlay - look for scratches or 'puddle' areas on the screen that *look* like water between the sections - these are where the overlay is touching the digitiser glass and if this happens then the screen cannot calibrate as the pressure is not uniform. Heat can also warp the plastic overlay. Or, the connection between the overlay ribbon and screen ribbon could have become loose / broken.
In all instances if the digitiser is damaged you do NOT need an entire screen if the display is still working - you need to open the phone, remove the digitiser frame from the LCD assembly, source a new one and solder back on.
Digitisers are about £35 or so when they come up on ebay, I source mine from PDA's with broken LCD's - if you cannot get the exact type most of a similar size can be made to work - there are only 4 connections.
Now it may be difficult for the novice to do or hard to find a digitiser, but a 'new screen' is NOT the only option in this case just becuase *you* cannot do it or hadn't thought of it.
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actuallly..before i concluded that the screen was screwed..i have tried all the options that was mentioned by you..the digitiser overlay is not easily fixed or replaceable..in fact i have opened up the casing..clean it and also check the ribbon connectors in case it was loose..someone have tried to remove the digitiser and failed as the digitiser glass is extremely brittle and cracked whislt removing it..digitisers are also hard to come by and apparently they dont sell them separately now..only source is from a used lcd screen..the most convenient after all failed way was actually to replace the screen..
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dvng said:
actuallly..before i concluded that the screen was screwed..i have tried all the options that was mentioned by you..the digitiser overlay is not easily fixed or replaceable..in fact i have opened up the casing..clean it and also check the ribbon connectors in case it was loose..someone have tried to remove the digitiser and failed as the digitiser glass is extremely brittle and cracked whislt removing it..digitisers are also hard to come by and apparently they dont sell them separately now..only source is from a used lcd screen..the most convenient after all failed way was actually to replace the screen..
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Nope, they're all over ebay from taiwan for about £25 plus postage but this is just the overlay with glass not the frame, and they *are* easy to fit - I've done a how to guide I'll post later. You don't need to remove the old one in one piece to fit the new one....
You said a new screen was 'the only remedy' - it isn't.
Richard
Interesting, interesting - I look forward to seeing that guide!
Hello,
I have the same problem described above, so my XDA2i is
stuck on the first screen align window and can't go over...
I wish to buy only the digitizer from an ebay user, but I have some questions:
-is the digitizer solded on the LCD?
-are the digitizer and the LCD two single parts?
-there's an howTo guide to disassemble the XDA2i?
thanks
Alessandro
Hello everyone!
I actually managed to change the digitizer of the LCD of XDA II. To answer the previous questions first:
Yes - the digitizer can be separated from LCD, although it is not easy. I used an old fashioned razor blade to do it, since these are very,very thin and do not put excessive pressure onto the digitizer screen during the pressure. The digitizer is made of very fragile glass panel and glued onto LCD with a double sided sellotape (at least looks like it, when removed..) Glue is very sticky and I had to take great care not to brake the old digitizer - took me 2h to remove it. In general braking the old one is not really a big deal as long as the LCD itself is not damaged by the sharp edges of the digitizer glass. Since the risk is there I figured I'd spend a bit more time on removal but at least be sure about a positive outcome of the project. There was a certain screen protector on my device, not installed by me since I acquired the gadget on e-bay. I took care of removing it from digitizer first and only then proceeded to remove the digitizer from LCD.
The digitizer has 4 connections soldered to the LCD. Opening the soldered contacts is simple, if one has any background in soldering at all. The difficult part is to remove the digitizer from LCD, really. Another difficult part seemed to be the soldering of the new one. There are XDA digitizers on the ebay, they do not have the same contact as the XDA manufactured ones so the really difficult part was figuring out how to create the contact. The old one had 4 contacts soldered in a small rectangle going clockwise from lowest left towards lowest right..
The solution does not look exactly elegant, but who cares how the gadget looks on the inside, as long as it works! The 4 contact block of the newly bought digitizer was divided into 4 separate hair-thin contacts and the two outermost contacts (those that come on the left lowest corner and right lowest corner of the small rectangle connection) were soldered first, then a bit of an isolation tape (a simple synthetic tape used for paper repairs et cetera) was applied over the freshly soldered contacts to prevent short circuiting. After that the two upper contacts were soldered and those covered with another piece of tape.
The new digitizer came with double sided tape as well, so after careful alignment it was easy to glue it in the place of the old one. The main thing during this process is to clean the LCD and digitizer from all dirt and fingerprints, I used alchol for that - vodka, to be exact. I reapplied the screen protector to the casing before putting the complete lcd+digitizer block into the device, but I suppose not all screen protectors can be reapplied that easily..
In the end the connection looked crazy but in principle all was as should be and after the reassembly the device was 100% alive again with the screen aligning properly! It was certainly a risky business but I bought the faulty XDA for 60GBP and the digitizer for 10GBP, 70GBP for a fully working XDA is a bargain I think, not to mention an excellent adrenaline rush during some moments of the project
I can provide the pictures of the finished connection if needed, it will require me to disassemble my Alpine again though..
I'd definitely find some photos useful - stick em up on flickr for us please, thanks
Excellent to hear that you got it all sorted, and got a bargain out of it. I don't think my wobbly soldering iron skills would be quite up to what you managed to achieve (usually I end up cauterising more skin than I do soldering wires whenever I have to solder as part of my Uni course, it's a bit of a love/hate relationship between me and soldering irons... I love to hate them).
OK, my apologies for the quality of pictures - smartphones are not too great in this respect and I do not have a digital camera. The big grainy one is my XDA - notice the medusa-like wire cluster next to the shiny manufacturers soldering The second picture shows the actual digitizer that was installed, here note the connector - that had to be divided by scalpel.
Excellent mate, thanks very much.
Congratulations on that, TommyGun! (Labi, ka ir Jc )
Indeed, without a good friend and solderer Johnc, who himself uses mere "phone" all this might have gone otherwise Hail to soldermasters!
Dissamble O2 XDA 2i
Hello all
I've got this problem with my old trust O2 XDA 2i now. I cannot get past the alignment screen at the momemt.
Looks like I would have to disassemble it now and replace the digitiser.. Would a clean up help or should I try to completely replace the digitiser?
Any guide/ steps to disassemble the XDA 2i would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Kunal
I'm assuming I smashed my At&t tilt or something, there is no cracks on the screen or anything, but the pic below shows the display I get. I'll have the phone for about a year in about 2 weeks. Anyone have an idea as to how much At&t or HTC will charge to fix this or am I better off buying a new phone? Or any ideas as to what could be broken and how it can be fixed? It doesn't allow me to do a hard reset. Thanks
well i don't know if warranty will cover it or not but you are still under your one year warranty so you could try to get a replacement. Its hard to say what could be causing it. You can check out mike channon's articles on disassembling a kaiser.
Good luck.
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I'm assuming I smashed my At&t tilt or something, there is no cracks on the screen or anything, but the pic below shows the display I get. I'll have the phone for about a year in about 2 weeks. Anyone have an idea as to how much At&t or HTC will charge to fix this or am I better off buying a new phone? Or any ideas as to what could be broken and how it can be fixed? It doesn't allow me to do a hard reset. Thanks
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Well to my trained eye, it looks as though you have actually cracked the lcd screen. This damage isnt generally covered by any manufacturers standard warranty. Unless you purchased an extra warranty including accidental damage, I think its up to you to repair yourself unless you want to spend 400USD + for the repair. Taking it apart isnt terribly difficult and I have seen links to lcd screens posted all over for no more than 100USD. Check Ebay also.
http://cgi.ebay.com/LCD-Replacemet-...39:1|66:2|65:12|240:1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Here is one for 45 USD
Hope this helps ya
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Well to my trained eye, it looks as though you have actually cracked the lcd screen. This damage isnt generally covered by any manufacturers standard warranty. Unless you purchased an extra warranty including accidental damage, I think its up to you to repair yourself unless you want to spend 400USD + for the repair. Taking it apart isnt terribly difficult and I have seen links to lcd screens posted all over for no more than 100USD. Check Ebay also.
http://cgi.ebay.com/LCD-Replacemet-...39:1|66:2|65:12|240:1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Here is one for 45 USD
Hope this helps ya
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I don't see a crack in the screen. Can there still be a crack in it that isn't visible or not noticeable until you take it apart? If that's the case I'll either buy a new screen or just buy a new phone on ebay for 200bux. Also anyone have any recommended sites on how to replace the screen?
This raises a great question for me. i work in a clean room/static sensative environment and repair and calibrate many different types of electronics (mostly signal generators & spectrum analyzers). I was wondering if anyone here has actually attempted to replace a LCD screen with success. And if so, how complicated the process was. I have downloaded the schematical drawings and have found replacement parts for the kaiser online for extremely cheap. i will post the site as soon as i find it again.
I did a screen replacement on a Wizard, and it wasn't that difficult. just make sure you don't break anything while trying to pry small pieces off to get to the screen.
Stu_Can_Sam said:
This raises a great question for me. i work in a clean room/static sensative environment and repair and calibrate many different types of electronics (mostly signal generators & spectrum analyzers). I was wondering if anyone here has actually attempted to replace a LCD screen with success. And if so, how complicated the process was. I have downloaded the schematical drawings and have found replacement parts for the kaiser online for extremely cheap. i will post the site as soon as i find it again.
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ITs easy as hell.
I've done it two times with success.
Its only matter of two connection belts and thats all at all .
Screen replacement is really easy here.
brianlb said:
I don't see a crack in the screen. Can there still be a crack in it that isn't visible or not noticeable until you take it apart? If that's the case I'll either buy a new screen or just buy a new phone on ebay for 200bux. Also anyone have any recommended sites on how to replace the screen?
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Generally you will NOT see a physical crack on the surface. The surface is actually JUST a digitizer ( a separate piece which is built into or ontop of your LCD for input purposes ). The digitizer is basically your touch screen portion of the LCD. What is actually cracked is the thin film below that which contains all of the liquid crystals.
As far as the replacement goes, I believe it is Michael Channon who has the step by step instructions on how to disassemble and replace the LCD. It isnt a hard task from what I can tell. I had taken my hermes ( Tytan ) apart so many times that i could do it in my sleep. Its not a terribly difficult process.
Here is Michaels Guide
Its not in English but its not hard to follow the pictures. He has done a great job at documenting the procedure.
If you are a bit scared to try it yourself, have a geeky friend do it for you ( maybe get him a date to a movie or something lol )
It should only cost you no more than 50$USD to repair ( Minus the bribe for a date lol )
Hope this helps you out !
pyraxiate said:
Generally you will NOT see a physical crack on the surface. The surface is actually JUST a digitizer ( a separate piece which is built into or ontop of your LCD for input purposes ). The digitizer is basically your touch screen portion of the LCD. What is actually cracked is the thin film below that which contains all of the liquid crystals.
As far as the replacement goes, I believe it is Michael Channon who has the step by step instructions on how to disassemble and replace the LCD. It isnt a hard task from what I can tell. I had taken my hermes ( Tytan ) apart so many times that i could do it in my sleep. Its not a terribly difficult process.
Here is Michaels Guide
Its not in English but its not hard to follow the pictures. He has done a great job at documenting the procedure.
If you are a bit scared to try it yourself, have a geeky friend do it for you ( maybe get him a date to a movie or something lol )
It should only cost you no more than 50$USD to repair ( Minus the bribe for a date lol )
Hope this helps you out !
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Thx, I'm gonna give it a shot. I went ahead and bought the screen off ebay from the post by pyraxiate. Worst case I mess it up and buy a new phone of ebay for 150-200, which is what I originally thought I'd have to do, so this at least gives me a chance to save some $$$
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Thx, I'm gonna give it a shot. I went ahead and bought the screen off ebay from the post by pyraxiate. Worst case I mess it up and buy a new phone of ebay for 150-200, which is what I originally thought I'd have to do, so this at least gives me a chance to save some $$$
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Glad I could help
Got it all done, actually my pops did it. Works great, he took it apart just like the Mike Channon pics show, don't know if you had to do all of it or not just to replace the screen, but he did. Only one little annoying thing now that it's back together is that a small part of the black plastic out case hangs out just a tab and isn't flush, which makes it a little annoying when hitting the power/standby button on the right side of the phone. But I can learn to live with that I think. thanks for all the help.
congratulations!
good to hear you've achieved a successful repair!
correct me if i'm wrong...are you saying that the two halves of the phone (screen and keyboard) don't align properly when the keyboard is closed? if so, i remember a thread in this section of the kaiser forums that details (with pictures) how to possibly fix that particular problem!!!
"search and ye shall foundeth it !!!"
brianlb said:
Got it all done, actually my pops did it. Works great, he took it apart just like the Mike Channon pics show, don't know if you had to do all of it or not just to replace the screen, but he did. Only one little annoying thing now that it's back together is that a small part of the black plastic out case hangs out just a tab and isn't flush, which makes it a little annoying when hitting the power/standby button on the right side of the phone. But I can learn to live with that I think. thanks for all the help.
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Im glad i could help Im also glad to hear the phone is up and running again
As was stated before, there is a thread for the case not aligning. I did some quick looking but to no avail. If i come across it ill be sure to post it
I'm not sure if I'm explaining it correctly. But it's basically the outer case, and around the power button it's not flush. Not sure if you can tell from my pics. I tried also doing a search w/no luck. I'm sure there is some specific name or something other than case that it's under.
When i replaced my faceplate i had the same problem. all i did was push it in...kinda hard, and it poped in, or you could use a plasic flathead and pop it back in...
DemoShadow said:
When i replaced my faceplate i had the same problem. all i did was push it in...kinda hard, and it poped in, or you could use a plasic flathead and pop it back in...
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I tried that, and it doesn't seem to pop in at all.
I think its just like DemoShadow said. I dropped mine once and it seems to be a similar issue. I also just pushed really hard to get it to pop back in. I think its just that clip isnt in place as it should be when it was put back together. If anything, try to take it apart and put it back together
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ITs easy as hell.
I've done it two times with success.
Its only matter of two connection belts and thats all at all .
Screen replacement is really easy here.
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how did you put the keyboard back on????????????????
Can you be more specific?
Hey,
I literally just replaced the screen on my backup Tilt last night. Still got most of it in my head.
What, exactly, do you mean about putting the keyboard back on? Got any pics of where you are now?
This was one of the easiest things I've had to do...asside from it being somewhat tedious. Most of my issues were resolved by MAGNIFICATION! Once I could see what I was doing, there were almost no issues.
I only paid $31.99 on eBay for a screen with free shipping (from USA no less)...less than the $35 I would have had to pay with the insurance through my Provider Dealer...and I didn't have to wait for 3-5 weeks to get it back.
I'd do this for people with broken screens as a service, but I can't guarantee the cost of the screen...it goes up and down too much.
If you can be real descriptive, or have pictures, I'm pretty sure I can help get you back together.
Let me know, I'll keep an eye on this thread...
RAF
here's some dismantling guides
http://www.mikechannon.net/page1.html
you dont have to remove the keyboard to replace the LCD, unless u're talking about the outer keypad, which just sits in its spot
Hi,
Last night I knocked a small table and my girlfriends phone and a remote for the TV fell off.
We noticed that her phone now has a ring of black dots on the screen, mostly visible with a white background (E.G websites) but also from the home screen and the like.
We think she's cancelled her phone insurance, as she's never had a payment out to the company.
Can anyone tell me if its a Digitizer (What is one of these? Is it just the touch screen sensitive part of the phone?) Or the actual LCD Screen itself?
If you click on the photo it will load a larger image
Thanks for any assistance, kinda annoyed about this and wondering if I can repair myself with the parts on ebay. Or does anyone know how much HTC Charge to repair similar? Either in $USD, £GBP or €Eur, I can convert and get a ball park figure.
Hi
First of all is the phone still in warranty? If so take it back to an HTC dealer they should repair it for you for free. TD2 screens are not very good and it's a common fault. ( i had to have mine repaired after just only 3 weeks! )
The TD2 screen is made out of 2 parts, The touch screen or the 'digitizer' as you call it and a normal LCD screen underneath. You need to establish which has gone faulty.
If the touch screen still operates normally i.e the screen does not lock up or freeze and allows you to navigate normally then its the lcd screen below. If the touch screen is faulty one good way of checking is to put a piece of tape over the damaged area and try to lift it up a little to see if the marks / dots disappear and functionality can temporarily be restored.
Its hard to tell from your picture which it is..... sorry
I'm not sure how much a replacement by a dealer would cost, but i'm sure you can replace either yourself. ebay is a good place to look
Hope this helps.
I've had a reply from HTC UK who said the following:
That looks like there are a bunch of very small cracks in the screen. the black stuff is likely the Liquid Crystal from inside the display that has leaked out. If the dots get larger then it would definitely seem that the screen has got some cracks in it.
if this is the case, the standard charge for replacing the LCD is around £180 as sadly it is all one complete unit on the diamond 2, so it is not just the LCD underneath that needs to be replaced, but the whole screen assembly including the touchscreen layer and the actual LCD.
I hope this information helps you to make up your mind.
best regards,
Pete W
HTC
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Reply was fast, I think <1hr from my first email!
I'll see if I can find any HTC Dealer who will send it off on my behalf, but may just end up buying this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LCD-Screen-Di...UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL?hash=item588362a12d
Hi mate,
had the same problem...
the item you psetd from ebay is not the one you need to change.
you need a digitizer, not an lcd screen.
i got one from ebay (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemVersion&item=290376721935&view=all&tid=393718237019), it includes both the lcd and the digitizer, you can check ebay to find other auctions offering the digitizer only.
you can change the digitizer on your own if you don't mind loosing the waranty of your phone.
cheers
Hi,
I had already found this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Touch-Screen-...UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL?hash=item5882e7ef74
Will buy in a bit, funds are a bit short today.
The Touch Screen's functionality hasn't changed at all though, no sticking buttons or anything. So I suspect that its the LCD Screen thats damaged but will follow you're advise as you're going to have more experiance than me (and its the cheaper part to begin with!)
Scrap the above post.. my g/f has just told me that the dots on her phone are bigger/worse. Looks like its the LCD Screen afterall
i still believe it is not the LCD.
the digitizer is actually sitted on a glass, and the LCD is below that. it is very difficult to harm the LCD. i also though it was the LCD (at least i wasn't sure which was broken) so i ordered both of them.
if you disasseble the phone you will be sure if it is the LCD or not.
i vote for the digitizer
good luck, if you need any help, i'll be pleased to help you..
Just to update, A few days after I posted and got helpful advice on here.. she called me up to say the dots have disappeared, and they have still gone now a few days after.
She said she put it in the office where she works, under a printer paper tray, and the office was warm. Something has (maybe only temporarily) fixed it.
I´m having the same exact problem my nephew dropped my phone, i already dissemble it because i was not sure of the lcd type, but when i looked at the digitizer i didn´t see any dots, so i´m not sure what to repair, TS or Digitizer, i allready tried with the tape to pull the digitizer, when it was apart i couldn´t see anything on the lcd no marks at all, opinions please.
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Well F**K me! just bought a second hand diamond 2 to replace my xperia...
...seemed to work great checking it out... went home with the phone in my pocket... and as soon as I turn it on the touch screen doesn't work
dissected the whole phone only to discover the digitizer is glued to the bezel!
I ordered this from Ebay, will update if I got it working with the brand new housing + digitizer: http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380166349182&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
fingeres crossed
Please report back here on this thread if it works
fluke said:
I´m having the same exact problem my nephew dropped my phone, i already dissemble it because i was not sure of the lcd type, but when i looked at the digitizer i didn´t see any dots, so i´m not sure what to repair, TS or Digitizer, i allready tried with the tape to pull the digitizer, when it was apart i couldn´t see anything on the lcd no marks at all, opinions please.
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Can any one help with this matter?
fluke said:
Can any one help with this matter?
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If you can make some photos of the digitizer and the lcd dissasembled maybe, but It seems unlikely to break the lcd when you didn't completely trashed your digitizer.
jodeltje said:
If you can make some photos of the digitizer and the lcd dissasembled maybe, but It seems unlikely to break the lcd when you didn't completely trashed your digitizer.
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Thanks for the reply as I said previously:
I´m having the same exact problem my nephew dropped my phone, i already dissemble it because i was not sure of the lcd type, but when i looked at the digitizer i didn´t see any dots, so i´m not sure what to repair, TS or Digitizer, i allready tried with the tape to pull the digitizer, when it was apart i couldn´t see anything on the lcd no marks at all, opinions please.
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Also the LCD didn´t had any marks at all, but i´m going to buy the TS+LCD and replaced by parts first the lcd because it´s a lot easier to replace then if the problem persists the TS.
I will post the result later when i get the parts to replace.
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I've had a reply from HTC UK who said the following:
Reply was fast, I think <1hr from my first email!
I'll see if I can find any HTC Dealer who will send it off on my behalf, but may just end up buying this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LCD-Screen-Di...UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL?hash=item588362a12d
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Can anyone confirm the above link as being both Lcd and Digitizer? I'm sure it doesn't mention it in the listing but the picture looks like it's showing both connectors.
Most likely only the LCD that's my conclusion if you look at the sellers store.
But to be sure e-mail the seller and ask.
http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/Elect...QQ_sidZ195653022?_nkw=diamond+2&submit=Search
Soooooo, as I've already posted here, My digitizer was busted on the phone I just bought... what I didn't tell was that I ordered a digitizer, then checked if I could remove it easily...came to the conclusion that I couldn't... and ordered a digitizer+housing so I could easily fit it on.
the mail brought me the digitizer today, and while knowing a better solution was on it's way I couldn't resist and try if I could make it work.
Turns out it super easy to seperate the digitizer from the bezel using a hairdryer (softening the glue) and a knife:
Take your phone apart, just the 4 screws, click the plastic center off it. Remove the digitizer cable, the touchscreen cable and the speaker cable.
now you are able to remove the green plate which holds all chips and stuff.
underneath that is the screen, lift it up gently going under it from the gap the removal of volume buttons leaves, put it away safely.
Now remove the speaker, the buttons under the zoom bar, and the power button(don't forget the the power button, and rubbery thingy that falls out of the bottom, the hole needs to be at the bottom when putting it back in).
your phone should be completely empty by now... just the front and the digitize glued together.
make the front of the phone reaaaaaaaaaallllly hot, put the knive between the metal and the digitizer (I started at the part where the zoombar is) and gently push it between the two parts... (from the inside of the phone to the oudside). Now just keep the whole thing above the dryer to keep it warm and slowly slice your way around the phone (no secret wires are there that you can cut through).
I used some random glue I had lying around to glue the front back to the new digitizer... perfect!
so the screen is like new now
ps bought this digitizer: http://cgi.ebay.nl/Touch-Screen-Dig...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item45eed6effc
Thanks for that jodeltje.
It sounds exactly the same as when i replaced the digitizer on an Omnia. Really not as hard as one might imagine. Taking your time and being careful are the most important things.
Hey guys,
I came into same boat last night.
Dropped my T-Mobile MDA Compact V from 2.5ft table, Backwards (Not towards LCD) and now it has black dots on screen. I guess the LCD has pressed backwards by chip sets.
Here is a screenshot.
I think its LCD damaged but I don't have cash to replace nor device warranty.
Do you think the problem solves eventually? Coz once I had dropped sony mobile and it too had same issue but solved after many days.
Hopefully it solves.
BTW; does LCD affixed to Digitizer? by seeing service manual, it doesn't look like it is. And I afraid to get cheap hongkong LCD screens for about 30$ since they won't be true quality display. i.e blueish.
Thanks...
Best Regards
hello CRACING,
sorry about what happened to you...
from the picture i can say that you have a problem with the digitizer...
your LCD is ok.
i tend to have this problem over and over again the last 1,5 years... i replace the digitizer (or the glass on which the digitizer is attached to) every 3-4 months..
yes the ones you get from ebay are not that good quiality, but well it keeps the phone working...
if you need assistance on replacing the digitizer, i can help you, by providing pictures and istructions...
cheers
Hi,
the touch screen of my Xperia V is broken and I'd like to replace it myself. It's not the first time for me that I repair a mobile device myself, but without a disassembly guide, it is difficult for me to identify the parts that are fixed by glue. I don't want to break anything that is still working.
I already found a russian video on YouTube, but it seems to me that the display is not taken apart from the other parts of the device.
Has anyone here done it before?
Thanks in advance!
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grisu59964 said:
Hi,
the touch screen of my Xperia V is broken and I'd like to replace it myself. It's not the first time for me that I repair a mobile device myself, but without a disassembly guide, it is difficult for me to identify the parts that are fixed by glue. I don't want to break anything that is still working.
I already found a russian video on YouTube but it seems to me that the display is not taken apart from the other parts of the device.
Has anyone here done it before?
Thanks in advance!
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Hi,
I've managed to remove the display. Mainly because it was really damaged ... heating the display and "bending" with a small tool.
It's really hard as the glue is quite strong. As my replacement screen is "on it's way" I'm not able to finalize the work.
I'm kind of stuck in the part when removing the "middle, plastic" part...
display is connected to body with really strong glue. Remember that it is impossible to remove old display without breaking it. Second thing is that with new display the phone most likely will not be waterproof
hakanW said:
Hi,
I've managed to remove the display. Mainly because it was really damaged ... heating the display and "bending" with a small tool.
It's really hard as the glue is quite strong. As my replacement screen is "on it's way" I'm not able to finalize the work.
I'm kind of stuck in the part when removing the "middle, plastic" part...
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Hi! I broke mine last night. How did your repair go when the part arrived? I also could only find the russian video without the screen being removed
How hot did you have to make the screen? I was thinking of using an iron with a cloth around it.
Hi Folks, I'm curious to hear how others are going - I managed to break my screen this last week, Hoping to replace it but so far taking out that glass seems to be a tricky thing - any suggestions? How did the iron and cloth go?
canuck82 said:
Hi Folks, I'm curious to hear how others are going - I managed to break my screen this last week, Hoping to replace it but so far taking out that glass seems to be a tricky thing - any suggestions? How did the iron and cloth go?
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There's no way.... You need to buy a new housing with the LCD and touchscreen built in, and then move all your bits over. That's why the russian video of the guy removing everything doesn't remove the screen.
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There's no way.... You need to buy a new housing with the LCD and touchscreen built in, and then move all your bits over. That's why the russian video of the guy removing everything doesn't remove the screen.
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I just ordered this: http://www.parts4repair.com/complete-screen-assembly-for-sony-xperia-v-lt25i/ I will see how that goes. I got tired of using my old SG1 so it's time to fix the V...
Good luck. Careful with the tiny, white antennae cable running from the main board to the bottom. I twisted mine a little bit too much and the connector popped off. I had to go get a new one with much difficulty.
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Daryl_tt said:
Good luck. Careful with the tiny, white antennae cable running from the main board to the bottom. I twisted mine a little bit too much and the connector popped off. I had to go get a new one with much difficulty.
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I replaced the screen - had it working for two days and dropped it again - cracked screen, doesn't even light up.
I now have another replacement screen and a better case - at least now I'm getting quicker at taking the phone apart....
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canuck82 said:
I just ordered this: I will see how that goes. I got tired of using my old SG1 so it's time to fix the V...
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Hi this wont work, I went through the exact same issue, and its impossible to attach the new screen properly. your best bet is to try and find a second hand screen via ebay. it has to have the "housing part with it. otherwise you are wasting your time. it cost me so much to fix mine as I ordered two screens in the end I could have bought a new phone on special....
Try Ebay, and make sure you see the one with the screen and front housing on, I am unable to port the correct link on here as I haven't made 10 posts yet.
Search for the following on ebay : Genuine Sony Ericsson Xperia V LT25i front+digitizer touch screen+LCD display
This should let you find the correct screen
Look at the picture you will see the side housing for the front is also installed, the one you have ordered is the incorrect one as its only the LCD and the Digitzer, without the front housing that it gets "glued" onto. You can see the main difference where the earpiece is its shown as black, hence the mesh is there. that would be the correct one to order. Unless you have the means of getting yours glued back on the same way as the factory, I see you will struggle to get it done otherwise.
Haven't found this anywhere else, so posting.
There is dust under my screen. I don't know how it got there, but I know it hasn't always been there, and I know it's not a dead pixel, because its clearly grey, even when the screen is off. Should I get a replacement? I'm reluctant to be without the phone for almost a week. Any suggestions for removal? I don't want to damage the phone any more.
This is very odd, and I expected better of a Motorola device. I wonder if the screen is glued on, or if there is a layer between the screen and the body of the phone.
Thanks,
Shwise
shwise said:
Haven't found this anywhere else, so posting.
There is dust under my screen. I don't know how it got there, but I know it hasn't always been there, and I know it's not a dead pixel, because its clearly grey, even when the screen is off. Should I get a replacement? I'm reluctant to be without the phone for almost a week. Any suggestions for removal? I don't want to damage the phone any more.
This is very odd, and I expected better of a Motorola device. I wonder if the screen is glued on, or if there is a layer between the screen and the body of the phone.
Thanks,
Shwise
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From ifixit:
"The digitizer is fused to the display, increasing repair costs for a cracked screen, but it is easy to get to the bare display assembly."
shwise said:
Haven't found this anywhere else, so posting.
There is dust under my screen. I don't know how it got there, but I know it hasn't always been there, and I know it's not a dead pixel, because its clearly grey, even when the screen is off. Should I get a replacement? I'm reluctant to be without the phone for almost a week. Any suggestions for removal? I don't want to damage the phone any more.
This is very odd, and I expected better of a Motorola device. I wonder if the screen is glued on, or if there is a layer between the screen and the body of the phone.
Thanks,
Shwise
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Its an samoled display, which is distinct from a regular amoled display in that the digitizer is GLUED to the actual display. What you are describing does not sound possible.