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I love games, and i was disappointed when quake 1 and 2 and duke nukem didnt work on the recent wm6.1 roms. I may have to revert back to Dutty's April 29th rom.
I didnt bother trying any other games, i was too disapointed, lol.
basically what happens is I launch my game or program and it exits itself and gives me one of those errors when i can send the report to microsoft.
just expanded to the quoted list, it would help me and other people in the decision to stick with wm6.1 or just stay at a previous rom
not compatible with wm6.1
PocketQuake
PocketQuake2
spvDukeNukem
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lol this didnt exactly make it as far as i hoped..
im pretty sure there is more that isnt compatible with WM6.1 than just a few games. Ok ill add another thing to the list, i know that Assisted GPS isnt compatible, making all GPS non-compatible, so you must disable it in KaiserTweak or AdvancedConfig.
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PocketQuake
PocketQuake2
spvDukeNukem
AssistedGPS (And every GPS program if A-GPS is activated)
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Quote: AssistedGPS (And every GPS program if A-GPS is activated)
No problems here with gps. Used tomtom today and worked fine.
really? what rom are you using? and your sure A-GPS is activated? about how long does it take to connect to GPS?
mikeeey said:
really? what rom are you using? and your sure A-GPS is activated? about how long does it take to connect to GPS?
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Oops didnt read it properly. Thought he said all GPS programs like tomtom. Sorry
Btw. Can delete both posts.
wim26 said:
Oops didnt read it properly. Thought he said all GPS programs like tomtom. Sorry
Btw. Can delete both posts.
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cant delete posts lol.
Ow I thought moderators could. i'm going to sit in the corner silently and think about my mistake. Shame on me.
mikeeey said:
I love games, and i was disappointed when quake 1 and 2 and duke nukem didnt work on the recent wm6.1 roms. I may have to revert back to Dutty's April 29th rom.
I didnt bother trying any other games, i was too disapointed, lol.
basically what happens is I launch my game or program and it exits itself and gives me one of those errors when i can send the report to microsoft.
just expanded to the quoted list, it would help me and other people in the decision to stick with wm6.1 or just stay at a previous rom
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spvDukeNukem NOT compatible?
Since when ?
skype
igo 8 with htchome/today
core player in qtv mode
pasole said:
core player in qtv mode
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who care about the hacked qtv mode if directdraw is working now?
I can't seem to get kaiser tweak to load correctly with 6.1, Have no idea why.
cbreze said:
I can't seem to get kaiser tweak to load correctly with 6.1, Have no idea why.
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KaiserTweak works just fine on all 6.1 builds I've tried...
daedric said:
spvDukeNukem NOT compatible?
Since when ?
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since i upgraded to the diamond wm6.1, so i went back to dutty's april 29th rom and it works fine now.
iGo and Eyron Hebrew support both don't work on the OEM HTC 6.1
I've tried both diamond wm6.1 and OEM HTC WM 6.1 update. Some programs just don't like this WM 6.1 for some reason.
iGo and Eyron Hebrew support both don't work. Eyron doesn't even install. iGo needs some special tweaks and HTC home deactivation.
The only version of WM 6.1 that works flawlessly for me is the Dutty's April 29th hybrid ROM.
Well i havn't used windows mobile in about 2 years, and back then it was all about trying to find QVGA compatible apps.
Since i'll be getting my diamond next week, along with a load of other people i'm sure, can anyone recommend some good/must have apps? I'm only interested in VGA apps, not upscaled stuff - unless you reallly think its worth it.
I think if we can build up a list it would help alot of people. If there's alot of repies i'll just keep updating this first post.
EDIT: Also can someone tell me whats the best GPS software? TomTom? iGo? Co-Pilot? And do any of them handle speed cameras and/of traffic?
vga apps
I agree, I am expecting my TD next week also and think this would be a good idea. I have been using Windows mobile for a couple years after being a palm user for 5. I currently have an Orbit 2. I also use Tom Tom which i really like. It really runs good on my Orbit 2, a lot smoother than on Palm versions.
realvga is the best application you can have on a vga screen. granted, it makes more incompatibilities, but it basically makes your screen 4 times bigger in total [2x wider and length]
apart from that, id say teksoftco's fingertouch keyboard which is great, although the diamond one looks great too.
apart from that, id say most stuff i use is multi resolution
Igo it is not compatible with the diamond due to it is sold with a SD card.
Tomtom is compatible with the VGA screen
coreplayer too
Is RealVGA working???
Hello is RealVGA working on the Diamond?
Does the HTC software include all Icons for 192dpi, 128dpi and 96dpi mode?
Diagorn said:
Igo it is not compatible with the diamond due to it is sold with a SD card.
Tomtom is compatible with the VGA screen
coreplayer too
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i have igo8 working on my diamond perfect, theres a few threads here about getting it to work and i believe there is a diamond specific version out there now. its much better than TomTom which lagged and took ages to catch up with where you acctually are! igo8 has so many more useful features too!
Diagorn said:
Igo it is not compatible with the diamond due to it is sold with a SD card.
Tomtom is compatible with the VGA screen
coreplayer too
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iGo IS very compatible with the Diamond and it looks absolutely amazing on the VGA screen. There are a few threads about this in the Diamond section of XDA including one that has very detailed instructions on setting up and tweaking the application. Search for it and you will find just about everything you need there
Almost all QVGA apps adjust themselves to the VGA resoution so you almost never have a problem. Maybe old games could be problematic but it's rare. So you don't have to go around looking for VGA apps.
aydc said:
Almost all QVGA apps adjust themselves to the VGA resoution so you almost never have a problem. Maybe old games could be problematic but it's rare. So you don't have to go around looking for VGA apps.
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are syberia I and II compatible with VGA screen of the diamond
Im searching for VGA alternatives for SongID(shazam) - can anyone help?
Hi everybody, first of all, sorry for my English but I'm french.
I'm going to have my HTC diamond wednesday and I have now an Elfin, I would like to know if my Elfin applications could be installed on the Diamond althought the Touch screen is a QVGA?
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Im searching for VGA alternatives for SongID(shazam) - can anyone help?
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+1
(Screen issues with MUSIC ID in qvga)
+2 - need a propper music id-ing app!
I have SHAZAM musicID in VGA
I'm not sure if it will work for you "sprinters", as I have at&t musicID but the same company <SHAZAM> makes the music ID for all carriers. Mabye it would work. Would you like me to try to export the CAB?
Hi, is it normal that srooling in programs is slower against other devices? For example my brothers Asus P535 has perfect speed, if he moves slider quickly, no problem, no lag, absolutely smooth, bud diamond isnt. Why?
Try doing the tweaks in the tweak thread for a start or if you want flash to another rom ie the TLR rom is pretty fast and tf3d is quite smooth and fast on that rom.
Have a look in the rom section of the forum and see which one sounds good to you.
Yes scrolling in "Programs menu" is reaaally slow ... compared to my previous 200 mhz original Touch it's ten times slower and almost impossible to control it with thumb because it takes a lot of time 'till it scrolls down...
I solved this by creating sub folders in programs menu so I don't need to scroll...
Maybe this is because of VGA display and slow GDI support, but I think this really needs some improvements or tweaks.
Any of existing tweaks I tried don't help - Glyph cache does nothing and Fatfs/Filters cache broke my system so I needed to hard reset... And as I can see this filesystem improvements have no influence on graphics performance...
ROM 1.37.401.3 speeds thinks up little bit, but I think windows GDI performance is still very bad on Diamond...
Is GDI accelerated in other ROM? Or can it be solved with some tweak to original 1.37.401.3 ROM?
Yes the scrolling speed is a real issue, it's laggy and sometimes not responsive.. This is a real pain in my ass because I'm coming from a 1st gen iPhone which had extremely smooth scrolling.
i must be lucky...my scrolling is so fast i wish sometimes to know how to make it slower because i can hardly have time to read the name of the programs before i stop...i usually have to scroll back..
no tweaks applied only bepe's last ROM....the biggest tweak of all
Any chance that HTC can solve this problem? I mean - can´t hardware handle it or just bad software?
Well the newer roms have the newest version of TF3d so maybe you want to try and flash to one of them...im running TLR rom version 2 and its fast and tf3d is smooth as silk although it will still lag but not as much as the stock rom does.
I just hope that HTC will make some ROM with major performance incerase, becou HW is not bad. Like my A701 mio. First uséable ROM came out after a year.
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Well the newer roms have the newest version of TF3d so maybe you want to try and flash to one of them...im running TLR rom version 2 and its fast and tf3d is smooth as silk although it will still lag but not as much as the stock rom does.
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I think we are not talking about TF3D but about basic scrolling in WM - see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiVRouS6HwE and on this video it is not so bad - the more programs you have the slower it is...
When I flash the Bepe's ROM can I then flash back to 1.37.401.3 without losing warranty? Do I need to flash back original SPL before and if so - is it available?
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I just hope that HTC will make some ROM with major performance incerase, becou HW is not bad. Like my A701 mio. First uséable ROM came out after a year.
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You might want to check out someone1234 post in the tweak thread above...hes figured out a way to shorten the lag between scrolling screens...give it a try and see if it helps.
Yes I was refering to basic scrolling in WM, not TF3D.. My TF3D is running very smooth with no noticeable lag.
We must hope that some new ROM will solve this. Anyway, same thing the HTC logo after start or power off. Why it is thare if it is not played smoothly? I know this is becou os phone quick start, but anyway, the should gave a picture there.
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Yes I was refering to basic scrolling in WM, not TF3D.. My TF3D is running very smooth with no noticeable lag.
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i dont tink its a issue htc can resolve -> its a os problem -> so its a ms problem.
Do you? I dont know how WM6.1, but my last device WM 5 had 5 times faster scrooling. Is diamond scrooling speed on other devices from other brands? Some E-ten? Mio? etc? I think this is exactly kind of issu HTC can solve very easily, if they would want.
Can someone with other than official-production ROM tell us, if scrolling and GDI performance is better?
Thanks
Yes I tried TLR ROM and it is not. But some good news, I found articles about same slow speed in other devices after upgrade on WM 6. I found some tweak too, but it helped only bit. I wil continue, if I sort out this problem, i will tell you how.
how did he do this, and why haven't any chefs made a ROM like this?
http://i11.photobucket.com/player.s...otobucket.com/albums/a153/eboy44/MOV02395.flv
umm, whatever that is, it is on this site...
Although I haven't attempted to use it I bet it is ThrottleLauncher by Gullum and his developer friends. Look in the rom section and try it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405897
I wasn't too hot on Throttle Launcher... looks very cool but some of the functionality didn't impress me. Some of the tabs take awhile to load and I couldn't get it too run smoothly. With HTC Home, when you switch tabs it's instantaneous... not that way with Throttle Launcher. It's a pretty slick looking app though.
it's called HTC Touchflo3D aka Manila but it's not supported by the Kaiser yet. It's been ported over but very slow response with speeds up to only 3-5 frames per second. Once the drivers are 100% made for our kaisers it'll be easier to work with this since the diamond and touch pro doesn't have much more processor speeds but they have the drivers to make the UI move swiftly.
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it's called HTC Touchflo3D aka Manila but it's not supported by the Kaiser yet. It's been ported over but very slow response with speeds up to only 3-5 frames per second. Once the drivers are 100% made for our kaisers it'll be easier to work with this since the diamond and touch pro doesn't have much more processor speeds but they have the drivers to make the UI move swiftly.
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That was a Tilt he was using it on. And it seemed to be not laggy at all.
how's manila not lagging? drivers aren't completed yet and the speed is slower than watching a video on edge
dyetheskin said:
how's manila not lagging? drivers aren't completed yet and the speed is slower than watching a video on edge
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he means in the video I posted... the diamond software isn't lagging at all on the kaiser.
Uhhh hummm... that's actually Throttle Launcher as previously stated being used on a tilt.
http://www.throttlelauncher.com/portal/index.php/pruebas/34-public-releases/76-092beta
can't wait and see if manila will be ported over correctly since no alternatives can duplicate exactly what touchflo3d does on the diamond and touch pro
Hy well i started this thread becouse i recently upgraded from an elf to a diamond... and now i'm not so sure i did a good thing... besides the fact that tf3d its better looking its running worse than the old manila 2d, wich was way way smoother on my elf. thing is i had so few ram on the elf i always runed out of memory when using opera mobile...but on diamond with so much ram and cpu speed available i can tell the difference in opera mobile but thats all... becouse the tf3d it's crap (in my opinion)
So i ask here is there any other rom wich i can use who might not have tf3d or maybe some cube like old elf, or maybe some other gui wich looks preaty nice? or maybe a clean rom and use another gui wich works on vga? i did a lot of search and i only found out SPB wich aint free.
ps i have read people saying that they have theyir diamonds at 30-35% memory afther soft reset, well mine its always around 50% and afther one day of using it (normal usage dialing, calling, a bit of teeter and some web browsing) i reach 90% still i did the tweak with opera preload in registry... but its crap i have to reset it all day at least once... how is this posible ? i mean elf had 64 ram and i still could play with 15 ram from the 64, diamond has 192 and i can play with only of them ? so where are the rest? what is using those 160mb of ram ? was elf using other version of windows mobile (as i remember it was 6.1 same like the one on diamond) is tf3d so much memory hungry ?
thanks hope u understand my english and hope someone can enlight me a bit, or direct me to some links where i can read about this (problem) besides the search, cose (i might be dumb) i canot find anithing relevant...
I'm going to take a stab, and say it might be related to your rom (carrier loaded rom especially).
I bought the US 3g unlocked Diamond (no carrier)..and I was happy with it (faster then my old hermes).
I'm now using Dutty's latest rom..and it is very smooth.
Have you tried turning off touchflo, and sticking with the manila 2d UI?
I have the CT's v 6.4 HD Lite ROM which includes TouchFLO 3D and the speed is good. Highly recommended.
As for soft reset, I normally switch off the phone at the end of the day. That is same as soft reset and I switch it back on next morning, I think.
well as far as i know manila 2d ui aint for VGA... or at least i couldn't find anything to work on 600x480...
TF2D for VGA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
I agree with you, TF3D is absolute crap. The speed doesn't bother me so much, it's just the memory that is used up for no good purpose, given that TF3D has no genuine benefit whatsoever. I can't think of a single feature that works properly or usefully, compared to ordinary WM apps and today plugins.
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I think the Diamond's a great little phone - attractive and good pocket size - and the battery life isn't too much of a problem. However, given how slow the Diamond is at graphics and file system operations, it doesn't need to be burdened by a white elephant like TF3D.
SPB Mobile Shell is very popular but I went the tradional route of using SPB Pocket Plus with Phone Suite and some other plugins. DevState 1.5 works great as a Today screen task manager.