GPS fails to initiate ... help. - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

i cannot get the GPS to start working again in the GPS photo. it says the GPS failed to initiate.
anyone had this problem before?
any fix ?
QuickGPS is not updating correctly as well.
thanks.
eric

LOL, just posted my fix in another thread. Try this... Run Windows Live or Google Maps, keep it running then switch to your camera. Go to the gps photo section and it should now initialize within seconds. Take your picture then upload it to GPS Visualizer, seems to be very accurate!

still says cannot initialize the GPS service

Have you been fiddling with the settings in the External GPS control panel applet? It's known that changing them, even if changing them back, kills your GPS. Only a hard reset seems to fix it.

FloatingFatMan said:
Have you been fiddling with the settings in the External GPS control panel applet? It's known that changing them, even if changing them back, kills your GPS. Only a hard reset seems to fix it.
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yes i have, damn.

FloatingFatMan said:
Have you been fiddling with the settings in the External GPS control panel applet? It's known that changing them, even if changing them back, kills your GPS. Only a hard reset seems to fix it.
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Bs.
A soft-reset does the trick

I can't get the GPS to work with ANY program. I have NOT messed with the external GPS settings because I read in more than one place that it can mess things up.
It worked the first day I got my phone (initiated with QuickGPS then tested working with Google Maps) but hasn't worked since then. Not a single program I have tried will work with GPS. QuickGPS seems to download (it reaches 100%) but then errors out.
Any suggestions?
.:Christian:.

The best way to get gps activated is by GPS Viewer. You can find it on Google. It is freeware (as far as I can remember). It has been discussed in this forum several times. Set gps (through GPS viewer) to be at COM4 and 4800 baud rate. Then turn on Google maps or Tom Tom or any other GPS using program and wait for up to a minute. Usually it takes less. Once it connects, it works like a charm. The gps part of the phone is excellent. It picks up from within the car, even within the house.

Yeah, I tried that. It never showed anything. No satellites, nothing. The other thing is that I have to soft reset once I try to use the GPS because it slows down my phone so bad.
.:Christian:.

Sherpa posted GPSInit on this forum, it is a very basic app that connects to Com4 at 4800 baud, nothing more. Try that, it should start the GPS. The minimize ( not exit, that closes the GPS) and run the software you want tom use the GPS. If that does not work, your unit may be faulty and you can try a hard-reset.

I tried GPSInit. It said it opened COM4 OK. After that I tried 3 different programs - Google Maps, Map4PDA and Pocket Streets. None of them showed any satellites or any GPS information.
I guess I can try a hard reset if that is my only other option. I have soft reset this thing so many times, I doubt it is going to work again w/o hard reset.
.:Christian:.
P.S. The thing is, I don't know what I did wrong. I did not go into the external GPS settings at all. I guess I can try that, seeing as how it can't hurt me anymore. I just don't want to go through this again every time I want to use the GPS.

After you initiate the GPS with GPSinit, does the red led start blinking on the right of the speaker? If not, your GPS is not working. If it does, do not exit or close GPSInit, since that will close the GPS. Just minimalize it and start another GPS using software, like GPSViewer. Go outside first, and wait a few minutes. The GPS should then get a fix. Then fire up Google Maps and see if it works. Google Maps has a GPS time-out that is too short, meaning you must have a fix with GPS Viewer before starting Google, or the app will time out before a fix is acquired.

I think Koksie means Orange light not Red
Mike

mikechannon said:
I think Koksie means Orange light not Red
Mike
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Correct, sorry.

Koksie said:
After you initiate the GPS with GPSinit, does the red led start blinking on the right of the speaker? If not, your GPS is not working. If it does, do not exit or close GPSInit, since that will close the GPS. Just minimalize it and start another GPS using software, like GPSViewer. Go outside first, and wait a few minutes. The GPS should then get a fix. Then fire up Google Maps and see if it works. Google Maps has a GPS time-out that is too short, meaning you must have a fix with GPS Viewer before starting Google, or the app will time out before a fix is acquired.
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Yes, the orange light starts blinking whenever I use an app that uses GPS. Thing is, it never acquires a signal. I have waited up to 10 minutes, sometimes longer.
Another interesting fact - before, whenever I would use a GPS app, the light would never stop blinking when I exited the app, like it wasn't releasing the GPS or something. Ever since I went into the External GPS app, at least now the light stops blinking whenever I exit a GPS app, restoring my phone to a usable condition. Before, the light would always be blinking and my phone would be very, very slow.
You didn't answer my question about what hardware port the GPS should be on. I know the s/w port is COM4.
Thanks,
.:Christian:.

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GPS?

It doesn't work with any application. Do i have to turn on the internal gps somehow?
Please help me.
phelixx1 said:
It doesn't work with any application. Do i have to turn on the internal gps somehow?
Please help me.
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What applications did you try?
When you start the application does the right side LED blink orange?
Nav4all, tomtom, google, and yes it blinks orange.
Same problem here...I did run quickgps and downloaded the recent update...still nothing
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Nav4all, tomtom, google, and yes it blinks orange.
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azop said:
Same problem here...I did run quickgps and downloaded the recent update...still nothing
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Go to this page and see the link for external mirror 1. use it to download GPS TEST:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/progDownload/GPS-Test-Download-34335.html
or get it here:
http://classic.pocketgear.com/softw...ssociateid=1224
When you have installed it, run it and it will auto scan the ports to find the GPS receiver. Make note of the port number - that's the one you'll need for your other applications (like tomtom etc). Make sure you have a clear view of the sky when running it and give it PLENTY time to achieve a first time fix.
By the way if you have ever used the "External GPS" on the Kaiser then you may have altered some settings that can stop GPS working. Unfortunately only a hard reset will cure this. BUT, try the above first. If GPS test can get satellites then so will other applications.
This little application GPS Test is also useful to run before things like Google Maps that some folks have problems with.
Mike
mikechannon said:
Go to this page and see the link for external mirror 1. use it to download GPS TEST:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/progDownload/GPS-Test-Download-34335.html
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Mike, this is a great program, thanks.
and if it finds stuff but the other programs still don't work?
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and if it finds stuff but the other programs still don't work?
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Ok. If GPS test works and finds sats then, you have an incorrect port set on the other applications. From GPS Test see what port it has found the GPS on. Then in tomtom say, use "other nmea device" or "internal GPS" whichever option it has in the "configure" menu and set the port to the one noted from GPS test.
Fact is that if GPS test finds sats then everything is working and its just getting the link between the GPS and the nav software that needs fixing.
Mike
I just had to leave my house and try it on the road. Now it works everywhere. YEAH!!!!!!!!!
THANKS GUYS (mikechannon) !!!!!!!!!!
this works, but why do we need to run gps test before any gsp app? is there not a reg key that will be able to fix it?
Frontline said:
this works, but why do we need to run gps test before any gsp app? is there not a reg key that will be able to fix it?
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I used to have the same exact problem...Google Maps just gives up if it doesn't find a fix right away. TomTom does finally get a lock without GPS Test, but it takes less time if you have GPS Test running beforehand.
I had the same problem .. GPS would not work with Google, MSN live. Downloaded GPS test and still nothing. I finally did a "hard" reset (painful, but I did have everything backed up on my PC with Active Sync).
After the hard reset GPS worked GREAT! I must have messed up a setting trying to get it to work. GPS test now reports that the GPS is active on COM4, 9600 baud.
Frontline said:
this works, but why do we need to run gps test before any gsp app? is there not a reg key that will be able to fix it?
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You don't have to run it before every GPS application. Some folks find Google Maps benefits from doing this but I only suggested running the GPS test app to establish which port was being used. Even with Google maps you may find on subsequent occasions you do not need to run an app like GPS Test first.
Mike
accuracy
does anyone else have the problem where tom tom doesn't show the correct position it always thinks i am about 20 - 50 meters to the left of my real position.
I seem to be on fields an awful lot or 2 - 3 street over in city centres.
very bizaar
boultz said:
does anyone else have the problem where tom tom doesn't show the correct position it always thinks i am about 20 - 50 meters to the left of my real position.
I seem to be on fields an awful lot or 2 - 3 street over in city centres.
very bizaar
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I don't have that problem - even when I have few fixed satellites. However I did read a report recently where someone routinely had the arrow showing 200mtrs away from his position. Sorry to say it was only after a Hard Reset that the problem vanished.
As a side issue. I have noticed with tomtom and any other GPS software -
If you start the GPS software in an area with no or poor GPS signal, then it will take FAR longer to get a fix EVEN when you go into a clear sky area.. If however when you start the GPS software in a good open sky area then it will fix much more quickly.
The moral of this story - don't start the GPS when you are inside a thick walled building - wait until you get outside first. I'mguessing that starting in an area with a very weak signal sends it searching in all the wrong areas for satellites and it will then take a long time to find them even when you get outside. (This is true, I have noticed with all GPS systems I've used not just the Kaiser.
Mike
FYI, I have found that Map4PDA breaks the GPS. I believe it changes the baud rate to 57600, which is incorrect (it should be 9600). The only way to fix it I have found is to Hard reset and not install Map4PDA.
TomTom, Micrsoft Live Search (with Speach), & Google Maps work great. Features set in that order.
PS that GPS test tool works GREAT. Thanks for the heads up.

GPS don't work

heelp... what should I do...
Couple days ago TomTom trial and Google Map found gps device nicely and everything seems to be ok. However now when I am trying to start these sw:s they both are saying that they can't find gps device. What should I do about this?
When you start the apps, does the orange light on the right of the internal speaker start flashing?
If it does, then the GPS is actually starting but not getting a fix probably.
If it doesn't then have you mucked around with your "external gps settings" which should be left set to com4 and 4800
Or try this: http://www.expansys.nl/ft.aspx?k=100176
Thx for your answers...
when I tried start tomtom it will find gps-receiver & satellites and if immediatly after that I start Google Map sw it find gps also...
It seems that this happens because of delaying to find satellites... and timelimit at GM is too short... any way solve that problem because it is stupid that I have to start every time tomtom first
which GM version are you using? maybe you should try to download the latest version. The version 1.2.0.18 seems to take a longer time before it times out.
I've downloaded version 1.2.0.18 from the webpage http://www.google.com/gmm/index.html.
what version you suggested? And if that is different, where I could get it?
Or is it possible to use some light software first lock satellites and then start GM? if this is possible what "locking sw:s" you suggest?
Its a well known problem that Google Maps times out before getting a fix on a "cold start" of the GPS.
I am guessing that if enough people let them know, they will either work out how to get it to respond quicker or to increase the time out.
I've downloaded sw called TGPS which I use locked satellites... Now it seems that this is working well...
thx anyway to all.
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Its a well known problem that Google Maps times out before getting a fix on a "cold start" of the GPS.
I am guessing that if enough people let them know, they will either work out how to get it to respond quicker or to increase the time out.
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I had to return my phone for warranty repair but I think the latest version of GMM fixes the timeout problem. Last night I downloaded it to a friend's new ATT Tilt. The GPS took about 1.5min to get a fix and GMM didn't show any errors.
Where I can get this TPGS software???
Sorry not mentioned that before...
http://www.turboirc.com/ppc/
Thanks for the info
I downloaded the software, seems working but google maps is not working at all. What tricks have you done to make google maps work???
Zero, nada....
Just first locking gps with TGPS and then (TGPS background) I start GM... that's it.
btw. in the GM I am using automatic configuration for GPS.
If you setup everything correctly, sometimes its the location where you are at. Whenever I'm in my car, it always works. When I'm in a building, chances are, it doesn't work, even by a window.
So don't think its the phone. Test it outside first and then see if it really is the phone.
There is no need to download additional software to kickstart the Kaiser gps. Open the Camera app and switch to GPS Photo mode. Wait for a fix and then exit and start up Google Maps.
I tested the GPS outside and works fine with TOMTOM and TPGS but still google maps give me errors. When I start TPGS The software gets a signal really fast.
But when I switch to google maps I got ( Error: ConnectError [183]) and I still running TPGS in the background...
I'm using google maps version: 1.2.0.17
And another thing: This GPS photo where I can get it?? Because I think I dont have it.... my kaiser I bought it in Denmark...
Thanks for the help you people rock....
GPS Photo is enabled by a registry change -- use your favorite registry editor to set HKLM\Software\HTC\Camera\P9\Enable to the DWORD value 1. It'll then show up as a camera mode when you click the left/right arrows in the upper left corner of the camera display.
Thanks waygeek it worked....
Lets see if this google maps thing works with GPS photo
By the way I want to check out the version of google maps that you guys have??
I'm using google maps version: 1.2.0.17
Once again thank you all...
No luck with GPS photo our TGPS with Google maps.
The GPS is working perfectly
thomassster : You said that when you drive in your car Google maps works..
Do you use GPRS or 3G to connect to google maps and after that you use the GPS??? or you just use the GPS??
Because What I been experienced is if I'm outside then I use my GPRS connection then the GPS and google maps tell me Where I'm.. But If I dont use any connection and switch to the GPS, google maps die...
Thanks for the help

Still can't GPS to work... can anyone help?

I've just got the Vario III new from T-Mobile UK, and I just can't the GPS get to receive any signals. I guess there is no "in box" way of testing the GPS, so I downloaded MS Live Search, and in there the "Centre on GPS". Previously, I set the hardware to COM0, 4800 Baud, autostart GPS by appilcation. In Live Search, I equally set it to COM0.
When is press the "centra on GPS", the righ hand side orange LED starts blinking, and the message inside Live Search is something like "retrieving GPS datat", but that's it. Nothing more happens.
I've also tried it with TomTom, but no result here either, other than the message "invalid GPS data".
I've called T-Mobile support to find out if there's anything on their side that needs doing, but apparently not.
So, I'm pretty stuck. Does anyone have an idea what I could try? Thanks!
First off, never ever go into the External GPS settings in the control panel. The general consensus around here is that it almost always requires a hard reset after messing with that. If you did, make sure it's set to COM4, 4800 baud.
Make sure your apps are set to COM4, 4800 baud. If that fails, a hard reset may be in order.
Why did you set it to COM0? Did someone tell you to do that?
I set it to to COM0 just to try SOMETHING.
I guess a hard reset is in order
So I just leave the GPS settings be and don't even touch them, yes?
Ok, so I've just done a hard reset.
The one and only thing I've done is install Live Search.
In the prefs of it, COM4 was automatically selected.
Hit "centre on GPS", with absolutely no reaction other than "Getting GPS position".
Any further thoughts? Hardware fault? Software issue?
The signal from GPS satellites is very low powered. ANY obstructions to the sky can cause a failure. My handheld Garmin GPSs and my Tilt will not get a lock in the house. Outside; buildings, trees, land masses and clouds all prevent a good lock. From my experiences with the Tilt, I have to get out into the open and wait 5-10 minutes or more for a lock.
Download the new google mobile maps and try that. It seems to get a fix quickly and doesnt time out as quickly as the older version (and some other gps enabled apps).
Cool, I got it to work. I left the device outside on the balcony for 10 minutes, and Live Search did lock in on me.
I now downloaded Google Mobile Maps, but couldn't locate a GPS function (I downloaded it from their website). Am I blind?
The thing that worked for me was to install GPS Viewer (freeware, you can Google it) and then open GPS from there. It takes about a minute to connect but then it stays on and interfaces with Tomtom very well. Prior to running it, please also download and run QuickGPS (it comes as loaded software with Kaiser, you may have to download it also as freeware, helps keep the connection steady; it is advised to download QuickGPS once a week, this is as long as its effect lasts, don't know why). The combination of QuickGPS and GPSViewer works very well.
naujoks said:
I now downloaded Google Mobile Maps, but couldn't locate a GPS function (I downloaded it from their website). Am I blind?
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Menu | Track Location
Hmm no, I dont have that menu item. Maybe I got an older version of it after all?
It's "Menu | Show My Location" on mine.
BTW, I saw a trick on another thread which worked very well for me. Enable the GPS Photo option (by using Kaiser Tweak or tweaking the registry) and open that first. It seems to get a fix very quickly. Once it's got one, you can close it and open any other GPS program like google maps and it tracks instantly. I also have QuickGPS installed and updated so that probably helps too.
After hard resetting twice, I have never run the QuickGPS program and I get a fix every time in less than a minute, even inside my house (by a window).
One program I highly recommend never using until it is updated is Map4PDA. It killed my GPS, requiring a hard reset.
Download GPS Test, run and confirm signal strength by satellite. That should solve your issue or at least answer the question of functionality.

GPS Not functioning

I screwed my Kaiser gps by trying to use map4pda which automatically changed the port in settings for gps. What can I do? Gps not working anymore,even after putting back the old settings and doing softresets,even took out the battery for a while
Not a single program can find my inbuilt gps now
I do not want to do a hard reset,I have tooo many progs and no backup
Please help
I am afraid to use any other gps program(even after a hard reset) because this could ruin my gps settings
I read somewhere that gps applet is misconfigured(from factory)..and even a slight modification to it,could lead to my gps not functioning till a hard-reset.
Also it's not normal that a program can modify the gps'settings by itself
I have bad news for you, but at least it confirms that Map4PDA is a bad program. I used to love the program. It worked awesome on my 8525. You can have it use MSN, Yahoo or Google Maps.
I installed it on my Tilt and at first I didn't realize that it was the culprit. Then I hard reset and installed only that program and a few others to test GPS. Once I ran Map4PDA, GPS no workie. Hard reset again.
I have not run it since my last hard reset and my GPS still works perfect....and I have used many, many different GPS programs.
So with all that said, I'm afraid a hard reset is your only option. I am not the only one that got bit by this. I posted in another thread here and a few others had the same results as me.
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I have bad news for you, but at least it confirms that Map4PDA is a bad program. I used to love the program. It worked awesome on my 8525. You can have it use MSN, Yahoo or Google Maps.
I installed it on my Tilt and at first I didn't realize that it was the culprit. Then I hard reset and installed only that program and a few others to test GPS. Once I ran Map4PDA, GPS no workie. Hard reset again.
I have not run it since my last hard reset and my GPS still works perfect....and I have used many, many different GPS programs.
So with all that said, I'm afraid a hard reset is your only option. I am not the only one that got bit by this. I posted in another thread here and a few others had the same results as me.
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Thank you for the info..
Are you sure this is the only gps program that messes up the gps?
Did you test Igo,GpsTuner,GpsGate,Pathaway professional,GeoScout??
But Gloposis,BeeLine gps??
Any other incompatibilities?
Thx
I haven't tested all of those. Here's what I have on my phone right now:
FFF (finger friendly friends)
Google Maps
Live Search
GPS test
GPS Utilities
GPS viewer
GPSinfo
Navigator II
TomTom 6
TrackMe
Virtual Earth
VisualGPSce
I think the other ones will be safe. Map4PDA is the only one I've heard of that kills the Kaiser GPS.
A hard reset is your only option and shouldnt be a nightmare.
Work out what apps you want, check you have the cabs etc, sync your device with your pc and away you go.
I keep all my favourite apps cabs on my storage card so that I could hard reset even if away from my laptop (but I do have an exchange server so setting up sync remotely is also easy).
Reinstalling 60 applications IS very time-consuming,let alone the time to configure them and the OS just the way I like them.
But giving that I do not have any other chance,I'll do it
My only concern is that I'll install other application which will kill again my gps and I have to take all from the beggining. I come from an Eten X500 and this was never happened to me.There , NO application could change some system settings..
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Reinstalling 60 applications IS very time-consuming,let alone the time to configure them and the OS just the way I like them.
But giving that I do not have any other chance,I'll do it
My only concern is that I'll install other application which will kill again my gps and I have to take all from the beggining. I come from an Eten X500 and this was never happened to me.There , NO application could change some system settings..
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I too noticed that using different GPS software tends to screw up something on my Tilt. I've used Google Maps and MS Live Search and these tend to screw things up to the point that the GPS is useless. I also have Copilot Live 7 installed and this program has the ability to reset the GPS on my device.
For those not familiar with Copilot, when you go to the Settings panel in Copilot and choose Reset GPS, it asks you to enter a city within 100 miles of your current location in order to reset your GPS properly. If someone could develop an app to replicate this... This would be a great standalone app for all Tilt & variant owners.
But if the gps is already dead,how will Copilot know which city is in 100 miles radius ??it cannot tell the current location,beacuse it cannot get a fix from sattelites...so one cannot do a reset to the gps..
what about a backup? make a backup before you install an app that you don't know if it works or not, install/run app, if all is good, no worries. if all is bad, restore from backup.
the Tilt ROM comes with sprite backup and htc backup is flating around this forum...
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But if the gps is already dead,how will Copilot know which city is in 100 miles radius ??it cannot tell the current location,beacuse it cannot get a fix from sattelites...so one cannot do a reset to the gps..
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Not sure how this works, but I've been able to get my GPS working again every time with this feature.
If entering a location with Copilot fixes your GPS, then it wasnt broken to begin with. Just because Google Maps cant get a fix, doesnt mean that your GPS isnt working (all it means is that you need to download the new google maps which is a lot better).
One needs to think about such problems logically. When you open a GPS enabled APP and try to get a fix, does the orange GPS light flash on the device. If it does, then your gps is working with your device. If it then fails to get a fix it is because it cannot see the satellites. Make sure you are giving it a clean line of sight to the sky (ideally to the south if you live in UK).
If the orange light doesn't come on then your com port settings are wrong and its hard reset time.
Oh and if your GPS is working but seems to take a long time to get a fix, then use QUICKGPS to give it a prod.
In the external GPS settings programs tab set to 4800, in the hardware tab gps hardware port select none, baud rate should be at 4800. In te access tab tick manage gps automatically.
Load the TomTom app that comes with the Kaiser or download it from here. go to config on the gps settings within TomTom and it will right itself
Make a backup of the registry and put is back in this situations, easy and fast when you try different programs.
Btw Igo works fine also Nusa maps (Indonesia), Map King pro and Papa Go..
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If entering a location with Copilot fixes your GPS, then it wasnt broken to begin with. Just because Google Maps cant get a fix, doesnt mean that your GPS isnt working (all it means is that you need to download the new google maps which is a lot better).
One needs to think about such problems logically. When you open a GPS enabled APP and try to get a fix, does the orange GPS light flash on the device. If it does, then your gps is working with your device. If it then fails to get a fix it is because it cannot see the satellites. Make sure you are giving it a clean line of sight to the sky (ideally to the south if you live in UK).
If the orange light doesn't come on then your com port settings are wrong and its hard reset time.
Oh and if your GPS is working but seems to take a long time to get a fix, then use QUICKGPS to give it a prod.
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That's not true in every circumstance. Like the OP, I installed Map4PDA. When you run the program, it searches for the GPS (you can't specify what COM port to use manually) and in my case, hangs on COM3 for whatever reason. I let it sit for over an hour and ended up doing a soft reset because the program was unresponsive.
After that, my GPS would not work in ANY program that it worked in previously. I checked and double-checked my settings to no avail. I posted here and on MoDaCo and got some good advice but in the end, only a hard reset fixed it. Yes, the GPS light would blink but my Tilt would run very, very slowly and would never get a fix. That QuickGPS program would error out every time I ran it. I don't know what Map4PDA did, but it hosed my GPS and it looks like the OP got bit too.
Since my last hard reset, I have installed tons of GPS enabled programs and they all work just fine. I also have never run QuickGPS and I can get a fix within 10 seconds in any program.
I know it's not logical, but that is what worked for me.
EDIT: I don't advocate the spreading of paid for s/w, but I would be curious to see if your CoPilot program would successfully reset the OP's GPS.
If a gps program asks for manual configuration of hardware gps port and the baudrate,what should I input? Like Igo for ex....or GpsTuner...
emariu said:
If a gps program asks for manual configuration of hardware gps port and the baudrate,what should I input? Like Igo for ex....or GpsTuner...
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COM4, 4800 baud
this com 4 is a program port,it's not the harware gps (native) port..
can we find out which port number is the default(hardware)?
But thnks anyway for the answers
COM4 is what works. Yes, technically, it's a soft port, but it has worked with every GPS enabled program I've tried (except for Map4PDA but that is another story).
The neato thing about that is that it allows more than one program to access the GPS at the same time. If you go directly to the hardware, you lose that functionality.
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COM4 is what works. Yes, technically, it's a soft port, but it has worked with every GPS enabled program I've tried (except for Map4PDA but that is another story).
The neato thing about that is that it allows more than one program to access the GPS at the same time. If you go directly to the hardware, you lose that functionality.
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I use GpsGate anyway,so using multiple gps programs at once isn't a problem for me,BUT because I cannot use hardware port, we are stucked with 4800 baudrate,which is a limitation only with soft multiplexer(built in the OS)

Kaiser GPS Problem

Hello
I have a problem with GPS.
In the External GPS Settings, it does not assume the value for hardware port.
Who can help me?
Tanks
brunobranco said:
Hello
I have a problem with GPS.
In the External GPS Settings, it does not assume the value for hardware port.
Who can help me?
Tanks
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Are you trying to use an External GPS device?
If you are using the built in GPS then you do not need or want to make any changes to the External GPS settings.
If you change settings in External GPS settings it can really mess things up, meaning you either need to hard reset or use a fix that is floating around the forum somewhere.
Mike
I'm using built-in GPS, but in the configuration ports, tab Settings->External GPS, i change the port (ex.COM1,COM4,...) and the system not assume any. Then TomTom not have any GPS signal...
Do you know what the word EXTERNAL means?
If you're using the INTERNAL gps receiver then you wouldn't want to set anything in the EXTERNAL settings..
YAAA MEEEEEEAN?
ChumleyEX said:
Do you know what the word EXTERNAL means?
If you're using the INTERNAL gps receiver then you wouldn't want to set anything in the EXTERNAL settings..
YAAA MEEEEEEAN?
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haha~~
he is freshman,you have to konw this.
Okay, then I will put the issue by the other side. Since we have so many intelligent people ... I have TomTom 6 and 7 and not in both the GPS signal. How to set the COM Port to get that sign? Thank you.
Try to choose "(None)" in GPS hardware port, 4800, and COM4 in program port, with the tick on in Manage GPS automatically. That's how it is by default. If it doesn't work, then like mikechannon said you might need to hard reset. One should NOT fiddle in the External GPS settings if not really needed (to access an EXTERNAL GPS), as it sometimes makes you lose the ability to use the internal one at all without resetting everything to defaults.
Or, as he said there might be a fix, but you'll have to search the forum for it.
Another thing to try is another program, like google earth.
The best thing to do (after doing what the above poster suggested) is find a program called GPSviewer. It's no maps, just gps satellites. Install that (via your pc) and then go outside, allow a few minutes (In some cases 10-15 minutes the first time) for it to find the satellites in orbit.
External GPS is for a bluetooth (etc) gps receiver.
ChumleyEX said:
External GPS is for a bluetooth (etc) gps receiver.
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Just to be clear here, I've never touched "External GPS" and I happily use a Bluetooth GPS. You just set it up in the bluetooth application and assign it a com port.
Don't want people with Bluetooth GPSes mucking around in the "External GPS" application for no reason.
Indeed, you can use a BT GPS without touching it. You'll need to if you want to share the BT GPS between several programs simultaneously though.
Try This:
In tomtom choose other nmea gps , com 4: , 57600 baud
Works like a charm, give it some time to get a proper fix (this sometimes takes a minute after a cold boot/reset)
jrdijkstra said:
Try This:
In tomtom choose other nmea gps , com 4: , 57600 baud
Works like a charm, give it some time to get a proper fix (this sometimes takes a minute after a cold boot/reset)
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I wish I could get a GPS connection in TomTom7, nothing I do works. It works everywhere else, so.. Ah well.
khaytsus said:
I wish I could get a GPS connection in TomTom7, nothing I do works. It works everywhere else, so.. Ah well.
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If I understand you correctly, all other applications detect the GPS signal but not TT7?
kavi said:
If I understand you correctly, all other applications detect the GPS signal but not TT7?
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Google Earth, Microsoft Live, PathAway, several geocaching programs, GPSTest, iGO, etc.. Are all fine with the internal GPS.
TomTom 7 won't see the GPS. It never finds it. Both "built in" and NMEA on various baud rates. Internal is at the default com4 port, haven't messed with "external" settings, etc... I dunno what the deal is.
khaytsus said:
Google Earth, Microsoft Live, PathAway, several geocaching programs, GPSTest, iGO, etc.. Are all fine with the internal GPS.
TomTom 7 won't see the GPS. It never finds it. Both "built in" and NMEA on various baud rates. Internal is at the default com4 port, haven't messed with "external" settings, etc... I dunno what the deal is.
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What TT version are you running?
You can try deleting the navigator.cfg file on */Navigator and starting TT again
do you have leds turned off? if so, try turning them back on. i had the exact same problem until i turned my leds back on.
ycavan said:
do you have leds turned off? if so, try turning them back on. i had the exact same problem until i turned my leds back on.
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It could be that, as my LEDs are hosed, but I have no idea how to fix them. I have a separate thread on that. I have no LED or vibration once booted. It vibrates and flashes the green led once when I do a soft reset, but *nothing* after. I tried lots of things, including disabling everything in Startup using MemMaid and restarting, but still no notifications.
I figure I'll have to hard reset and re-install stuff to fix it. I've tried NueLED and a bunch of other things.
Pretty stupid, but it almost sounds like TomTom is watching the registry for the GPS led to start blinking.. Makes me wonder if using something like KaiserNotify to disable or change the LEDs around would also hose TomTom. What's wrong with "listen for nmea strings on com". Sheesh.

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