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Sorry... Another GPS / Google Maps Question

I've read so many posts, you'd think I could get this to work.
I've run the QuickGPS that comes w/ my AT&T Tilt. It shows a download time and that it's valid for a little over 6 days from now.
When I run Google Maps, and try Track Location, I get the standard error message that says my GPS receiver is not responding.
Anyone have any thoughts/pointers?
thx
Robert

did you go into settings and change the GPS settings?

Wait. I just found another thread that says I need to run something besides QuickGPS to get Google Maps to work.
I'm confused. I need to run (i) QuickGPS, (ii) another application (such as GPS Test or GPS Viewer), AND (iii) google maps?
Or, do I just need to run (ii) and (III)?
thx
Robert

McHale said:
did you go into settings and change the GPS settings?
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Yes. ONe of the first things I did.
Com 4, 4800 baud.
R

rmcalhany said:
Wait. I just found another thread that says I need to run something besides QuickGPS to get Google Maps to work.
I'm confused. I need to run (i) QuickGPS, (ii) another application (such as GPS Test or GPS Viewer), AND (iii) google maps?
Or, do I just need to run (ii) and (III)?
thx
Robert
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In theory, it should work with only (i) and (iii). However, in practice, it seems people (including me) only have success if you do (i), (ii), and (iii).
E.g. Run something like Windows Live, get the Satellite fix, then run Google Maps. I know its cumbersome, but it seems that Google Maps' tolerance for waiting for a sat signal is too short. And since all other progs work with the GPS without such actions, I'd say its a Google Maps issue, not a Kaiser one.

I have never had a problem?
I feel like i am missing something...I have Tom Tom, and google maps, and have never done anything except run them? Works flawlessly for me, are you guys running htc rom?

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Yes. ONe of the first things I did.
Com 4, 4800 baud.
R
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I've seen elsewhere that some people that have changed their GPS settings on the Kaiser/Tilt have needed to hard-reset to get the GPS to work again.
So, I would suggest doing a hard-reset and be sure to just not touch any GPS settings following that.
You DON'T need to run any other 3rd party apps to enable your GPS or anything of that sort. Just install Google Maps and go outside to test it. It could take up to a minute to get a signal. It's also possible you might get the error you previously mentioned, the first time you open Google Maps. Just click "retry", and that should do it.
Give that a shot and report back.

I used TomTom last night (I downloaded the free Chicago map but don't live anywhere near Chicago) and it truly is a slick app.
BUT
I use Windows Live all the time with it and am very very impressed how it works. I don't have the Google app loaded so can't comment on it specifically.
But I was having issues with QuickGPS and had to hard reset to fix it.
-Mc

It all depends on your location and how quick your unit finds the satellites. GOogle Maps has a very short timeout allowance. So, yes, sometimes, retrying over and over will work. Sometimes not. Running another program that has a higher timeout tolerance helps in those situations. E.g. I was in Portland this week and with the heavy cloud cover and rain, it took about 2.5 min for it to get a fix. Thus Google kept timing out. So, I switched to Live which waited and waited and waited, and then when it had the fix, worked nicely. I could then stop Live and switch to GoogleMaps and it would work nicely.

Yes, it is a problem with Google Maps apparently
It has a very short timeout to get satellite fix.

This is getting frustrating. Maybe I'm just an idiot. I installed Windows Live and configured it to Com 4. I then had Live "center on GPS" and instead of Palo Alto where I am now, it shows me in Oakland. When I switch to Google Maps, I still get the timeout error.
Arrrgh.
Guess I should try GPS Viewer or something instead of Windows Live?
Robert

Yes, try GPS Viewer to see the number of sats you are receiving.

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Yes, try GPS Viewer to see the number of sats you are receiving.
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Well. Downloaded GPS Test (not GPS Viewer) and it shows about 3 satellites (usually 2 are green, 1 yellow). At the minimum, I have one yellow bar. I'm on the 6th floor with a large window that I can see a HUGE amount of sky out of. So I'm kind of disappointed. (Well, now I show no satellites).
It's been indicating "GPS Starting up" for over 3 minutes.
Google Maps still won't get GPS to work
Anyone have any idea what's going on?
Robert

i had alot of google map problems also. after setting to com 4 and 4800 baud go outside and try the track location feature. also it helps if its not too cloudy. Most of the times I was testing it I was inside the house which didnt work.

FYI. GPS Viewer has the following error on my device:
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError
Robert

... and where do I find GPS Viewer? As far as I can tell, it is not on my phone..?

You need to download it, search the forum. there is a link to the site/file somewhere

found another cool one, free http://www.visualgps.net/VisualGPSce/

Just a followup. I downloaded GPSViewer from another site. It works. And now Google Maps works.
Evidently GPS Test just wasn't enough by itself.
Thanks all.
Robert

Strangely I have the opposite problem, GPSViewer can never get a satellite lock, I can leave it for minutes and nothing, but load up Google Maps and within seconds... there I am.... :-D

GPS fails to initiate ... help.

i cannot get the GPS to start working again in the GPS photo. it says the GPS failed to initiate.
anyone had this problem before?
any fix ?
QuickGPS is not updating correctly as well.
thanks.
eric

LOL, just posted my fix in another thread. Try this... Run Windows Live or Google Maps, keep it running then switch to your camera. Go to the gps photo section and it should now initialize within seconds. Take your picture then upload it to GPS Visualizer, seems to be very accurate!

still says cannot initialize the GPS service

Have you been fiddling with the settings in the External GPS control panel applet? It's known that changing them, even if changing them back, kills your GPS. Only a hard reset seems to fix it.

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Have you been fiddling with the settings in the External GPS control panel applet? It's known that changing them, even if changing them back, kills your GPS. Only a hard reset seems to fix it.
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yes i have, damn.

FloatingFatMan said:
Have you been fiddling with the settings in the External GPS control panel applet? It's known that changing them, even if changing them back, kills your GPS. Only a hard reset seems to fix it.
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Bs.
A soft-reset does the trick

I can't get the GPS to work with ANY program. I have NOT messed with the external GPS settings because I read in more than one place that it can mess things up.
It worked the first day I got my phone (initiated with QuickGPS then tested working with Google Maps) but hasn't worked since then. Not a single program I have tried will work with GPS. QuickGPS seems to download (it reaches 100%) but then errors out.
Any suggestions?
.:Christian:.

The best way to get gps activated is by GPS Viewer. You can find it on Google. It is freeware (as far as I can remember). It has been discussed in this forum several times. Set gps (through GPS viewer) to be at COM4 and 4800 baud rate. Then turn on Google maps or Tom Tom or any other GPS using program and wait for up to a minute. Usually it takes less. Once it connects, it works like a charm. The gps part of the phone is excellent. It picks up from within the car, even within the house.

Yeah, I tried that. It never showed anything. No satellites, nothing. The other thing is that I have to soft reset once I try to use the GPS because it slows down my phone so bad.
.:Christian:.

Sherpa posted GPSInit on this forum, it is a very basic app that connects to Com4 at 4800 baud, nothing more. Try that, it should start the GPS. The minimize ( not exit, that closes the GPS) and run the software you want tom use the GPS. If that does not work, your unit may be faulty and you can try a hard-reset.

I tried GPSInit. It said it opened COM4 OK. After that I tried 3 different programs - Google Maps, Map4PDA and Pocket Streets. None of them showed any satellites or any GPS information.
I guess I can try a hard reset if that is my only other option. I have soft reset this thing so many times, I doubt it is going to work again w/o hard reset.
.:Christian:.
P.S. The thing is, I don't know what I did wrong. I did not go into the external GPS settings at all. I guess I can try that, seeing as how it can't hurt me anymore. I just don't want to go through this again every time I want to use the GPS.

After you initiate the GPS with GPSinit, does the red led start blinking on the right of the speaker? If not, your GPS is not working. If it does, do not exit or close GPSInit, since that will close the GPS. Just minimalize it and start another GPS using software, like GPSViewer. Go outside first, and wait a few minutes. The GPS should then get a fix. Then fire up Google Maps and see if it works. Google Maps has a GPS time-out that is too short, meaning you must have a fix with GPS Viewer before starting Google, or the app will time out before a fix is acquired.

I think Koksie means Orange light not Red
Mike

mikechannon said:
I think Koksie means Orange light not Red
Mike
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Correct, sorry.

Koksie said:
After you initiate the GPS with GPSinit, does the red led start blinking on the right of the speaker? If not, your GPS is not working. If it does, do not exit or close GPSInit, since that will close the GPS. Just minimalize it and start another GPS using software, like GPSViewer. Go outside first, and wait a few minutes. The GPS should then get a fix. Then fire up Google Maps and see if it works. Google Maps has a GPS time-out that is too short, meaning you must have a fix with GPS Viewer before starting Google, or the app will time out before a fix is acquired.
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Yes, the orange light starts blinking whenever I use an app that uses GPS. Thing is, it never acquires a signal. I have waited up to 10 minutes, sometimes longer.
Another interesting fact - before, whenever I would use a GPS app, the light would never stop blinking when I exited the app, like it wasn't releasing the GPS or something. Ever since I went into the External GPS app, at least now the light stops blinking whenever I exit a GPS app, restoring my phone to a usable condition. Before, the light would always be blinking and my phone would be very, very slow.
You didn't answer my question about what hardware port the GPS should be on. I know the s/w port is COM4.
Thanks,
.:Christian:.

GPS Not functioning

I screwed my Kaiser gps by trying to use map4pda which automatically changed the port in settings for gps. What can I do? Gps not working anymore,even after putting back the old settings and doing softresets,even took out the battery for a while
Not a single program can find my inbuilt gps now
I do not want to do a hard reset,I have tooo many progs and no backup
Please help

I am afraid to use any other gps program(even after a hard reset) because this could ruin my gps settings
I read somewhere that gps applet is misconfigured(from factory)..and even a slight modification to it,could lead to my gps not functioning till a hard-reset.
Also it's not normal that a program can modify the gps'settings by itself

I have bad news for you, but at least it confirms that Map4PDA is a bad program. I used to love the program. It worked awesome on my 8525. You can have it use MSN, Yahoo or Google Maps.
I installed it on my Tilt and at first I didn't realize that it was the culprit. Then I hard reset and installed only that program and a few others to test GPS. Once I ran Map4PDA, GPS no workie. Hard reset again.
I have not run it since my last hard reset and my GPS still works perfect....and I have used many, many different GPS programs.
So with all that said, I'm afraid a hard reset is your only option. I am not the only one that got bit by this. I posted in another thread here and a few others had the same results as me.

Lidberg said:
I have bad news for you, but at least it confirms that Map4PDA is a bad program. I used to love the program. It worked awesome on my 8525. You can have it use MSN, Yahoo or Google Maps.
I installed it on my Tilt and at first I didn't realize that it was the culprit. Then I hard reset and installed only that program and a few others to test GPS. Once I ran Map4PDA, GPS no workie. Hard reset again.
I have not run it since my last hard reset and my GPS still works perfect....and I have used many, many different GPS programs.
So with all that said, I'm afraid a hard reset is your only option. I am not the only one that got bit by this. I posted in another thread here and a few others had the same results as me.
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Thank you for the info..
Are you sure this is the only gps program that messes up the gps?
Did you test Igo,GpsTuner,GpsGate,Pathaway professional,GeoScout??
But Gloposis,BeeLine gps??
Any other incompatibilities?
Thx

I haven't tested all of those. Here's what I have on my phone right now:
FFF (finger friendly friends)
Google Maps
Live Search
GPS test
GPS Utilities
GPS viewer
GPSinfo
Navigator II
TomTom 6
TrackMe
Virtual Earth
VisualGPSce
I think the other ones will be safe. Map4PDA is the only one I've heard of that kills the Kaiser GPS.

A hard reset is your only option and shouldnt be a nightmare.
Work out what apps you want, check you have the cabs etc, sync your device with your pc and away you go.
I keep all my favourite apps cabs on my storage card so that I could hard reset even if away from my laptop (but I do have an exchange server so setting up sync remotely is also easy).

Reinstalling 60 applications IS very time-consuming,let alone the time to configure them and the OS just the way I like them.
But giving that I do not have any other chance,I'll do it
My only concern is that I'll install other application which will kill again my gps and I have to take all from the beggining. I come from an Eten X500 and this was never happened to me.There , NO application could change some system settings..

emariu said:
Reinstalling 60 applications IS very time-consuming,let alone the time to configure them and the OS just the way I like them.
But giving that I do not have any other chance,I'll do it
My only concern is that I'll install other application which will kill again my gps and I have to take all from the beggining. I come from an Eten X500 and this was never happened to me.There , NO application could change some system settings..
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I too noticed that using different GPS software tends to screw up something on my Tilt. I've used Google Maps and MS Live Search and these tend to screw things up to the point that the GPS is useless. I also have Copilot Live 7 installed and this program has the ability to reset the GPS on my device.
For those not familiar with Copilot, when you go to the Settings panel in Copilot and choose Reset GPS, it asks you to enter a city within 100 miles of your current location in order to reset your GPS properly. If someone could develop an app to replicate this... This would be a great standalone app for all Tilt & variant owners.

But if the gps is already dead,how will Copilot know which city is in 100 miles radius ??it cannot tell the current location,beacuse it cannot get a fix from sattelites...so one cannot do a reset to the gps..

what about a backup? make a backup before you install an app that you don't know if it works or not, install/run app, if all is good, no worries. if all is bad, restore from backup.
the Tilt ROM comes with sprite backup and htc backup is flating around this forum...

emariu said:
But if the gps is already dead,how will Copilot know which city is in 100 miles radius ??it cannot tell the current location,beacuse it cannot get a fix from sattelites...so one cannot do a reset to the gps..
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Not sure how this works, but I've been able to get my GPS working again every time with this feature.

If entering a location with Copilot fixes your GPS, then it wasnt broken to begin with. Just because Google Maps cant get a fix, doesnt mean that your GPS isnt working (all it means is that you need to download the new google maps which is a lot better).
One needs to think about such problems logically. When you open a GPS enabled APP and try to get a fix, does the orange GPS light flash on the device. If it does, then your gps is working with your device. If it then fails to get a fix it is because it cannot see the satellites. Make sure you are giving it a clean line of sight to the sky (ideally to the south if you live in UK).
If the orange light doesn't come on then your com port settings are wrong and its hard reset time.
Oh and if your GPS is working but seems to take a long time to get a fix, then use QUICKGPS to give it a prod.

In the external GPS settings programs tab set to 4800, in the hardware tab gps hardware port select none, baud rate should be at 4800. In te access tab tick manage gps automatically.
Load the TomTom app that comes with the Kaiser or download it from here. go to config on the gps settings within TomTom and it will right itself

Make a backup of the registry and put is back in this situations, easy and fast when you try different programs.
Btw Igo works fine also Nusa maps (Indonesia), Map King pro and Papa Go..

unwired4 said:
If entering a location with Copilot fixes your GPS, then it wasnt broken to begin with. Just because Google Maps cant get a fix, doesnt mean that your GPS isnt working (all it means is that you need to download the new google maps which is a lot better).
One needs to think about such problems logically. When you open a GPS enabled APP and try to get a fix, does the orange GPS light flash on the device. If it does, then your gps is working with your device. If it then fails to get a fix it is because it cannot see the satellites. Make sure you are giving it a clean line of sight to the sky (ideally to the south if you live in UK).
If the orange light doesn't come on then your com port settings are wrong and its hard reset time.
Oh and if your GPS is working but seems to take a long time to get a fix, then use QUICKGPS to give it a prod.
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That's not true in every circumstance. Like the OP, I installed Map4PDA. When you run the program, it searches for the GPS (you can't specify what COM port to use manually) and in my case, hangs on COM3 for whatever reason. I let it sit for over an hour and ended up doing a soft reset because the program was unresponsive.
After that, my GPS would not work in ANY program that it worked in previously. I checked and double-checked my settings to no avail. I posted here and on MoDaCo and got some good advice but in the end, only a hard reset fixed it. Yes, the GPS light would blink but my Tilt would run very, very slowly and would never get a fix. That QuickGPS program would error out every time I ran it. I don't know what Map4PDA did, but it hosed my GPS and it looks like the OP got bit too.
Since my last hard reset, I have installed tons of GPS enabled programs and they all work just fine. I also have never run QuickGPS and I can get a fix within 10 seconds in any program.
I know it's not logical, but that is what worked for me.
EDIT: I don't advocate the spreading of paid for s/w, but I would be curious to see if your CoPilot program would successfully reset the OP's GPS.

If a gps program asks for manual configuration of hardware gps port and the baudrate,what should I input? Like Igo for ex....or GpsTuner...

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If a gps program asks for manual configuration of hardware gps port and the baudrate,what should I input? Like Igo for ex....or GpsTuner...
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COM4, 4800 baud

this com 4 is a program port,it's not the harware gps (native) port..
can we find out which port number is the default(hardware)?
But thnks anyway for the answers

COM4 is what works. Yes, technically, it's a soft port, but it has worked with every GPS enabled program I've tried (except for Map4PDA but that is another story).
The neato thing about that is that it allows more than one program to access the GPS at the same time. If you go directly to the hardware, you lose that functionality.

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COM4 is what works. Yes, technically, it's a soft port, but it has worked with every GPS enabled program I've tried (except for Map4PDA but that is another story).
The neato thing about that is that it allows more than one program to access the GPS at the same time. If you go directly to the hardware, you lose that functionality.
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I use GpsGate anyway,so using multiple gps programs at once isn't a problem for me,BUT because I cannot use hardware port, we are stucked with 4800 baudrate,which is a limitation only with soft multiplexer(built in the OS)

Help with GPS

I tried everything and i am jst giving up. what can i do to make this friggin gps work? I followed everything meticulously on ppcgeeks http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=36639 without any luck. google maps keeps search for satelites, and nothing. always number is zero. do you have any idea what could be wrong? i am on telus cdma network btw.

hi friend...
1st in which area of this sad world do you live??
2nd what is your mobile operator??
3rd do you have a costant/flat umts/gprs connection trought your mobile??
bye,
davide

i live in toronto. i had blackberry curve before this and the gps was smooooth.
this one is being alil biatch.
i am with telus
the third question i don't understand, but my blackberry curve was also with telus, for a week before diamond arrived and the gps was excellent. i don't know why diamond gps is so screwed up. as i said, my diamond is the cdma version. any help is much appriciated, thank you.

I think to know what can be... I mean that happened something similiar to me, but because I cook a new rom every week the problem has disapperead itself.
Anyway I think it can depend by an old problem relative to a dns library that can be overwritten by some software, like for ex some voip software, this cause the internal gps to stop working.
Just tell me if your gps is detected, I mean if your software (for ex tomtom) searches for sats or it says something similar to "gps not found".
If your gps is detected but the software searches sats for infinite time you must look this procedure:
I strongly suggest, just for have a fast response, to use a software like "gps tool" (download from here): go in an open space & install the cab file, then choose com4 => select "clear memory" => & finally "open", go to information window & wait for at least 5 minutes (you must be patient the 1st time), until you read: mode 2D fix... the bars go from red to green, when you have a fix press (in the 1st page) "nav init", after few seconds you can press "close" & exit the program, now open you favorite nav software & you'll get a fix in few seconds.
Instead if your gps isn't detetced you must look this procedure:
hard reset your mobile, because your dns dlls are corrupted
let me know if you have results... bye,
davide

Hi bro!its me again!

suiller said:
I think to know what can be... I mean that happened something similiar to me, but because I cook a new rom every week the problem has disapperead itself.
Anyway I think it can depend by an old problem relative to a dns library that can be overwritten by some software, like for ex some voip software, this cause the internal gps to stop working.
Just tell me if your gps is detected, I mean if your software (for ex tomtom) searches for sats or it says something similar to "gps not found".
If your gps is detected but the software searches sats for infinite time you must look this procedure:
I strongly suggest, just for have a fast response, to use a software like "gps tool" (download from here): go in an open space & install the cab file, then choose com4 => select "clear memory" => & finally "open", go to information window & wait for at least 5 minutes (you must be patient the 1st time), until you read: mode 2D fix... the bars go from red to green, when you have a fix press (in the 1st page) "nav init", after few seconds you can press "close" & exit the program, now open you favorite nav software & you'll get a fix in few seconds.
Instead if your gps isn't detetced you must look this procedure:
hard reset your mobile, because your dns dlls are corrupted
let me know if you have results... bye,
davide
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This has always worked for me as well......and I have to do this often as I'm always flashing Radios to try and find the "Optimum" one

suiller said:
I think to know what can be... I mean that happened something similiar to me, but because I cook a new rom every week the problem has disapperead itself.
Anyway I think it can depend by an old problem relative to a dns library that can be overwritten by some software, like for ex some voip software, this cause the internal gps to stop working.
Just tell me if your gps is detected, I mean if your software (for ex tomtom) searches for sats or it says something similar to "gps not found".
If your gps is detected but the software searches sats for infinite time you must look this procedure:
I strongly suggest, just for have a fast response, to use a software like "gps tool" (download from here): go in an open space & install the cab file, then choose com4 => select "clear memory" => & finally "open", go to information window & wait for at least 5 minutes (you must be patient the 1st time), until you read: mode 2D fix... the bars go from red to green, when you have a fix press (in the 1st page) "nav init", after few seconds you can press "close" & exit the program, now open you favorite nav software & you'll get a fix in few seconds.
Instead if your gps isn't detetced you must look this procedure:
hard reset your mobile, because your dns dlls are corrupted
let me know if you have results... bye,
davide
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yup!work for me too!

hey ninja, lol. how's it going
suiller thanks for the help. i am going to give that a try. i hard reset my rom. i am on juicy 2.5. but it didn't change much. do you think if your first option does not help. i should flash another rom, maybe stock rom, and then put the one i want?

it depends... like mentioned above if your GPS works it just a gps cache problem, in fact soon as cooked the gps cache is empty or corrupted, so it must be reinitialized, doing so the 1st time takes long time
instead if your gps isn't detected, you can check in a minute also by lanuching gps tool, it is yet configured to look at com4 (default com port for gps in htc brand, the problem is somewhere else, I mean that probably the problem could be also in the rom you are using, if the 1st procedure does not work, try to restore your original rom, before carrying back your mobile for warranty be sure it isn't "self-mistake" (for ex by installing an "unofficial" rom)
for what I can say I cooked almost everything & just happened one time, many months ago in my opinion 99,9% of cooked roms doesn't touch gps at all, so I sincerely didn't remember what's happened that time
bye,
davide

hi. thanks for all the help guys.
i tried the gps tool. i installled it and selected clear memory, open, and it never stopped going through the numbers. same numbers again and again, but when i clicked setting it said mode 2 not fixed.
if i recall properly, the gps message i got from google maps was gps not found, but i am not sure ithat it's the rom's fault. it's very popular on ppc geeks. i tried qualcom method to solve the problem but it did nothing. mdata, info, is saved on my hone but no change. so i will try disabling agps, if no help i hard eefresh, or put another rom, if all faili go to fet it replaced, again.
thanks for all you support

ok, i reflashed to stock rom, tried the gps tool, it keeps showing the same method and won't stop. do i need to wait for it to stop?, cuz when i go to information it says mode 2 not fixed.
i am going to hard refresh, and put juicy 2.5 back on, and wait for your help. if nothing i will take it to the store.

I hope you don't have A-GPS cofigured...this will surely screw up your GPS

in tweak diamond, agps is enabled. when i disable it and go to quick gps, it gives me an error, when its enabled quick gps downloads.
should i disable a-gps in tweak diamond?

sure friend, AGPS should be disabled if your provider isn't able to "provide" you that service, beucase it takes busy over & over your gps chipset
there 3 modes to update gps sats positioning:
1) quickgps, simply it's a database where are stored circles/ellipses made by sats, because they are always the same, that data are predicted, so for this reason those values are good also for the near future (at max 1 week), this is the "old" method used by years to make fixing times faster, even if resulting position isn't very accurate
2) AGPS, this should be the last & most intelligent feature, of course your provider must be able to provide that data, if your provider can do this it simply compares your current position (cell broadcast) with the ones stored in their database, and provides automatically to your mobile (trought a regular gprs or umts service) updates positioning, if your provider isn't able to provide this service your gps chipset will be always busy because it scans the network continuosly and other software like for ex tomtom wont be able to access the gps chipset anymore because like told above it is busy by another application
3) classical method, I call old school, and this is also the more realistic method, even if 1st time can take very long and if you don't use very much your navi software it is very annoying because sats runs fast simply it needs a program like gps tool or gps test to full the gps cache (1st time is totally empty), where will be stored current sats position (circles/ellipses), this method can also be reached with last modern navi software, like for ex tomtom7, you must leave it runs until it finds something, remember that 1st time can take up to 20 minutes... it depends also by region & sky conditions, in general in a good environment (ex openspace) for me & in my experience it never took over 5/10 minutes
so if your provider doesn't provide AGPS service simply turn it off and re-run the 3rd method in an open space and you'll see that something will happen
anyway if trought gps tool you are able to open the com4 port and you see data flows it means that your gps chipset is recognized, you have just to wait, if you want a faster/simpler app search here around for "gps test"... simply run it, it detects automatically your gps com port & starts to discover sats
hoping to have cleared something about gps system
bye,
davide

ok, i reflashed stock telus rom, then i flashed juicy 2.5, hard reset and here i am. i got diamond tweak, disabled a-gps:
with a-gps disabled, quickpgs does not update any more. gives me an error at the end.
so i am going to do clear memory with gps tool, but does baudrate matter? when i turn it on it is set at 5600 should i change it to 4800?
do i need to be in an open area when clearing memory, or it does not matter?
if this wont work, i will go in throug hqualcom, and make sure i have the settings posted on ppc geeks forum. i hope something will turn up.
what is the connection though. if a-gps is disabled, quick gps does not download. but when its enabled it does. does it mean telus supports a-gps or it shows that there is an internal problem with my gps?
thanks for all the help.

i installed gps test. it shows yellow circle and GPS starting up. above it shows hdop 50.00 Fix 1D, and baudrate is set at 9600.
does this also take a long time, or is it a good sign. if it shows this, does it mean my gps is working, but only needs to be reconfigured somewhow?

i was just outside for 1 hour, with the gps tool turned on. nothing. it keeps clearing memory, or so it says, but when i look the same numbers show up. i waited for an hour till it got dark and cold and went back. gps test shows starting up gps but never getsa round to it either.
i duno what to do anymore.

ah, where is everyone?

holy crap, finally, i solved it.
I had the same problem after setting AGPS in Advanced Configuration Tool. Nothing I did: soft reset, hard reset even installing new ROM resolved the issue. Finally I found the problem: Go to Programs-settings-phone-services-Location setting-get settings-On. This allows your phone to tell your GPS where you are. The GPS now finds satellites in a few seconds.
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it was an old habit of disabling gps to emergency only. i didn't realize it would screw me over on a pda. well. nice nice nice.
thanks for all your help everyone, you ahve been great.

this means that your mobile provider supports AGPS feature
so it must turned on... well done

TomTom Satellites

After some messing about with TomTom themselves (due to issues they had on their site) I have now finally installed the maps onto my Serra. Map is fine, but when it comes to getting a good GPS signal it hasn't had one yet!!
I can see various satellites all around me (on the screen, not in the air) but it just keeps asking if I am in a building as quality is poor.
I am in the UK. I did actually get some other navigation software with the phone itself when I bought it secondhand but that is still all in its cellophane as I like TomTom personally. Have paid for the cameras/traffic updates too and camera work but traffic seems to have put me onto a trial rather than full version. Will take that one up with TomTom themselves.

Well, assuming that you are outside, then I'd suggest checking that AGPS is switched OFF, as I've seen this do weird things to TomTom. The other thing to try is to force QuickGPS to download updated data, as that sometimes has a beneficial effect.
Cheers,
Steve.

No fix
A Friend of mine had the same problem with his Asus A636. I used a program called SirfTech (http://w5.nuinternet.com/s660100031/SirfTech.htm) to reset the GPS chip (not entire phone!) to factory standard, it worked perfect for him.
Start sirftech and press "OK", navigate to "NMEA" then "navigation initialization", select "factory reset" and press "set". that should be all, close sirftech (maybe soft reset) and try again.
good luck

Try this http://www.htc.com/www/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=570&news_id=165

try adjusting your baud rate until you find one tomtom likes, i noticed mine taking awhile to lock up also even in the car, If i need my gps to jumpstart here is my trick.
I open GCzII I pick any cache and i hit gps monitor, dont ask me why but if you have 8 satellites greyed out (not locked) this works everytime. It seems to initialize it quicker. Why ? i have no clue but it works for me.

If you are using a internal GPS then select the option "other NMEA reciever" and select the right compoort..