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I've just got the Vario III new from T-Mobile UK, and I just can't the GPS get to receive any signals. I guess there is no "in box" way of testing the GPS, so I downloaded MS Live Search, and in there the "Centre on GPS". Previously, I set the hardware to COM0, 4800 Baud, autostart GPS by appilcation. In Live Search, I equally set it to COM0.
When is press the "centra on GPS", the righ hand side orange LED starts blinking, and the message inside Live Search is something like "retrieving GPS datat", but that's it. Nothing more happens.
I've also tried it with TomTom, but no result here either, other than the message "invalid GPS data".
I've called T-Mobile support to find out if there's anything on their side that needs doing, but apparently not.
So, I'm pretty stuck. Does anyone have an idea what I could try? Thanks!
First off, never ever go into the External GPS settings in the control panel. The general consensus around here is that it almost always requires a hard reset after messing with that. If you did, make sure it's set to COM4, 4800 baud.
Make sure your apps are set to COM4, 4800 baud. If that fails, a hard reset may be in order.
Why did you set it to COM0? Did someone tell you to do that?
I set it to to COM0 just to try SOMETHING.
I guess a hard reset is in order
So I just leave the GPS settings be and don't even touch them, yes?
Ok, so I've just done a hard reset.
The one and only thing I've done is install Live Search.
In the prefs of it, COM4 was automatically selected.
Hit "centre on GPS", with absolutely no reaction other than "Getting GPS position".
Any further thoughts? Hardware fault? Software issue?
The signal from GPS satellites is very low powered. ANY obstructions to the sky can cause a failure. My handheld Garmin GPSs and my Tilt will not get a lock in the house. Outside; buildings, trees, land masses and clouds all prevent a good lock. From my experiences with the Tilt, I have to get out into the open and wait 5-10 minutes or more for a lock.
Download the new google mobile maps and try that. It seems to get a fix quickly and doesnt time out as quickly as the older version (and some other gps enabled apps).
Cool, I got it to work. I left the device outside on the balcony for 10 minutes, and Live Search did lock in on me.
I now downloaded Google Mobile Maps, but couldn't locate a GPS function (I downloaded it from their website). Am I blind?
The thing that worked for me was to install GPS Viewer (freeware, you can Google it) and then open GPS from there. It takes about a minute to connect but then it stays on and interfaces with Tomtom very well. Prior to running it, please also download and run QuickGPS (it comes as loaded software with Kaiser, you may have to download it also as freeware, helps keep the connection steady; it is advised to download QuickGPS once a week, this is as long as its effect lasts, don't know why). The combination of QuickGPS and GPSViewer works very well.
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I now downloaded Google Mobile Maps, but couldn't locate a GPS function (I downloaded it from their website). Am I blind?
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Menu | Track Location
Hmm no, I dont have that menu item. Maybe I got an older version of it after all?
It's "Menu | Show My Location" on mine.
BTW, I saw a trick on another thread which worked very well for me. Enable the GPS Photo option (by using Kaiser Tweak or tweaking the registry) and open that first. It seems to get a fix very quickly. Once it's got one, you can close it and open any other GPS program like google maps and it tracks instantly. I also have QuickGPS installed and updated so that probably helps too.
After hard resetting twice, I have never run the QuickGPS program and I get a fix every time in less than a minute, even inside my house (by a window).
One program I highly recommend never using until it is updated is Map4PDA. It killed my GPS, requiring a hard reset.
Download GPS Test, run and confirm signal strength by satellite. That should solve your issue or at least answer the question of functionality.
Just got my 8925 and cannot get the GPS to interface with TomTom. It keeps saying GPS connection not found. Is there something special to do to activate the GPS? I have run the QuickGPS.
Thanks in advance,
Tomy51
tried going outside?
Yes, I went outside, tried the 3 different types of GPS's TomTom has ans still not connection.
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Yes, I went outside, tried the 3 different types of GPS's TomTom has ans still not connection.
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ok i run tomtom as well here is what i do:
1) download quickgps update
2) open gpsrouter com4 baud 4800 (search it if you don't have it)
3) run gpstest (under settings make sure it is at com4 baud 4800)
4) open tomtom (change preferences>show gps stutus>configure> try other NMEA set at com4 baud 4800 or Built-in GPS receiver. I tend to get a quicker fix using other NMEA)
good luck.
Thanks, that would probably explain why my gps isn't working as I do not have gpsrouter or gpstest. I'l go searching the forum to try and find it. Knew it had to be something, thanks agian for the help.
You really shouldn't (don't) need those things to make TomTom work. Just make sure TomTom is set to use the internal GPS (or set it to COM4 etc as above, depending on the version you have).
I use the TomTom that came on CD with the phone (not every carrier includes it) and it works perfectly, but you do need to be patient when you first start it up. Initially, it was always say "No GPS device!" for a good few moments before the internal GPS starts up, and then you'll get "Waiting for a valid GPS signal" - how long it waits then is down to your position etc. If you're outside with a good view of the sky - and your QuickGPS data is up to date - it could just be a few seconds - or you might be waiting forever if you're indoors/covered etc.
Does the "No GPS device!" message dissapear after a few moments for you? If it does then all is fine, you may just need to be more patient. If it doesn't, and it's constantly saying that, then something is misconfigured somewhere.
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You really shouldn't (don't) need those things to make TomTom work. Just make sure TomTom is set to use the internal GPS (or set it to COM4 etc as above, depending on the version you have).
I use the TomTom that came on CD with the phone (not every carrier includes it) and it works perfectly, but you do need to be patient when you first start it up. Initially, it was always say "No GPS device!" for a good few moments before the internal GPS starts up, and then you'll get "Waiting for a valid GPS signal" - how long it waits then is down to your position etc. If you're outside with a good view of the sky - and your QuickGPS data is up to date - it could just be a few seconds - or you might be waiting forever if you're indoors/covered etc.
Does the "No GPS device!" message dissapear after a few moments for you? If it does then all is fine, you may just need to be more patient. If it doesn't, and it's constantly saying that, then something is misconfigured somewhere.
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The ATT tilt US version doesn't come with tomtom. I have had a purchased tomtom and the cab that is floating around this forum. The only way i can get it to work with either version is to have gpstest and quickgps. But without gpsrouter i usually have to wait 10mins for a fix. Kinda sucks but hey at least it works now.
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The ATT tilt US version doesn't come with tomtom. I have had a purchased tomtom and the cab that is floating around this forum. The only way i can get it to work with either version is to have gpstest and quickgps. But without gpsrouter i usually have to wait 10mins for a fix. Kinda sucks but hey at least it works now.
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That's a real shame, because it works perfectly with the HTC rom. I wonder what AT&T have done to cripple it?
I just tried mine in the office and despite being inside (though on the top floor) it still had me located in about 30 seconds. There's a real joy in having a full-on, reliable TomTom in your phone - I recommend a ROM upgrade!
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That's a real shame, because it works perfectly with the HTC rom. I wonder what AT&T have done to cripple it?
I just tried mine in the office and despite being inside (though on the top floor) it still had me located in about 30 seconds. There's a real joy in having a full-on, reliable TomTom in your phone - I recommend a ROM upgrade!
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tomtom just sucks without support applications i guess. I have dutty's april 16th and i get a fix within 10-30 seconds now. Yes, I as well can get a fix from my basement within a minute if I have used my tomtom outdoors within the last quickgps upload.
Can someone please help me?
I have tried these programs:
Tomtom 6
Tomtom 7
GPSdash
BeeLineGPS
WMMiniGPS
GPS tuner
Google maps
I'm using the latest TLR ROM. My GPS setting are default. Com4 Baud rate: 4800.
Here's the problem. The programs seem to find the receiver and seem to find the satellites. (10-15). But I can get absolutely no signal at all. Indoors or outdoors.
I'm getting quite desperate
Have you used any of the tweaks for GPS? I ask as I did but my signal kept dropping - so I turned the tweak off and now it is fine.
I would also suggest using the QuickGPS application to get the Satellite information quicker
I've tried disabling agps. Didn't help. And yes I have used QuickGPS... but no luck.
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Was it the first try? When I tried first it was 6-8 minutes. Where do you try? In the outdoor?
Have you ever used it?
TB
Do you have correct setting "GPS is managed automatically" ?
When I set to GPS is managed manually, I could not found any way to power on builtin GPS. You have to check box "GPS is managed automatically". I think, it may be point of your problem
I had the exact same issue dude... TomTom 6 didn't work so I installed TomTOm 7... still no signal... even with QuickGPS ran...
Google Maps didn't work either....
I'm not sure what I did in the end... took out the battery, set GPS to 'let windows manage automatically' and ran Quick GPS again.. then run TomTOm 7, go to the 'GPS Status' screen which shows the sat signal charts and stand in a wide open area for 5 mins.. ever since then it has worked fine
all the best.
btw you have to make sure your system date and time are accurate coz otherwise it'll be searching for Sats with a wrong reference to the Sat almanac..
Yes, it's set to manage automatically. I've been trying to get a signal by the window, I left the device just sitting there for more than a half hour and still nothing. I guess I'll have to try longer while being outdoors. Hope it helps... but thanks for your help.
I did that too and it didn't work for me. You have to be outside for the 1st time GPS fix and make sure you run QuickGPS before that. Ohh yeah use TomTom 7 to detect the signal... I find that the most reliable somehow... and be sure it's configured to use the built-in GPS receiver...
I know it feels odd... I nearly sent my unit back for warranty because I was very convinced that the patch antenna was somehow disconnected from the chip. lol.
I had the same issue at one point, due to my fiddling and inadequate hacking attempts!
see if you can track down the HTC GPS tool (it's here on XDA somewhere, but i can't find a link at the mo) and run that.
Chipset should be set to Q7200 (yes i know its actually a 7201A but it works the same) and com port to com 4.
Tap the open port button and you should see the GOS info scrolling through the grey window in the program.
If you see nothing, check the external GPS settings
program tab should be com 4
hardware tab should be non and 4800
last tab should be ticked.
if you still get no GPS info scrolling through the gps tool, then it seems you have the same problem i did. Sadly, i had to hard reset it to get it working again, but it has been perfect ever since.
FYI, this started happening once i had turned aGPS on, and even turning it off did not work for me, so if you have to hard reset, i wouldn't bother ever turning the aGPS on again.
where's the option to turn aGPS on/off?
I just remembered how I resolved my issue... I put a SIM card in I had previously been trying to use it with WiFi (to update QuickGPS) but once I had a SIM in there, the GPS worked. Could it be because I'm now using aGPS? hmm...
you need to install schaps advanced config tool to get to the setting to turn aGPS on and off again.
it seems to be off by default btw.
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you need to install schaps advanced config tool to get to the setting to turn aGPS on and off again.
it seems to be off by default btw.
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I also kept lossing the GPS signal with this on every few seconds. So I turned it off for good
did you maybe install voip on your diamond? If so that's your problem there. Hard reset you diamond don't install voip en there you go.
It worked! Thank you all.... I had to sit for half an hour in direct sunlight but it was well worth it... I'm new to gps... do you have to do this with every new gps receiver or is this just another great feature from HTC?
I'm, having the same probelm here.
I'm on my second diamond as the first one (a HK version) had a fault with the internal speeker. On the First phone the internal GPS worked fine with both TOMTOM 6 and Google maps. The initial setup only took about 30 secs.
With the new phone (UK spec) I have tried TT7, TT6 and Google maps. I have also run quiick GPS, hard reset and enabling and disabling assisted GPS using the advanced config tool.
Is there anything else I should try or is this likely to be another hardware issue?
Solution To Gps Problem
if you installed VOIP you should hard reset...gps dead...:-( no other solution.
Help! My Diamond GPS reception is MUCH worse than on my Touch Cruise
Hi,
I've just got a Touch Diamond, and the GPS reception is absolutely appalling. I have hard-reset twice, after which I've done nothing except download a QuickGPS update, but still the signal strength and its ability to connect to satellites is completely inconsistent and unreliable, even outdoors. I CAN get a good signal occasionally, but it's very rare. Most often I get no GPS signals whatsoever, or else I get just a couple of weak greyed-out signal bars in TomTom.
I can lay my Diamond down next to my Touch Cruise (both have identical TomTom 6 software loaded from the same CAB), and the Cruise always launches the app faster, finds the GPS device faster, AND finds adequate satellites faster. The Touch Cruise has a lot of problems, but the one thing it has always been very good at is GPS, and it has NEVER failed to find adequate satellites in TomTom 6, even indoors. It always takes well under a minute to do so, too. It's surely not unreasonable to expect at least the same level of performance from the next generation of device. Why should the Diamond's GPS performance be demonstrably so much worse?!!
Nine times out of ten, my Touch Diamond will simply sit there for an hour or more with the TomTom status bar reading 'Waiting for valid GPS signal...". Quite often when I open the GPS configuration option in TT6, it shows absolutely NO SHRED of a GPS signal whatsoever, even outdoors. (My Diamond and my Cruise have identical GPS settings in both Windows and TomTom, by the way).
The annoying thing is that the Diamond's GPS HAS worked on a couple of rare occasions, and the signal strength has been at least as good as on my Touch Cruise. The Diamond is much worse at holding the signal however, and is totally and utterly unreliable for navigation. It certainly isn't the 'Ultra-sensitive GPS' that HTC's marketing promised - it's nowhere near as good as the GPS on the Cruise, which is the previous generation! The Diamond's GPS DOES work well on very rare occasions - it's just that 95 times out of 100, I'm not getting anything at all. This makes me wonder if it isn't a WM 6.1 compatibility problem or a conflict of some kind. It's almost as if Windows is having difficulty activating/waking the GPS fully. When (and if) it finally gets going, reception is actually very good.
I have also downloaded the HTC GPS Tool as someone here suggested, and it reveals the same results as TomTom - I usually get either no satellites at all, or I get two or three red satellite status bars and a message saying 'Fix not available'. It ALWAYS shows a data stream coming from COM4 though, so there doesn't seem to be any problem actually finding the GPS device. On the rare occasions when I have got a usable GPS signal, the HTC Tool then shows two or three red status bars and three or four green ones as well. During those rare periods, Google Maps can also find anything from three to ten satellites, even indoors. However, the next few times I try the Diamond's GPS, nothing will happen at all - it's suddenly as if all the satellites have fallen out of the sky.
By the way, would QuickGPS make ANY difference on the Diamond? As other have pointed out, aGPS is disabled on the Diamond by default. Aren't QuickGPS and aGPS the same thing? I don't know. But if so, surely the QuickGPS data is useless on the Diamond?
Does anyone have ANY idea how to make GPS on the Diamond work as well as it does on the Touch Cruise? Does anyone know why it doesn't already? Has anyone else done a direct comparison between the Diamond and another HTC device using the same GPS software?
I really like the Diamond, but it's incredibly frustrating that the GPS is unreliable to the point of being unusable. At the moment, I'm having to carry the Cruise for GPS navigation and the Diamond for everything else! Certainly not what I paid for. It should do this stuff straight out of the box. Since it doesn't, I can only assume my device is faulty so if I can't get it fixed by the weekend, I'm returning it for a replacement.
Thanks,
Rob.
P.S. Sorry for such a long post, but I needed to vent.
Hi there, I'm having the same problem as RH Photography.
All the programs are trying to communicate, but no fix at all. Once I got a fix, but only 4 sattelites, when in my car GPS BT had fixed to 9!
Will try hard reset and install HTC GPS tool an try to fix
I tried everything and i am jst giving up. what can i do to make this friggin gps work? I followed everything meticulously on ppcgeeks http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=36639 without any luck. google maps keeps search for satelites, and nothing. always number is zero. do you have any idea what could be wrong? i am on telus cdma network btw.
hi friend...
1st in which area of this sad world do you live??
2nd what is your mobile operator??
3rd do you have a costant/flat umts/gprs connection trought your mobile??
bye,
davide
i live in toronto. i had blackberry curve before this and the gps was smooooth.
this one is being alil biatch.
i am with telus
the third question i don't understand, but my blackberry curve was also with telus, for a week before diamond arrived and the gps was excellent. i don't know why diamond gps is so screwed up. as i said, my diamond is the cdma version. any help is much appriciated, thank you.
I think to know what can be... I mean that happened something similiar to me, but because I cook a new rom every week the problem has disapperead itself.
Anyway I think it can depend by an old problem relative to a dns library that can be overwritten by some software, like for ex some voip software, this cause the internal gps to stop working.
Just tell me if your gps is detected, I mean if your software (for ex tomtom) searches for sats or it says something similar to "gps not found".
If your gps is detected but the software searches sats for infinite time you must look this procedure:
I strongly suggest, just for have a fast response, to use a software like "gps tool" (download from here): go in an open space & install the cab file, then choose com4 => select "clear memory" => & finally "open", go to information window & wait for at least 5 minutes (you must be patient the 1st time), until you read: mode 2D fix... the bars go from red to green, when you have a fix press (in the 1st page) "nav init", after few seconds you can press "close" & exit the program, now open you favorite nav software & you'll get a fix in few seconds.
Instead if your gps isn't detetced you must look this procedure:
hard reset your mobile, because your dns dlls are corrupted
let me know if you have results... bye,
davide
Hi bro!its me again!
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I think to know what can be... I mean that happened something similiar to me, but because I cook a new rom every week the problem has disapperead itself.
Anyway I think it can depend by an old problem relative to a dns library that can be overwritten by some software, like for ex some voip software, this cause the internal gps to stop working.
Just tell me if your gps is detected, I mean if your software (for ex tomtom) searches for sats or it says something similar to "gps not found".
If your gps is detected but the software searches sats for infinite time you must look this procedure:
I strongly suggest, just for have a fast response, to use a software like "gps tool" (download from here): go in an open space & install the cab file, then choose com4 => select "clear memory" => & finally "open", go to information window & wait for at least 5 minutes (you must be patient the 1st time), until you read: mode 2D fix... the bars go from red to green, when you have a fix press (in the 1st page) "nav init", after few seconds you can press "close" & exit the program, now open you favorite nav software & you'll get a fix in few seconds.
Instead if your gps isn't detetced you must look this procedure:
hard reset your mobile, because your dns dlls are corrupted
let me know if you have results... bye,
davide
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This has always worked for me as well......and I have to do this often as I'm always flashing Radios to try and find the "Optimum" one
suiller said:
I think to know what can be... I mean that happened something similiar to me, but because I cook a new rom every week the problem has disapperead itself.
Anyway I think it can depend by an old problem relative to a dns library that can be overwritten by some software, like for ex some voip software, this cause the internal gps to stop working.
Just tell me if your gps is detected, I mean if your software (for ex tomtom) searches for sats or it says something similar to "gps not found".
If your gps is detected but the software searches sats for infinite time you must look this procedure:
I strongly suggest, just for have a fast response, to use a software like "gps tool" (download from here): go in an open space & install the cab file, then choose com4 => select "clear memory" => & finally "open", go to information window & wait for at least 5 minutes (you must be patient the 1st time), until you read: mode 2D fix... the bars go from red to green, when you have a fix press (in the 1st page) "nav init", after few seconds you can press "close" & exit the program, now open you favorite nav software & you'll get a fix in few seconds.
Instead if your gps isn't detetced you must look this procedure:
hard reset your mobile, because your dns dlls are corrupted
let me know if you have results... bye,
davide
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yup!work for me too!
hey ninja, lol. how's it going
suiller thanks for the help. i am going to give that a try. i hard reset my rom. i am on juicy 2.5. but it didn't change much. do you think if your first option does not help. i should flash another rom, maybe stock rom, and then put the one i want?
it depends... like mentioned above if your GPS works it just a gps cache problem, in fact soon as cooked the gps cache is empty or corrupted, so it must be reinitialized, doing so the 1st time takes long time
instead if your gps isn't detected, you can check in a minute also by lanuching gps tool, it is yet configured to look at com4 (default com port for gps in htc brand, the problem is somewhere else, I mean that probably the problem could be also in the rom you are using, if the 1st procedure does not work, try to restore your original rom, before carrying back your mobile for warranty be sure it isn't "self-mistake" (for ex by installing an "unofficial" rom)
for what I can say I cooked almost everything & just happened one time, many months ago in my opinion 99,9% of cooked roms doesn't touch gps at all, so I sincerely didn't remember what's happened that time
bye,
davide
hi. thanks for all the help guys.
i tried the gps tool. i installled it and selected clear memory, open, and it never stopped going through the numbers. same numbers again and again, but when i clicked setting it said mode 2 not fixed.
if i recall properly, the gps message i got from google maps was gps not found, but i am not sure ithat it's the rom's fault. it's very popular on ppc geeks. i tried qualcom method to solve the problem but it did nothing. mdata, info, is saved on my hone but no change. so i will try disabling agps, if no help i hard eefresh, or put another rom, if all faili go to fet it replaced, again.
thanks for all you support
ok, i reflashed to stock rom, tried the gps tool, it keeps showing the same method and won't stop. do i need to wait for it to stop?, cuz when i go to information it says mode 2 not fixed.
i am going to hard refresh, and put juicy 2.5 back on, and wait for your help. if nothing i will take it to the store.
I hope you don't have A-GPS cofigured...this will surely screw up your GPS
in tweak diamond, agps is enabled. when i disable it and go to quick gps, it gives me an error, when its enabled quick gps downloads.
should i disable a-gps in tweak diamond?
sure friend, AGPS should be disabled if your provider isn't able to "provide" you that service, beucase it takes busy over & over your gps chipset
there 3 modes to update gps sats positioning:
1) quickgps, simply it's a database where are stored circles/ellipses made by sats, because they are always the same, that data are predicted, so for this reason those values are good also for the near future (at max 1 week), this is the "old" method used by years to make fixing times faster, even if resulting position isn't very accurate
2) AGPS, this should be the last & most intelligent feature, of course your provider must be able to provide that data, if your provider can do this it simply compares your current position (cell broadcast) with the ones stored in their database, and provides automatically to your mobile (trought a regular gprs or umts service) updates positioning, if your provider isn't able to provide this service your gps chipset will be always busy because it scans the network continuosly and other software like for ex tomtom wont be able to access the gps chipset anymore because like told above it is busy by another application
3) classical method, I call old school, and this is also the more realistic method, even if 1st time can take very long and if you don't use very much your navi software it is very annoying because sats runs fast simply it needs a program like gps tool or gps test to full the gps cache (1st time is totally empty), where will be stored current sats position (circles/ellipses), this method can also be reached with last modern navi software, like for ex tomtom7, you must leave it runs until it finds something, remember that 1st time can take up to 20 minutes... it depends also by region & sky conditions, in general in a good environment (ex openspace) for me & in my experience it never took over 5/10 minutes
so if your provider doesn't provide AGPS service simply turn it off and re-run the 3rd method in an open space and you'll see that something will happen
anyway if trought gps tool you are able to open the com4 port and you see data flows it means that your gps chipset is recognized, you have just to wait, if you want a faster/simpler app search here around for "gps test"... simply run it, it detects automatically your gps com port & starts to discover sats
hoping to have cleared something about gps system
bye,
davide
ok, i reflashed stock telus rom, then i flashed juicy 2.5, hard reset and here i am. i got diamond tweak, disabled a-gps:
with a-gps disabled, quickpgs does not update any more. gives me an error at the end.
so i am going to do clear memory with gps tool, but does baudrate matter? when i turn it on it is set at 5600 should i change it to 4800?
do i need to be in an open area when clearing memory, or it does not matter?
if this wont work, i will go in throug hqualcom, and make sure i have the settings posted on ppc geeks forum. i hope something will turn up.
what is the connection though. if a-gps is disabled, quick gps does not download. but when its enabled it does. does it mean telus supports a-gps or it shows that there is an internal problem with my gps?
thanks for all the help.
i installed gps test. it shows yellow circle and GPS starting up. above it shows hdop 50.00 Fix 1D, and baudrate is set at 9600.
does this also take a long time, or is it a good sign. if it shows this, does it mean my gps is working, but only needs to be reconfigured somewhow?
i was just outside for 1 hour, with the gps tool turned on. nothing. it keeps clearing memory, or so it says, but when i look the same numbers show up. i waited for an hour till it got dark and cold and went back. gps test shows starting up gps but never getsa round to it either.
i duno what to do anymore.
ah, where is everyone?
holy crap, finally, i solved it.
I had the same problem after setting AGPS in Advanced Configuration Tool. Nothing I did: soft reset, hard reset even installing new ROM resolved the issue. Finally I found the problem: Go to Programs-settings-phone-services-Location setting-get settings-On. This allows your phone to tell your GPS where you are. The GPS now finds satellites in a few seconds.
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it was an old habit of disabling gps to emergency only. i didn't realize it would screw me over on a pda. well. nice nice nice.
thanks for all your help everyone, you ahve been great.
this means that your mobile provider supports AGPS feature
so it must turned on... well done
Hi I have a T-Mobile Compact IV (HTC Diamond I believe) and my GPS has just stopped working. It comes with CoPilot LIve 7 Trial and has been working fine until I bought the licence code for the full version.
Now it says there is 'No GPS Signal' when I run CoPilot. I have tried QuickGPS and Google Maps (both pre installed like CoPilot) and neither of thoses apps work either!
I have read that the GPS chicp could be locked? Anybody came accross this problem before or have a solution to this. I have emailed T-Mobile, HTC and the makers of CoPilot. Seems like nobody is interested in helping now that I have shelled out for a licence code.
Any help here would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
GPS chip cannot be "locked" out...forget that
There are a number of great threads relating to GPS issues exactly as you described (too numerous to list though...) suggest you have a quick search and move on from there...
I expect that you need to clear the embedded data (use HTC GPS Tool, and clear memory) and then be patient for a first fix.......confident this will work for you
i'd also recomend GPS Tool, its availible here.
Just download the .cab file and run it on your MDACIV
Thanks for the reply guys. I have downloaded and tried the HTC GPS tool and it doesn't seem to find anything. All I get is the error 'Failed to send NMEA command'.
I have just downloaded Google Maps and tested that with the GPS setting and it just sits there saying 'Seeking GPS Satelites (0)...' for ages.
I have also tried lots of the other suggestions in this forum but with no luck. Its almost as if there is no GPS built into this. The only things I have hope for is to hard reset the MDA or to update the ROM/Radio. Tried using the reg edit tool and adv config tool to see if any settings are causing a problem? Could it be the update to comapct farmework 3.5 or the settings for the IP phone?
Unfortunatly I have followed the instructions to hard reset the MDA but it just seems to soft reset, plus what will happen to my installation of CoPilot as it was pre-installed with the phone. I have a backup done with the Sprite Backup tool that came with the phone but will this restore programs if the device is reset?
And the ROMs are all for the HTC Diamond. Plus not too sure about invalidating my warranty with an update.
Really starting to think the GPS has just broke on me. Which is a bit odd since it hasn't been dropped or damaged etc...
Starting to get a bit frustrated as there doesn't seem to be a conclusive answer any where on the web and no supplier is getting back to me (wonder why...?)
OK...it lookslike you have a few more options now....
First thing is make a backup! Do this now and save it to Internal Storage.
A Hard reset appears to be the next option...its fiddely to organise, but it sounds like you need to get a "fresh" install. I would then only install the HTC GPS Tool and then try and find your GPS using standard setting as installed. If it cannot be found then perhaps you have an issue with the unit itself.
As for your co-pilot, surely you have the install cab or disc that came with the unit?
Right now you need to know:
i) Are just the settings screwed up, or
ii) Do I have a faulty unit.....
If it faulty you want to keep the original ROM for warranty purpose (so don't flash that........yet!)
Hold on...
GPS is always OFF until the phone comes out of 'flight mode'. You can do this by activating at least one of the following (phone, BT, Wifi).
Some applications like Igo8 are able to access the GPS whilst the phone is in flight mode.
Other apps such as TT, GPS Tuner, BeelineGPS etc need the non-flight mode.
This can be set in the Comms Manager.
topspeclt said:
Hold on...
GPS is always OFF until the phone comes out of 'flight mode'. You can do this by activating at least one of the following (phone, BT, Wifi).
Other apps such as TT, GPS Tuner, BeelineGPS etc need the non-flight mode.
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Not as far I am aware. I can and have run TT6 with flight mode engaged - on a BA flight. It starts by saying flight mode engaged at the bottom left, but still finds the satelites (as long as you are next to the window).
And yes BA allow the use of GPS for flights except at take off and landing.
Thanks everyone for the replies.
But I took the plunge and dislocated my fingers to perform a hard reset. After the hard reset the phone automatically re-installed all the supplied apps (CoPilot, Google Maps etc...) and it worked fine.
Tried lots of suggestions and tools but this is the only thiong that has worked. I have read lots of conflicting posts about how the GPS can lock due to several apps attempting to use it while other say its due to the phone not having it enabled as default. And then others say it can't lock!
At the end of the day the GPS worked in the morning and then stopped in the afternoon after no fiddling with the phone. This makes me feel like it could happen again.
As I write this I have just had my first manufacturer response. Its from the makers of CoPilot. They have posted the following :
Please go to Start Menu | Settings | System / GPS
• At the bottom left hand corner of the screen please select Programs and change the GPS program port to COM 4.
• Select Hardware at the bottom left hand corner of the screen and make sure the GPS hardware port to be set to COM 3 and the Baud Rate to 4800.
• Finally at the bottom left hand corner of the screen Select Access and check if the box Manage GPS automatically is ticked.
• Also, please go into START | SETTINGS | CONNECTIONS | BEAM
Please ensure that the beam is unticked as this affects the GPS pickup.
• Also ensure that you do not have any other GPS program installed on the device as this could also affect the GPS setup in Copilot.
2. Launch CoPilot Live on your Pocket PC (Tap on ""Start --> CoPilot Live"")
a. In the ""GPS"" menu, tap ""Options"" and tap on ""Setup GPS""
b. Tap on ""Manual"" and in the ""GPS Com Port and Baud Rate"" section, select the COM port and Baud Rate as provided by your GPS manufacturer (Com 4, Baud Rate: 9600). If you do not know this information, tap the ""Automatic"", then tap ""Next"" and CoPilot Live will search all available ports for your receiver. Note: If you are using a Bluetooth GPS receiver, your Pocket PC's Bluetooth Manager must be aware of the device before CoPilot Live can detect it.
c. Tap ""OK"" at the top of the screen to close the GPS Options. Note: CoPilot will remember the GPS settings on exit, so you will only need to configure your GPS on the first use.
Would like to have tried this but I spent quite a bit of time messing with COM port setting et all... and nothing seemed to work. Ho hum.
Anyhoo, again thanks everybody from your help.
Andrew