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Sprint PPC-6700 a $649 software update to the PPC-6600?

First off let me share with you in your
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Anyways, has anyone else heard of this yet?
I am researching like a mad man tonight.. I've dug up some interesting shyt.
Here are the links you should check out.
http://cellphones.engadget.com/entry/1234000353051184/
http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52054
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70360
HERE HERE HERE
http://www.pcsintel.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1001
HERE HERE HERE
http://www.pcsintel.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=4929
Christopher Price
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No, I have many sources reporting many things, and some things I can talk about (mostly what's out there) and somethings I can't (mostly not what's out there).
I wrote the PPC-6600 "Upgrade" article to force Sprint to disclose on-the-record that an upgrade will be offered for existing owners. It was a clear, yet at the same time, carefully worded piece of consumer advocacy, and it served its purpose. When everything's disclosed I think it will be clear why. Regardless of what the 6700 does turn out to be, 6600 owners would have been otherwise left feeling forced to upgrade.
What I have said all along as to what the 6700 is, is that it is a device that would not be motivating for other 6600 owners to upgrade to for the most part with the exception of it is EV-DO enabled.
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wow...

WHAT?!?
nobody has anything to say?
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well Telus then seems like it has a way better deal with the same thing but at half the price.....
Copenhagen, it looks like we have the same device, what have to done to yours to make it Better?

szamot said:
well Telus then seems like it has a way better deal with the same thing but at half the price.....
Copenhagen, it looks like we have the same device, what have to done to yours to make it Better?
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Telus is starting it's evdo network in the first quater of 2006. Hopefully we should get an update offered to us as well.
I don't think telus' version of the ppc6600 has evdo enabled out of the box. <- can someone check on this??
I havn't done any upgrades yet.. as there havn't been any offered to date.
The bluetooth stack on this unit is fairly stable and the radio and ext rom are both one of the newest versions available. I've only found rom updates for GSM units and others that are incompatible with our CDMA version of the ppc6600.
I'm not sure how many other countries are using this exact model of ppc6600. I know new zeland telecom, sprint & verison, telus and bell are using the same. That should indicate that if sprint releases an update, then so will the others. Sprints update renames their model of ppc6600 to ppc6700...
When that time comes, paying ANOTHER ~600 bucks would be outrageous. The phone just came out here and I paid the 350 w/ 3 yrs contract. I would pay for an update of course but it would have to be reasonable... 600+ is not. If sprint DOES release an update, it will make its way to xda. By that time, hopefully, the forum here should recognize our ppc6600 and make a separate section for us where we can test and update our models f.o.c.
I'm hopeing that if and when there is an update, wm2005 is included but I dont think it will be. It will happen. Eventually someone will sort it all out, and then we can live in wm2005 land happily ever after.

Well I bit the bullet and only signed a one year contract with Telus, that's as much as I can stomach with them. As far as EVDO goes I am not so sure. Telus is on strike so not much will happen and they are projecting this might go until 2006. What I would really like to see is to have them finalize the Number Portability business and then I could take my number and go GSM. I think that is the best option we have right now for getting WM5 on a device in Canada aside from I-mate and Rogeres.

did you update your ext rom? where did the .115 come from?
gimee gimee gimee!!!!!
is ther any improvement over the .00 release?
-cope

copenhagen said:
did you update your ext rom? where did the .115 come from?
gimee gimee gimee!!!!!
is ther any improvement over the .00 release?
-cope
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Actually all that was already installed on the device and I have dumped it here if you want to grab it. Should be in wiki.

new and seeking advice

Hello,
I've been reading up on the kaiser for a little while now and think the specs are amazing.
I've been meaning to get a new phone for a while now, upgrade from my samsung e715. I'm thinking about getting the t-mobile wing as a replacement.
I was wondering if this is a feasible idea, I mean, with the possibility of at&t getting the kaiser, should I wait for that to unlock it?
Will T-mobile be getting a nicer/better version of the p4550 when/if there 3G network goes up?
Just seeking some input, and any would be much appreciated. Thank you

Yea... upgrade! WM will be a bit of a shock to you, it's quite different than what you're used to in terms of mobile telephony. The Kaiser would be a great piece of technology for anyone to own, however the price tag may not be everyone's cup of tea. Personally I plan to get an unlocked one for some 800 dollars. ATT may offer it for 500 with 2 year plan. As for unlocking, if you have international travel ahead of you in a near future then I believe there is a SIM unlock solution already. If not, I wouldn't worry about it until you need it unlocked.

oh well i was thinking of buying the at&t 8925 and unlocking and using on t-mobile. I don't know if it will be capable of syncing with T-mobile's 3G when they have it up and running, like what band they use and whatnot.

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oh well i was thinking of buying the at&t 8925 and unlocking and using on t-mobile. I don't know if it will be capable of syncing with T-mobile's 3G when they have it up and running, like what band they use and whatnot.
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if i were you i wouldnt get the wing. its too slow, plus on a lot of them theres a memory problems. i used to have t-mobile but when i switched to cingular i found out they're much better and the signal is much better. also you get more minutes for the same price t-mobile offers.
so right now i have a t-mobile sda unlocked for cingular, just waiting for the kaiser. I dont know how long it will take before there is a Kaiser Sim unlock utility, so you can either get an unlocked htc kaiser or the AT&T Tilt (their calling the 8925 that now) and wait for a sim unlock utility.

think it would work on the t-mobile 3g network? on the 1700 band?

Best place to purchase a KAISER in the USA?

Hello everyone,
I'm debating on upgrading to a Kaiser in the very near future, and I was just looking for suggestions as to where people in the USA have bought their Kaisers. Whenever I do google searches, I find plenty of places that sell them oversees, primarily in the U.K. so my questions is, where are U.S. owners getting their Kaiser's from?
I have T-mobile service, and am not interested in the AT&T Tilt, which is apparently a version of the Kaiser? I'm looking for the full blown version of the Kaiser, with the GPS and whatever other goodies are included.
Thank you for your help,

IIRC, the only difference really between the Tilt and the Kaiser, is that the Kaiser contains a frontside camera.

duprade said:
Hello everyone,
I'm debating on upgrading to a Kaiser in the very near future, and I was just looking for suggestions as to where people in the USA have bought their Kaisers. Whenever I do google searches, I find plenty of places that sell them oversees, primarily in the U.K. so my questions is, where are U.S. owners getting their Kaiser's from?
I have T-mobile service, and am not interested in the AT&T Tilt, which is apparently a version of the Kaiser? I'm looking for the full blown version of the Kaiser, with the GPS and whatever other goodies are included.
Thank you for your help,
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Uh, the Tilt has the GPS and other "goodies". If you wanna add stuff later or flash a new ROM, go to an at&t store and get one.

well, I would much rather get an actual Kaiser than a Tilt. That's why I was looking for feedback from American users who have Kaiser's and where to get them through American dealers. I would much rather order it nationally, than ordering one from oversees if possible.

try amazon.... thats the only place i can really think of...
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-P4550-II-...sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1202781885&sr=8-1
good luck

They only sell tilts in the U.S. Tilts are greatly cheaper than Tytn IIs. Only place you could get the phone you want in the U.S. is some black market.

Why would you want the Kaiser over the Tilt? You can't make video calls yet here in the states so the front facing cam is the only difference.

Not sure why you feel that you have to have the Kaiser. The only thing I'm missing is the front camera - which is a VGA cam meant for the video phone feature which you cannot use in the US. Played with the Kaiser before I bought the Tilt and decided the extra $500+ wasn't even close to worth it (you can find subsidized Tilts for well under $200 - got mine for $150 after rebate in early November). Obviously your decision to make, but I am not missing out on anything but the higher expense. I flash, I cook, I TomTom, I take pictures and video, I get HSDPA virtually everywhere I go.
Try AT&T Premiere and Egghead/Amazon for Tilt deals to help you compare against the Kaisers you find. FWIW.

ebay
a little surprised that there are about 5 replies and not one mentioned ebay.
wouldn't that give you the most options?
Just type "kaiser -tilt" on ebay which will ensure that no entry with tilt is shown (may also leave out some other kaisers but atleast will get you started). I did a search and 9 came up.
Good luck.

I got my Kaiser from an importer off of ebay. I was a very early adopter so I paid a lot for it, but I too wanted a real HTC Kaiser and not a ATT Tilt.

(you can find subsidized Tilts for well under $200 - got mine for $150 after rebate in early November).
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Are you meaning you can find it for $200 with a plan? Because I can't find it unlocked for less than about $350......

Moutaineer10 said:
Are you meaning you can find it for $200 with a plan? Because I can't find it unlocked for less than about $350......
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You don't need to buy it unlocked already. Those are scams since its free to unlock. Buy a Tilt, come here and unlock it for free. You'll need to read how when you get it. Use search too.

http://www.expansys-usa.com/
http://www.expansys-usa.com/p.aspx?i=151727
Never had a problem with them.
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Unless you're particularly averse to signing up for a new 2-year contract with AT&T, you can pick up a Tilt for really cheap.
Just ordered mine today for $54.99 (refurbished, w/ 2-year contract but only for the basic voice plan ~$40, using A&T coupon codes I got off the internet).

I paid $370 (including shipping) for my tilt. Bought from ebay. Then i unlocked and customized, etc.....

ronfin44 said:
You don't need to buy it unlocked already. Those are scams since its free to unlock. Buy a Tilt, come here and unlock it for free. You'll need to read how when you get it. Use search too.
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I still don't see any that are locked for cheaper than $300.....

duprade said:
Hello everyone,
I'm debating on upgrading to a Kaiser in the very near future, and I was just looking for suggestions as to where people in the USA have bought their Kaisers. Whenever I do google searches, I find plenty of places that sell them oversees, primarily in the U.K. so my questions is, where are U.S. owners getting their Kaiser's from?
I have T-mobile service, and am not interested in the AT&T Tilt, which is apparently a version of the Kaiser? I'm looking for the full blown version of the Kaiser, with the GPS and whatever other goodies are included.
Thank you for your help,
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Umm there's almost no difference between AT&T TIlt and Kaiser. TIlt has everything (yes, including GPS) but front-side camera (which u dont need in US, frankly).
If I were u, I'd dump T-mobile and switch to AT&T. I got a brand new (not refurb.) Tilt with 2 year contract for $150 USD. Can't beat that. Besides, I get unlimited HSDPA for $20/month (I get around 50-60 KB/sec where I work).

Got the Tilt from ebay shipped for ~$400. I asked my friend to get an unlocked code from ATT so it is free.

i agree with DarkDvr, ditch tmo, and get a tilt from at&t. i got a refurbed one for $150......the second camera is not worth that extra 400-500 imo. besides, if you really wanted that front camera........it may be possible to just plug one in, just like how some ppl were doing it with their 8525, but that all depends if the port is there on the tilt, i havent looked into that yet, so i dont know

Ive been with T-mobile for about 15 yrs.... so I don't want to just ditch tmo.
I don't know why I feel so inclined to buy an actual HTC than the AT&T Tilt... maybe it's a pride thing! Don't want my phone to have at&t all over it ... just HTC

US 3G Touch Diamond is here

Hi guys and gals, we just got our hands on the unlocked GSM version of the Touch Diamond for the US, with US (err, AT&T) 3G. Here's my first look: http://www.mobiletechreview.com/phones/US-3G-HTC-Touch-Diamond.htm .
It has 850/1900MHz HSDPA, and is quad band GSM. Short summary: no front-facing camera, matte back and bigger battery.
- Lisa

Has anyone been able to confirm whether the DIAM100 has hardware that can support the US/AT&T 3G?

nice, thats awesome!

No, the US version is the DIAM110, the DIAM100 won't do US 3G.
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Has anyone been able to confirm whether the DIAM100 has hardware that can support the US/AT&T 3G?
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Sigh.. A different version (DIAM110) really breaks my last hope. I am sure many of us were misled to purchase the non-US model; with chaotic origins from India, Europe, HK, etc, without knowing (1) the claimed 3G couldn't be ued in the US and (2) a US model would come as we are seeing now .. Or is it just my ignorance and mistake? .. Hope some lawers on this forum could help us trade our whatever Diamong with a US Diamond with 3G/DIAM110.. My first and last purchase with HTC for sure.

tzour said:
Sigh.. I am sure many of us were misled to purchase the non-US model; with chaotic origins from India, Europe, HK, etc, without knowing (1) the claimed 3G couldn't be ued in the US and (2) a US model as we are seeing now will come at a later date.. Or is it just my ignorance and mistake? .. Hope some lawers on this forum could help us trade our whatever Diamong with a US Diamond with 3G/DIAM110..
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Unfortunately it was a known fact that the Diamonds sold prior to the actual US release were not intended for the US and the specifications clearly showed (htc.com) that it was not US 3G capable. Problem is there are so many bad resellers that will tell you anything to get you to buy from them. I also have noticed that a lot of the on-line resellers dont list the correct information for all phones however HTC is not at fault for that.

And at the original launch of the Diamond in London back in June, HTC did state that a US version would follow in a few months. We posted that in our news section at the time. Of course, given the often long lag before we see a US version, many folks were skeptical it would really come this soon.

I would love to be directed to any statement on the htc.com website that clearly told the visitors that the Touch Diamond doesn't have 3G in the US.. I have to confess that I noted LATER that the htc.com content is country dependent, but I haven't been promoted to go through all contries listed on their map before I knew that 3g in the US is a catch..

There is no FM
The article states two things I am not enjoying at the moment: there is no front-facing camera, and there is no FM.
Also, it says that a hack could bring the FM back... is it true?

tzour said:
I would love to be directed to any statement on the htc.com website that clearly told the visitors that the Touch Diamond doesn't have 3G in the US.. I have to confess that I noted LATER that the htc.com content is country dependent, but I haven't been promoted to go through all contries listed on their map before I knew that 3g in the US is a catch..
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But if you look at the specifications it doesnt list the US 3G Bands. You would have to know which bands are used in the US to catch this. The point here though is HTC has not marketed this in the US. I believe all of the retailers of the foreign HTC phones sell the phones without the blessing of HTC. The problem is there are a lot of suckers here in the US with no patience and make the resellers rich by paying exorbitant fees for phones that were not intended for the US market. I am included in the list of suckers.

"Network HSDPA/WCDMA: Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Up to 384 kbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Tri-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: Europe/Asia: 900/1800/1900 MHz"
http://www.htc.com/europe/product.aspx?id=46646
That's from HTC's Euro site. No mention there of US bands, just Europe and Asia.
Their US site doesn't list the Touch Diamond at all, since they don't offer it here. Though I'm sure they'll update the site to add the Sprint Diamond, and thereafter the US 3G GSM version once they officially announce it.

I said a hack *might* re-enable FM. The good coders here can help with that more than I can, I'm sure. I'd like to get the FM cab from the Euro Diamond to see if that works.
GSen works just fine though . Happily rotating anywhere I please.
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The article states two things I am not enjoying at the moment: there is no front-facing camera, and there is no FM.
Also, it says that a hack could bring the FM back... is it true?
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pdagal,
Good review. Is there any notable difference in performance between the unlocked GSM version and the Sprint version, or do they basically perform the same?

Thanks . There's more to follow. I'd say the Sprint version is still a little bit faster. The Sprint version has more obvious bugs though (call send button doesn't always bring up the dialer screen, landscape mode extends to apps it shouldn't support after launching a landscape app). I wouldn't complain about the landscape bug, but the device slows down when it goes into this "extended" landscape support mode.

pdagal said:
Thanks . There's more to follow. I'd say the Sprint version is still a little bit faster. The Sprint version has more obvious bugs though (call send button doesn't always bring up the dialer screen, landscape mode extends to apps it shouldn't support after launching a landscape app). I wouldn't complain about the landscape bug, but the device slows down when it goes into this "extended" landscape support mode.
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pdagal - say you could have either one for your personal phone and you didnt mind going with Sprint or ATT. Which would you pick and why?

I'd like to play with them both a few days longer before issuing a verdict . Right now, I'd lean toward the Sprint model, though CDMA really isn't my thing (can't live without SIM swapping). The Sprint version is a bit faster, TeleNav (aka Sprint Navigation) is very good if you don't mind a monthly fee, and Sprint TV is moderately entertaining. But I'll try to remember to post back in a few more days after I've had time to torture them both more.

pdagal said:
I'd like to play with them both a few days longer before issuing a verdict . Right now, I'd lean toward the Sprint model, though CDMA really isn't my thing (can't live without SIM swapping). The Sprint version is a bit faster, TeleNav (aka Sprint Navigation) is very good if you don't mind a monthly fee, and Sprint TV is moderately entertaining. But I'll try to remember to post back in a few more days after I've had time to torture them both more.
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Thanks - Those are the two reasons I have been going back and forth in my head as to which way to go. The only two reasons I still keep thinking about Sprint is for the navigation software incorporated and having the Sprint TV service (although I do have a Slingbox). I used the TeleNav on a Instinct for a few days and found it very nice.

tzour said:
Hope some lawers on this forum could help us trade our whatever Diamong with a US Diamond with 3G/DIAM110.. My first and last purchase with HTC for sure.
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This is so bloody typical. You go out of you to buy a phone that is not sold in your country and then lawyer up to soothe over your ego.
Now youre going to blame the manufacturer and the shop owners for not treating you like the 6 year-old you seem to be and force them to eat the loss for your impatience.
If i was the judge sitting on this one i'd dismiss the case with costs to you.

I have a 110 on ATT in USA and find EDGE surprisingly useable. It is quite easy to use WIFI for large downloads. I can use for real time GPS maps (Google or Live). I was going to buy US version for 3G but don't think I need to.
The phone was sold IN the US through Amazon.com. No mention of it being Euro or no 3 G for US. I took a chance hoping a ROM would fix it but don't care now because it works so well.
Cheers.

In my particular case, the diam100 was advertised (by the importer) as 3G-enabled for my country. As it failed to comply, I'll return it and get a US when available. My DIAM100 is safe, packed and ready for a swap.

Just got a Stellar

Hi,
i have just bought an O2 Stellar (unlocked) from ebay. Until now i have always got my phones direct form the network so a used phone is a first for me. My current device is a Tytn (TM Vario II)
What do i need to do when it arrives in order to get it working with my Tmobile SIM?
I intend on trying some new roms on it after xmas, are there any that favour gps performance? i am hoping to do a bit of geocaching.

ZootHornRollo said:
What do i need to do when it arrives in order to get it working with my Tmobile SIM?
I intend on trying some new roms on it after xmas, are there any that favour gps performance? i am hoping to do a bit of geocaching.
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Welcome to xda-dev. The first thing you should do as a new person here is to read the wiki for Kaisers (which includes the XDA Stellar, O2s variant), also the sticky posts here. There's lots of info there that'll be helpful. I've never owned a Stellar, just the generic HTC version but I would imagine unless it's already been unlocked by the previous owner, it'll be sim locked to O2 so you may need to unlock it. The simple way to see if this is the case is to try your T-Mobile sim in it. I think it'll depend where you reside as to whether other changes will be required because not all T-Mobile network characteristics are the same and some locations have specialist/uncommon settings.
As far as ROMs with good GPS performance go, the current UK World Wide English Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM has very poor GPS performance here in the UK compared to the original Windows Mobile 6.0 ROM and that seems to be fairly common with many of the WM 6.1 ROMs although different radios teld to make a difference according to reports here. Again it'll depend where you reside.

hi,
the device had better be unlocked.. it is advertised as so! It is claimed it is only 6 months old and came unlocked from the network. I guess being only six months old it will have a 6.1 rom already on it so i'll see how i get on wth that first then think about putting the older rom on it.
i am in UK, East Lothian to be a little more precice.

hi,
i am really struggling to get my phone to work for internet settings for t-mobile.
can anyone tell me the password for tmobile internet or is it user specific?

I just found this FANTASTIC thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388740
anyone needing phone setting should go here!!!