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OZ IM aim tilt issues

Is it me or does the OZ IM client that comes with the AT&T Tilt not work right when you talk to other people?
My friend has the real AIM client on his Mogul and I tried to chat with him via OZ IM and all he sees is blank messages.
I tried Agile and it works great. I have to buy it though, so...I tried the AIM client (from the UK site) and it works too, but it's crap because the notifications are bad and it seems like an old program.
Any ideas?

its bc Oz IM uses text messaging instead of data and the mobile version of aim doesnt support text messaging.

Which IM service you using? MSN, AIM? I don't use AIM or Yahoo, but I do use MSN form time to time. Windows Live works just fine for that, and uses data, not SMS.

I wanted to use AIM. I have an unlimited data plan and that's the reason I wanted to use data instead of SMS. Any way to make this client work? Don't want to buy Agile.

MakaveliReturns said:
I wanted to use AIM. I have an unlimited data plan and that's the reason I wanted to use data instead of SMS. Any way to make this client work? Don't want to buy Agile.
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Yup, dont use the OZ client. Download Palringo or Octrotalk.. Both free. both will work with AIM and all the other clients and use data.

drellmsu said:
Yup, dont use the OZ client. Download Palringo or Octrotalk.. Both free. both will work with AIM and all the other clients and use data.
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Thanks. I gave the Palgrino app a try, which one do you recommend?
Works!!

Palgrino is working for me. its quick and stays connected even when minimized.

I use Slick. It works really well and uses data.

Hi:
Do any of these have smilies?
I just installed Palringo, and it looks very nice, but no smilies.
Thanks!
PS: I don't mind paying for it, if it has a nice enough interface, and smilies. Palringo looks amazing, it's exactly what I am looking for except for the smilies.

Beejive had it on my blackberry untill i got the tilt. works like a charm for me and it shows notifications and smilies and supports all clients
http://www.beejive.com/wm6/index.php

The problem in my eyes with the applications that use DATA connections instead of SMS, is that while logged in, now my Tilt has to maintain a live data connection with the network.
What I like about an SMS version is that no matter where I am, 3G, Edge, it just works over SMS. True it's not as "responsive" as a data connection, but it's mobile IM. What do you expect?
On that note, since I'm running aftermarket cooked ROM, does anyone have the OZ IM client that the tilt shipped with available?

Instant Messaging, is OctroTalk the best?

Looking to use AOL IM primarily.. is octrotalk my best choice for Wm6?

I liked Palringo more.
OctroTalk made you register your yahoo as a jabber account or something, so after I did that some mysterious service kept logging into my account even if I wasn't there. So I went and changed the Yahoo IM password, and stopped using OctroTalk.

thanks i will use palringo

anyone have any other suggestions??

IM+ is nice, but its not free.

IMO, IM+ is the best out there, but yes, it's quite expensive for a WM app...

IMO, IM+ is the best out there, but yes, it's quite expensive for a WM app...I like Agile Messenger also. Its not free either, but cheaper, I think. And it has a nice long trial to decide first.
http://www.agilemobile.com/

thanks for the responses, i will try palringo and i dont like it i will buy IM+

mrkoven said:
thanks for the responses, i will try palringo and i dont like it i will buy IM+
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I just installed IM+ and am very impressed with it. Worth the money.

Can we do Voice chat in palringo with online yahoo/gmail contacts

I'm new to IM on WM devices (not new to WM or IM though, just the combination), and wanted to know if any of these allow you to stay logged in and appear available with the phone in standby mode, and then will notify you when a message arrives.
Thanks.

pda_crazy said:
Can we do Voice chat in palringo with online yahoo/gmail contacts
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You can send Voice IM with Palringo to any of your contacts. they will receive an IM that has a link to the Palringo site to click on to get your voice message. While it can be a pain (for the person not running Palringo) I've had chats with a contact running Palringo where they are Voice IM'ing me, and I'm typing text back to them.
If you are asking if you can do 2 way voice chat (sort of like skype) then no, Palringo is an IM style Voice. But whats nice about this is the receiver can listen to your message when its convenient for them (like with IM, you read it when its convenient) then respond via voice or text.

Slick by Lonley Cat Games. It's currently free.
http://www.lonelycatgames.com/?app=slick

I used OctroTalk on my Dash when I only used WiFi. It doesn't seem to work over AT&T's MEdia Net because of the proxy.

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Can we do Voice chat in palringo with online yahoo/gmail contacts
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Frankly, guys, I don't understand why you don't read the Wiki before asking. There is a FULL review of Palringo in there ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...tiplatform instant messenger client: Palringo ), where I've answered ALL questions like these.
It can't chat over VoIP but supports single-directional voice clips. Nothing else. If you need VoIP / real chat, get Fring, it supports full VoIP with Skype, MSN , Google Talk and standard SIP. Note that OctroTalk also supports Google Talk. The latter no longer supports Yahoo Messenger – earlier betas didn’t gray out “Call” with YM clients.
I've written a review of Fring at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...WM Standard) info + Fring review + other news

SacTilt said:
I'm new to IM on WM devices (not new to WM or IM though, just the combination), and wanted to know if any of these allow you to stay logged in and appear available with the phone in standby mode, and then will notify you when a message arrives.
Thanks.
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All of them do. Read the IM Bible - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=The Windows Mobile Instant Messaging Bible
Also check out the even newer reviews at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Instant Messaging, VoIP, other p2p communication

Menneisyys said:
Frankly, guys, I don't understand why you don't read the Wiki before asking. There is a FULL review of Palringo in there ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...tiplatform instant messenger client: Palringo ), where I've answered ALL questions like these.
It can't chat over VoIP but supports single-directional voice clips. Nothing else. If you need VoIP / real chat, get Fring, it supports full VoIP with Skype, MSN , Google Talk and standard SIP. Note that OctroTalk also supports Google Talk. The latter no longer supports Yahoo Messenger – earlier betas didn’t gray out “Call” with YM clients.
I've written a review of Fring at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...WM Standard) info + Fring review + other news
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Thanks Buddy.
Your review links have answered my all the questions. Hats off to you...
Just One last silly question:--
As you mentioned while installing Fring.. "Make sure you let it also run the CAB file so that it is installed".
My question is that will we be having an option to choose the path while installing cab. So that i can install it on my storage card instead on phone memory.
Actually it's a generic question and due to performance i want to install all my cab files in my storage card....
Thanks for your help.....

pda_crazy said:
My question is that will we be having an option to choose the path while installing cab. So that i can install it on my storage card instead on phone memory.
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Yup, you will: WM5+ asks the destination when you directly click a CAB file.
However, Fring is auto-starting and the memory card MAY not be available during booting, which MAY result in a boot-time error message. Therefore, if you encounter these problems after resets, make sure you (re)install it to the built-in storage instead.
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Actually it's a generic question and due to performance i want to install all my cab files in my storage card....
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Under WM5+, on models not suffering from compaction problems (and the Kaiser is one of them), it's no longer necessary to keep the built-in storage clean and install / copy as much stuff to the card as possible.

www.fring.com is also a great IM/voice-enabled client.
(And free !!)

I'm using the last freeware version of Agile. Still works fine. Recurring charges are ridiculous for an IM client, especially when you can get great open-source apps like Adium for absolutely no charge. It's legit, since nobody can force you to upgrade your install of their app.
I tried IM+. It was OK but not that great. Mundu refused to let me run their current version despite selling me a "lifetime" license for their PalmOS version a year or two ago, so I not only refuse to pay their extortion fee but recommend against using their software. Their "lifetime" license ... isn't.

Tilt During 30 Day Trial - Please Help

Greets,
After following the Tilt pre-release to the present day, I have finally broken down and gotten one (yay!)
I was not an AT&T subscriber and so I would like to test out AT&T's service as well as my new phone, and do not want to do anything which would get in the way of the return, if necessary.
So ... I had a few questions:
1) I know I should not flash to a new ROM, but can I still do the hard reboot/soft reboot to remove the AT&T bloat, without jeopardizing the return?
2) If I do remove the AT&T bloat, how do I configure the phone to access the web, etc.
3) Can I install programs?
4) If I can install programs, which AIM client can I use to avoid hitting my 1500 maximum text messages.
Any responses or advice is greatly appreciated!

Answers:
1. Yes, you can do the hard reset/soft reset and not worry about it. If you need to return the phone, just do a hard reset and allow the customizations to install.
2. It'll be configured automatically, you don't have to worry about this.
3. Yes, I have not found a program yet that doesn't install.
4. For IM in general, I use Fring or Palringo, both of which are free and work over data, not text messages. Fring also works as a Skype client, so you can make Skype (or Google Talk, MSN, etc.) internet calls with it.
Hope this helps.

No AIM
snooginsguy,
Thanks for the info ... I take it (from their sites) neither Fring nor Palringo do AOL Instant Messenger ... am I correct?
Thanks

jdmba said:
Thanks for the info ... I take it (from their sites) neither Fring nor Palringo do AOL Instant Messenger ... am I correct?
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Palringo does support AIM.
What Instant Messaging Services Does Palringo Support?

Yeah, and I can't tell if Fring does from what it offers as services on the device (I don't use AIM) but there are ICQ, SIP, and Twitter options if those have anything to do with AIM.

Windows Live for Windows Mobile....How I'm being billed....

I been reading other threads and i cannot find an answer. I even called att and they were no help.
I installed the windows live for windows mobile version 10.6.0034.0800 fixed.
When i'm using this messenger, how i'm being billed. Data? or Text message?
I have a unlimited data plan, so i'm hoping i'm not being charged per message. Can anyone help me with this question.
Thanks

The Tilt has Oz Messenger on it which has WLM, AOL, and Yahoo which connects via their phone network and it counts as SMS for every message you send/receive. With the Windows Live Messenger cab, it depends actually, if you are connecting through the ATT network then it's considered SMS but if you connect to the net Wi-Fi, no charges except whatever you pay for Wi-Fi (like pay hotspots)
Alemaker

I'm not using the oz messenger with the provided windows live. I'm using another version of the messenger that i found in another thread.
10.6.0034.0800 fixed. version

best way to go then. The Oz Messenger only connects through the ATT network whereas the Windows Live Messenger cab you installed can use either the ATT network or Wi-Fi.That's what I'm using also. Here's another little catch. If you connect using the ATT network(which is then an SMS for each message) if you start a conversation with someone internationally, you are charged international text rates.
Found that out the hard way when a friend in Germany started a convo with me!!

Alemaker said:
With the Windows Live Messenger cab, it depends actually, if you are connecting through the ATT network then it's considered SMS but if you connect to the net Wi-Fi, no charges except whatever you pay for Wi-Fi (like pay hotspots)
Alemaker
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Seriously? I assumed the live messenger cab would use the data connection, not SMS. Does it really send via SMS when on network and wifi when off?

Alemaker said:
best way to go then. The Oz Messenger only connects through the ATT network whereas the Windows Live Messenger cab you installed can use either the ATT network or Wi-Fi.That's what I'm using also. Here's another little catch. If you connect using the ATT network(which is then an SMS for each message) if you start a conversation with someone internationally, you are charged international text rates.
Found that out the hard way when a friend in Germany started a convo with me!!
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Well....
I'm screwed, thanks for your help.
anyone else ?

Unless they changed it really recently, I tested it-on ATT=SMS, I barely text anyone and when my friend I.M.'ed me from Germany, all those showed on my bill as international SMS-on Wi-Fi=no charges
That's why I dumped Oz Messenger

are you still using the windows messenger cab?

Yup I'm using the exact one you listed. I just try not to use it while I'm on the ATT network cuz I only have the 200 message plan but it doesn't matter to me as alot of times I'm in a area with Wi-Fi so I just disconnect the ATT data connection and connect via Wi-Fi

gai-jin said:
Seriously? I assumed the live messenger cab would use the data connection, not SMS. Does it really send via SMS when on network and wifi when off?
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It's easy to check,
Just start a conversation with someone using Windows Live Messenger on your phone and write down the exact time and date then check your next bill. All data and texts are time stamped on the bill.

Alemaker said:
It's easy to check,
Just start a conversation with someone using Windows Live Messenger on your phone and write down the exact time and date then check your next bill. All data and texts are time stamped on the bill.
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So as long as i use wifi i dont have to pay right?
and how do u disconnect the att connection?

correct; and just click on the 3G or Edge icon and a small menu will show up with a disconnect option button, if you are using a cooked ROM, then open Comm Manager directly and disconnect the data connection.

Alemaker said:
correct; and just click on the 3G or Edge icon and a small menu will show up with a disconnect option button, if you are using a cooked ROM, then open Comm Manager directly and disconnect the data connection.
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K....
Thanks

Windows Live using SMS?!? I don't use MSN messinger very often, but I don't remember it using SMS, it uses data.

the version of the messenger that i have i believe is the one the one that comes with the new windows mobile 6.1. I know that the messenger that came with my tilt uses sms messages instead of data. I guess i will be using OCTRO TALK.
Any other messenger suggestions?

GWelker62 said:
Windows Live using SMS?!? I don't use MSN messinger very often, but I don't remember it using SMS, it uses data.
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As this seems to need clarification, I spoke with ATT data tech support and per ATT, when you use an I.M. client directly ( not going to the net and using a web based I.M.) it is billed as I.M. which is text.
If you connect to the net with MediaNet and then go to WL Mobile website or Yahoo website etc. and use I.M. web-based, it is data, but directly connecting with the WLM cab or the proprietary Oz I.M., it is billed as text even though it uses the MediaNet connection.

ATT Tilt here and using the latest WL (10.6.0034.0800 fixed) and .0600 before it. On an unlimited data connection (PDA Personal Max I believe).
I use it regularly and never see any text message usage - I have read numerous postings that back that up? I'm not saying I don't believe what Alemaker is saying, I just find it hard to believe. I've just never had it use my text messages and neither have any of the other folks in my office (7 of us here with Tilt's and all using with IM).
NOTE - If you use the built in OZ IM, yes it will use sms text messages. This is not Windows Live though. It is an app that allows you to connect to the major IM networks. WL is designed to use an internet connection (IE Data, Wifi, etc.).

That's fine-I have seen billed as text them from international I.M.'s and to be honest, the CSR's at ATT gave me conflicting answers themselves, one said data, one said text and one even said billed same as e-mail(data). So that's why I contacted data tech support. And if it truly does turn out to use data-all the better. Just stating what I have seen. I don't I.M. mobile alot to begin with but just I.M.'ed someone using the WLM cab app and will look at my next bill

TCreed said:
I use it regularly and never see any text message usage - I have read numerous postings that back that up? I'm not saying I don't believe what Alemaker is saying, I just find it hard to believe. I've just never had it use my text messages and neither have any of the other folks in my office (7 of us here with Tilt's and all using with IM).
NOTE - If you use the built in OZ IM, yes it will use sms text messages. This is not Windows Live though. It is an app that allows you to connect to the major IM networks. WL is designed to use an internet connection (IE Data, Wifi, etc.).
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I agree... What the others are saying about Windows Live Mobile (replaced Mobile MSN) I can't agree with. Windows Live syncs my Hotmail and has a mobile MSN messinger client. And so far I haven't seen it use SMS for IMs.

knight2424 said:
I been reading other threads and i cannot find an answer. I even called att and they were no help.
I installed the windows live for windows mobile version 10.6.0034.0800 fixed.
When i'm using this messenger, how i'm being billed. Data? or Text message?
I have a unlimited data plan, so i'm hoping i'm not being charged per message. Can anyone help me with this question.
Thanks
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if you are using that version of WLM then i can garuntee you that you are using data and not text. There are several clients that support WLM including oz messenger that use texts, but the windows mobile version you described definitely uses data.

which IM for yahoo,msn do you use?

Hi,
So far I couldn't find any yahoo or msn messenger for android. Is there any?
Which IM for yahoo, msn do you use ?
Is there any IM for android which connects directly to the yahoo/msn server (unlike meboo, ebuddy)?
Is there any messenger which supports multi gmail accounts?
Thanks in advance.

Hi there
Try Truphone or Fring

ebuddy works great

Hi Msn is working flawlessly for me, although i am unsure if it supports yahoo messenger.
There is also an app called NimBuzz which supports windows live, yahoo, AIM, Skype, Facebook, Gtalk, My space, ICQ.. and soo much more...
Check it out.. i use it mostly for Skype Calls but everything else seems to work amazing when i first set it up.

There are also several apps that work without extra Server.
I'm using ICQ and MSN. I can't say anything about yahoo...
By far the best App I have tested was IM+. Too sad it costs way too much...
The built-in t-mobile app also connects directly. I used it for several days. works fine (ICQ is the same protocol as AIM)
but now I'm on Meebo. I like to have the same History on Phone and PC.

the "IM" app that comes on CM roms (i believe its the T-Mobile one) is a great app that works great, only downside is on Rogers network you cannot connect as it will try and verify by sim. You will need to be on wifi to use "IM" but i still love this app
i also use Nimbuzz but have had some issues as of late with it dropping (could be the phone too )

hi yahoo
there is a hi yahoo app. works well for me, but right now i go back & forth between meebo & ebuddy.

I just dun like the way all these messenger design. These company can make better layout, fonts and feature for Iphone and why not Android? Just disappointed.
IM+ (the conversation layout very very bad. Words too small can't change font and stupid color)
Palringo (All the buddy(contact) squeeze into one. Very difficult to locate friend)
Meebo ( I hate to login meebo inorder to use MSN/Yahoo, buddy layout very bad)
MSN Droid (Not bad so far. Only support MSN and no yahoo.)
ebuddy ( Another one need ebuddy account. conversation fonts too small)
Android IM ( So far so good but will disconnect if phone go to sleep. Maybe its design to work with SMS)

You guys forgot BuddyMob
Plus: You can choose your own Messenger Picture, MultiLogin (connect from your homecomputer AND your Android Phone the same time) is supported, swipe function is included
Minus: No Ring for MSN, no Send Files, no smileys
Used it for months, now i'm looking for something new

eBuddy works for me... careful with gtalk though - it sets your status to an ad.

On the MyTouch 3G there is an almost sort of half-decent app which includes MSN, Yahoo and I think it is AIM. At least you get to see your buddies online and it is over the data network, but as mentioned already you have to be on wi-fi to sign in unless you are on T-Mobile's data network as the phone uses only T-Mo's SIM info (and wifi) to let you sign in. The question is, is there a way to tweak the app so that you can use any carrier and still sign in from the data on your SIM, and how can this be done? I am nearly sure it can be. Can anyone help?

I've been using meebo without any problems.

anyone knows which IM app can do group chats? like in a conversation with more than 2 person? I know ebuddy can't do that... it's really frustrating!

I've found that when using ANY im program it's hard NOT to get dc'd. I have settled on using msn live which is free from the marketplace.it still dc's every now and then but at least now I can have a direct shortcut to msn on my desktop instead of just a general IM shortcut. hope this helps.

I found a Windows Live app (plainly called MESSENGER) on Android Market. It is quite good indeed! I installed it on my Hero and MyTouch 3G After a few days it would not function on the Hero - only force close whenever I launched the app. I uninstalled it from the Hero thereafter. Still works on my MyTouch 3G though. I cannot find it on Android Market anymore - not sure why not.

I use QQ!!!!!!Hoho!!

msn has an official app called MSN Droid, its pretty sick
and they were saying something about a yahoo one coming out soon

try nimbuzz
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