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OZ IM aim tilt issues

Is it me or does the OZ IM client that comes with the AT&T Tilt not work right when you talk to other people?
My friend has the real AIM client on his Mogul and I tried to chat with him via OZ IM and all he sees is blank messages.
I tried Agile and it works great. I have to buy it though, so...I tried the AIM client (from the UK site) and it works too, but it's crap because the notifications are bad and it seems like an old program.
Any ideas?

its bc Oz IM uses text messaging instead of data and the mobile version of aim doesnt support text messaging.

Which IM service you using? MSN, AIM? I don't use AIM or Yahoo, but I do use MSN form time to time. Windows Live works just fine for that, and uses data, not SMS.

I wanted to use AIM. I have an unlimited data plan and that's the reason I wanted to use data instead of SMS. Any way to make this client work? Don't want to buy Agile.

MakaveliReturns said:
I wanted to use AIM. I have an unlimited data plan and that's the reason I wanted to use data instead of SMS. Any way to make this client work? Don't want to buy Agile.
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Yup, dont use the OZ client. Download Palringo or Octrotalk.. Both free. both will work with AIM and all the other clients and use data.

drellmsu said:
Yup, dont use the OZ client. Download Palringo or Octrotalk.. Both free. both will work with AIM and all the other clients and use data.
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Thanks. I gave the Palgrino app a try, which one do you recommend?
Works!!

Palgrino is working for me. its quick and stays connected even when minimized.

I use Slick. It works really well and uses data.

Hi:
Do any of these have smilies?
I just installed Palringo, and it looks very nice, but no smilies.
Thanks!
PS: I don't mind paying for it, if it has a nice enough interface, and smilies. Palringo looks amazing, it's exactly what I am looking for except for the smilies.

Beejive had it on my blackberry untill i got the tilt. works like a charm for me and it shows notifications and smilies and supports all clients
http://www.beejive.com/wm6/index.php

The problem in my eyes with the applications that use DATA connections instead of SMS, is that while logged in, now my Tilt has to maintain a live data connection with the network.
What I like about an SMS version is that no matter where I am, 3G, Edge, it just works over SMS. True it's not as "responsive" as a data connection, but it's mobile IM. What do you expect?
On that note, since I'm running aftermarket cooked ROM, does anyone have the OZ IM client that the tilt shipped with available?

aim cab

can someone post the aol instant messanger cab from the att tilt ext rom or from anywhere else for that matter. thanks

Lol... I am trying to figure out how to get the Tilt AIM back too after cutting out the AT&T installed apps.

try this one http://rapidshare.com/files/73072488/aim_2.0_for_PPC_by_aagung.rar.html

Original AIM. MSN, Yahoo Cab from ATT?
Anyone have the cab that can install the original chat features from the ATT version of the tilt?

jesseasi said:
Anyone have the cab that can install the original chat features from the ATT version of the tilt?
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look here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=XDA-LiveTiltAddonFiles

Do you mean the OZ app? You can download that off medianet.

How can I connect to these built-in messengers using wifi instead of data connection?

its in the Kaiser Cab collection fount here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332438
its the OZ_Instant_messenger plugin on this page: http://www.cinetsystems.com/xda/index.php?path=Kaiser+Cab+Collections/
and to save time i attached the cab
EDIT:
raca in the CommManager turn on the wifi if you already havent, then go into settings > connections > wifi and add your stuff in there

does anybody know if this app uses txt messages or data?

I can't say for certain, but the TMobile MDA has a similar app by the same name, and that one uses sms.....

The AT&T app uses SMS messages.
If you're looking for one that uses 3G or WiFi, you will need to shell out some $$ for Agile Messenger or another similar program.

about tmobile aim oz working with tilt as txt msging
just incase if anyone was wondering about tmobile & this (i tried this forever) It doesn't work. I tried all of the cabs. I spoke to someone who worked at a store and they said as soon as my phone was unlocked, oz messenger aim will not work anymore... (used to have a tmo dash and my aim really did stop working after unlocking it) it would be awesome if someone could figure this one out..

I use agilemobile for AIM, ICQ, Google-chat and more.
Pretty impressive BTW

I was thinking that perhaps the problem is that I have the cingular hidden proxy disable. Can anyone comment on this? You can just put a proxy into the settings of AIM alone, but I'm not sure what to enter. If someone can let me know, I'd appreciate it, and will test it.

OZ messenger sucks I think. I use Palringo and it's free.
OZ uses SMS so for everyone "HI how you doing buddy" you send you use one text message.
To my knowledge and looking at my bill Palringo uses data and not sms.

use aim 2.0

gqstatus0685 said:
OZ messenger sucks I think. I use Palringo and it's free.
OZ uses SMS so for everyone "HI how you doing buddy" you send you use one text message.
To my knowledge and looking at my bill Palringo uses data and not sms.
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Your right, palringo uses data. But it still has major flaws. If you log in more than 5 or 6 times in a row it doesn't allow you to log back in again. Which is really stupid, because why would I be AIM/Yahoo/whatever if no one is online? So I sign off.
Idk, I still use it but it sucks.

I use OctroTalk works fine for me
free all in one IM client has AIM, ICQ, Yahoo, MSN, Jabber, and Google talk

rico002 said:
try this one http://rapidshare.com/files/73072488/aim_2.0_for_PPC_by_aagung.rar.html
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i tried this cab a while back and it didnt work

i still can not IM

Blackberry Connect

I have the Tilt and I was wondering is their anyway I can have both Media Net and Balckberry running at the same time? Everytime i am messages or browser the web my bb disconnects. Any way around this?

No, the Tilt can only connect to one APN at a time. MediaNet or blackberry.net

eh? so if i were to use ONLY the bb connect service for email, i'll get disconnected from browsing etc every time an email gets pushed out to me?
another question. i'm currently pulling down 4 pop3 accounts into their individual email "folders" on my tilt via default pocket outlook polling setup. can blackberry connect do the same with regards to different "folders" / account?
eg: shove different account emails to their respective outlook folders vs all in one bucket?
i had a 7200 series blackberry *years* ago using bb internet service and regardless of how many accounts you pulled down it all got dumped into the same bucket so to speak. there was no easy way to differentiate between biz critical vs personal emails at a glance.
?? so far i havent been able to find any helpful info re bb connect online yet.

mujomojo said:
eh? so if i were to use ONLY the bb connect service for email, i'll get disconnected from browsing etc every time an email gets pushed out to me?
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No, it's the other way around. Whenever something else grabs the data link, BBConnect goes into suspend mode and will reconnect when it's released.
mujomojo said:
another question. i'm currently pulling down 4 pop3 accounts into their individual email "folders" on my tilt via default pocket outlook polling setup. can blackberry connect do the same with regards to different "folders" / account?
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I creates a separate folder for each e-mail acount. As far as I know, that's the only way it will do it.

how does it work Blackberry connect on the Kaiser ?
Do we need to install the Blackberry software ? (Blackberry connect 4).
Can we then browser the internet if my company pay for it ? (I had Blackberry connect 2 installed on an HTC Universal, I could read my emails and sync Calendar/notes/tasks but I never could browser the internet ...I never could make Black Connect 4 working on my Universal, so I don't know if I would be able to browser the internet with it).
Thanks a lot

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No, it's the other way around. Whenever something else grabs the data link, BBConnect goes into suspend mode and will reconnect when it's released.
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hrm .. not the best scenario especially if using gps via google maps or web browsing.
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I creates a separate folder for each e-mail acount. As far as I know, that's the only way it will do it.
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speaking from personal experience using blackberry connect on your wm6 device?
thanks for the responses!

dizzy33 said:
how does it work Blackberry connect on the Kaiser ?
Do we need to install the Blackberry software ? (Blackberry connect 4).
Can we then browser the internet if my company pay for it ? (I had Blackberry connect 2 installed on an HTC Universal, I could read my emails and sync Calendar/notes/tasks but I never could browser the internet ...I never could make Black Connect 4 working on my Universal, so I don't know if I would be able to browser the internet with it).
Thanks a lot
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There are a number of threads of people posting their experience with BBC on the Kaiser. Browsing works, with some limitations. But also, its possible that your company's policies can restrict some BB functionality. It all depends on the config and the plans you have. But ultimately, you canbrowse the internet, you can get your email pushed to you. The biggest issue is the data connection issue described in the last couple posts. If you want more info. Search this forum for blackberry and you will find alot of testimonial expeirence in getting it set up and using it.
Personally, I found it to be too slow, too much of a memory and battery hog. I removed it within 2 days of installing it. And the difference in performance on the Kaiser and its battery is night and day IMO.
I use Seven's beta software now for my email pushing.

Thanks a lot for your infos !

I've been running it for a little more than a week.
Cons: I noticed that sometimes my appointments don't update on the Tilt when I move it on my desktop OL calender. You need to keep as few programs running as possible or it slows the device and the battery life isn't good. I like the BB keypad better. The Tilt wakes up with the screen dim and outside it is a real problem. I've had it lock up a few times and go so slow I needed to reset.
Pros: Best of WM and BB. The BB has a poor PIM so using PocketInformant again is very nice. 3G for browsing. The disconnect-reconnect is automatic so it isn't a problem for me.
I haven't made up my mind if I going to go back to my 8800. If I wasn't using BES (corporate email) I wouldn't use the BB but that isn't my choice.
Regards-Michael G.

dizzy33 said:
how does it work Blackberry connect on the Kaiser ?
Do we need to install the Blackberry software ? (Blackberry connect 4).
Can we then browser the internet if my company pay for it ? (I had Blackberry connect 2 installed on an HTC Universal, I could read my emails and sync Calendar/notes/tasks but I never could browser the internet ...I never could make Black Connect 4 working on my Universal, so I don't know if I would be able to browser the internet with it).
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Yes, you need to install BBConnect. You want BBConnect 4. I understand that HTC makes it available on their website for Kaiser. I got mine through AT&T on a Tilt, so it was a little different. One quirk, if you got your Kaiser in North America, you have to figure out if it came from Europe or Asia to register on the HTC site. One of the major improvements in BBConnect 4 is it will suspend the blackberry connection if you access the internet using a non-blackberry browser.
You can browse the internet one of two ways. When you install the blackberry software, it also installs the blackberry browser. It will be in the blackberry folder in the programs folder. This goes through your company's system to the internet. This won't interrupt your e-mail, but the blackberry browser is rather weak.
The other way is through any other browser. However, you have to have the APN for your provider programmed in. Your provider's web site will probably have that information. Unlimited data usually comes with a blackberry data plan. So, if you can get your company to pay for a plan, that should get you internet access, even if you don't go through your company's BES system.

mujomojo said:
hrm .. not the best scenario especially if using gps via google maps or web browsing.
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That's true. You have to be careful to avoid programs that suspend bbconnect constantly.
mujomojo said:
speaking from personal experience using blackberry connect on your wm6 device?
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Yes. It's running on my Tilt.

Regardless of where your Kaiser or Tilt came from, you can follow these links to the software needed to install it, if you want it.
http://www.america.htc.com/mobile/connect/8925/
http://www.america.htc.com/connect/8925/
You need 2 pieces (get one from each link above):
1. You need the Blackberry Connect software that installs on your Kaiser/Tilt. It's a .cab file. (first link above)
2. You need the Blackberry Connect for Windows Desktop software that installs on your PC. It's a .exe file. (second link above, halfway down the page)
There's also a help file at the bottom of the second link.

WonkotheSane said:
Yes, you need to install BBConnect. You want BBConnect 4. I understand that HTC makes it available on their website for Kaiser. I got mine through AT&T on a Tilt, so it was a little different. One quirk, if you got your Kaiser in North America, you have to figure out if it came from Europe or Asia to register on the HTC site. One of the major improvements in BBConnect 4 is it will suspend the blackberry connection if you access the internet using a non-blackberry browser.
You can browse the internet one of two ways. When you install the blackberry software, it also installs the blackberry browser. It will be in the blackberry folder in the programs folder. This goes through your company's system to the internet. This won't interrupt your e-mail, but the blackberry browser is rather weak.
The other way is through any other browser. However, you have to have the APN for your provider programmed in. Your provider's web site will probably have that information. Unlimited data usually comes with a blackberry data plan. So, if you can get your company to pay for a plan, that should get you internet access, even if you don't go through your company's BES system.
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Thanks a lot for these informations, that's everything I needed to know !

jomo25 said:
Regardless of where your Kaiser or Tilt came from, you can follow these links to the software needed to install it, if you want it.
http://www.america.htc.com/mobile/connect/8925/
http://www.america.htc.com/connect/8925/
You need 2 pieces (get one from each link above):
1. You need the Blackberry Connect software that installs on your Kaiser/Tilt. It's a .cab file. (first link above)
2. You need the Blackberry Connect for Windows Desktop software that installs on your PC. It's a .exe file. (second link above, halfway down the page)
There's also a help file at the bottom of the second link.
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Thanks a lot for these links !

Oz IM client: SMS or data?

well i talked to a few att reps about this and have gotten different answers from all 4 them. 2 say that in order to use the oz IM client you need a data plan because it connects to media.net to sign on. the other 2 say its billed as sms. this is also what is says on their website also https://www.wireless.att.com/support/knowledgeBase.do?content=KB84620.html . so thought you guys might know for sure whether using this client is billed as data, sms, or both. this would probably also answer my question for sending MMS if its just charged as data, a message, or both since it connects to media.net to send. thanks.
device is an att tilt with stock att rom

it connects to media net to signon, but when you are chatting and sending msgs back and forth that is SMS not data. on your bill it will show up as "ICQ IM" under TYPE, and your number under FROM.

NguyenHuu said:
it connects to media net to signon, but when you are chatting and sending msgs back and forth that is SMS not data. on your bill it will show up as "ICQ IM" under TYPE, and your number under FROM.
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so even while signed on and connected to media net i wont incur data charges? just sms charges for sending and receiving messages right? thanks for the help so far.

it counts as sms... not data

Another quick question - I am running one of Dutty's roms and I noticed whenever my phone is connected as a 3G I cannot sign on using the OZ IM client.
Anyone else have this problem? Is there a solution?

Mine uses the data to connect and get my buddy lists, but then each line I type is counted as one SMS, and each line I receive is counted as another SMS. It does not show up on my bill is ICQ though, but IMSMS or something along those lines. So I've seen on my bill the data connect AND the SMS for OZ IM. I am certainly looking for another IM client! I used to use Agile Messenger, but they charge an annual subscription. There HAS to be a better option! Anyone have any ideas for a decent, data only, IM client?

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So I've seen on my bill the data connect AND the SMS for OZ IM.
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thats exactly what i wanted to find out! thanks. so just to clarify you are billed data and sms correct?

Use MSN Live
You can install MSN live cab availible around. It will use MSN messanger and it go over internet connection, no per SMS charges. Additional benefit pushmail connection to people using hotail or msn hosted accounts. Just change in option sync type from manual to when item arrived.

teren said:
Mine uses the data to connect and get my buddy lists, but then each line I type is counted as one SMS, and each line I receive is counted as another SMS. It does not show up on my bill is ICQ though, but IMSMS or something along those lines. So I've seen on my bill the data connect AND the SMS for OZ IM. I am certainly looking for another IM client! I used to use Agile Messenger, but they charge an annual subscription. There HAS to be a better option! Anyone have any ideas for a decent, data only, IM client?
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I use Fring or Palringo, both are free and will work for MSN, Google Talk, Yahoo, etc. The main difference between the two IM programs is that Fring also does VOIP calling through Skype. They both work on data, not SMS.

OZ messenger

Sorry if I seem like such a noob but ive been searching and still cant get OZ messenger to work. I have a Fuze thats unlocked to T-mobile with Romeos rom. I have unlimited sms so I would like to try out OZ messenger which i got from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366157 I then moved the file to my phone via active sync. I went to the folder which contained some files but nothing that would launch an install. Any help would be much appreciated, thanks in advance.

You need to transfer the .cab file to your Windows mobile device and run it from the device, not the PC.

Here's the .CAB
The OZ Messenger CAB extracted from the T-Mobile ROM was a pain to find for me, so I'll post it here for you.
Just install this on your Raphel, and you're good to go. I use it with T-Mobile as well.
Just to verify, OZ messenger uses SMS to communicate with AIM,ICQ, and Yahoo so not data plan is required.
Enjoy! If you have any questions, let me know

yea but OZ messenger needs some data connection to establish a connection.
been down that road before...lol

All it requires is the standard data connection that is provided for every t-mobile customer. I'm pretty sure it requires a EDGE connection, but I don't have any data plan it runs perfectly fine.