I have the Tilt and I was wondering is their anyway I can have both Media Net and Balckberry running at the same time? Everytime i am messages or browser the web my bb disconnects. Any way around this?
No, the Tilt can only connect to one APN at a time. MediaNet or blackberry.net
eh? so if i were to use ONLY the bb connect service for email, i'll get disconnected from browsing etc every time an email gets pushed out to me?
another question. i'm currently pulling down 4 pop3 accounts into their individual email "folders" on my tilt via default pocket outlook polling setup. can blackberry connect do the same with regards to different "folders" / account?
eg: shove different account emails to their respective outlook folders vs all in one bucket?
i had a 7200 series blackberry *years* ago using bb internet service and regardless of how many accounts you pulled down it all got dumped into the same bucket so to speak. there was no easy way to differentiate between biz critical vs personal emails at a glance.
?? so far i havent been able to find any helpful info re bb connect online yet.
mujomojo said:
eh? so if i were to use ONLY the bb connect service for email, i'll get disconnected from browsing etc every time an email gets pushed out to me?
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No, it's the other way around. Whenever something else grabs the data link, BBConnect goes into suspend mode and will reconnect when it's released.
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another question. i'm currently pulling down 4 pop3 accounts into their individual email "folders" on my tilt via default pocket outlook polling setup. can blackberry connect do the same with regards to different "folders" / account?
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I creates a separate folder for each e-mail acount. As far as I know, that's the only way it will do it.
how does it work Blackberry connect on the Kaiser ?
Do we need to install the Blackberry software ? (Blackberry connect 4).
Can we then browser the internet if my company pay for it ? (I had Blackberry connect 2 installed on an HTC Universal, I could read my emails and sync Calendar/notes/tasks but I never could browser the internet ...I never could make Black Connect 4 working on my Universal, so I don't know if I would be able to browser the internet with it).
Thanks a lot
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No, it's the other way around. Whenever something else grabs the data link, BBConnect goes into suspend mode and will reconnect when it's released.
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hrm .. not the best scenario especially if using gps via google maps or web browsing.
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I creates a separate folder for each e-mail acount. As far as I know, that's the only way it will do it.
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speaking from personal experience using blackberry connect on your wm6 device?
thanks for the responses!
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how does it work Blackberry connect on the Kaiser ?
Do we need to install the Blackberry software ? (Blackberry connect 4).
Can we then browser the internet if my company pay for it ? (I had Blackberry connect 2 installed on an HTC Universal, I could read my emails and sync Calendar/notes/tasks but I never could browser the internet ...I never could make Black Connect 4 working on my Universal, so I don't know if I would be able to browser the internet with it).
Thanks a lot
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There are a number of threads of people posting their experience with BBC on the Kaiser. Browsing works, with some limitations. But also, its possible that your company's policies can restrict some BB functionality. It all depends on the config and the plans you have. But ultimately, you canbrowse the internet, you can get your email pushed to you. The biggest issue is the data connection issue described in the last couple posts. If you want more info. Search this forum for blackberry and you will find alot of testimonial expeirence in getting it set up and using it.
Personally, I found it to be too slow, too much of a memory and battery hog. I removed it within 2 days of installing it. And the difference in performance on the Kaiser and its battery is night and day IMO.
I use Seven's beta software now for my email pushing.
Thanks a lot for your infos !
I've been running it for a little more than a week.
Cons: I noticed that sometimes my appointments don't update on the Tilt when I move it on my desktop OL calender. You need to keep as few programs running as possible or it slows the device and the battery life isn't good. I like the BB keypad better. The Tilt wakes up with the screen dim and outside it is a real problem. I've had it lock up a few times and go so slow I needed to reset.
Pros: Best of WM and BB. The BB has a poor PIM so using PocketInformant again is very nice. 3G for browsing. The disconnect-reconnect is automatic so it isn't a problem for me.
I haven't made up my mind if I going to go back to my 8800. If I wasn't using BES (corporate email) I wouldn't use the BB but that isn't my choice.
Regards-Michael G.
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how does it work Blackberry connect on the Kaiser ?
Do we need to install the Blackberry software ? (Blackberry connect 4).
Can we then browser the internet if my company pay for it ? (I had Blackberry connect 2 installed on an HTC Universal, I could read my emails and sync Calendar/notes/tasks but I never could browser the internet ...I never could make Black Connect 4 working on my Universal, so I don't know if I would be able to browser the internet with it).
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Yes, you need to install BBConnect. You want BBConnect 4. I understand that HTC makes it available on their website for Kaiser. I got mine through AT&T on a Tilt, so it was a little different. One quirk, if you got your Kaiser in North America, you have to figure out if it came from Europe or Asia to register on the HTC site. One of the major improvements in BBConnect 4 is it will suspend the blackberry connection if you access the internet using a non-blackberry browser.
You can browse the internet one of two ways. When you install the blackberry software, it also installs the blackberry browser. It will be in the blackberry folder in the programs folder. This goes through your company's system to the internet. This won't interrupt your e-mail, but the blackberry browser is rather weak.
The other way is through any other browser. However, you have to have the APN for your provider programmed in. Your provider's web site will probably have that information. Unlimited data usually comes with a blackberry data plan. So, if you can get your company to pay for a plan, that should get you internet access, even if you don't go through your company's BES system.
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hrm .. not the best scenario especially if using gps via google maps or web browsing.
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That's true. You have to be careful to avoid programs that suspend bbconnect constantly.
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speaking from personal experience using blackberry connect on your wm6 device?
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Yes. It's running on my Tilt.
Regardless of where your Kaiser or Tilt came from, you can follow these links to the software needed to install it, if you want it.
http://www.america.htc.com/mobile/connect/8925/
http://www.america.htc.com/connect/8925/
You need 2 pieces (get one from each link above):
1. You need the Blackberry Connect software that installs on your Kaiser/Tilt. It's a .cab file. (first link above)
2. You need the Blackberry Connect for Windows Desktop software that installs on your PC. It's a .exe file. (second link above, halfway down the page)
There's also a help file at the bottom of the second link.
WonkotheSane said:
Yes, you need to install BBConnect. You want BBConnect 4. I understand that HTC makes it available on their website for Kaiser. I got mine through AT&T on a Tilt, so it was a little different. One quirk, if you got your Kaiser in North America, you have to figure out if it came from Europe or Asia to register on the HTC site. One of the major improvements in BBConnect 4 is it will suspend the blackberry connection if you access the internet using a non-blackberry browser.
You can browse the internet one of two ways. When you install the blackberry software, it also installs the blackberry browser. It will be in the blackberry folder in the programs folder. This goes through your company's system to the internet. This won't interrupt your e-mail, but the blackberry browser is rather weak.
The other way is through any other browser. However, you have to have the APN for your provider programmed in. Your provider's web site will probably have that information. Unlimited data usually comes with a blackberry data plan. So, if you can get your company to pay for a plan, that should get you internet access, even if you don't go through your company's BES system.
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Thanks a lot for these informations, that's everything I needed to know !
jomo25 said:
Regardless of where your Kaiser or Tilt came from, you can follow these links to the software needed to install it, if you want it.
http://www.america.htc.com/mobile/connect/8925/
http://www.america.htc.com/connect/8925/
You need 2 pieces (get one from each link above):
1. You need the Blackberry Connect software that installs on your Kaiser/Tilt. It's a .cab file. (first link above)
2. You need the Blackberry Connect for Windows Desktop software that installs on your PC. It's a .exe file. (second link above, halfway down the page)
There's also a help file at the bottom of the second link.
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Thanks a lot for these links !
Related
I can't seem to find the exact info I am after. I am intending to purchase one of these phones off someone as soon as possible.
However, I don't really want it for use as a phone. Merely a temp solution so that I don't need my PC on 24/7. I want to be able - via wi-fi - to browse some web pages and also keep in touch with some friends via windows live messenger and yahoo messenger.
I just don't seem to be able to find the relevant software I would need on both the windows live, and yahoo websites. Is what I want to do possible with one of these phones? Oh and could I have internet explorer open at the same time as having a messenger app open? thanks for any help
edit: sorry, I should specify it's the XDA Mini S I am looking at buying.
The best MSN and Yahoo comunicator is Agile Messenger.
MSN Messenger is installed in every XDA Mini S as a standard.
Normally, that means without any 3rd party software, it's impossible to have open two applications in the same window (if that's what you're after) but if you just want to browse the net using IE and be logged in in the background - yes, that's how it works.
Then whenever you get a message the pop-up window will appear even if you are using other applications.
Excellent, that's as good as I need to be honest. Thanks
edit: can anyone confirm that once unlocked I can use a pay as you go sim card from t-mobile? Also does the phone need a sim card in it in order to be used to access the net etc via wi-fi? Thank you.
hello all i got my new tytn 2 a few days ago i also have the tytn i cant get my gmail to download to the phone useing my 3 ireland internet but it woks fine on the wifi i think its a setting that i am missing also i put the tomtom on it and ireland in not in the list for the one free map whats the next best things i can use
Has anyone got the connection settings for the Kaiser on 3 Ireland?
have a look at www.filesaveas.com they should have the connection details there
3 ireland and gmail
I can't get it to work also.. however it's nothing to do with settings... Its something to do with 3's network blocking pocket outlook express.. there's two work arounds... download the gmail java program which isn't blocked or else look through the threads there is someone else with a problem with at&t... there is a workaround using active sync and a free service from some online place.. using microsofts direct push... I have lost the link to the thread....
Have you managed to get Windows Live working on three.. or only when on WiFi.. this i believe has the same problem..
apn settings for 3 ireland are.. 3ireland.ie that's all you need... there's no username and password... for the rest of the setup.. run auto config.. and choose 3 in the uk.. then go back in and change the apn to 3ireland.ie
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I can't get it to work also.. however it's nothing to do with settings... Its something to do with 3's network blocking pocket outlook express.. there's two work arounds... download the gmail java program which isn't blocked or else look through the threads there is someone else with a problem with at&t... there is a workaround using active sync and a free service from some online place.. using microsofts direct push... I have lost the link to the thread....
Have you managed to get Windows Live working on three.. or only when on WiFi.. this i believe has the same problem..
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http://live.mail2web.com/ (note, your reply address will be @mail2web.com)
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http://live.mail2web.com/ (note, your reply address will be @mail2web.com)
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another one... the one I meant.. found the link
mobipush.com
I don't know if this is a workaround, since I don't have a problem with pocket outlook, but I use Seven Beta to push my gmail account and my work email that uses google apps. It works flawlessly. Seven came out with a new beta version at the end of last year that is greatly improved, although their contact sync doesn't work properly yet. But this is a great way for me to get around using mail2web, or using pull for my email.
http://community.seven.com/forum/main.php
If you don't know about Seven, they develop email apps for phone companies. The native ATT Tilt software called Xpressmail is just the latest full Seven release.
I had BBC 4.0.0.67 working on my 8525, and a couple of days ago bought the HTC Tytn II (Kaiser). On initial startup, using the SIM from my 8525, the Tytn II set up my AT&T data connection. Phone calls and 3G internet surfing worked fine. The Tytn set my data connection to use isp.cingular and I added the wap.cingular connection. I use the wap.cingular connection.
I first tried Blackberry connect 4.0.0.90 which would not connect to the BB server even though I had a good 3G internet connection. I spent an hour on the phone with AT&T who finally said it was a Blackberry problem and they transferred me to Blackberry. I spent an hour on the phone with them, and they concluded it was AT&T. Blackberry support transferred me back to AT&T. The AT&T manager basically said: we don't support a non AT&T phone on Blackberry...and we don't support blackberry connect. I will point out everyone was very nice throughout this over 2 hour ordeal.
So I removed BBC .90, cleaned out all traces, and reloaded the 4(1).0.0.84 AT&T Tilt version from the HTC America site: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327695
and surprise, everything works perfectly on 3G and Edge. Blackberry BES for my work exchange email (synching email, calendar, contacts, and notes) and BIS for my personal email accounts. The Blackberry web browser also works fine.
At my firm I have the option to install BBC or Good. I have Good running but I'm wondering about BBC. Does it work like Good in that there is a separate application running that you need to open for mail/calendar/contacts, and it's not integrated into the native apps? Or is it like using a blackberry where everything is integrated. Thanks!
It's fully integrated into the native apps. BBC creates WM6 mail accounts for my exchange email and personal email accounts, the contacts are in the WM6 standard contacts database, and the appointments are in the standard calendar. All of these (except personal email) are bi-directionally syncronized with my exchange server.
do you have an AT&T blackberry data plan?
Yes. blackberry unlimited
Just one more question - for the corporate email, can you add an attachment to an email that is stored on the mobile unit?
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It's fully integrated into the native apps. BBC creates WM6 mail accounts for my exchange email and personal email accounts, the contacts are in the WM6 standard contacts database, and the appointments are in the standard calendar. All of these (except personal email) are bi-directionally syncronized with my exchange server.
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I read this in an article which is what prompted me to ask. What the article is describing sounds like Good, where it's a separate application.... "The new BlackBerry application suite will complement existing Windows Mobile 6 functionality and will appear as an icon on the screen, in the same manner as other third-party applications. Clicking the icon will prompt a suite of BlackBerry applications, including push e-mail functionality, calendar, address book and others, to load. "
Can one run both the Outlook and the Blackberry connect in the same device (Kaiser) at the same time?
Also, I attempted to install BB connect and I was prompted to first disable my password. I could not find a way to do that without first eliminating the Outlook connection to the Exchange server. Is there another way?
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I read this in an article which is what prompted me to ask. What the article is describing sounds like Good, where it's a separate application.... "The new BlackBerry application suite will complement existing Windows Mobile 6 functionality and will appear as an icon on the screen, in the same manner as other third-party applications. Clicking the icon will prompt a suite of BlackBerry applications, including push e-mail functionality, calendar, address book and others, to load. "
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My guess is the author was not familiar with the WM6 environment. There is a BB icon in settings and on the bottom of the today screen, but it brings up the bbc configuraton utility. The apps are fully integrated in the native wm6 apps.
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Can one run both the Outlook and the Blackberry connect in the same device (Kaiser) at the same time?
Also, I attempted to install BB connect and I was prompted to first disable my password. I could not find a way to do that without first eliminating the Outlook connection to the Exchange server. Is there another way?
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If you use BBC to synch contacts, appointments, notes, and tasks, you cannot also synch them via activesynch/WMDC or exchange sync. It's one method or the other. I have not set up a POP account on my Tytn because I have all my personal POP email go through the Blackberry Internet Service (BIS).
I'm not sure if you can exchange sync email and use BBC for email too.
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Just one more question - for the corporate email, can you add an attachment to an email that is stored on the mobile unit?
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Yes, but it seems like you are limited to 32K or smaller.
So, here's the deal. I also got this to work on my second day of having my TyTN II. I called AT&T and tricked them into thinking I had purchased an unlocked BB from a dealer and they switched me over to the BB Unlimited plan so I could use BES to connect to my corp email. I installed the PC software, and the handheld SW. And got everything working. It started downloading all my emails, inbox and sent. I chose not to sync my calendar until I confirmed it worked.
BUT...
Something very strange happened. Basically, it went thru my calendar, saw all my meetings that were on my calendar for the last week and in the future and started to RESEND ALL THE MEETING INVITES AS IF THEY WERE FROM ME.
So, if I had a meeting that I was invited to next week, along with 3 others. It sent out a meeting invitation through my email to the other 3 participants (excluding the original meeting organizer) and sent it as if I was the meeting organizer. So I ended up with duplicate meetings on my calendar, and it duplicated everyone else's calendar. So people had 2 meeting ivntes, one from me, and one from the original organizer.
Needless to say, this was a big problem. Fortunately, i cuaght it before it went thru my entire calendar, but ti still managed to send out about 40 meetings invites, some to large groups of people!
I immediately removed the BBC software and switched my plan back.
I don't know why it happened. I can't explain it. Has anyone else who gets the new Kaiser-compatible BBC installed had this issue? Or did it work as expected?
I would prefer to get BBC working, but I can't risk having that happen again!
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So, here's the deal. I also got this to work on my second day of having my TyTN II. I called AT&T and tricked them into thinking I had purchased an unlocked BB from a dealer and they switched me over to the BB Unlimited plan so I could use BES to connect to my corp email. I installed the PC software, and the handheld SW. And got everything working. It started downloading all my emails, inbox and sent. I chose not to sync my calendar until I confirmed it worked.
BUT...
Something very strange happened. Basically, it went thru my calendar, saw all my meetings that were on my calendar for the last week and in the future and started to RESEND ALL THE MEETING INVITES AS IF THEY WERE FROM ME.
So, if I had a meeting that I was invited to next week, along with 3 others. It sent out a meeting invitation through my email to the other 3 participants (excluding the original meeting organizer) and sent it as if I was the meeting organizer. So I ended up with duplicate meetings on my calendar, and it duplicated everyone else's calendar. So people had 2 meeting ivntes, one from me, and one from the original organizer.
Needless to say, this was a big problem. Fortunately, i cuaght it before it went thru my entire calendar, but ti still managed to send out about 40 meetings invites, some to large groups of people!
I immediately removed the BBC software and switched my plan back.
I don't know why it happened. I can't explain it. Has anyone else who gets the new Kaiser-compatible BBC installed had this issue? Or did it work as expected?
I would prefer to get BBC working, but I can't risk having that happen again!
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That is very strange. BBC works great on mine and setup without issue.
GREAT news!!! since AT&T has not oficially released the "tilt" I'm assuming that you're using and HTC branded Kaiser, are you using the original ROM or did you Flash witht he AT&T ROM?
I'm eagerly awaiting for the delivery of my Kaiser
Thanks
Vinny
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GREAT news!!! since AT&T has not oficially released the "tilt" I'm assuming that you're using and HTC branded Kaiser, are you using the original ROM or did you Flash witht he AT&T ROM?
I'm eagerly awaiting for the delivery of my Kaiser
Thanks
Vinny
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I am using the original rom that came on the device. It took less than 5 minutes to set up.
Ditto. OEM ROM.
Has anyone used this on Tmobile? I know BB connect works on the Dash, but not on the Wing and I would hate to drop that much money to find out that it doesn't work with Tmobile.
Thanks for responding, I hope this holds true with other carrier than AT&T, I expect to have my kaiser within the next week or so, I'm in Mexico and my carrier is Telcel, I will report back as soon as I try this.
Cheers
Vinny
That's great that it was so easy to set up and use.
One question though....I have been using BbConnect on my 8525 for a while now, and always have difficulty accessing things such as Cellular Video or XM Radio or MobiTV through the Bb unlimited data plan. Usually aI have to disconnect the BB Connect service to access those.
Do you know if these services/apps work with the unlocked Tytn II and Blackberry Connect?
Thanks!
I have gotten BBC to work and I am generally pleased with it except the 32k limit sucks.
I have a couple questions that I'm wondering if anyone else has figured out.
First, my work email shows up in a folder called "Desktop" which is different that the general "Outlook Email" folder. Why is there a difference?
Also, when sending meeting invitations, I don't have the option to use the work (i.e., "Desktop") account, only the Outlook Email account which is not connected. Any ideas how to remedy this?
Thanks!
Ok I have looked and looked and cant find anyone haveing this problem. In my comm manager that my tilt came loaded with it will not even let me select direct push. Its just grayed out. Also there is no option to turn off or on the GPS in this comm manager. Anyone know how I can fix the direct push and where I can get a comm manager that shows the GPS? Thanks
You've got to set up your email account first. As for the GPS, I use franson GPSGate which allows me to close the GPS & also share multiple apps with the gps reciever. Otherwise you can only use one gps app at a time. I don't know of any commanager that integrates gps.
The GPS turns on automatically when something *a GPS program) accesses it and turns off when access is discontinued.
I have several email account set up. I have hotmail gmail and aim accounts set up.
Oh and thank you for the answer about the GPS I just wasnt sure.
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I have several email account set up. I have hotmail gmail and aim accounts set up.
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sorry, but you can't get direct push on free web email. You need a properly configured Exchange server for you phone to connect to via ActiveSync for microdoft direct push to work.
There are hosted exchange solutions that will give you an account on an exchange box, but they cost
Thank you so much for all your replies!!! Lol Does anyone know how to do multiple IE windows on the tilt? Sorry for my ignorance.
NemesisX2047 said:
Thank you so much for all your replies!!! Lol Does anyone know how to do multiple IE windows on the tilt? Sorry for my ignorance.
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Spb Pocket Plus is great for that (and a bunch of other things). The most recent version even allows tabs.
You'll have to buy it, but you can do a full trial first. While you're there, check out the rest of their title too. Spb is the best pocket pc developer in my mind. I have 5 of their apps on my tilt.
If you do end up using SPB, PM me to discuss the full version if you like
I been reading other threads and i cannot find an answer. I even called att and they were no help.
I installed the windows live for windows mobile version 10.6.0034.0800 fixed.
When i'm using this messenger, how i'm being billed. Data? or Text message?
I have a unlimited data plan, so i'm hoping i'm not being charged per message. Can anyone help me with this question.
Thanks
The Tilt has Oz Messenger on it which has WLM, AOL, and Yahoo which connects via their phone network and it counts as SMS for every message you send/receive. With the Windows Live Messenger cab, it depends actually, if you are connecting through the ATT network then it's considered SMS but if you connect to the net Wi-Fi, no charges except whatever you pay for Wi-Fi (like pay hotspots)
Alemaker
I'm not using the oz messenger with the provided windows live. I'm using another version of the messenger that i found in another thread.
10.6.0034.0800 fixed. version
best way to go then. The Oz Messenger only connects through the ATT network whereas the Windows Live Messenger cab you installed can use either the ATT network or Wi-Fi.That's what I'm using also. Here's another little catch. If you connect using the ATT network(which is then an SMS for each message) if you start a conversation with someone internationally, you are charged international text rates.
Found that out the hard way when a friend in Germany started a convo with me!!
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With the Windows Live Messenger cab, it depends actually, if you are connecting through the ATT network then it's considered SMS but if you connect to the net Wi-Fi, no charges except whatever you pay for Wi-Fi (like pay hotspots)
Alemaker
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Seriously? I assumed the live messenger cab would use the data connection, not SMS. Does it really send via SMS when on network and wifi when off?
Alemaker said:
best way to go then. The Oz Messenger only connects through the ATT network whereas the Windows Live Messenger cab you installed can use either the ATT network or Wi-Fi.That's what I'm using also. Here's another little catch. If you connect using the ATT network(which is then an SMS for each message) if you start a conversation with someone internationally, you are charged international text rates.
Found that out the hard way when a friend in Germany started a convo with me!!
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Well....
I'm screwed, thanks for your help.
anyone else ?
Unless they changed it really recently, I tested it-on ATT=SMS, I barely text anyone and when my friend I.M.'ed me from Germany, all those showed on my bill as international SMS-on Wi-Fi=no charges
That's why I dumped Oz Messenger
are you still using the windows messenger cab?
Yup I'm using the exact one you listed. I just try not to use it while I'm on the ATT network cuz I only have the 200 message plan but it doesn't matter to me as alot of times I'm in a area with Wi-Fi so I just disconnect the ATT data connection and connect via Wi-Fi
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Seriously? I assumed the live messenger cab would use the data connection, not SMS. Does it really send via SMS when on network and wifi when off?
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It's easy to check,
Just start a conversation with someone using Windows Live Messenger on your phone and write down the exact time and date then check your next bill. All data and texts are time stamped on the bill.
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It's easy to check,
Just start a conversation with someone using Windows Live Messenger on your phone and write down the exact time and date then check your next bill. All data and texts are time stamped on the bill.
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So as long as i use wifi i dont have to pay right?
and how do u disconnect the att connection?
correct; and just click on the 3G or Edge icon and a small menu will show up with a disconnect option button, if you are using a cooked ROM, then open Comm Manager directly and disconnect the data connection.
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correct; and just click on the 3G or Edge icon and a small menu will show up with a disconnect option button, if you are using a cooked ROM, then open Comm Manager directly and disconnect the data connection.
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K....
Thanks
Windows Live using SMS?!? I don't use MSN messinger very often, but I don't remember it using SMS, it uses data.
the version of the messenger that i have i believe is the one the one that comes with the new windows mobile 6.1. I know that the messenger that came with my tilt uses sms messages instead of data. I guess i will be using OCTRO TALK.
Any other messenger suggestions?
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Windows Live using SMS?!? I don't use MSN messinger very often, but I don't remember it using SMS, it uses data.
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As this seems to need clarification, I spoke with ATT data tech support and per ATT, when you use an I.M. client directly ( not going to the net and using a web based I.M.) it is billed as I.M. which is text.
If you connect to the net with MediaNet and then go to WL Mobile website or Yahoo website etc. and use I.M. web-based, it is data, but directly connecting with the WLM cab or the proprietary Oz I.M., it is billed as text even though it uses the MediaNet connection.
ATT Tilt here and using the latest WL (10.6.0034.0800 fixed) and .0600 before it. On an unlimited data connection (PDA Personal Max I believe).
I use it regularly and never see any text message usage - I have read numerous postings that back that up? I'm not saying I don't believe what Alemaker is saying, I just find it hard to believe. I've just never had it use my text messages and neither have any of the other folks in my office (7 of us here with Tilt's and all using with IM).
NOTE - If you use the built in OZ IM, yes it will use sms text messages. This is not Windows Live though. It is an app that allows you to connect to the major IM networks. WL is designed to use an internet connection (IE Data, Wifi, etc.).
That's fine-I have seen billed as text them from international I.M.'s and to be honest, the CSR's at ATT gave me conflicting answers themselves, one said data, one said text and one even said billed same as e-mail(data). So that's why I contacted data tech support. And if it truly does turn out to use data-all the better. Just stating what I have seen. I don't I.M. mobile alot to begin with but just I.M.'ed someone using the WLM cab app and will look at my next bill
TCreed said:
I use it regularly and never see any text message usage - I have read numerous postings that back that up? I'm not saying I don't believe what Alemaker is saying, I just find it hard to believe. I've just never had it use my text messages and neither have any of the other folks in my office (7 of us here with Tilt's and all using with IM).
NOTE - If you use the built in OZ IM, yes it will use sms text messages. This is not Windows Live though. It is an app that allows you to connect to the major IM networks. WL is designed to use an internet connection (IE Data, Wifi, etc.).
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I agree... What the others are saying about Windows Live Mobile (replaced Mobile MSN) I can't agree with. Windows Live syncs my Hotmail and has a mobile MSN messinger client. And so far I haven't seen it use SMS for IMs.
knight2424 said:
I been reading other threads and i cannot find an answer. I even called att and they were no help.
I installed the windows live for windows mobile version 10.6.0034.0800 fixed.
When i'm using this messenger, how i'm being billed. Data? or Text message?
I have a unlimited data plan, so i'm hoping i'm not being charged per message. Can anyone help me with this question.
Thanks
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if you are using that version of WLM then i can garuntee you that you are using data and not text. There are several clients that support WLM including oz messenger that use texts, but the windows mobile version you described definitely uses data.